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How does this image make you feel /tg/?
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>>44955130
Horny.
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It makes me want to burn Prospero.
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Like a very persistent idiot or 12 have shit posted russ again.
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>>44955152
>not wanting to always burn Prospero
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>>44955130

>How does this image make you feel /tg/?

Censured.

Please spoil that image I need to lie down for a bit and clutch my grimoire for comfort.
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>>44955130
Annoyed as shit that you post the same fucking thread almost every godamn day.
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>>44955130

Tired.

i just want the shitposting to end, or at least shift to something new.
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>>44955237
>>44955242
Not gonna happen. I'm spreading the word of the most loyal Primarch.
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>>44955130
Bored
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>>44955254
If you think Leman 'The Yiff Master Extreme' is the most Loyal Primarch, than you are retarded.
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>>44955301
Now without being an edgy memelord explain in English how Leman Russ isn't the most loyal Primarch
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>>44955130
Proud to serve the will of the Emperor
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>>44955130
HUGE.
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>>44955313

Because he isn't dorn.
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>>44955313
Well for one Sanguinius exists.

Two, after they burned the Thousand Suns he said he'd not listen to the Emperor anymore

Three, he never once questioned anything that the Emperor or Horus told him. You might think this is a good thing. It is not.
This led to the Burning of the The Thousend sons, which led to them actually joining Horus, which led to the deaths of trillions upon trillions upon trillions of people.
Had Russ stopped for one moment and said 'maybe I should double check with the Big E before I go and kill my brother.' than not only would this have prevented the massacre at Isstvan, since the Emperor would realized, 'hey, Horus might be up to some bad shit, telling Russ to kill Magnus like that'
But it would also mean that Horus would be down one less legion on his side, and possibly have led to a totally different outcome of the Horus Heresy as a whole.

So, in summery
Russ is an overly obedient lap dog.
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>>44955468
>'maybe I should double check with the Big E before I go and kill my brother.'
it's obvious you've never served in the military because you DO NOT question an order while in a state of war. This has been an axiom since the beginning of time. Questioning a direct order is punishable by death and always has been

either way your point is moot because Fagnus and the Transsexual Sons deserved what they got.
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>>44955530
No, they really didn't.
Magnus fucked up. Bad.
But he could have been much more useful alive than a fucking tratior.
Also, like I said, during the Heresy, Russ said 'fuck the Emperor, imma do my own thing.'
Pic fucking related.

Also, Russ is a godamn Primarch, if any person, anywhere, in all of space in time and in human history, should double check their orders, its them. Because the the fate of the entire human race rests on them.
But Russ is to stupid to do something logical like that.

I'm no longer going to bump this thread. Out.
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>>44955130
That it is turning into some shitty meme because people are spamming it.
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>>44955613
>should double check their orders
you don't fucking do that you dip. ever. at all.
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>>44955613
>unwittingly battling Alpharius himself who was disguised as one of his Lernaean bodyguards
Jesus fucking Christ. This is the guy Abnett expects everyone to accept as the Emperor's own executioner? He couldn't beat the Lion in a three-day fight, he only beat Magnus because Magnus wanted to lose, and he couldn't even kill the dude whose only trait is that he has a backup? Jesus.
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>>44955613
Dark angels to the rescue once again.
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>>44955468
>Well for one Sanguinius exists.
Sanguinius is hiding the red thirst from the Big E for fear of censure. That ain't a lot of loyalty.
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>>44955705
Looks like the picked the winning side yet again. Face it, the Dark Angels are the Lannisters of the space marine legions
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>>44955741
Are you calling me a hothead? I like the DA.
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>>44955130
Enraged
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>>44955130
Unimpressed
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>>44955130
which warcraft character is that?
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>>44956146
new mythic raid set
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>>44956146
Glad you could make it, Uther.
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>>44956381
>>44956381
so which primarch is arthas closest to?
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>>44955130
Bad for actual viking/norse history.
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>>44955741
Nah nig. Loyalty is it's own reward, not special snowflake status or an edgy title.
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>>44955130
It brings to mind all the loser metal head virgins who play space wolves.
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>>44955130
Like warm apple pie
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>>44955313
He didn't tell off Chaos twice, nor did he have nothing he wanted more than serving the Emperor. That was the Lion.

