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Treemonic Tutor edition.
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My meta has gotten really weird and I'm not sure how to feel
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>>45034288
Explain.
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>>45034342
>giving the whore attention
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>>45034288
Nearly everyone from my modern meta switched formats, and over half of the people left are playing Tron.
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>>45034288
My meta went from

>1 Twin
>2 Infect
>1 Burn
>1 RDW
>1 Kikichord
>1 Goblins
>1 Bogles
>2 Tron

To

>3 Infect
>2 Burn
>1 Kikichord
>1 Soul Sisters
>1 Goblins
>1 Grixis Control
>1 Bogles

I think we're still adjusting.
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>>45034342
Basically it went from tron burn and cheaper decks to a lot of weird decks. At our last big tournament, there were like four people on fish, one dude was playing Taking Turns, we had storm, Jeskai Delver, two Junk decks (one of them was mine), Ooze combo, Dredge, and some other bizzare lists. Oh, and one Tron.

>>45034363
That sounds awful
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>>45034420
But see, that meta sounds decently diverse. At least it wasn't 90% Twin or something. If anything good came out of this ban and not much did, at the very least we get to try out some tier 2 decks and memedecks.
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>>45034288
Haven't gone to a local store yet but they used to have 5 Twin players.

Yes, 5 Twin players.

I could imagine the salt running a few weeks back.
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>>45034578
Yeah not complaining it's just not something I expected. I wonder how long it will last.

>>45034591
We had like four including me. One dude even had the entire thing foiled out.
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>>45034669
By any chance are you in NYC?
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>replying to tripshits
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>>45034759
>shilling this hard against tripshits
Yeah, how about you fuck off.

>inb4 took the bait
Yeah, fuck off.
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>>45034688
Nop, far from it
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>tfw no local modern scene
>only standard
>fucking standard
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>>45034688
What other stores are there besides 20S.
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>>45034912
It's funny, my shop actually straight-up dropped standard because no one came to the events. They run Modern and EDH now, and the occasional draft if some people are interested.

Don't know what that says about standard, but god damn I hope Shadows doesn't bomb like BFZ did.
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from the last thread

>>45032761
>>45033402

4x Mutavault
3x Cavern of Souls
1x Oboro
1x Minamo
11x Plains

4x Aether Vial
4x Spreading Seas

4x CurseCatcher
4x Master of the Pearl Trident
4x Lord of Atlantis
4x Silvergill Adept

SB
4x Hurkyl's Recall
2x Remand
2x Relic of Progenitus
2x Unified Will
2x Spellskite
1x Vapor Snag
1x Dismember
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>>45034968
where in NYC are you? Bulletproof by Brooklyn College ain't bad
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>>45034999
>11x Plains
What the fuck? Might want to make sure you sleeve up Islands, anon, or you'll be leaning pretty hard on those Caverns.
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>>45034968
Strategist
Montasy
Wasteland
Champ
Geekery
Kings
Uncommons
Universe
bulletproof
nebulous

Thats all I know

tbhfam 20S sucks balls now
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>>45035031
SI, I used to go to a shop here until it closed down.
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>>45035047
>all those stores
>tfw only 3 stores in my town
>one filled with the worst of the community
>one with overpriced product
>one promising upstart
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>>45035047
Meh I dislike Kings, kinda skeevy the few times I went to play and I've been to 20S once and it was very cramped. All the other stores I never heard of.
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>>45034774
>turning off your trip to make it seem like another person is defending you
Shiggy diggy doo
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>>45035096
damn what's the trip to 20S like, 90min? like I said, bulletproof is pretty okay but i imagine it's no closer unless you're driving
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>>45035136
Yea, Kings is complete shit but its the largest store in the city.

20S raised their prices so a lot of people that used to go there left for other stores.

Champ has fnm Modern if you don't mind traveling to Staten Island.

Going to Strategist tomorrow for Modern at 6:30 if you want to try it out.
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>>45035167
>>45035047
Could you give me the addresses to these places maybe I'll take the trip out and jam some modern/legacy
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>>45034999
thanks. have you played around w/ chalice or 8 seas at all?
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>>45035196
Oh TCG Gamechamps? Scumbag store.
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>>45035204
2178 Nostrand Ave, Brooklyn, NY 11210 is bulletproof, also a solid comic inventory, but i can't vouch for legacy
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>>45035045
Oops, meant to type in Island.
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>>45035159
(You)

>>45035108
So many stores have failed in my area. I hope to God this newish one doesn't.
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>>45035206
Don't want to get chalices right now, and I think that there just arn't enough targets on 1 to be worth playing in the format.

Tried 8 sea, and I think that the loss in bodies isn't worth the added disruption.
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>>45035297
I've been with this new store since it started 2 years ago and I was probably the first CCG customer. The other stores have been around since early 2000s, and the smelly old one is like from the 90s. I just hope it doesn't crash and burn because it's seriously the only shop in town that doesn't shill you out of your money.
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>>45035279
Haha, not a worry, anon. Just wanted to make sure you weren't trying to be some insane "Vials are all I need" madman.
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>>45034999
>six playsets MD for 24 cards
>20 lands for 44 cards total
>14 card sideboard
Go home anon you're drunk. Either that or I'm drunk, I dunno anymore.
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>>45035354
There is only one real store in my area, they are the kind of shills who had their BFZ and OGW fat packs at $70 from day one, pricks.
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>>45035108
Lucky you. Only one store in my half of the state, so I'm basically forced to take it or leave it
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>>45035892
Same issue here brother. I stopped buying much there because their prices are at or above MSRP on everything fucking thing.
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im like 13-0 today in b03s on mtgo right now with stupid monogreen devotion

what the fuck is this deck
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>>45035472
What am I missing? Goddammit, lets try again
4x Mutavault
3x Cavern of Souls
1x Oboro
1x Minamo
11x Plains

4x Aether Vial
4x Spreading Seas
2x Vapor Snag
4x CurseCatcher
4x Master of the Pearl Trident
4x Lord of Atlantis
4x Silvergill Adept
4x Harbinger of the Tides
2x Phantasmal Image
4x Merrow Reejery
1x Kira, Great Glass Spinner
3x Master of Waves
SB
4x Hurkyl's Recall
2x Remand
2x Relic of Progenitus
2x Unified Will
2x Spellskite
1x Vapor Snag
2x Dismember

This should be right. I guess I am drunk
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>>45035878
My store had BFZ selling at $4.00 a pop but then they dropped it to $3.50 for a while. I don't buy many packs so I can't remember what they're selling at now.
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>>45035204
I dunno man thats quite a bit of work. Google perhaps?

>>45035224
Haven't had any problems on my trips there, what didn't you like about it?

>>45035230
Used to work close to the store, but the neighborhood is a shithole imo.
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>tfw city has only 1 game store
at least we have a store, whelp

>>45035384
>run 4 vials at 1, 2, 3 and 4 charges
who needs islands when you can run motherfucking PLAINS

I have a tendency to say "plains" when I mean island, and vica versa. It ticks off my buddy when I play a plains and say: "I play an island," so I do it on purpose to him. The twitches in his lower eyelid makes me tingle in a good way.
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>>45035967
Let me google some one word things into google and see what pops up!
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>>45036010
Gave you the name of the stores, and they're all in NYC, shouldn't be too hard to find Anon.
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Reposting this for all our friends who play burn and all our friends who like to talk out of their ass about knowing how to playing burn.

