Sup /tg/, odd request. A friend has this tattoo in Tolkien elvish on her neck, and made the bet that the rest of us would never figure out what it says, claiming it took her hours of study to translate the phrase from English. You guys know your shit and you're the first resourse that came to mind, can anyone help?
It's Moon Goddess, alright, but she didn't have the sense to have it in Sindarin. Probably becasue 'goddess' does not appear in Sindarin and 'Ithilrhien' is too low ranking for her giant ego.
Decided to actually look it up and >>44935158
>>44935239 are correct.
What is this about "it took her hours of study to translate the phrase from English". It only took me 36 minutes. All I can say is >>44935109
You know, not true man.
I've never gotten a tattoo but I've been planning one for years now. It's supposed to represent the story of my life and my personality (in this case both the anima and the persona). I have divided my life in 16 eras and detailed the events then found suitables "stages" to depict in the tattoo, all of which I've handdrawn myself. I have also developed an order for the tattooing to occurs that goes in reverse chronological (with minor changes) to represent the return to the youth, the remembrances and the quest for immortality through memory.
Needless to say the entire thing consits purely of big black penises, totaling 267 total which will cover my whole torso.
I just barely mustered the strength not to waste a hundred words, only to call you a snob. But I will ask why tatoos can't be part of one culture, lest it be considered crude, yet perfectly okay for another culture.
Tattoos are a good indicator of poor impulse control, immaturity at time of tattooing and lower socioeconomic status. Humans mimic others in their peer groups. It isn't an absolute but rather a good rule of thumb. Well executed tattoos with cultural significance aren't the same as a jail house tat with a homemade tattoo gun and pen ink scrawled Darlene. There are many things which indicate lower Sochi economic status. But they are not absolutes. What are your thoughts on people with names like Porsche, Mercedes, etc..
Boy those diacritic marks are sloppy. I can't tell if those are U marks or O marks.
Anyway, assuming it's Quenya, we're looking at something like "Moon Ngwonndess".
Looks like badly translitterated english, since no Quenya word starts with Ungwe.
What gives, OP?
actually its a good signifier that you need to cease association with someone
it is a simple method of singling out the scum of society, their herd mentality and low capacity for higher thought processes drives them to brand themselves
What a stupid thing to tattoo onto yourself.
Feels like I'm 16 again.
It's really great to see people with this disease striving for a better life in spite of their perminately markings. Keep them covered at all times and start saving for laser removal. For every Inky that is making a solid mild class wage there are 5 in prison making tattoo guns out of pic pens and electric razor motors.
I employ 60+ people in light manufacturing and logistics contracting. All things being equal between candidates I would never hire someone with visible tattoos to a management or sales position.
>not supporting your local Moon Goddess
Do the words even make sense? As in, does Elvish in Tolkien have masculine/feminine/neuter endings that determine the gender, plurals and so on? I mean, in Greek for example, "Zeus" is singular (no plural because only one Zeus) and masculine (no feminine/neuter because Zeus is male).
Visible tattoo is a tattoo that is visible. Primarily I mean any tattoo above the collar, below the elbow. Same for piercings or any other body decor. Anyone who interacts with clients will have a professional, clean cut appearance as they are representing me and the company. So no wearing gloves to hide your hold fast knuckle tattoo.
You must hate milennials then.
A lot of companies seem to be loosening their tattoo policies right now. I wouldn't be surprised if it becomes more accepted in the next few decades.
That's why it's called "socioeconomic" and not just "economic", clodhopper. An individual of a low socioeconomic class can end up making money hand over fist by chance, but he's still a prole in heart and soul.
I don't hate anyone. Your fooling yourself though if you believe being heavily tattooed won't effect your professional opportunities in most industries. the wealthy decision making class is not tattooed.
Not that guy but I can confirm that I do in fact hate millennials.
Both the baby boomers and my generation did have tattoos. A few discrete ones, usually. And even those sucked in comparatively short order.
Here's the problem.
First, whatever picture you get won't be as clever as you think it is, and ten years from now will look hopelessly stupid and lame even to you. Do you think all those girls with tramp stamps, tribal symbols, and barbed wire rings around their arms are still celebrating how timeless and unique they are?
