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What are the relations between Marines and civilians? Which chapter treats them the worst aside from Marines Malevolent? Which is the most bro tier and why?
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MM best chapter
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>>45086980
Salamanders are pretty nice guys, Ultramarines too
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>>45086980
Space Wolves are pretty cool towards them. Celestial Lions are too. Both going so far to trading blows with the Inquisition.
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>>45087304
40K Space Wolves are bretty good

30K? not as much

Also, Lamenters
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>>45086980
For those they cherish, they die in glory.
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>>45086980
>Which chapter treats them the worst aside from Marines Malevolent?
The Emperor's Children would be pretty bad to run into.
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>>45086980
I remember reading in one of the black libriay books how the civilians looked on both the Marines and Sisters as living legends, the marnes just sort of ignored the civilians.
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>>45086980
Crimson fists and black dragons are good to civilians
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>>45086980
>What are the relations between Marines and civilians?

Not good.

>Although held in awe as Mankind's saviours, Space Marines inspire more fear than wonderment. They have always stood apart from those they protect, and of all the Imperium's servants, they are the most fell-handed. They are death bringers, the deliverers of the Emperor's merciless judgement. Their sudden appearance speaks of calamity, and for Imperial citizens to catch a glimpse of a single Space Marine, even at a great distance, is a dire portent and most likely one of the last things they will ever see.

>Which chapter treats them the worst aside from Marines Malevolent?

MM don't even treat them that bad, they don't go out of their way to hurt them, they just recognise them as acceptable collateral damage. Worse would be the likes of the Space Sharks, the more far gone BA successors, the Unforgiven and the Grey Knights.

>Which is the most bro tier and why?

Ultramarines, they routinely interact with regular people, fight with honour and leave places nicer than than they were.
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>>45087337
When Russ tried to be an executioner for his father he was often an asshat. Russ after ditching the idea in Space saved a tonne of citizens from Chaos on the way to Terra. That was the start of the bro wolves
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>>45086980
>Which is the most bro tier
Dark Angels
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>>45088369
I don't get it

Are you feeling OK carlos
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>>45086980
The Ultramarines being the best as usual.
This story also featuring the Emperor using the Hive Mind to keep his pimp hand strong.
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>>45088295
Anyone got that comic where a feral world was underattack by Orkz, the the Black Templars came and razed the fucking place.

The civilians just went "dang Astartes, you scary!"
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>>45086980
>Which is the most bro tier and why?
Ultras, do you even have to ask?
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>>45088641
dick chapters confirmed codex noncompliant
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>>45088804
>inb4 dick chapters get declared Excommunicate Traitoris
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shitty quality, I fear
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>>45089044
so it would be better to get killed by the orks?
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>>45087363
>>45087337
>>45086980

Lamenters are truly the best chapter. They remember their duty as the vanguard and shield of humanity while remaining the wrathful hammer of the Emperor. Such loyalty, such sacrifice, such honour.

No other chapter can ever come close.
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>>45089114
Nah, he just rightfully recognises that Orks ain't shit compared to Space Marines.
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>>45089142
>No other chapter can ever come close.

Ultras do it better.
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>>45089148
Clearly those orks are shit tier. Cause a full pledge WAAGHH!!! Chews Space Marines like pop-corn.
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I think that probably the worst ones would be: The black templars, because when they can usually end under the hands of an inquisidor that wants superwarriors that don't ast many questions and black templars are pure zealots, when they stop fighting it doesn't matter if they were hunting heretics, traitors or xenos they will use the rest of their free time to continue their crusade over the rest of the population until they think they have killed enought.

And for bro tier, maybe the ravens, since we're in 40k a small chapter based on stealth is the best thing that can happen to your planet on space marines related things, for the simple fact that "eyes that don't see hearth that doesn't feel"
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>>45089193
>Cause a full pledge WAAGHH!!! Chews Space Marines like pop-corn.
OIDF please go
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>>45089163
This, ultras are bro-tier and win battles
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>>45088850
>Traitorus Secundus fags declaring others traitors
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>>45089044
That's fucking dumb.
>The aliens who were trying to violently kill me were preferable to the people who saved my life and that of my family
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>>45089359
>Black Library fags
>Ever taken serious
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Imminent derailment
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>>45086980
Salamanders or Ultramarines are the broest of the bros.
Some might say the yiffs but they're only bros to potential traitors; fitting for a chapter that just welcomed home an entire company of mutants from the warp
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>>45089389
It's not that he prefers the orks, just that the Templars inspire more horror. Think of it like this:
>Rioters are looting your neighborhood.
>Then SWAT shows up with flamethrowers and machine guns
>Rioters are killed to a man, then SWAT leaves without a word leaving charred and mutilated corpses in there wake
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>>45089677
I'd sue the police department
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> all this ultra-dick sucking
The fuck happened /tg/?
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>>45089747
Well first thing that happened was heat was taken off Ward when people started posting 2e fluff that showed that GW had always sucked Ultra dick.