Probably needs some fixing desu but who cares
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>>45035967
The store owner scums little kids out of money/cards
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>>45036070
I feel like you need to add another flowchart just for having atarka's command in hand.
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>>45035930
list?
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>>45036108
Hmm, never heard of this, but I know that kids play Yugioh there.
Then again you probably deserve to be scammed for playing a shitty game.
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Is this a good thread to asking for help? Really want to make working pauper BU deck with zombie tokens but something went wrong. It's my first time with bigger amount of black mana so don't really know how to combine this. The idea was to mill part of opponent deck as soon as possible, use vile rebirth and then just reanimate own deck and make few more tokens

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/26-01-16-zombie-mill/

Mainboard (60)
Creature (21)
* 4 Ghoulraiser
* 4 Gray Merchant of Asphodel
* 3 Shambling Goblin
* 4 Shepherd of Rot
* 4 Undead Servant
* 2 Vedalken Ghoul

Instant (9)
* 3 Disfigure
* 2 Doom Blade
* 4 Vile Rebirth

Sorcery (6)
* 3 Ghoulcaller's Chant
* 3 Mind Sculpt

Land (22)
* 4 Dismal Backwater
* 12 Swamp

Enchantment (2)
* 2 Curse of the Bloody Tome
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>>45034999
>>45035949

Damn son, that is one awkward Soul Sisters deck! Either that or you must freaking LOVE plains as much as to run 11 in a Merfolk deck!

White master Race-ist!
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>>45035108
At least you don't live in a third world shithole, there's like two stores in the whole country that sell cards and models of any kind.
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>>45036213
All types of card games, he usually does this little "cee-lo" game where they both put up something for a card he has for example 4x Goyfs from him and the person can either Put something up of equal value or work for him for free.

If you would beat him in a roll, he pull a "I get unlimited rolls since I own the store" type shit. So next time you go over there see if you can find the board saying how many people are working for him for free.
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>>45036304
>Land (22)
>4 Dismal Backwater
>12 Swamp
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>>45036379
Huh, I actually did notice them once playing some dice game, but I didn't pay any attention to it.
Although if he pulls some bullshit like that then what makes you think that you'd have to honor the agreement?
Just saying, if I win the roll I expect goyfs or the bet is off.
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>>45036440
Yeah some people walk away or some people just keep playing. So he preys on little kids who don't know any better. Sure he lets some walk away with cards that aren't worth much to show that even he can lose sometimes.

So long story short, Scumbag store.
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>>45036304
If you're looking to be more competitive, I suggest abandoning all ideas about milling your opponent. Cards like Mind Sculpt and Curse of the Bloody Tome are incredibly bad. I'm not going to tell you zombie tribal is good in modern but you can at least make some better card choices here. I recommend you replace Sculpt with Thought Scour and be sure to target yourself. You stand a change to get value off your Ghoulcaller Chants by way of dumping zambies into the yard and you don't waste a card since it cantrips. Targeted discard like Duress would also be good here. Look into Geralf's Messenger, Diregraf Ghoul and Grave Crawler while you're at it.

Ultimately, I think you need to spend a bit more time learning and enjoying the game before you jump into the competitive arena.
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>>45036494
Ahh.
Well unfortunately I don't know any other store that does fnm modern for such a cheap price.
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>>45036571
Yeah they got a decent crowd going, I know of the majority of them since they used to go to the other SI store, Get there games.
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>>45036636
Eh, I guess maybe its because I go there with a friend, so the experience isn't all that bad. The only store that I will absolutely avoid is Kings Games because their staff has been rude as shit to me in the past.
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>>45036771
One of these days I'll crack and go over
to Gamechamps to play. But I won't.

But yeah the crowd ain't bad it's the ownership I have problems with.
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Why don't they reprint this in a Modern legal set? Its a fun but skill testing card.
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>>45036835

Too strong for Standard
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>>45036835
They could put it in MM3 as a special case but I won't hold my breath.
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>>45036904
How? It's a bolt with two downsides. Sorcery speed and the ability to be redirected to you or your creatures.
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>>45036925
>it's a bolt
Too strong for standard.
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>>45036972
God I hate standard so much. Why would babies even want to play a low power level game? I love doing power plays and slapping down strong threats and a tension filled match that comes down to a few cards. Feels way better then dragging a game out till turns 7 and finishing your opponent off with no tension whatsoever.
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>tfw no twin to keep the degenerate decks in check
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>>45037017
Wizards is a business, and businesses gravitate toward what makes them money. Sadly, that means they print a hilarious amount of shit for standard and don't give 2 hoots about eternal formats. And if standard can't have nice things except meme rhino and New Jace, modern can't get anything good either.
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>>45037017
I will clarify that I do think there is such a thing as too much power ie formats like Vintage and cards like the power 9 , wasteland, force of will and JtMS but to me Modern has the perfect balance of power.
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>>45037020
>muh policeman
Twin didn't keep anything in check
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>>45037119
But why? You're telling me casuals prefer shock to bolt? Or Beastmaster Savant to Noble Hierarch?
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>>45037191
Yeah, when they're in the opponent's deck.
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>>45037191
Yeah I don't really understand this

I play standard and I like it well enough but it's silly that they are afraid to print stuff like bolt.
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>>45037020

>Twin
>Police

The real powlice is BGx.
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>>45036377
I'm fucking done now,
4x Mutavault
3x Cavern of Souls
1x Oboro
1x Minamo
11x FUCKING ISLANDS

4x Aether Vial
4x Spreading Seas
2x Vapor Snag
4x CurseCatcher
4x Master of the Pearl Trident
4x Lord of Atlantis
4x Silvergill Adept
4x Harbinger of the Tides
2x Phantasmal Image
4x Merrow Reejery
1x Kira, Great Glass Spinner
3x Master of Waves
SB
4x Hurkyl's Recall
2x Remand
2x Relic of Progenitus
2x Unified Will
2x Spellskite
1x Vapor Snag
2x Dismember
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>>45037221
but it was in standard than every deck could play it
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>>45037302
Yeah but you're forgetting casuals are fucking stupid and emotion-driven. They'll play with practically anything, but if they play against something that's even remotely powerful they get all mopey and butthurt. They'd much rather play with Shock than play against Bolt.
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>>45036377
>>45037281
Kek
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>>45037354
>mfw 3CMC Sorcery bolt

I still don't know what the fuck wizards was thinking.
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>>45034999
So the plan is to...

Spreading Seas your Plains?