Second, a tattoo will never make someone more attractive than they are. Sometimes they won't become less attractive (at first) but at best it's neutral. In the vast majority of cases, it makes someone look uglier. There's nothing like taking a beautiful girl and scribbling all over her.
Third, what if you screw up? What if the art is poorly drawn? Both of those are true in this case. The quenya translation is wrong, the mythos is wrong, and the art is poorly drawn, too. All we know is that she cares enough about Tolkien to engrave her body with it permanently, but not enough to study it up. Britney Spears fucked up this way; she got a tattoo of what she thought was the Japanese character for unique; but due to a translation error, it just said "strange".
Fourth, people age. A tattoo often looks ugly from day one, but as the years roll by it starts to get stretched and faded. Nothing highlights sags, wrinkles, and weight gain like an old shitty tattoo.
Most girls are going to be attractive in their teens. That's just biology. Usually in their 20's too, with only a modicum of diet and exercise. By your 50's, unless you struggle mightily and have incredible genes, your days as a hottie are over. The fight is for your 30's and 40's, and tattoos highlight age like nothing I've ever seen. I can't even tell you how many girls I knew who got tatted up in the 1990s and now look like frumpy old whores.
I should stress that 80% of this applies to men, too.
The thing is, people used to get tattoos because it made them feel unique. Now the do it to fit in. Why go through all that just to be yet another inked up hipster? Who really looks at them, other than to say "he's covered in tats".
If you're smart, you'll avoid tattoos altogether. If you have to, then get something discrete that you can easily cover up.
Girls, if you get a tattoo on the back of your neck or the small of your back, you should be prepared to put out a lot of anal sex over the rest of your life, because I promise you you'll never be able to convince your husbands that you haven't at least tried it and then they'll want it, too.
To anons who think this isn't a social cue of high vs low socioeconomic status, i ask: where are all the kids of politicians and corporate execs who are covered in tattoos? Why is this stuff mostly coming out of urban culture and trailer parks? I'm willing to judge the person on their own merits but you can't deny that a tattoo is indicative of SOMETHING.
After all, saying something to everyone who looks at you is the whole point of getting a tattoo in the first place. You can't very well go around making loud declarations via fashion statements and then get all offended when people listen to them. Or rather you CAN do that but then you're an idiot.
The words don't make sense.
She didn't use the Quenya words for "moon" and "god", but just wrote "moon goddess" in english using a different writing system.
And this is what took her "hours of research" to do.
If she wanted to write "moon goddess" in REAL Quenya, she shoud've written "Vala Isillion", or "Valie Isillion" if she wanted ot to stress the female aspect.
or use "Maia" instead of "Vala" since there isn't a generic word for "god" in Quenya: you have to be precise about whether you're talking about a Vala, a Maia, or Iluvatar.
Or you could use "Fana" if you're talking about the Pure Raiment, the body-shape that houses the soul of a divine being. That's not the being itself, though, but just the form it "wears" to interact with non-spiritual beings.
...Or, you know, just use "Tilion". You know, the Maia that drives the Moon across the sky? The MALE Maia that drives the Moon across the sky.
Christ. It's like they don't even make kids read the Silmarillion anymore.
Does your family crest have a proper blazon? Is it properly sourced? Does it respect the Rule of Tincture? (unless they're Arms of Enquiry I guess, but only tryhards, edgelords and the Kingdom of Jerusalem go full Enquiry) Is the latin real, actual latin or just crappy late-medieval fake latin? I bet your arms aren't even canting.
Unlike the rest of the thread, I don't really care what people tattoo on their bodies. It's their skin, they can do whatever the fuck they want with it. None of my business.
But sloppy bullshit pisses me off. If you want elven, make it proper quenya, not an english word written in tengwar. If you want a coat of arms, make it a real coat of arms, and not some Game of Thrones level unblazonable piece of shit. etc.
Just my two cents.
So, what's your crest and motto? Maybe I'm still in time to save you from embarrassment.
>"She-Who-Likes-Dwarf-Butts-And-Who-Is-Incapable-Of-Lying of the House Siblings-That-Cannot-Deny-That-When-They-See-Dwarf-Butts-It-Arouses-Their-Elven-Ardour"
This is basically the quenya equivalent of getting "white piggu" in kanji written on you when you ask the tattoo artist to put the symbols for love in Chinese.