He didn't walk to his death, knowing full well that he stood no chance of winning but his sacrifice would guarantee the Emperor's victory over Horus. That was Sanguinius.

He didn't disagree with the Emperor on fundamental matters yet still fought in his name. That was Jaghatai Khan.

He wasn't charged with setting aside chasing glory across the void and fortifying the Imperial Palace against an inevitable attack upon Terra, that was Rogal Dorn.

All Russ did was boast about being an "Executioner" who never succeeded at any of his duites, self-imposed or otherwise. He was only loyal because the Emperor enabled his retardation.

>>44955741
Every side the First Legion is on is the winning side, something a dog fucker who can't cope with the concept of duty wouldn't understand.
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>>44955171
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>2016
>unironically liking Leman "Wolf-fucker" Russ
gg fuccbois
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>>44955667
>>Implying the Great Crusade had a similar command structure to current day.

>Laughing.jpeg
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>>44955696
Fucking this^
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>>44955734
It's a lack of trust, perhaps. But he was definitely loyal. He hid his problems because he did not wish to be rendered unable to continue his faithful service to the Emperor.
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>>44956395
Fulgrim. Grows increasingly obsessed with an objective dear to him and then acquires a cursed sword which steals his soul.
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>>44955130
Tired of pinhead action figure looking giant shoulder design
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>>44955468
>Three, he never once questioned anything that the Emperor or Horus told him.
Why would he? Horus was the Emperor's Warmaster and Russ' superior officer, he did what he had to do.
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>>44955696
>He couldn't beat the Lion in a three-day fight
You realize Lion won because Russ stopped fighting and start laughing at the stupidity of such fight. Lion punched him out of spite because he felt hurt that Russ was laughing.
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>>44955613
So Angron was actually right.

The dog-diddler really was only "loyal" because Daddy E was telling him to do stuff he liked doing.

Or at least didn't dislike very much.
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>>44960123
>attack brother in infantile tantrum
>oh shit, can't win
>quick, stop fighting and start laughing and pretend it was all a joke
>get knocked the fuck out because Lion is sick of Dog-boys retardation
>whine about it for centuries
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>>44955130
Thirsty for wolf cock.
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>>44955130
Its makes me want to go to Fenris a couple millennial later to fuck the Space furries gene-seeds.
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>>44955130
Annoyed that autists are allowed to use the internet
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>>44960129
Yes, Angron was perfectly right
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>>44962829
As always.
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>>44960582
Good I've found another shard....(absorbs)
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>>44960179
>When you have to make up headcanons to support your arguement
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>>44960582
Did absolutely nothing wrong.
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>>44963719
that's exactly what happened though. russ picked a fight with lion because he was upset that the dark angels showed up the space yiffs, he proceeds to get his ass handed to him and starts to laugh to lighten the mood and lion knocks him out.

be a bitch get treated like a bitch.
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>>44960123
>You realize Lion won because Russ stopped fighting
How Lion won is beside the point. The point is that in a 3-day fight Russ couldn't win at all.
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>>44955696
When did he fight Alpharius?
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>>44959394
they were both stupidly sexy too
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>>44955178
>Breaking the codex astartes by using two bolters
>Not heresy
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>>44964685
Image in >>44955613 reference is the Wolf's Claw audio drama
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>>44955468
>Had Russ stopped for one moment and said 'maybe I should double check with the Big E before I go and kill my brother