Not sure what happened from there. Maybe /tg/ just came to peace with it?
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>>45086980
Would the Imperium even allow spacemarines plushies?
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>>45089747
The wardex was two editions ago.
That and all the hate has flipped things from smurfs being overrated to ultras being under appreciated.
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>>45086980
>Which chapter treats them the worst aside from Marines Malevolent?

Minotaurs, Iron Hands and some BA successors like the flesh tearers.
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>>45089694
That's fucking dumb.
>The looters who were trying to violently kill me were preferable to the people who saved my life and that of my family
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>>45089828
The inquisition rather
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>>45089828
Unless they're selling chaos, xeon or traitorous shit nobody gives a shit about the merchandise of street vendors.

If anything the authorities would approve. It's making people feel positive about the astartes.
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>>45089942
I think most spacemarines chapter wouldn't like it.
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>>45089805
I think the Spacemarine game also helped since it depicts ultra vets as level headed and codex wank as a blight on the chapter by the more fanatical 'youth'.
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>>45089955
I doubt the vast majority would notice.

Most don't talk to a human that isn't a serf for years at a time and even then it's going to be to military officers.

Such things are beneath their notice.
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wouldn't the space marines like to talk to their families?
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>>45086980
Random Civilian - Night Lord is probably one of the worst.

Serf - Night Lord is probably one of the best.
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>>45089955
Okay so maybe not plushies, how about rigid sculptures, made of metal or plastic
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>>45089864
>Iron Hands
Before almost getting Slaanesh'd? Yeah, sure.
After that, I dunno. They seem to have gotten their shit together.

>Flesh Tearers
They went out of their way to protect some civilians in Shield of Baal, if I recall.

>>45090072
I think their indoctrination makes them forget their families.
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>>45089747
New spaceyiff models taking the heat off the ultrasmurf
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>>45090117
don't their families venerate them if they are a SM
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>>45090117
>Be space mahren
>Trying to sit at a desk and trying to write a letter without breaking a quill
>Not training
Heresy
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>>45090100
Oh yeah, and you can paint them and replay the biggest battles of the Imperium on a tabletop.
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>>45090072
Salamanders stay in contact with them and even live with them between campaigns.
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>>45089747
I'll ultrasuck some ultradick any day anon, they're just based, and have the most patrician primarch.
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>>45090177
Go to bed Alpharius
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>>45089828
>>45089930
>>45089942
>>45089955
Relevant
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>>45090151
Ultramar families are mentioned to keep track of their Ultramarines and probably have ultrashrines.

>>45089972
>codex wank as a blight on the chapter by the more fanatical 'youth'.
In the Plagues of Orath trilogy, a bunch of Centurion use the grav-cannon in a non-orthodox way to arrest a fall and the Ultramarine who did goes up to the Chaplain with them (Centurion Chaplain when?) and was like "My brother is crying at me for breaking the codex. Do you disapprove."
And the Chaplain just goes "If you hadn't done it, we'd be dead. The Codex does not approve of that."

I'm still sure the priest in that final novella was a psychic manifestation of the Emperor.
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>>45089883
you're looking at it from the wrong perspective.
He views the god emporer as a holy being that is benevolent and kind, and the angels as the same. afterward, it's not the same view of emporer, it's changed, now he has a reason to fear upsetting his god.
going back:
>growing up police were nice and always helpful
>police officer even helped you get to your sons birth
>Rioters are looting your neighborhood.
>Then SWAT shows up with flamethrowers and machine guns
>Rioters are killed, then SWAT leaves without a word leaving charred and mutilated corpses in there wake
from then on be like oh shit nigga, dont get on their bad side
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>>45090351
She has grown up.
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>>45090514
no thank you
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>>45086980
Iron Hands were almost Marines Malevolent tier of asshole towards both civilians and their allies.

Now after the whole thing with that Daemon Prince of Slaanesh that was born from the death of Ferrus Manus and 10K years of repressed emotions of the Chapter, now they became less douchebag since they could now explode emotionally and channel said emotions into true determination.

Mind you, they still are douchebags, but they got better.
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>>45086980
It's hugely different from chapter to chapter.

A lot of chapter have their fortress-monasteries on feral worlds or terrible hive worlds where they recruit from the most hardy and exceptional specimens of the savage population that view the marines as goods or boogeymen and otherwise lead terrifying and harsh lives.

Other chapters, like the ultramarines, govern prosperous worlds where they recruit from the highly trained soldiers of the world, or the aspirants who go through lethal olympic style-games and where having a great, great uncle or something who got chosen is a huge honor.
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>>45090594
*as gods, not goods. Only GW view them as goods. (GW are heretics)
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>>45090590
>Ferrus Manus' death caused the birth of Slaanesh

Pretty sure that was the Space elves fault anon.
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>>45089828
They sell toy wind-up titans on worlds with titan legions.