Yea I suppose that works.
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>>45037499
I miss the days of RTR burn in standard. It's an archetype that should NEVER be out of the standard format. The video below is probably one of my favorite matches of burn versus control in standard.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4LNkyD9l8M
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I want to make a crazy stupid deck that uses these cards I have sitting
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>>45037661
Best advice I can give is for you to build a Burn deck as you should Burn those...
Lel
I can see groundbreaker being a explosive card in a Green stompy list with CoCo, that's about it
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>>45037119
>modern can't get anything good either.

Are you serious?

Monastary Swiftspear
Dig through time
Treasure cruise
Fetches
Tasigur
Gurmag Angler
Ugin
Monastary mentor
Soulfire Grand Master
Kolaghans Command
Ojutai
Dromokas Command
Atarkas Command
Ojutai's command
Narset
Pia and Kiran Nalaar
Hangarback Walker
Abbot of Keral Keep
Days undoing
bfz sucked though, I can't wait to see the impact of oath
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>>45037555
>Sphinx's Rev for 7
>Only gains 2 life

Wut.
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>>45037942
he got hit for 5 the turn before
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>>45037555
Also the guy plays an Eidolon and attacks with it in the same turn

What the fuck am I looking at here?
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>>45037995
No he was clearly at 7 life, they even mention it.

Seriously what the fuck am I looking at here?
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So I know a few people, all professionals with postgraduate education, who would like to learn how to learn the ins and outs of Magic so that they can play very well at the kitchen table with the two of us in our social group that already play competitively. I had the idea of building a pair of identical 40-card decks in the same line of thought as Judge's Tower: have a variety of speeds and effects involved to create corner cases that illustrate basic game mechanics at a high level.

What are some of the more bizarre and/or skill-testing interactions you've seen in Modern? Is there a deck in the format that would be particularly suitable as a starting point?
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>>45038392
>Professionals with post-grad education
>Want to teach them MTG

Pls dont anon
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>>45038392
Try to include something like mother of runes. Most players aren't aware you can tap creatures after declaring them as blockers.
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Are snap/cryptic loops the best thing ever in modern?
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>>45038542
Snap into Cryptic is 6 mana. I'd rather Bolt-Snap-Bolt.
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>>45038571
Yeah but how else am I going to durdle long enough to rev for 12 if I just bolt you
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>>45038542
No thats KC/Snap/KC
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>>45038492
I'd been thinking Sakura Tribe Elder for the same reason, but yeah. Mom's a good idea.
>>45038458
Why? They apparently want to learn.
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>>45038392
Not modern but the duel deck series. Most of the time they're balanced against each other, and have some interesting interactions
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>>45038542
Yes.
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>>45034151
Ohhh whip my ass tron senpai, I've been a very bad bitch
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Hey guys, what have been some recent buyouts in speculation of the cards becoming good? I'm writing a paper for it. Gaddock Teeg and Voice come to mind.
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>>45038392
Bolts and a 3-loyalty planeswalker like baby Jace would be good for demonstrating priority.
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>>45038748
This, honestly. I collect the duel decks for this purpose. I think my favorite is Phyrexia Vs The Coalition,

Speed Vs Cunning might be better for teaching them though. Each deck has a well defined theme that they might want to latch onto.
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>>45038542
no because you're dead before you get to do that

remand snap loops are the best
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>>45039079
You do realize if you're playing against a deck that can kill you before you can cast cryptic, remand is pretty awful against, right?
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>>45038542
E.wit Primal loop is better
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>>45038970
Talk about Eye of Ugin, Eldrazi Temple , Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth and Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger. The former two are multiple buyouts happening in a short period of time. The last two are gradual increases caused by the Eldrazi hype.
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>>45039162
ok that is pretty sick
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>>45039106
false
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>>45039308
Remand means nothing when they just vomit it back down again

Remand is good when you have some kind of proactive threat to put a clock on the opponent and remand sets them back on tempo when they're trying to cast expensive stuff.

Remand is garbage against cheap 1-2 mana spells.
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>>45039411
be on play

delver > remand > remand > snap remand

obviously nutty but is gr8
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>>45039482
good luck flipping delver in a format without good cantrips
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>>45039619
i think blue is awful in general in modern so yeah good point.
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Stormchaser Mage should just take delvers place in the deck. Then you have more deck freedom
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>>45039619
Serum Visions is better for Delver
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>>45039676
If you can't grow facial hair, just accept it.
That looks ridiculous.
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>>45034151
Can you go to a grand prix if you aren't participating in the main event?
Is it worth going if you do side events and not the main event?
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>>45039664
>Stormchaser taking delver's place
kek

Difference between 1 and 2 mana is huge

Also Pyromancer exists.
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>>45037829
>BFZ sucked
I agree, but you're doing the set a disservice not mentioning Ulamog or the entire deck archetype spawned by the new eldrazi
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So with Twin out of the picture, what does the fish sideboard look like?
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>>45038392

How to and how not to kill Goyfs with Pyroclasm/Relics comes up a lot.

Also the Spellskite and Modular interaction is a quick one but demonstrates the various checks triggers use.
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>>45039942
>How to and how not to kill Goyfs with Pyroclasm/Relics comes up a lot.

Maybe I'm just bad at magic but I don't think I get this. Is it that if you pop the relic first, your opponent has the window to cast an instant/crack a fetch and save the goyfs?
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>>45040147

Yes. You have to let the damage resolve, and then clear the yard. He gets no opportunity to feed the yard to save them.
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Does Rending Volley actually matter in a format with both Flame Slash and Combust available?
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>>45040202
>guise is a 1 mana instant better than a sorcery and a 2 mana instant that do the same thing?
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>>45039779
I believe you can. If playing magic all day and spending more money than you should sounds fun, I'd say it's worth it.
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>>45039847
that entire deck only works because of eye of ugin and eldrazi temple
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Someone r8 my deck

4x Wild Nacatl
4x Avatar of the Resolute
4x Strangleroot Geist
3x Dungrove Elder
4x Eternal Witness
4x Experiment One
3x Leatherback Baloth
2x Qasali Pridemage
2x Scavenging Ooze
4x Vines of Vastwood
2x Aspect of Hydra
4x Collected Company

4x Windswept Heath
4x Wooded Foothills
2x Temple Garden
1x Treetop Village
2x Stomping Ground
7x Forest
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>>45040421

Going with this. I just mull if I don't get one of them or at least a map (dat tempo loss tho). And the big dieseldrazi is in OGW.

Newlamog, Strangler, Hearder and Sower are just 4 cards, that's shit for a big set.
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>>45040548
thought-knot seer seems like a great card for that deck.
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>>45040421
but it only exists because of the new eldrazi, which was my point
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>>45035045
The Choke/Boil hate is just too strong.
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How bad is death and taxes in modern? I kind of want to build it.
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>>45040624
fair point, but you'd be remiss to ignore the value of having a pair of cards which make that very high CMC become moot.
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>>45040965
rock paper scissors deck
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>>45040613

That's the dieseldrazi.