Thousand Son defenders always bring this up by why Russ do this. Why would any Primarch sent to capture Magnus, save for maybe Sanguinus or Jhagatai do this? The Emperors original decree was that if Magnus broke the edict of the Council of Nicaea his Legion would be destroyed and struck from Imperial Records. Why would he waste time recontacting the Emperor, who was no longer concerned with matters of military, when his Warmaster gave him a new order that was perfectly in line with the Emperor's edict. Why would he give Magnus, the warp obsessed radical whose practices had been condemned and warned about over and over, the benefit of a doubt over his favored brother who has proven his loyalty a hundred times over?
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>>44965505
The Emperors original orders were to bring Magus back to Terra to give him a firm talking to
But Horus changed the Orders to get Russ to kill The Thousand Suns
Because Horus knew it would get Magus to join the him in the Heresy
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>>44965642
Joke's on Horus then, as the 1K Sons did absolutely fuck all.
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>>44965642
>to give him a firm talking to
He was going to face trial, be found guilty, because how the fuck is Magnus going to explain that Horus is a traitor when he learned that from using sorcery he was forbidden from using, and then probably executed. Magnus had gotten several firm talking to already over the course of the past century that last being "Use sorcery again and you die".

Magnus had his fate sealed his fate the moment he got his vision. The Emperor could have not sent Russ at all and Magnus would have been fucked.
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>>44955130
It makes me proud be a World Eaters player
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>>44965752
Neh, the Empra needed Magnus to sit in that golden chair of his. He was too valuable to just execute. Better for him to redeem himself by sitting there forever while the Emperor does other things.
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>>44963914
>lion steals his kill even though agreement
>call him out on it, lion is a total dick about it
>realize their fight is totally pointless, start lauging
>lion sucker-punches him
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>>44965850
Also there is the fact the the Emperor is the most powerful Pysker fucking ever
All he'd have to do is probe Magnus' mind to see the truth.
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>>44965850
Oh, right, so I guess this all leads back to this being the Emperors fault for not explaining himself to his generals/sons.
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>>44965828
You gotta respect Angron. He knows the Emperor is full of shit, he happily admits he's a brain-damaged maniac, he knows everything he does is evil and awful, and he just rolls with it. He's utterly unpretentious.
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>>44965900
Oh yeah, probe a Tzeencthian addled mind for the truth. That's totally effective. It doesn't matter that Magnus believed his vision was true. It's nature as a revelation from Tzeencth makes it completely untrustworthy.
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>>44955130
Why are his legs so big?
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>>44966023
Russ never skips leg day,
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>>44966045
EVERY DAY IS LEG DAY
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>>44966023
maybe he's just happy to see you
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>>44965871
The big questions that need answering

Who threw the first punch?
Who threw the last punch?
Who cried about it?
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>>44967367
Russ
Lion
Both of them.
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Leh-man?

Lee-man?

Lee-mon?

Leh-mon?

Leh-man?

Roos?

Ruhss?
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>>44967424
So by that they are both a bit whiny.

The difference being one starts shit he can't finish.
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>>44955254
Do you really think people like you? Like, in real life? Do you bring this shit up just to argue with people about how much better Space Wolves are than Thousand Sons? No one cares. It's all made up. Somebody came up with the idea and wrote it into the setting and that's why they're that way. Not because they're better and you're better for liking them, because somebody simply decided it. And now your whole life revolves around a fictitious 10-foot-tall man that fought his brother
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>>44955734
WolfyWolf is hiding the Wolfblood that makes his Wolfmarines turn into savage Wolfmen
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>>44967595
Gottem
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>>44967536
>Can't finish
Russ didn't "Give up" you squeeb. Both brothers were exhausted and had continual breaks during their fight. Russ was laughing and clearly about to say something during one of these when Lion punched him in the face because the sound of laughter hurts his feelings.