I'm sure that every little boy on Ultramar has played spacemarines and Orks with his friends or little tin soldiers.
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>>45090117
>Flesh Tearers
>They went out of their way to protect some civilians in Shield of Baal, if I recall.

It's also thanks to Seth's treatment of trying to make the Chapter be remembered as heroes rather than monsters.

Glory to the Crotch Destroyer.

>>45090672
You dense heretic.

Daemon Prince of Slaanesh. Not Slaanesh. Read properly. Also the repressed emotions were partially added into its creation.
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>>45090318
I think that's Jain Zar you're replying to.
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>>45090711
Would the imperium allow xeno-like action figures if they are represented as the baddies?
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>>45090741
>implying
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>>45090738
Fug, speaking of which, does Fulgrim have bi-polar disorder, and do the Iron hands have a even nastier hatred for Emperor's Children after that whole thing?
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>>45090751
Well of course. Otherwise you're leaving the poor kids no choice but tho play Marines vs Marines, and THAT my friend, leads to heresy.
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>>45090766
>Implying.
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>>45090847
disgusting
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>>45089883
Why are you mocking a different anon with my words? I'd be thankful the police saved my life.
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>>45090825
>Bi-Polar Disorder

Fulgrim now has a shitton of disorders he gained during those 10K years.

Also now the IH are probably enjoying their new rage in a more controlled, yet unrepressed form.

>>45090847
I'm sure she is now a animated suit of armor these days. Just like every Phoenix Lord.
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>>45090835
true.
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>>45090884
She had flesh and blood in Void Stalker.
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>>45090738
Flesh Tearers also intentionally deploy away from allied Imperial units and civilians so they don't actually hurt them in their retard rage.
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>>45090864
Who hurt you anon?
Don't you want best primarch to be happy?
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>>45091016
>not wanting qt primarch on primarch
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>>45090983
For real? Seriously. Phoenix Lords. Once they are spirits in suits of armor, other times they are flesh and blood...

>>45091006
Yep. Also a thing that we can thank Seth. Guy really tries hard to make the Flesh Tearers look how they should be.
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>>45091025
>primarch slash
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>>45091025
You have Fulgrim x Ferrus and Kurze x everyone else already.
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>>45091066
boring
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>>45089747
Memes are really stupid, and Ultra-hate in particular is so overdone.
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>>45090072
I think not. Most of them see becoming SM has some sort of ascension or being more then human anymore. I know Spaceyiff have to show courage in battle to become a sky warrior and that often mean dying in battle before the yiffpriest revive them.

I read in tje codex one of them yifflord goes back to protect his tribe with out the yiffking consent and was reprimanded for it although he gained a cloak of fire immunity so it's still a win for him
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>>45089838
Also, the new hot chapter to meme hate is the Space Wolves.
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>>45091580
Is it?

I thought we just made fun of them by saying they are furries.
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>>45091066
I've heard tell of some combinations of Fulgrim x Sanguinius x Lion. After their meeting in Unremebered Empire, I'd be pretty unsurprised by Lion x Guilliman too.
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>>45091606
That sounds like a bunch of autist having a threesome.
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>>45091624
Well, yes. What do you expect from Primarch slash?
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>>45091668
Fulgrim tenderly loving Ferrus then eating his head like a praying mantis
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>>45091597
Nah, there are anons that seem genuinely hateful of them for not being grimdark enough. And being dicks during the Heresy, ironically.
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>>45091771
>2016
>not hating wolf fuckers
Get with the memes anon
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isnt it universally agreed upon that the wolves, salamanders and lamenters are the most bro tier?
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>>45089163

Fucking Ultramarines are shit. It's easy to appear righteous and compassionate when you're rich as fuck and swimming in wargear and equipment with one of the most fortified fortress-monasteries anywhere. They're basically rich faggots just buying favours and loyalty.

Lamenters stay righteous despite everyone shitting on them and being constantly on the verge of annihilation. That takes guts and devotion.
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>>45091580
I've always hated space yiffs and so has a large portion of /tg/. The new Wulfen will just create more hate.
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>>45091887
And Crimson Fists.
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>>45091025
>>45091038
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>>45089694
You try to sue space marines, see how that works out
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>>45091943
>Ultramarines are shit because there successful

Not that the Lamenters are bad but c'mon bruh
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>>45092176
>there

they're
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>>45091943
So, it's a bad thing to help people and be genuinely nice to others, because you're better equipped than some other chapter? Tell me more.
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>>45092219
whatever

point still stands
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>>45092029
Personally i hate them because i've yet to meet a SW player that is not a faggoty metal head virgin.
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>>45090751
I think they'd probably have a range of "heretics", who would universally be depicted as weak, dim-witted and ugly, while the good Imperial Guard all have heroic proportions.
Space Marines and Battle Sisters would probably he depicted more as religious icons that children might carry around for good luck or as security blankets, but probably aren't intended for use in make believe.
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>>45092251
>whatever

>point still stands

Whatever.