I have both memedrazi and affinity (proxied, I shift cards between decks), so I was playtesting shit out. Affinity wins pretty hard, but dieseldrazi + an army of souls + vault of the archangel kept memedrazi in the fight longer than it should have. He just has a big fat fucking ass for 2 mana (in magical christmas land, usually you're paying 2 <> and 4/4 is still fucking booty on top of a thoughtseize snipe)

The deck has issues getting through parity, and lingering souls helps big time with that. Plus, BW runs cards like Path, Relic, Bog, Extraction, among others, so shit feeds the processing naturally without having to run bad cards like Relic 5-8.

>mfw I've won more beating face with souls and scions more than the actual big guys
>mfw I should have just bought BW Tokens
>mfw marsh flats are fucking expensive as shit
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So, after the 2 burn decks in the top 16 of that SCG tourney, I've finally decided that nacatls and commands are worth it. Now I just have to figure out how to board with burn, namely which cards to board out? I'm running the 9th place maindeck with -1 mutagenic growth, +1 searing blaze md, and the following board:
2 palm
4 revelry
2 path
3 firewalker
1 smash to smithereens
1 searing blaze
2 vocanic fallout
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>>45041071
you could just run bloodstained mire (or flooded strand but it's more expensive) in its place. having exacties fetchlands only matters with 3 or more colors.
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>>45041118
could try cards like qasali pridemage and kataki, war's wage against affinity, if there's more of that in your meta.
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>>45041172
I'm not tuning it for a specific meta, I'm tuning it for Regionals
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>>45038970

Glittering Wish was out of stock in scg yesterda, but the day before that day there was like 8 available.
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>>45041214
what do you think of a card like guttural response?
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>>45041258
doesn't burn, not worth it against delver, nothing else relevant runs counters
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>>45041071
>dieseldrazi
Wew lad
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So /tg/ I am wanting to become a private Magic dealer and, maybe some day, open my own shop. I plan to start distribution through TCGPlayer and then, if I am making a profit, slowly look for a place to lease.

I don't care about the feasibility of this. I am well aware that my odds of success are slim to none. The only thing I have going for me is my determination and the fact that the only shop in my city is poorly-run.

My question for you guys is this: What is the best way to pick up stock in terms of singles? Should I just buy from TCGPlayer and then resell at a slight profit? Should I crack boosters?

Any help, especially from people in this industry, is greatly appreciated.
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>>45041474

Do you want to open a game store or do you only want to sell Magic cards?
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>>45041474
couple of things could help:
Find cards which sound great but aren't used because no one is paying attention to them. Delay, Rise//Fall, Kiki-Jiki are all good examples.
trade for junk rares and cash out at dealers at GPs
Buy boxes and sit on them. Buy sets with multiple valuable cards in them so the price goes up faster. For your money, conspiracy, Khans of tarkir, and mm2 are all relatively cheap and have a ton of good stuff
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>>45041535

For the time being I want to stick to just Magic cards. My goal is to make enough to support my own Magic habits while being a reliable source of cards and good customer service.
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>>45041555

I appreciate the advice. I plan to start investing in my efforts soon.
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>>45041576
If you have a big enough cardpool you can be "that guy" and you can start trading at buy prices rather than market value. I would also always trade for desireable stuff, and foils.
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>>45041576

I think you're gonna have a pretty poor time running a physical shop if you don't carry shit for normies.
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>>45038032
He played a Hallowed Fountain untapped. Dropped to 5, rev'd for 4.

Pay attention mate.
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>>45040491
run bolts and paths????
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>>45041658
Alright, I was mistaken.

But this was still a cheat:

https://youtu.be/V4LNkyD9l8M?t=1189
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Drunk merfolk dude reporting in. Went 3-1.
Steamrolled B/W tokens, beat uwr midrange, and had a tight game against zoo.
Lost to Tron.
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>>45042178

Should have packed Islands instead of Plains
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>>45042178
SON OF A BITCH
YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO KEEP TRON DOWN
THAT WAS THE DEAL MERFOLK
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>>45034342
tripfags are gross
>>45034288
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>>45042231
Whats the matter, cant count to 7?
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>>45042178
just played a 20+ turn game against B/x Eldrazi. Had lethal, he played All is Dust, board stalled, he played kozilek, I copied it, he exiled my kira and kozilek with ulamog and decked me

fuck i love this game and i love merfolk
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>go to my LGS today to try to buy a bunch of Ad Nauseam cards
>can only find one
I wanted to support my LGS.
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>Eye of Ugins are $40
Crack some MM2 packs if you want to play or cash out on the meme
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>>45043112
Or just don't fall for the Eldrazi meme.
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>>45042974
First off, how did he exile Kira and Koz with Kira out?

Second, what's your SB look like now that Twin is gone?
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>>45043297
he tossed a go for the throat at kira before playing ulamog

and i've yet to change it so:

2 Vapor Snag
2 Relic of Progenitus
2 Spell Pierce
2 Spellskite
2 Remand
4 Hurkyl's Recall
1 Dismember
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>>45042974
Bet you'd have won if you just used that sweet new Plains tech.
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>>45043335
You should've still had Koz on the field of he only targeted Kira. Kira gives that ability to all your creatures, so unless he cast 2 spells AND Ulamog, you got cheated.
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>>45043400
ah that's what i thought, too. oh well
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>>45043400
That's not how phantasmal image works, friend.
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>>45043575
Ah. I it was an image. Missed that. I'm tired.
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>>45043091

I have this problem too. I want to support my lgs but they often don't have what I need in stock so I order it off of tcgplayer or something.

I'll buy what I can from them and I'll snag the occasional edh card but they're running low on stock now that the owner's wife took over the day to day operation.
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>>45043676

I try to buy from my LGS, but he keeps selling shit online. I still try there first, though.
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played this abomination tonight to 2-2:

1 Anticipate
1 Blue Sun's Zenith
2 Cryptic Command
2 Deprive
1 Go for the Throat
2 Kolaghan's Command
4 Lightning Bolt
1 Logic Knot
2 Mana Leak
1 Mystical Teachings
2 Remand
2 Spell Snare
3 Terminate
1 Think Twice
1 Blood Crypt
1 Cavern of Souls
4 Flooded Strand
4 Island
4 Polluted Delta
2 Steam Vents
3 Sulfur Falls
1 Swamp
1 Temple of Deceit
2 Watery Grave
1 Keranos, God of Storms
4 Snapcaster Mage
1 Vendilion Clique
1 Wydwen, the Biting Gale
4 Serum Visions
1 Jace, Architect of Thought
sb
1 Countersquall
2 Crumble to Dust
1 Darkblast
2 Dispel
2 Dragon's Claw
1 Jace, Architect of Thought
1 Languish
2 Negate
1 Volcanic Fallout
2 Wurmcoil Engine

Round 1 vs RUG delver (win 2-0)

This matchup feels pretty good for me. He just could not get a threat to stick and in game 1 snapcaster beats finished him off after he dealt a ton of damage to himself. Game 2 I forced through a keranos and I don't think he had an out in the 75.

Round 2 vs UR delver (lose 1-2)

This matchup feels not bad but it's definitely worse than the rug version. More young peezy and more/better countermagic. More bolts to my face. I think I could have won game 3, but I got greedy and instead of dredging darkblast to kill the young pyro I wanted to let him waste resources making tokens then end step teachings for volcanic fallout, but I couldn't force it through.