It was dishonorable. Lion knew it was dishonorable and felt like a dumbass for losing his temper because someone laughed during a fight. Russ didn't understand why Lion did it and thought he was just a dishonorable person.
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>>44955667
He's not a line jarhead
He's a fucking primarch a general
There's a reason officers have more training than just boot camp
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>>44967634
The Canis Helix was part of Russ' DNA before he was abducted by Chaos. He didn't hide it and had a company dedicated to containing those lost to their feral nature. Sanguinus hid his red thirst because it was the direct result of his abduction and a taint of Chaos.
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>>44967755
So the summery is

>Dog-boy starts fight
>Dog-boy gets knocked out
>Dog-boy gets salty
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>>44955130
makes me want 14 injections in my belly
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>>44967952
No yo cock mongler, its
>Gay Poet Steals kill
>Dog-boy starts fight
>Gay Poet Sucker punches brother
>Dog-boy gets knocked out
>Gay Poet gets salty
>Dog-boy gets salty
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>>44968036
So the only change is the addition of more sodium.

Russ still started shit he couldn't finish.
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>>44968098
What part of getting knocked out by a sucker punch implies that the fight wasn't totally up in the air and that either brother could have won?
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>>44967454
Leeman Ruhss (but Roose in my head, like the Russ vikings)
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so why did they name the lehman russ after this faggot instead of vulkan or ferrus manus?
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>>44955468
>Well for one Sanguinius exists.
That's cheating, Sangüinius overshadows every other primarch hands down and without effort.
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>>44955530
It's obvious you have never been ordered to kill your brother.
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>>44970241
>Magnus and Russ.
>Considering each other brother.
Wat.
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>>44966023
Child-bearing hips.
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>>44969847
Ultramarines, Space Wolves, Blood Angels and Dark Angels were really the first legions to start getting coherent backstory as 40k lore shaped up into something cohesive. There was even a line (I wish I had the picture of the old codex, maybe someone else has it) that those four chapters were the most crucial to the Imperium's survival. Lore for everyone else filtered in over time.
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>>44970355
Don't have to like each other, don't like my sister still decorated her house when she got preggers.
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>>44968255
>>44968036
>>44967755
He's op you fool, he's fucking with you.
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>>44965828
>>44963184
>>44962829
>>44960129
I would take this arguments serious if they didn't came from the manlet irrelevant primarch.

>remember that thing Angron did and have lasted more than 3 centuries?
>nope

>Lorgar left a poisoned sun in calth
>some of the planets Mortarion visited are still dealing with zombie plagues and more deaeases
>Fulgrim fell roboute and the strongest primarch Ferrus
>Alpharius poisoned forever raven guard gene seed
>perturabo left thousands of chaos strongholds across the imperium
>magnus is a fag but at least he opened a warprift on Terra
Angron or the world eaters for that matter.........nothing? Even his monolith is probably already looted by the orks that inhabit the jungles or Armageddon.
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>>44967755
>Both brothers were exhausted and had continual breaks during their fight

Don't invent details to make Lion look bad. They weren't having constant breaks and Russ happened to laugh during one of them. They're Primarchs, they don't need breaks, and the story is that they literally fought non-stop day and night until Russ realized how stupid the fight was and started laughing, so Lion dropped him for being a cunt and cheap-shotting him in the first place.

You're going to have to accept that the story as it actually is paints Russ as a manchild who endangered his own men because someone hurt his feelings, blamed brother for his own fuck-up and got rightfully decked in the end.
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>>44971562
>the Lion and Russ fight
>neither of them can overcome the other
>Russ realise the idiocy of their fight and begin to laugh
>the Lion believes he is laughing at him and sucker punch Russ
They both are manchildren anon, that's the whole point of the story
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>>44971934
Meant to
>>44971562
>>44971694

But why erase and put the same shit twice?
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>>44971421
That isn't rowboat in stasis but Alpharius and the entire smurfs legion and it's successors, yeah HYDRA DOMINATUS BROTHER.

They we're the black ops legion what did you expect, that there were only 2 lost primarchs.
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>>44972429
Wasn't he fell when he fought Fulgrim?
That when the dust set Fulgrim was gone and Guilliman's throat was slit?
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>>44971934
The point of the story is to provide a reason for the Dark Angels and Space Wolves to have a rivalry.