Point still stands.
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>>45090847
source
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What would happen if a chapter like the Ultramarines ever encountered a besieged world that wasn't affiliated with the Imperium? like some lost backwater world that was totally unfamiliar with the Emperor/Imperium, would they even help? Has something like this ever happened before?
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>>45092505
>Greetings unknown planet, you look like you could use some help.
>We'd be happy to provide it of course, but first...
>Have you heard the good news about the Emperor, humanity's Lord and Savior?
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>>45092176
>>45092232

It's easy to be brave when you have nothing to lose.
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>>45092505
I don't remember anything like that ever happening.

I imagine not.

If no other demands are made of their time then they would. But there is always a problem in the Imperium somewhere.

Missionarry work is the job of the Ecclesiarchy. Tithe enforcement is the job of the Arbiters and the Administratum. They aren't the bailiffs.
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>>45092558
It's 40k.

You always have something to loose. There is always something worse.
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The Astral knights took one for the team so I'd say they'r- Were pretty bro tier.
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>>45090514
I feel like this is in poor taste.
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>>45090514
What happened to her pants?
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>>45090983
>>45091030
All Phoenix Lords have flesh and blood. Without a "living" user, the suit of armor is exactly that, no more, no less.
Once you wear it, though, your soul dissolves into the whirlwind of souls that collectively are the Phoenix Lord in question.

There's nothing saying Jain Zar's current user isn't/wasn't male.
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>>45092545
>confusing Ultramarines with pre-heresy Word Bearers
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>>45092505
I think they would intervene to help (cause the Ultramarines are the quintessential good guys of 40k) but then after everything is said and done and the populace are praising there new found saviors they would be like

>"Oh btw, should have mentioned this earlier, but your part of the Imperium now whether you like it or not, praise the Emperor bitch"
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>>45088295
what Space Sharks even do?
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>>45088782
fuck off Alpharius it's well known you're a closet loyalist there is no need to suck Roboute's cock
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>>45092637

Please, Ultrafag. Stop comparing one of the most privileged chapters in the Imperium to Lamenters. Ultras don't have nothing to them.
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>>45093281
except, you know......

being still alive and all
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>>45093295
>c-c-check your ultra privledge
>We're not as well off
>s-s-so what if other chapters aren't as well off either and are still competent!
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>>45093267
>Alpharius
Who are you talking about, there is no such man, there is only the Ultramarines
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>>45090176
that's just fucking adorable imagine a giant superhuman helping his mom with the dishes
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>>45093244
They train there scouts by making them walk along the seabed surviving unarmed feeding only on the brains of sharks to better understand the instincts of a predator, thanks multilung!

That's my head cannon anyway.
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>>45093346
>2016
>still getting buttblasted about best chapter
The sooner you accept your spiritual liege, the better.
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>>45093397
I liked the ultramarines before it was cool
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>>45093397
I was sarcastically posting in your favor...
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>>45093444
aren't we all sarcastic?
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>>45092064
it's called calling the Minotaurs or Vindicare assasin.
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>>45093487
don't you mean ork snipers?
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>>45093033
Implying the difference is null now and pre heresy word bearers would be considered the radiant exemplars of virtues, beloved by the peoples and the ecclesiarchy
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>>45093637
This. The Lectitio Divinitatus wassn't written by Lorgar for nothing
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>>45089389
It's sort of like if Jesus came down and we found out he was a kill crazy bastard who then blew up half the planet
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>>45091066
I need proof of that, for science.
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>>45089142
>No other chapter can ever come close.
except the ones that do the same without getting killed and failing
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>>45089747
great colour scheme
some good fluff
some bad fluff
wanting to distance itself from the 1d4chan spergs who mention mat ward in every other sentence
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>>45091066
Magnus X Leman anyone?
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>>45094809
such as...?
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>>45093637
.......Son of a bitch.
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Salamanders are pretty cool.
Lamenters are bro tier. 10/10 would die at their side
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>>45088369
Oy lad we saved guardsmen from Grey Knights (wherever it was that Azrael fought Kharn).
You just don't hear about it as often because unlike some chapters we realize that loyalty is its own reward.
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>>45095794
You didn't save them at Pandorax, an Inquisitor apprentice did She convinced Draigo to spend time to mind wipe the battle instead.
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>>45088710
It was a feudal world.
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>>45091577
Is it bad that I see so much SW hate that I don't even notice people replacing "wolf" with "yiff" anymore?
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