Reminder that they started a war with the Inquisition over the

What is this, a chapter for ants?

bark bark

>"Hey guys, despite half of our Chapter being mutated, we know how to deal with Chaos taint better than the guys who's job it is to deal with Chaos taint"

>>45006522
having an unstable canis helix isn't exactly the same as chaos corruption

>>45006569
>purge the mutant

>>45006590
Bye bye countless Astartes chapters, then.

>>45006407

>Bro chapter

They killed a Dark Angel in spite for beating them fair and square in a friendly duel.

>>45006606
Like the whole 21st founding?

>>45006606
Good riddance

>>45006569
Yeah, that's what they all say.
>"It's not Chaos, it's a mutation I swear!"

>>45006407
You do realize they were in the wrong, right? You can't let people who've made contact with Chaos go free.

>>45006606
More like ALL Astartes chapters. EVERY Astartes is genetically altered and mutated into a super-soldier.

>>45006697
By that logic, we should kill the entire Ordo Malleus, every psyker, and completely ban Warp travel.

>>45006865
It's ok though because the Emperor made them.

>>45006878
Navigators are necessary for interstellar travel. Daemonhunters are presumably necessary to combat the worst Chaos incursions (and mutilate SoB). Warp travel is necessary because man doesn't have DAoT or Necron level technology or a webway.

>>45006865
The thing is that's not a random Chaos mutation or even a series of mutations. As I understand it Astartes are about as far as you can get from humans while still being considered one.

>>45006927
The weird thing is genetically, an astartes would probably be closer to a pure human than anyone else would. The Gene-seed acts as Bio-Enhancements, not genetic modification.

>>45006937
Still a deviation from "holy" human DNA and form and such.

>>45006981
I mean they still look human, just fucking really fucking big. But the emprah made them, so it's all good.

>>45006407
That doesn't sound very grimdark. I bet it will be retconned soon.

>>45006908
By your own words, you can't let people who've made contact with Chaos go free. Zero exceptions. Now, if you say "okay, we can let some people with Chaos go free" you've opened up the door for discussing whether or not, for example, blowing up an entire Knight World and flushing trillions upon trillions of throne's worth of the Emperor's property (not to mention the difficulty of making more Knights) because of a small-scale Warp incursion ended in short order by the Space Wolves tossing a Daemon Prince's soul back into the warp for a few more centuries is really justified. If we were talking about some backwater Feudal World, maybe you'd have a point, but good Knights don't grow in vats, despite what some in the Mechanicus may think.

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>>45006633
Not Ranuf's fault Baltasar is a wimp and can't take a proper beating.

>>45006981
>implying the Emperor's work isn't holy in itself.

>>45007043
You don't kill every human on the planet, just the ones who saw chaos. It takes extreme strength of mind and soul to not fall to chaos once you are aware of it. The big =I= constantly scans it's peeps for said corruption.

>>45007043
I'm not saying that the Grey Knights do everything right and that I agree with everything they've ever done, I'm just saying that it's necessary to have a group of warriors who know Chaos, can never fall to it and know how to fight it.

>>45007089
Didn't the Interix teach its people about Chaos and how to resist it properly?

>>45007082
Of course it is. Why else would it be allowed?

>>45007089
Didn't stop them from wanting to blow up ALL of Alaric Prime after the small-scale Warp Incursion at Scrap Peak.

>>45006522
> Questioning the Emperors holy work

That's a Blamming.

>>45006697
So also the entire populations of Cadia and Telleran.

And the hundreds of Regiments that fight in every Black Crusade.

I read once, and this might be old fluff, that the Grey Knights exterminated the regiments and death camped the population to try and find the Changeling deamon,.

Which is understandable. You don't want the Changeling running around because who knows what it might do. It might needlessly kill billions of people and severely weaken the Imperium across an entire sector of space or some crazy shit.

Thank the Emperor the Grey Knights were there to prevent that.

>>45007090
Despite the fact that we already have such a force in the Sisters of Battle? Only one has ever fallen to Chaos, and that was under highly unusually circumstances.

>>45007232
The SoB are just power nuns though. They're the witch hunters division.

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>>45007107
And don't you know what happened to them? They all got corrupted by Daemons and died in horrible ways. Only the Light of our most holy God-Emperor of Mankind provides safety from Chaos.

>>45007820
>And don't you know what happened to them?
They had to die because their continued existence poked holes in the Emperor's "only ignorance is a shield" thing he had going.

>>45007820
They were killed by an ancient psyker who thought that the best option for taking down the most subtle and dangerous force in the galaxy was to just tell nobody, ignore it and hope it would go away.

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>>45006407
We've had this thread a billion times.
All I'll say on the matter is it's typical Black Library shit, where "cursing the administratum" wasn't DRAMATIC enough for BL so they had to go and turn it into a full scale war with the Inquisition for MAXIMUM DRAMA.

