My friend sent me a series of green text story images. As I pondered on what these kind of people would call themselves it struck me. These people are modern day shadowrunners.
Pretty much what I thought. /tg/ story time always gives me fun ideas to play with, just thought I'd share.
It's not. It's over-exaggerated. The people who work in MPR and STBD have a lot more clout, and as such, they wouldn't need shenanigans. This guy sounds like a standard PI who works in a group and had some dumbass clients who didn't know about the legit agencies.
>Naive enough to not know this kind of shit is going on in the world
You'd be surprised what money can buy and do. I saw a website in the deep-web once for a guy who kidnaps little girls and makes them into armless and legless dolls for buyers.
I have no doubt that and these kind of things exist, what I doubt is that 1. People so wealthy would outsource any such goonery and 2. One of said goons would shitposting about it on a Chinese cartoon website.
>I saw a screen cap on 4chan for a website in the deep-web once for a guy who kidnaps little girls and makes them into armless and legless dolls for buyers.
ftfy. Don't try and pass off screen caps everyone and their mothers have seen for shit that you've personally seen.
>I just had a mid level adventure where I traveled to africa and with my enourage of mercenary bodyguards, no biggie
Adventures sure are something else
>getting butthurt over screen caps and who did what
Welcome to the Internet, where no one owns anything and no one has done shit.
Wealthy people would outsource it so that in case something goes wrong they can't be held accountable. And it's not just the wealthy either. There are "troubled teen camps" that also do snatch and grabs for the families that hire them, and those families are usually middle class or lower.
I'd assume working as PI and eventually going not-so-private and joining a company.
Pretty sure that even today something akin to Pinkerton's exists.
Or maybe the connections of ex-military and contractor work.
>Implying that's me
Of course I know it's a screen cap. It's already been posted in this thread. Is it too hard to believe others are laughing at how mad you get over something so trivial?
I really don't like having that screen cap but even if this is not real I would not be surprised if it was real the world is big enough for anything to happen same for people to do anything for money like
says now that doesn't mean I have to think about it all the time not like I can do anything in the first place to stop it
Less trying and more watching your tantrum unfold followed by poor damage control.
Kind of jarring when you think about it, isn't it? The realization that if it's within the realm of possibility then someone's paid to make it happen, regardless of how terrible it may be.
Whatever helps you sleep at night friendo.
That's what PI's are. They usually tend to be ex cops or ex military types with some newbie guys for research. Yeah usually they just take pictures of cheating spouses or bring back stupid teenagers who eloped, kicking and screaming in most cases. But they do also get some of the more shady jobs that can't be turned over to police. In fact the overlap between mercenaries and PI's is pretty large.
All I'm gonna say is that Stockholm syndrome is some serious shit, and that humans in general, when acting to preserve their life, will do some dramatic shit.
Everything after the first 3 paragraphs is PROBABLY bullshit, but considering some of the real life shit that's been uncovered, I'm inclined to believe its possible.
And don't forget the people who stuff kittens into jars and make bonsai out of them. Stop believing everything you read on the internet.
To quote an expert on the matter: The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood. Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.
I don't doubt that events like these have happened. But the accounts are clearly exaggerated, with the details highly suspect.
>how the fuck does one get a job like that?
Work as a detective in a police force for five years, preferably in a major city area, be a PI with a good working record and minimal run-ins with the law and good understanding of the boundaries of what a PI can and can't do compared to a police investigator, or be a federal investigator of some variety. Bonus points for military background before entering that career.
After cultivating an understanding of best practices on the job and a network of contacts, you can seek private employment in 'intelligence' for certain companies. PMC's that provide security often have their own intelligence gathering departments though there are still a handful of straight up PI companies but most have diversified business. You get paid better than the industry average on contract, with additional bonuses for certain high-risk or confidential jobs.
Working for a security-oriented firm in intelligence is a lot of port reports, VIP surveillance and clearing an area before they arrive, etc. Lot of walking unless you're on the IT side of things but that's not really the shadowrunner experience.
If you want to shoot bang things on the regular however, check with one of greek, uk-based (not usually actually operated out of the UK but are founded or registered there for various reasons), or South African companies. Those who were in the navy will find regular employment with a maritime security company - pretty simple, you're by and large an additional sailor with a bigger paycheck and a gun. Its your job to shoot pirates. Contract times vary depending on the trip but hope you're ok with isolation because six month contracts are pretty normal. You get a new gun every port, usually just dump your current one over the side before pulling into port so you don't have to deal with gun importing laws. Just about every country has laws to sell a crate of whatever guns they've got laying around to ship security though so no big.
Shit like is real... ish. One thing I find odd is how literally every story ends with sexual debauchery on a biblical scale. I mean, it happens, and yes, but it's not the only place you'll find rich girls running to when they skip out on their spouses.