Round 3 vs burn (win 2-1)

Game 1 is intense and I win at 2 life after spending something like 5 turns remanding and snap remanding lethal burn. Game 2 he says his hand is awful and he should mulligan but he keeps. I keep a hand full of removal. He kept a hand with no creatures, just straight burn. Game three I had a turn one dragon's claw and it won me the game. He didn't see it in game two so I don't think he knew to side in destructive revelry.

Round 4 vs esper control

Holy shit I do not know how to play a control mirror. Or sideboard. Leyline of sanctity is really good against keranos.
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>>45043676
My store has completely stopped opening boxes of the new set for singles. Starting with Fate Reforged there were no more singles of the new stuff. You take a $60 at cost box, spend $15 in labor to crack it open and sort only to sell the fucking singles for maybe $20 on average. Or you can sell the box for somewhere between $100-$150 and virtually zero labor.

It is working out just fine.

Any stores cracking boxes for singles are hemorrhaging money.
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>>45043851
my lgs exclusively buys singles from people to keep their stock up. cash or store credit, and because it's a pretty big playerbase they usually have plenty of stuff.
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>>45043112
They're only like $30 from reasonable sellers.
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Tweaking the shit out of my spicy new meme

Still want to find room for 2x Crucible somewhere, and possibly different planeswalker counts.
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>>45043907
Yeah, you need a massive player base to justify a store credit system. Someone has to put dollars in your pocket. Granted, in a regular sized community the majority of people who persist on store credit wouldn't buy cards even if there wasn't a store credit system. I just feel like store credit feels too much like charity. All the effort on the part of the store owner that yields this weird unreliable amount of dollars.

You're ultimately going to have to eat the cost of singles that fail to sell before rotation. A large community ensures that you make enough money to keep it all going.

I'm happy to have a place to play. And whatever the store owner has to do to keep the roof over his head I'm down for.

>>45044005
I love decks that take Jund-principles and adds this overwhelming feeling of how badly you're losing. With Jund past and present you didn't really feel like you were losing. It was just a Putrid Leech or a Bloodbraid Elf. Seems "fair". Something like this is just back-to-back backbreakers. You ruin some guy's day only to kick them when they're down.
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>>45044005
what is this?
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>>45040965
>>45041019
Sadl, this.
You bot gold matchups vs combo, "control" and Utron. rgtron and every deck with creatures just walks all over you
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>>45036388
Holy shit, my EDH deck is playable in Modern? This looks like fucking fun to play. I guess Genesis Wave has already been bought out?
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>>45044046
it's Ernhamgeddon.

Dankdwellers let you cast the Bust half of Boom/Bust out of the yard.

The basic premise is to spot remove, Boom a fetchland or flagstone on your side, wrath, cast dank dwellers onto an empty board with boom/bust in the yard, cast Bust and leave Dankdwellers as the only permanent on the board.
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>>45044183
nope I just checked. Genesis wave is only $7
>>45044215
seems good, though I'm not sure how well it fares against collected company.
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>>45034774
>shilling against tripfags
How the fuck do you "shill" "against" a tripfag you fucking mongoloid cocksucking piece of newfag shit

Kill yourself you homolord
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>>45044227
INB4 NYKTHOS GENWAVE SCOOZE WITNESS COURSER BUYOUT SPEC!!!1211!!!
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>>45044293
a buyout of witness and probably courser would mean nothing, there's too many printings of both of those cards. Nykthos, Gen wave and Scooze would be pretty significant though.
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>>45036551
>I don't know how to read
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>>45044293
Thankfully there arent alot of cards to 'buy out' from this deck. Garruk has been printed to death, Nykthos is from the new era so there's hundreds of thousands of copies floating around and the same goes for Ooze and Witness.

The only real candidates are Genesis Wave and Tooth and Nail, with the latter already having spiked.
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>>45044359
ooze has only been printed twice, and its only in the sideboard.

I'm with you on genesis wave though. Card could spike really quickly.
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>>45037138
that's probably because you're an idiot
Wasteland and Force need to be in Modern, Modern is fucking garbage for brainless mongoloids right now, but hey some memekids love counting to 20 and turning shitty 2/2s sideways
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>>45044005
I still think Pyromancers and Crack the Earth is a powerful enough engine to replace the WoG, have you tried it?
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>>45038392
that's quite possibly one of the single most retarded ways of teaching anything I've ever seen concocted in my entire life

I don't think I could even have conceived of someone being so absolutely horrible at thinking
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>>45038392
just give them some pauper decks you fucking moron
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>>45041576
>>For the time being I want to stick to just Magic cards. My goal is to make enough to support my own Magic habits while being a reliable source of cards and good customer service.
just get a better job and pay for it as a hobby you fucking idiot
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>>45043091
TBF the cards in the ad nauseam engine are jank otherwise.
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>>45044420
>the two most powerful cards in legacy and vintage
>not Brainstorm and Brainstorm
fucking casuals
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>>45044421
i actually think that's a fantastic idea but i'm not 100% sure this deck can handle it correctly.
i'll test a few builds of that and see where it goes.

>mfw i get to play Ernhamgeddon again
>with no serrated arrows or aeolipile
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>>45044516
in terms of raw power both wasteland and force are much more powerful. Brainstorm is a good cantrip that only gets better but can very easily feel like a dead card.
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>>45044429
>>45044441

Wow, rude. The dude was just asking for some honest advice.
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>>45036378
There are 19 stores in Mexico City.
Of course they constantly try to cannibalize each other's sales and tournaments that could gather 300+ people end up getting 30 each across 10 stores.
And they don't even compete in singles pricing, they use SCG.
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>>45034669
Chicago? A guy at my shop foiled out Grixis Twin with expeditions too.
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tfw u get skullcracked on the turn u gain 80 life on
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>>45037747
Hornet Queen isn't bad.

Fuck it actually saw some play in Grishoalbrand/BloomTitan.
>>45037661
Hornet Queen's great at fucking up Affinity and other hyper aggro decks
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>>45045205
>turn 3
what
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>>45045409
genesis wave for a lot hitting a new nykthos, letting u e wit genesis wave for more, etc
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>>45045420
How do you hit a genesis wave for that much that early is the real question
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>>45045466
turn 2 garruk + arbor elf + utopia sprawls = insane mana turn 3
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Playing modern in jacksonville florida sucks balls. It's pretty much standard or bust.
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>>45037747
if your playing fast, sure. It makes your burn machup way worse though.
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>>45044183

I know that feel bro

>tfw all your jank .50 rares from EDH that you bought like 8 of are 10-20 bux now
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>started playing MTG with Battle for Zendikar
>bought 10 boosters
>80€ Expedition
>bought a booster box from that
>120€ Expedition
>waited for Oath of the Gatewatch
>another Expedition
I'm okay with that.
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>>45045815
>tfw all your jank .50 EDH rares are still .50
Life is suffering but my deck is still fun
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Show me your deck /tg/. You DO have one right? Potatographs are acceptable. I'll wait.
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Still tweaking my jeskai control deck. Removed lightning helix, added sphinx's revelation. Telling Time seems like a good fallback spell when the opponent tries to play around my counterspells. Thoughts?
As usual, I consider 20$+ cards to be outside of my budget range. So no snapcasters and no cryptic commands. I can barely afford lands as it is.
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>>45047094
Forgot link.
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/jeskai-control-budget/
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>>45046535
Why don't you just cash out now and save yourself years of heartache?
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>>45047102
I honestly don't think Chandra is a good win condition. If you're really planning on slow-rolling your opponent, lose 2 Mana Leak and add 2 Remand. Mana Leak becomes useless once your opponent has enough mana to pay the permission. You're running scarce few non-instant spells, so consider losing some counters for 1 or 2 more Verdicts and maybe an Elixir of Immortality.
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>>45047094
Does this...Does this win at all?