They both come across badly so their respective Codices can give a one-sided account of it.

The fact that Lion ended up looking a lot more capable than Russ is just keeping things accurate to the characters.

>>44972010
Linked to the wrong post.
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>>44972517 but was that alpharus omegon or one of the entire legion of lookalikes.
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>>44972565
>The point of the story is to provide a reason for the Dark Angels and Space Wolves to have a rivalry.
>They both come across badly so their respective Codices can give a one-sided account of it.
>The fact that Lion ended up looking a lot more capable than Russ is just keeping things accurate to the characters.
This is why I'm a Sangüinius fag, that's bullshit on both accounts, they're both hiper sensible man children with nothing but nuh uh my primarch is better, step up Lion and Russ fags.
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>>44957203
>>All Russ did was boast about being an "Executioner" who never succeeded at any of his duites

yo man i think there are two other primarchs who will be mighty glad to hear that
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>>44972784
Sanginius is cool mostly because his chapter looks up to him like Jesus in the 42nd millenium. I don't think any other chapter has such a strong relationship with their primarch.
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>>44972784
Well Lion is alive, so that's one thing he has over Sanguinius.
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>>44972640
>but was that alpharus omegon or one of the entire legion of lookalikes.
THRONE DAMM IT
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>>44972517
>>44972640
>>44973072

actuallyyou are all wrong, Guilliman is dead and the guy in stasis is Omegon dressed up in Guillimans armor
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>>44973007
>Well Lion is alive, so that's one thing he has over Sanguinius
>Well Lion was glass jawed by some non astartes/primarch 10 000 years ago, so that's one thing he has over Sangüinius.
Lion was so weak he couldn't give his live for his father.
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>>44973007
It's also the only thing he has over anybody, considering despite his tactical genius and seniority, he was an unlikable autist and he lost in a fight to an augmented human.

Then again all the primarchs suck if you look at them too hard, so maybe we shouldn't be arguing over them anyway, especially as all the HH books don't work together well and are pretty shit sometimes.
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>>44973486
Fulgrim doesn't suck. Well he does but not in the way you mean. Best Traitor.
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>>44973007
How is that a good thing over Sanguinus? Lions the one Primarch who isn't doing, or Died doing something for the Imperium. He just decided to take a nap as the Imperium went to shit. I don't even think he told anyone, only the Watchers in the Dark actually know he's still in the Rock.
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>>44973715
Well it's not like he decided to take a nap. Luther knocked him out and so far he hasn't woken up.

Though it does make you wonder how the Dark Angels would react to finding out their primarch was alive and under their feet the whole time.
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>>44973225
He was hit by a Chaos-buffed psychic blast of sheer frustration. That's what killed the Emperor, and Lion has just slept it off.

>>44973486
Well clearly he's better than Sangy at fighting Primarchs. He's done it loads of times and won, but Sanguinius has only done it once...

>>44973715
>Lions the one Primarch who isn't doing, or Died doing something for the Imperium.

Corax and Russ fled into the Eye of Terror. I don't see how desertion and suicide helps the Imperium.

In any case, Lion is the one loyal Primarch who can definitely be said to be doing anything, even if it is just sleeping. All the rest are either dead or presumed dead. So in a way, this is all academic. Lion is the best by default, as all the others are no longer capable of competing.
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>>44973619
He haven't done shit since Guilliman wrecked his face with his powerfist.
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>>44974380
>That's what killed the Emperor,
>by a primarch
>a primarch better than the Lion
>with full sponsorship of the big four

Vs

>Some schmuk that wasn't as empowered as Horus, nor a single daemon prince and just a mere fragment of the power of chaos.