>poor impulse control
I see what you did there.
>Christ. It's like they don't even make kids read the Silmarillion anymore.
I'm only 19 and I could see the education system collapsing around me though all of high school
And it just keeps getting worse
Among Japanese hunters, the boar's courage and defiance is a source of admiration, and it is not uncommon for hunters and mountain people to name their sons after the animal 猪
Best takedown yet.
Yeah what gets me isn't that her Quenya isn't perfect or that she didn't know it beforehand. It's that A) she thought it was some impenetrable mystery (there are people who speak and read quenya conversationally), and B) that she didn't bother doing enough research to get a decent translation.
When the last generation wanted to do something like this, we'd had to go to the library and do ILL requests to get dusty old tomes. Then send away to the Tolkien ConLang journals and order back issues. Then laboriously, painstakingly reconstruct it.
She whips up some grammatically and mythologically incorrect crap, can't be bothered to check it, and then gets it badly scribed on her back. Permanently.
Why not just have it read "I am so litterate!" instead?
>Tattoos are the pitiable self identifier of low class status and poor impulse control.
>Tattoos are a good indicator of poor impulse control, immaturity at time of tattooing and lower socioeconomic status.
At least it's nice to see you're not just parroting the same old shit. When your argument is basically just a single soundbite coupled with a link to a wikipedia page for 'I know it when I see it' (which I'm not entirely sure you understand incidentally as there are pretty clearly defined parameters for what we're talking about) it marks you out as a bit of a cretin.
I don't particularly like tattoos either but you're an idiot.
This. Thank you.
I'm not a crestfag, but I do not understand how someone can care enough about something to pay for and sit through a tattoo but not spend ten minutes reading a Wikipedia page on the topic.
And why? It's never something that matters, never a case where you're expected to know something you actually don't, so you have to fake it. It's always pretentious bullshit like mystical signs, or foreign characters, or Latin, or fucking Quenya.
I love pretentious bullshit, don't get me wrong. But if you're going to go out of your way to call attention to yourself, try not to piss your pants once everyone is looking.
>Needless to say
Well played, sir. You had me hook, line and sinker.
There was a guy I went to school with who had his name tatooed in big letters across his shoulders.
In fairness to him the dumb bastard would probably need to refer to it now and again if he lost his ID.
Many, many families do. It's not common in America and even more rarely remembered even when you have one, but it's not exactly rare.
The sun was created by the Valar to house the last fruit of Laurelin. Simultaneously, the Noldor of Fingolfin arrived across the Grinding Ice to attack Morgoth. Also, Men were created at the same moment in the East by Illuvatar Himself, unknown to the Valar.
Many Grey Elves believed that the rising of the Sun showed that the Noldor had the blessing of the Valar-- but both were consequences of the poisoning of the Two Trees and were otherwise unrelated to one another. What Illuvatar's purpose was in timing the creation of Men to that same fateful moment is unknown, but it was in the far East and so nobody even knew it happened until much later.
Tried hammering a few words in it and what it outputs isn't a translation but a transliteration, and a wrong one on top of that (tried typing "Arda", got the tengwar for "Randa").
I am a crestfag. If anyone really wants to, i can spend a few minutes listening to your blazons and check if they're idiotic or if they work.
In my mind, it's amazing to delve into pretentious bullshit.
No one in your daily life will probably be able to read Quenya. No one will know how to blazon arms properly. I'm writing a prop alchemy book based on hermeticism for a LARP. No one will read it and complain if my references don't check out or if my latin or hebrew are crap.
When you do this sort of thing, you do them for yourself first and foremost. Which is why you should do them right.
Other people might not ever notice that your pseudomystical crap is wrong, and they probably won't care, but you should. Because you're really the only one who cares, aren't you?
And if you don't care about it either, then who the fuck will?
Spoiler: Quenya doesn't have words starting with "G". The next best thing is "ngw" as a single letter, which just sounds weird as a replacement for english g.