I mean not to be rude but it looks like you just raided someone's collection and put a deck together.
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>>45047277
Mana Leak is a lot better in this meta since fast decks simply cannot pay for it.
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>>45047094
You can do better if $20 cards are out of your range imo.
Replace Dissipate with Remands, Negate with Spell Snare, Quicken And Telling Time with Serum Visions.
Remove Probes and add 1 more verdict and a wrath.
Maybe remove negates for something like Ojutai's command
For Wincons you have 6CMC Elspeth and Gideon Jura for budget options. I think that Dragonlord Ojutai is also under $20.

For Sideboard:
Remove Nyx-Fleece and add Kor Firewalker or Timely Reinforcements
Remove Radiant Flames and add Anger of the Gods
Don't know about the rest right now
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>>45047034
I actually don't own a complete deck ever since I sold mine off to pay for a trip.
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>>45047034
Potatoes go well with eggs
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>>45047673
>Blind Obedience
For what purpose?
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>>45047870
Not him but it's an alternate win con that has the benefits of helping him stay alive and not having to target.
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>>45046535
Please go fuck yourself.
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>>45047673
Fuck. I should build an eggs deck. Looks fun to play.
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>>45047673
>>45047932
Isn't faith's reward banned in modern?
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>>45047998
no
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>>45047673
I'm looking to try my first combo deck
Is eggs cheap? Is it fun for me? Don't care about opponent
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>>45048230
If you enjoy jerking off in public it's the best you can get... or giving your opponents a real bad time when they thought they would be playing magic. Sweet Jizz-us
I love piloting the deck xD
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>>45048337
That sounds good, I like mental masturbation.

Is it chheeeap? How much is it?
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all combo decks should just go extinct as they're cancer ruining this game.
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>>45047094
I don't know why you play white. Especially if you take lightning helix out, which is one of your best spells and imo the only reason to play white. On grixis you would get better threats (tasigur, angler) and arguably better removal such as terminate. PtE land is really tough or at least I always felt the downside of it is too hard to bear sometimes. Sphinx's revelation is pretty shit card as modern is so fast as a format, that you won't probably ever get to cast it. You rather draw another removal instead of it. If you cannot afford lands, then colonnades are going to hurt you a lot, therefore get anglers, pia, whatever. Also, as snapcasters and jace's cost so much, I wouldn't recommend build a control build at all. When geist gets reprint, it's cheap wincon and you want to back it with 4x bolt 4x helix. Counterspells are a bit shit, wouldn't run more than 4 ever, unless it's spell pierce/dispel 1-2 offs. Gitaxian probe is shit without young pyromancer, so consider running that package, but I felt it's a bit too slow in modern, as you can't back it up as well as in legacy. (Well, geist ain't too good either) Personally I feel like you don't need more shocks but few checklands to back them up. Taking damage in burn format is pretty annoying. Would consider new UR manland as colonnade subtitude.

So all in all, your deck is underpowered and lacks finishers imo.
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>>45048428
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>>45048471
I mean, it's only a little wrong. The format is now, apparently, linear aggro and RUG Delver.
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>>45048428
While I don't personally enjoying playing with or against them, I understand that they're an essential part of the game's balance. Without the threat of combo keeping sideboards honest, the game becomes a stagnant aggro-fest. Of course, this is assuming control is capable of stopping combo decks in the first place.
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>>45048428
More like we need control in the format imo.

Otherwise the format just turns into Aggro vs Clocks
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>Twin still has the most top 8s in the last 2 months
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>>45048974
We're 5 days after ban without a major tourney, the fuck you expect.
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>>45034151
What is she balancing on? Is that a bird's nest? How is keeping her balance? Or am I looking at it wrong?
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>>45048944
Control gets raced by aggro too hard usually, without combo or midrange, control won't happen.
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>>45048899
I used to laugh at people saying Magic was becoming Creatures: The Tappening.
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So going off mtgtop8 since the ban came into effect, the future is bleak for Modern.

>Zoo x1
>Scapeshift x2
>Infect x1
>Burn x1
>Affinity x3
>Podless Company x1
>Allies x1
>Abzan x1
>RUG Delver x1

So you're either playing an uninteractive aggro deck, an uninteractive combo deck, or Delver.
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>>45049025
If it had viable answers. Control in modern is full frontal removal or some other weird shit, that's not standard "blue draw-go". Hell, basically jund and tron are both control decks. Even fow wouldn't save blue control in modern.

Btw, were decks on ban radar during summer, or is it always bloody january massacre?
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>>45049067
I've been thinking about building Affinity. It pretty much wins against anything it faces. Even if you face infinite life, you can win with infect and Inkmoth.
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>>45049120
>jund and tron are both control decks
Ha ha! I love this meme! This here is what I call a meme! A supreme meme! This meme could easily get 5 meme points on the meme market! I'll trade you! I have;
>remand is a timetable
>twin is control
What'll it meme?
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>>45049023
She's a magical elf wearing toeless thighhighs made out of metal grafted to her body. And you ask "how is she balancing"?
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>>45049139
Affinity has been the best deck in the format for a good while now. The numbers even support this.
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>>45049067
>Aggro
>Uninteractive

The fuck are you smoking?
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>>45048349
Most pieces are almost dirt cheap here in europe aside from lotus bloom and leyline of sanctity.
Here:
http://www.mtggoldfish.com/archetype/modern-kci-eggs#paper

Glimmervoid is not needed, it's but it's a very good upgrade.

Some list run Mox opal$ which are expensive.

Some lists run the Urza Tron lands.

As for wincons it can be as cheap as pyrite spellbomb, codex shredder or as expensive as Emrakul, your choice.

Blind obedience which has extort is a good wincon that says FU to leyline of sanctity. That same leyline should be a four of in your SB and it maybe the most expensive piece.