Fucking Black Library

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I like how everyone is arguing about whether the Space Wolves were right or wrong in their fight against the Grey Knights, when they should be arguing about how much more bro-tier the Salamanders are.

>>45008256
they are niggers and the most unrealistic chapter by far lmao as if blacks could be good people and don't call me racist because only whites can be racist and I'm a Slav.

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>>45008544
Even the racist don't try that hard lad.

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>>45006407
>the most bro tier chapter

FTFY

>>45007230
>Have people who can detect Daemon
>Can't find a Daemon

>>45008048
It wasn't really a full scale war with the Inquisition.

It was one extremely buttmad puritan and his pet retarded chapter master who tried to flex his muscle and got cockblocked because the Imperium told him to fuck off.

>>45006569
I'm sure the Soul Drinker who grew spider legs thought the same thing

>>45007230
>So also the entire populations of Cadia and Telleran.
Wasn't Cadia purged repeatedly until they were declared a special exception/necessary evil? By the regular laws of the imperium they were repeatedly wiped out as a precaution.

>>45009748
Wasn't he loyal though?

>>45009706
IIRC Both sides were giant fuckheads in black library's retcon. The Space Wolves originally agreed that the guardsmen should be purges afterwards but that the civvies in the hives should be spared.

A new Lord Inquisitor comes in and decides everyone should be purged so the yiffs retaliate by saving the people everyone initially agreed should be purged at the outset.

>>45009826
>Wasn't Cadia purged repeatedly until they were declared a special exception/necessary evil?
Never heard anything like that, but Cadia is a shithole

>‘Do you? This is Cadia, you silly fool! Cadia! Right on the doorway of Chaos! Right in the heart of everything! The seepage of evil is so great, I have a hundred active cults to subdue every month! A hundred! The place breeds recidivists like a pond breeds scum. I sleep three or four hours a night if I’m lucky. My vox chimes and I’m up, called out to another nest of poison that the arbites have uncovered. Firefights in the street, Eisenhorn! Running battles with the foot soldiers of the archenemy! I can barely keep up with the day-to-day banishments, forget the past cases my crap-witted predecessor filed. This is Cadia! This is the Gate of the Eye! This is where the bloody work of the Inquisition is done! Don’t distract me with stories of some engineering club gone bad.’
-Eisenhorn (book 2 I believe)
Remember when Black Library novels expanded on the universe rather than retconning it? Pepperridge Farms remembers

Why not just extermanotus Cadia?

Also why are Cadian regiments considered the Imperial Standard if day to day life on Cadia is like >>45010115?

>>45010317
Because any soldier who stayed loyal through all that is probably about as incorruptible as an unmodified, unhypnoconditioned human can be.

>>45010317
I always thought the Inquisitor that Eisenhorn was talking to was referring to the planets AROUND Cadia, not Cadia itself. Cadia seems pretty well established as a completely militarized deathtrap of cities designed as fortresses, streets designed as killzones, and a recruitment rate equal with the birth rate.

>>45010362
Yeah but some of the people on here were saying that anyone exposed to Chaos is considered tainted for life

>>45010530
>most autistic primarch has the most autistic fanboys

>>45010504
There's a lot of fluff going a lot of different way about how chaos corruption works, Geedubs inconsistency and all that. I think it depends on how you're exposed.

In the case of the Volscani (a regiment the Inquisition deployed for their skill in fighting daemons), they turned because fighting a daemonic incursion is pants shittingly terrifying. And all it took to turn the Volscani was for the Dark Gods to say "If you work for us, you won't have to fight daemons anymore."

>>45010570
>the juggalo primarch has the most buzzword-dropping fanboys

>>45010619
Russ is objectively better than the Lion in all regards though. He's more loyal, less retarded, better looking and a better fighter.

>>45010504
Not anyone, but it depends on your will. Fighting chaos is an awful experience that can easily drive men insane, just read the Chaos Daemons Codex.

According to the Volscani fluff, they turned traitor because after they fought daemons they dwelled on what they had seen. Then the chaos gods said, "you know gais, if you do what we tell you to, you'll never have to worry about fighting daemons ever again."

And the Volscani said, "Oh shit really? Where do I sign up, I will literally sell my soul if it means I don't have to fight daemons ever again."

And so the Imperium prefers to play it safe and just mind wipe/purge anyone whose seen daemons so shit like that doesn't happen. The Volscani would proceed to ambush the Cadian High Command just before Abaddoo's 13th Black Crusade

>>45010669
You literally got everything wrong in that post.

>>45010695
not him but Jonson only won fights with sneak attacks like he did with the sucker punch on Russ and the sucker stab with Curze

>>45006407
>> Openly killed Grey Knights
>>think THEY know better then the chapter that is superior and more knowledgeable then them in every way on the topic
>>Allowing tainted Guardsman free because "they felt bad" and "warrior bond"

>>"felt bad"

This is why the wolves are the WORST chapter, they let their sentimental threaten countless worlds. They fucked up BIG time because they have to be the "independent" chapter, which the writers took to mean "retarded".