But I wouldn't look into it to much honestly. Small circles and that last story reads like straight illuminati shit.
>One thing I find odd is how literally every story ends with sexual debauchery on a biblical scale.
I can't find an archived version of the thread, but it could be that those stories were posted because the thread was about debauchery?
>One thing I find odd is how literally every story ends with sexual debauchery on a biblical scale.
You have point there. However, we have a number of stories posted here, after being send to the poster by a second person, who read them posted some other time by a third guy.
Every person might have omitted some, for thinking them boring or something.
Furthermore, given the amount of debauchery and kinks in the story might well have been posted in a thread about such topics or on a not worksafe board, where other stories might not have been wished.
Keep in mind these are a handful of storys from a guy who was in the business for 4-5 years or so.
For every crazy bullshit job, there were probably ten or more where it was a routine, even mundane job, where they drive over to where the target is, ask them to get in the car, get them in the car, drive them back, and pick up a reward.
It only seems so outrageous and unbelievable because he's only told the most outrageous and unbelievable stories.
That last one is true, sometimes anyway.
Zulu down in Orlando used to do it. Flash headlights at them and the driver has to hunt you down and bring your hand back to prove he killed you.
Troubled teen camps generally get shut down the first time the law glances at them for ten seconds. They are shady as fuck and do way worse shit then they show Oprah's camera crew.
>Troubled teen camps
Jesus Christ those things are actually real? I really hoped they were just horror stories from the internet.
What could an average person do to help fight the "troubled teens industry"?
MPR is Missings Persons Retrieval, and are British. STBD stands for something German, and they're based out of Frankfurt. They don't advertise, but get referrals by word-of-mouth by PIs, police departments, and so on.
They're basically kind of like PMCs, but due to their clientele, they generally have the kind of clout where the shenanigans mentioned in the OP post are unnecessary. They just stroll in, act as rude and in-control as possible, and rely on the fact that their employer usually has enough power to make any issues go away.
The sexual escapades in OP do happen, but not frequently. Usually it's the wife/daughter/son of a rich dude who shacks up with the pool boy, or janitor, or what have you.
I can't speak for MPR, but STBD has absolutely killed at least 2 people (I interacted with them, because my cousin who was staying with me in Germany (we're Russians) was a friend of one of these missing people.
I'll save some time and effort.
Starts as a thread about a guy getting cucked, turns into degeneracy.
>perfectly brainwashed in a single week
Brainwashing is a thing, but doesn't even the CIA take like months doing it? I highly doubt some Russian couple could do it in a week, even if they were ex-KGB or the such.
Correction: They take the children from their houses WITH THE CONSENT of their parents. A high number of people who have gone to those camps have told similar stories of being woken up in the middle of the night by unknown intruders, who then EXPLAIN that the child's parents have paid them to take the kid.
So, from the kid's point of view, they're not snatched off the street, they're snatched out of their bed.
Big difference between "betray past loyalties and give up people that are important to you" and "behave your-fucking-self and act normal until the pre-nup is signed and wedding over."
Just psychologically bullying people until they do what you want really isn't that hard.
It's just when you want long term character changes or to make people betray something they hold dear that it becomes difficult.
Something relatively trivial that they only need to keep up for a few weeks is easy.
You really can't. That's not how this shy works. For me that was the thing that threw the story from "exceedingly impossible" to "completely impossible" because the behavioral changes as described are just not possible in that sort of time frame.
It's a /pol/ meme/obsession with the downfall of society via liberal degeneracy (backed by bullshit accounts of the fall of the Roman Empire). Everything in these screen caps is catering straight to /pol/'s fetishes. It's propaganda cum fanfiction written by an individual raised on a steady diet of cliches and /pol/'s bullshit.
I think this may be the most blatantly false "true story" I've seen in a decade on this website. I'm usually in favor of the "it doesn't matter if it's a good story" approach but there's little here is regard as a good story. Whatever entertainment value it has resides in the constant parade of shock value.
Wilderness therapy is literally one of the only things that's been proven to work for those kinds of kids. Intercept' actually works. It's a three week camping trip designed to teach both independence and relying on your peers. Followed by three days of group therapy with the parents.
We were talking about the kind of super-strict military style or highly religious camps.
As an Eagle Scout, let me tell you that throwing a kid into an unplanned three-week camping trip is potentially the stupidest fucking thing I've ever heard, and their own descriptions on their websites make me think they have no idea what the fuck they're doing.
They use a bunch of weasel words and things that are meant to sound great, but really don't have any backing. For instance, the statement "Meet all Outward Bound, local, State, and federal requirements" doesn't necessarily MEAN anything, if there aren't specific laws about such things, and the fact that they don't at least link their own and the federal requirements is worrying.