Last but not least:
http://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/the-game/modern/modern-archives/224402-sunrise-combo#c3

^ This is a guide for whoever wants to learn how to play the deck. It's a very good guide, I suggest you read it if interested, the deck has a lot of sequencing, it's the key to play the deck in fact, good luck and may your opponents enjoy their breakfasts
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>>45049238
It's uninteractive you cuck
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>Why Stoneforge Mystic wouldn't stop the current metagame:

>Burn
Skullcrack/Atarka's Command can stop the lifegain just long enough to finish you. And I don't think a Burn player will mind spending a Bolt to deal with Stoneforge Mystic before she becomes a problem.
>Affinity
Too fast, too many fliers, can resort to infect kills.
>Infect
Hahahaaaa.
>Scapeshift
Runs Bolt for the sole purpose of dealing with threats just like Stoneforge Mystic.
>Delver
Spell Snare and Bolt answer her perfectly, and Mana Leak is perfect for dealing with the Batterskull.
>Zoo
Sure, but I don't think Stoneforge Mystic having a good matchup means it's a problem.
>Jund/Abzan
Like nigger this is why you run Thoughtseize/Inquisition/Decay

I honestly cannot think of a matchup where Stoneforge Mystic would do anything in Modern outside of Zoo. Perhaps the problem is that people could just splash white for her? Or perhaps people are treating Stoneforge Mystic the same way Wizards treats Dread Return?
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>>45049238
Not him, but "Bolt your guy, attack" is barely interactive.
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>>45049139
Don't mate, it's a bad choice
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>>45049139
>I've been thinking about building Affinity
Sounds like a good plan. You've got at least a year of play until it rotates out of Modern.
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>>45049275
Tl; dr?
Basically every card has answers for it, hell you can remand a treasure cruise so treasure cruise shouldn't even be banned!
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>>45049305
If you'd have read the post you'd have seen at the bottom that I was wondering whether any deck could just start splashing white for Stoneforge in the exact same way everyone splashed blue for Cruise. And this isn't a case of one card being good against Cruise; this is a case of almost everything in Modern not really having a problem with Stoneforge Mystic.
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http://www.channelfireball.com/articles/why-the-twin-ban-was-a-mistake/
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>>45049275
>>Zoo
>Sure, but I don't think Stoneforge Mystic having a good matchup means it's a problem.
>>Jund/Abzan
>Like nigger this is why you run Thoughtseize/Inquisition/Decay


>>>>>>doesn't know zoo runs qasali pridemate
>>>>>>doesn't point out jund's kolaghan's command answers both parts of stone forge Mystic
This is why I don't listen to people like you. You don't know every deck in modern or how the metagame can fluctuate. You make redundant stupid points to try to get your waifu unbanned. Fuck off.
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>>45049354
>>45049275
>>45049354
Also this isnt me supporting your point. This is me pointing out that you haven't thought through your point enough to see the glaringly obvious aspects to it which is why it's stupid
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>>45049347
Pretty good article

Kinda hope Wizards realizes their mistake when the protour is 90% aggro
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I need some rules help.
Say I cast Matter Reshaper and the card I reveal is Endless One. May I cast the Endless One as a 3/3?
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>>45043790
If you want to beat that Esperfag, try running 2 Teferi in the sideboard. You already have maindeck Cavern on Wizard, casting Teferi off of it is basically gg for any other control deck.
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>>45049438
If you choose to put it on the battlefield it's a 0/0 and will die
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>>45049454
Alright, I had a feeling that was the case. Good to know that X defaults to 0. Thanks.
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I don't support twin but isn't the logic of "it's the best deck" kind of stupid? I mean, you ban it and people find the next best deck and it's a circular pattern.
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>>45049449
This and dispel/spell pierce. Althought almost every control mirror i have played becomes: the one that plays first dies. Cheap hand disrupción is good too (looking at you, duress) so they waste a counter or lost their cryptic command
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>>45049281
But thats literally what Twin did as well

What the fuck do you consider interactive?
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SCG Atlanta Modern features
1st place: Temur delver
2.-3. place: Merfolk
4. place: Jund
5.-6. place: Affinity
7. place: Burn
8. place: Zoo

see link for decklists
http://sales.starcitygames.com/deckdatabase/deckshow.php?event_ID=36&t[T2]=28&start_date=2016-01-24&end_date=2016-01-24&state=GA&city=Atlanta&order_1=finish&limit=8&t_num=1&action=Show+Decks
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>>45049491
I play Grixis control and what I really hate about the twin ban (besides being a great matchup for me) is that it's kind of Wizards just saying "hey if something is popular for too long we are just gonna fucking ban it".

There was no real evidence that it was dominant in modern and it's win-rates were not anything special. The whole notion that it was kicked out weaker decks of the format just hurts my brain. It's literally the definition of tier 1 decks. They exist because they are the best and generally act as the gatekeepers for new brews.

I like playing modern well enough but if they do another dumb ban like that I'm likely to just cash out and convert to legacy
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>>45049501
If you're in black, thoughtseize is better than dispel, especially if you want to push through something he'll have a hard time answering, like Teferi or a planeswalker.

Esper has much better CA options than Grixis, so he's favored unless you can resolve something back breaking and defend it.
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>>45049354
>>45049413
If you didn't want to come across as supporting it, why did you advance his argument by pointing out Zoo's best answer and Kommand?

This is why I don't listen to people like you. You see an imperfect but serviceable argument in favor of something you don't like and dismiss it for not being perfect. People like you are the reason we can't have nice things.
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>>45049449
I think that's a good include. I was even thinking about replacing the wydwen in the main deck with teferi, but my store didn't have one.
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>>45049347
10/10 article
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>>45049600
>didn't read my second part but will rehash how I wrote a comment to rebuttal me due to how assblasted he is that someone doesn't agree His waifu should be unbanned
Okay kidd-o
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>>45049508
Yeah this!!

As far as I can remember Twin didn't really have any instant speed interaction with the other player

I mean there was only a few things like
>cryptic command
>remand
>snapcaster
>both combo creatures
>vendilion clique
>dispel
>electrolyze
>spell snare
>bolt
>other sideboard shit

But besides that it was a poopy gay blue deck!!!! Aggro is way more cool!
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>>45049599
>thoughtseize is better than dispel

I think that's really interesting advice. I was looking to put in a few thoughtseize since it's one of my favorite cards, but didn't know what to cut. I'll probably just switch those out.
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>>45049648
Kek
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>>45044005
nearly done with this list.
i just ordered the flagstones off tcgplayer for a minor wallet-raping. i don't have arid mesas right now though, so it's going to have to be scalding tarns, windswept heath, and flooded strand until i get the rent paid for next month and a fresh injection of funbux in my coffers.

i really want to do -1 chandra, -1 helix and put two crucible of worlds in. too cute though? is it even relevant?

i'm fucking R E A D Y to cast some Gobbogeddons.
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>>45049599
also, I was looking to put in 1-2 negate. Thoughts on that? Worth it or what I should cut if it is? I'm used to infect so this archetype is really new to me.
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>>45049508
"Barely" versus "hardly". And Twin ran counterspells, which are interactive.