Back when Logan disagreed and hated the Inquistion for what they did it was ok, but once they started team killing its just plain idiocy, ESPECIALLY GREY KNIGHTS.

Its like the writers completely forgot the first War of Armageddon where they only lived because of these blokes, with Logan calling them irreplaceable hero's only to whine like a bitch two seconds later.

Hell, the ONLY reason the chapter is alive is because the writers have to keep waving the Fang as this "impenetrable fortress" that keeps those bad Inquisitors away, when now we have a story of the Thousand Sons breaching it in a fine enough manner.

Holy Fuck the Wolves have been a lore disaster for years, I remember when they were viking-ish SPACE MARINES... not space marine-ish vikings.

I remember when an entire great company died because the wolf lord tried to have sex with a Deamon of Slannesh... Seriously fuck these guys.

Everything after the 13th Black Crusade world event was a spiral to the wolves becoming just a pointless meme... its sad really.

>>45010848
Russ, a superhuman amazing fighter got suckerpunched... that is how much of a bitch he is.

Also he didnt with the fight with Curze... at all, if the Lions marines didn't intervene he would have been fucked...

>>45011354
>Sucker punched for no raisin while trying to apologize for being a hothead after three days of fighting another superhuman
>A bitch

Aight

>>45010317
It's not Cadian regiments, but Cadian style gear that's so pervasive.

Cadia probably needs the most equipment out of any planet in the galaxy. Hence the dictate the standard. Cadian style armor and weapons are so pervasive because the manufacturers are so used to making them, that it's just easier to make it the standard for all regiments that aren't specialized.

>>45011331
>I remember when an entire great company died because the wolf lord tried to have sex with a Deamon of Slannesh... Seriously fuck these guys.

Lolwut? When did this happen?

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>>45010530
The thing that rustles my jimmies the most about that meme is that everyone disregard what brought the duel in the first place.

>furfag Russ is immature that gets mad over Lion KSing him

DA and SW fought in several engagements before that battle and on several occasions De Lion abandoned Russ' side and opened his flanks, witch resulted in tremendous casualties for he SW. Stealing his kill was only the lastest irritant.

>Russ glass jaw can't handle a little punch in the face.

They had been literally fighting for a day and a night (or is it days and nights?) when Russ not that faglord De Lion stopped the fight when he saw how stupid and meaningless it was. Then Lion KOed him in the most dishonourable way.

>>45011331
This anon is so mad he has obviously been corrupted by Khorne

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Stolen from the 40k general, the average space wolf:

>>45011461
>DA and SW fought in several engagements before that battle and on several occasions De Lion abandoned Russ' side and opened his flanks, witch resulted in tremendous casualties for he SW

so no different than the 40k DA? They have on countless times fucked their allies over.

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>>45010115
>Remember when Black Library novels expanded on the universe rather than retconning it? Pepperridge Farms remembers
I remember

>>45009682
To be fair, the Changeling is incredibly sneaky and crafty, to the point of being able to play pranks on the gods themselves on occasion.

That a bunch of skilled mortals has trouble ferreting him out is par for the course.

>>45011704
>so no different than the 40k DA?
My point exactly, the meme is getting old, and the fact that this thread keeps popping up every day makes it worse. Hopefully /tg/ gets tired of it once the wulfen get release.

>>45006633
I'm a Dark Angelsfag and not even I can admit we have it coming sometimes.

A better statement would be "they killed a large amount of specialist Daemon Hunters and doing so collaborated in damning entire worlds out of disregard for the needs of the greater Imperium."

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>>45011704
>several engagements

I'm going to ask for a source on that.

Not that I doubt it, in fact I hope it's correct. Fuck the furfags.

>>45012212
>Send changeling to random worlds
>Send GK a tip that its there
>Have it leave before they show up
>Wait until they murder everyone out of paranoia
>Repeat

>>45011397
He wasnt trying to apologies, he was laughing after treasonous attacking another primarch and forcing a three day fight. I know wolf fans like making shit up but please...

The delays in armies alone because of his selfish need to try to macho his fellow primarch are worth noting as well, and then he has the gall to laugh. Imagine the fact that two legion fleets were delayed for three whole days because of Russ's idiocy. All the while the Lion, the actually competent strategist, is keeping track of how behind schedule he now is.

Bitch got slapped and he deserved every moment of it.

>>45011704
What you call "abandoned Russ' side" was the Lion winning the goddamn war lol.

>>45011461
>Then Lion KOed him in the most dishonourable way...

And russ just running up and assaulting another primarch like a savage wasn't dishonorable?

>>45006407
That is not my Awooo~chan.