Their supervisors must be Wilderness Advanced First Aid trained, which sounds nice, until you learn that's a four-day training course. Wilderness First Responder is 80 hours, also known as "two work-weeks."
Their own site contradicts itself when describing the program, which it ALSO describes as "possibly the hardest thing you have ever done" That sounds like a great fucking thing to throw a kid with no training, or time to prep into! (Oh, and no, it fucking isn't "the hardest thing you have ever done", it'll be "the hardest thing you ever made YOUR CHILD do", since it's not like the teens themselves are on the website.
"It may take every waking moment to get from point A to point B." gets followed up with a LOT MORE SHIT you're supposed to take care of before leaving point A and after getting to point B. They openly state your kids will be starving ("Hunger is the best spice" they note, while claiming your kid will be laughing over a meal they had to make after hiking 'all day'. ) They show no fucking understanding of nutrition. ("Our diet is mostly vegetarian and consists of grains, pasta, nuts, beans, cereals...It may contain more fats and protein than you're used to." Not with that fucking ingredient list it doesn't. )
They may work, but their own website makes me think they're a scam.
possibly the greatest 4 word intro to any post ever.
Things I forget I can do: upload time-stamped pics.
Though I shamed myself by not writing sup'
And I don't know where specifically my Eagle stuff is.
Look at this guy, not carrying his Eagle Scout Card in his wallet.
Step it up, son.
The wallet with my card in it got stolen, and never got it replaced. But Props, man!
Quick pic editing question: How do you blur things like that? I was trying to do it on Photoshop this last weekend, and could not get it to work. Is it the blur tool, or are you overlaying a layer with some weird settings?
I don't think I'd like to play a Shadowrun game like this. The guys in question only really do information gathering and really quick busts with little shooting, in horrifying places to grab horrifying people. And they get nervous around some PMCs - imagine if a group of shdowrunners got spooked by some private security.
Half of those places sound like stuff that should be sealed with meter thick lead walls. How are they not declared critical health hazards by the govt?
Note that I assume those stories are the most fucked up, and that for each there are a hundred stories of rich bitches going on more "regular" sexcapades.
Well, sure, but shadowrunners are supposed to be professionals, right? Many of them are ex-gangsters or military, and people who've lived rough lives.
Part of it is the difference in mindset for the jobs. An investigator in these stories uses their guns to force opportunity, to maim, to complete an objective. Rarely is the intent to kill, a possibility for sure but a murder investigation rather than attempted murder is a bit harder to shake with friends upstairs and quick moving in a setting where getting any reliable forensic evidence is nigh impossible.
A private security guy, or PMC. Their first go to is shoot to kill. There is no maim, no opportunities to open, when they decide to start firing they don't stop until something is dead or has fled beyond their ability to engage/off their jurisdiction to engage. And they're usually carrying a bigger gun than the investigators and more familiar with them.
The investigators would more likely be open to a firefight with civilian police in an escape attempt than private security, the former are by and large not accustomed to being shot at and are terribly trained with the further benefit of taught to expose themselves to as little risk as possible and wait for backup/specialists to arrive. The later are selected based on their capability with weapons and tend to come from a qualified pool of people who made a living getting shot at in shitholes and surviving.
I think that's an element that really doesn't show up enough in games, that the cops are really bad at firefights. That's not really their job. But when megacorps sic their private security on you its time to shit your pants because now you're effectively fighting veterans who were hired for being good at their job and their job is killing you.
>the new guy not understanding why there's jam but no toast
I have no idea why but this slayed my sides. It's always the little things like this that get me.
Brainwashing usually requires breaking down the original personality of someone, usually extreme torture combined with a punishment/lesser punishment system can do the trick. Mix that in with mind altering drugs, and you can do some very effective things.
The unibomber is an example of a dramatic change within a short time period, he was part of the MKultra program.
Not that guy, but it's just a cultural confusion. Some Russians take jam in their tea instead of straight sugar/honey.
Tea's never been seen as a stand-alone drink in Russia, so it always gets something added to it.
It's funny in that you can totally see someone who's new to international work getting confused by this sort of thing. "Oh, is that strawberry jam? Delightful. And where's the toast?" *Russians stare at him in confusion*
I choose to believe that these stories are fake, because I wouldn't want to live in such a world.
One of my favorite cultural confusions is how the English and Americans use "quite" to mean essentially opposite things. English speakers use it as the minimum compliment one can politely give, so it comes across as mildly insulting. "That tea was...quite good." means it was just good enough that they didn't throw it out. While Americans use it as a standard mild intensifier, like "pretty" or "fairly". "That tea was quite good." means "Hey, that tea was better than most."
The discovery of this lead to a mildly funny
tumblrpost alleging that this confusion has been the core problem in US/UK relations in the last 30 years: both sides are mis-rating the other's enthusiasm because of their word choice.