When a deck is concerned with interacting with its opponent's strategy, not merely burning its creatures out of the way to swing in, that's what I'd consider an "interactive" deck. An "uninteractive" deck like Affinity, Infect, Bogles, and to a lesser extent Tron is one that is less concerned with answering its opponent's threats and more concerned with making sure it can jerk off onto the table uninterrupted by things like spot removal.
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>>45049449
>other control deck
>in modern
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>>45049646
>you're stupid, your arguments are stupid, and your waifu is stupid
>these now count as "arguments"
I didn't know The Donald played Magic.
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>>45049199
>>45049139
As the other anon said, Affinity is the best deck in the format, so don't play it unless you're fine with having to find a new deck after the next round of bannings.
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>>45044215
Sounds bad.
You have to draw the dwellers as well as have the bust in the yard. You have nothing to combat counterspells and burn won't care about your 5 drop 4/4's
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>>45049736
I do, and your arguement is stupid.
We need a wall to keep players like you our
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>>45049654
It depends if you go grixis, you are better with discard, but for reactive esper is better spell pierce
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>>45034151
I'm the only person at any of the stores I go to ago plays tron. I've actually been doing very well. However, I'm afraid of the tron butt rape coming now that twin is gone. Should I just sell our of tron and jump on the Eldrazi meme wagon?
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>>45049695
So the only thing that you consider to be interactive are Counterspells and nothing else?

May as well throw away that sideboard then, because who needs it when you are playing an uninteractive deck, right?

Fucking retard.
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>>45049491
Well, it's stupid in the way you framed it, but their argument was not that it was the best deck, but that it was the best deck by a large margin.

Of course, they were wrong and they're fucking idiots and they totally are just banning whoever has the biggest meta% so you're 100% right about things as they are, but what you said isn't what Wizards pretends is their MO
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>>45049829
Are you retarded?
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>>45049431
>Because obvously wizards hates aggro
The only thing i don't understand is how wizards haven't made superfriends something in modern, making a súper expensive deck for the format
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>>45049855
He is
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>>45049869
They tried with the Oath expansion, but they couldn't push the cards too hard. After all, while they love money, they hate fun even more.
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>>45049869
Oath of Nissa is a thing, it's not our fault as brewers that the bulk of planeswalkers ever printed are limited fodder.

>>45049855
The line between a straw man advanced to give an excuse to be a contrarian fuck and actual non-comprehension can be hard to see.
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>>45050019
>The line between a straw man advanced to give an excuse to be a contrarian fuck and actual non-comprehension can be hard to see.

So what you're saying is
I was rused?
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What modern deck has the most and best waifus?
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>>45050019
That Pinky Swear of Nissa seems like a strong card is just evidence of how incredibly boringly underpowered Standard is

I'd rather play Ponder in 99% of superfriends decks

yes I know Ponder is banned in Modern

I still cry everytime I'm reminded of it
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>>45050077
I'd settle for preordain really.
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>>45050042
I'm saying that the worst thing about it is you'll never be sure whether you've been rused or not.

Ever again.
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>>45050069
Death and Taxes. You get Thalia, Linvala, Restoration Angel in the decks that run her, and delicious Flickerwisp
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>>45050069
Esper gifts
You get Iona, elesh norn or even avacyn
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>>45049619
I wouldn't run Teferi in the main. He's amazing against other blue decks, and any time you need some flash beats, but he's generally terrible against aggro, which is now 75% of the format.

>>45049654
I prefer Thoughtseize in the control mirror because it lets you see your opponents hand. As a sideboard card, it also helps your bad MUs, like Tron, Ad Nauseum, and Bogles, more than dispel. The only time it sucks is against Burn.

>>45049694
1 Negate is fine in the main. In your list I would cut the deprives and add a MD negate and another spell snare.
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>>45050135
>>45050143
>my shitpost literally just brings me back to deciding between the two decks I like
Fuck did not anticipate that. Realistically what's the better call these days?
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>>45050160
>>45050160

New thread
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>>45050169
Probably Death and Taxes.

Gifts is going nowhere with all the maindeck Relics running around.
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>>45034912
Just be me and run a 40 dollar mono blue control deck and take second.
The hardest part is finding the trash rates .
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>>45050093
Hell, just Ponder is already "settling" in a way, but Brainstorm is just too much fun to be allowed in Modern and I actually agree with keeping it away from the format (though only because Wizards has shown repeatedly how much they loathe giving people good, universal answers, so combo decks would grow retarded strong unlike in Legacy where fair strategies just roll over them)
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>>45050107
Why'd you have to go and say a thing like that
I'll never be able to relax on /tg/ again
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>>45050213
>all the maindeck Relics running around
>literally one deck that's poorly positioned against everything in the new metagame
Or did Tron start running maindeck Relics? I saw mention of something like Relics in Tron
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>>45049827
You describe my situation to a T. Here are my thoughts on the matter: the new eldrazi deck is cute but doesn't have what it takes to be anywhere near as good as tron. If your okay with that then go for it. Personally, I don't like what I see in the deck. Further more, if you are concerned about an impending ban, I would like to point out that the prime target is the Eye of Ugin.

In the meantime, I just foiled out Ancient Stirrings and pimped Pyroclasm. I give 0 fucks and so can you.
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>>45049347
I was on board until the end where he says he would like to see more bans.
Griselbrand, Tron, affinity and lantern.

Maybe he should just fuck off to standard then.
He's just talking out his ass at this point.
>we need more answers in modern
>let's nerf decks that are good

Yea, let's just have only mediocre decks in the format
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>>45050869
Yeah he lost me at that point.
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>>45050726
It's not just the ban possibility. It's people jamming as many fulminators and crumble to dusts they can because they're worried about tron being too strong.
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>>45050993
Eh, just fight through it. You'll be fine.
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Should I continue running Mirran Crusader in my Hatebears sideboard or is it a waste of slots?
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>>45049869
What do you think the pushed as fuck oath cycle was? You can have ponder goyim, but it can only draw you mythic rares.
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>>45049067
infect, affinty, and zoo are all interactive. the have the ability to control you opponent up to there win con. Lantern is less interactive then them
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>>45047870
>>45047896
This.

>>45047998
You're thinking of Second Sunrise. FR is fine and dandy.

>>45048230
It's a bit uninteractive, but it's cheap and rewards tight play. KCI allows you to get sloppier as you combo on, but those first plays are important. Correct sequencing and reading the game are rewarded with a win. It's also good that not everyone sideboards as well against the deck as they could, mostly since they don't know the deck as well.

FAIR WARNING: if you decide to do eggs, make sure you can combo out fast. Know what you are doing. Otherwise you're giving eggs players a bad name everywhere by durdling around forever. It's not fun for you, it's not fun for your opponent who has to endure a lot as is with the deck. Practice the deck hours on end at home before taking it to a real game. Luckily, the deck lends itself well to goldfishing.

The link that
>>45049239
provided is decent, read that all the way through. There's a primer on mtgsalvation called Poached Eggs as well, it's fairly informative. This one is dated after the SS ban.
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>>45034413
The annual move into aggro.

BTW Rate my fishies.
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>>45052369
Fishies SB:
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>>45052369
Looks identical to every other modern fish deck ever, senpai.
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>>45052516
The difference is I run chalice main and vapor snag in the SB.
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>>45036388
That pile of garbage is playable?
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