Meanwhile Sangüinius battle the strongest bloodthirster there is lost but then returned and broke it's back on his knee, Lion is a small fry shit.
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>>44974576
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>>44974576
The Lion is the Angron of the loyalists nothing he did mattered of left something of benefit to speak for him and just spawned a lot of backstabbing assholes.
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>>44974627
Prove me wrong instead if posting your dank memes
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>>44974715
>not liking backstabbing assholes
do you even alpharius?
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>>44974745
I came here to laugh at autism
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>>44955130
i feel nothing but a sour taste of dissapointment in modern 40k art.

blanche was much more evocative
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>>44974382
When did that happen? Fulgrim just shanked Gulliman like it wasn't no thang and then slithered back to his planet of hookers and blow.
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>>44972955
non confirmed rumor mongering...

At best it would be killing two primarchs without legions backing them... nothing impressive at all
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>>44972955
>implying that was Russ
>implying it wasn't the Ghost Legion doing the Emperor's dirty work
>implying they didn't modify records to make it look like the Wolves were responsible to cover their tracks
>implying Russ didn't figure he must've forgot about it during a bad hangover and took credit
>implying the 30k wolves even keep their own records to double-check anyway and don't just rely on old guys retelling stories
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>>44975309
well that explains a lot
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>>44975309
>implying that was Russ

kinda got the impression that was exactly what they were doing, desu 40k lore is so fucked up the ass nothing fits with anything
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>>44955130
Obliged
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>>44955130
Like someone should take the dog outside.

And I'm not talking about the Fenrisian wolves.
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Glad to see my drunken shitpost from last night is still going strong. You autistic spergs never fail to disappoint
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>>44971421
You seem to have missed the point that Angron was utterly apathetic and insane. He didn't care about his own life, he didn't care about anyone else's lives, he didn't care about the universe... All he did was murder people because the hardware in his brain was wired to make that the only thing in life that was even remotely pleasurable. Why do you even expect such a person to leave anything behind?
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>>44981834
Truly Angron was the worst thing that happened to the world eaters.

Rescuing Angron was a mistake.
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>>44982070
So was giving Curse a Legion.

So was not putting aside a weekend to explain shit to Magnus and Logar.

So was getting Perty to become a warlord rather than a reformer of the mechanicus.
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Why did Corax leave for the eye? Doesnt make sense.
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>>44982139
No, he has a point. In almost every case, a Legion would have been a lot better without their primarch, or have continued to function normally. The Legions themselves were never a problem - their Primarchs just had so many flaws and made so many bad decisions, it fucked them over.

The Emperor's Heralds would've continued to be happily trying to purge heresy from other cultures, and wouldn't have had an organized worship of the Emperor to gather around, and later be corrupted from.

The Death Guard would've continued to footslog.

The Night Lords would've been brutal butchers and shock troops, but they wouldn't have been tainted by their primarch's despair over the state of the universe or become a bunch of criminals turned supersoldiers, with all the flaws thereof.

The Thousand Sons would've been mutated out of existance, it's actually good they got to Magnus.

The Dark Angels wouldn't have had anything happen to them, or go crazy from grief over the 'death' of their primarch and vow to hunt heretics.

The Luna Wolves would've never begun to follow their primarch over the Emperor.

The World Eaters would've been brutal warriors, but they wouldn't have had nails slammed into their head so they could never be anything but that.

The Iron Hands would've never gone crazy over replacing their flesh with metal and just have been generic footsloggers.

The Raven Guard would've been more in line with the Night Lords, but they wouldn't have been bad. If anything, they could've come around to something more like Corax's thinking on their own given time.
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>>44982350
best thing to do would have been to knock the primarchs out as soon as possible after meeting them and put them into some manner of permanent cryo-sleep back in the lab with the gellar field to be harvested for gene-samples to keep the legions running.
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>>44982303
he was sad because he fucked up

with the new HH retcons I guess he was sad because he didn't fuck up ?
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>>44955130
Amused. The proportions are crazy.
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>>44982350
The world eaters pre Angron were called the war hounds and were notable for there brotherhood and loyalty to each other, probably the best legion before they got crazy nailed directly in to there brains.
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>>44972955
>he thinks the two lost Legions had anything to do with Russ

Russ never killed them off, it was bullshit he spewed to make himself look tuff.
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