"Re a fgnwa"
Someone once gave Tolkien a coffee mug with the One Ring script engraved on it. He accepted it politely but in later years wrote "why would I ever want to drink from a vessel engraved with something so foul and evil?"
When her meth dealer slash live-in boyfriend Slade drunkenly points it out to them while she's passed out in a pool of her own vomit.
I do have to admit, there's a tattoo that proclaims in no uncertain terms what kind of woman we're dealing with here.
SO, whats so wrong with transliteration? Considering its not really a language so much as a script written up for a book series, isnt it that much easier to use in transliteration than to learn a fake language?
You sound like a star trek dork demanding I pronounce Klingon in proper enunciation.
Tolkien put enough work into his languages that they can actually be treated as semi-languages, not just random script or transliterated English. As I recall, Sindarin uses a lot of Finnish as its basis in terms of grammatical syntax, but it's been a long time and I could well be wrong.
Depends on the title of nobility. Some are inherited, and some are not. The laws are surprisingly complicated, even for something as seemingly simple as a knighthood.
As the system became more symbolic, the ritual and protocol aspects solidified what was once a very practical and fluid element of government and the military.
>You sound like a star trek dork demanding I pronounce Klingon in proper enunciation.
I, a completely random anon, didn't say shit about it beyond "that's what it is."
Also, on an aside, the text looks so much fucking better than the actual tattoo. She really did fuck the smallest amount of work she could've put into an artistic act in the ass.
>Someone once gave Tolkien a coffee mug with the One Ring script engraved on it. He accepted it politely but in later years wrote "why would I ever want to drink from a vessel engraved with something so foul and evil?"
Didn't he use it as a ashtray?
Elvish is absolutely a language, not just a script.
If you want to say that "you wrote something in elvish", then it should be REALLY in elvish (translated). Otherwise, just say "it's written in tengwar". (translitterated).
What I'm saying is, if you're getting a tattoo in tengwar, you might as well go the extra mile and get it in actual Quenya.
Because the kind of people who are likely to CARE about your tattoo are also the kind of people who might notice it's crappy.
>tramp stamps, tribal tattoos, etc
Ill give you that the vast majority of people who get these kind shouldve thought about it a lot more and are likely trying to fit in but I wouldnt lump everyone with a tattoo into this.
>tattoos tend to make people uglier
Purely subjective and should not be spouted like fact. Personally, I think women with stuff like full sleeves or nice pieces in other parts are more attractive in general. Sometimes it was a bad canvas to begin with though.
>could get meased up
Thats a risk you take and sometimes the imperfections are what give it personality. As for getting things tattooed on you in a different language its the persons fault if they dont study up on it enough to know for sure what it means, so Im with you on that one.
>tattoo looks ugly from day one
Again, purely subjective and shouldnt be stated as fact.
>people age and tattooes look worse
This is something a lot of people dont think about but it is the truth. However, Ive seen some old biker looking dudes with tats and while they were faded and wrinkly they still told a story, both to people who saw it and to him. Even old, faded, and wrinkly tattooes can have significance.
Cont from >>44937864
Most of this is subjective too but, a few points. The whole a tattooed a girl is a slut is a stereotype, and while all stereotypes have some truth, that doesnt necessitate that every person who meets the prereqs acts that way. Ill concede that some people, potentially even a majority of half, will get tattoos with little meaning to fit in. However, you notice these people more because they tend to get the tattoos in immediately visible places whereas people who get them cause they mean something usually keep them diacrete.
>theyre indicative of something
Agreed, but what that thing is is different for everyone. Clearly for you its of low socio-economic status, poor decision making, and ugliness. But that doesnt mean everyone else sees the same.
>saying something to everyone is the point of tattoos
Again, not for everyone. I have two tattoos and I got them cause I like the way they look and, more importantly, they mean something to me as a person and remind me of what shaped me.
Am I advocating that every tattoo is special and amazing? No, but a large portion, even majority, look good and are important to the person. And thats my opinion, which I wont state as fact.
>Tolkien put enough work into his languages that they can actually be treated as semi-languages
From what I read, which was on wikipedia so it could be wrong, he actually intentionally didn't create an extensive enough vocabulary for the languages to be used conversationally. Much of the vocabulary that exists today was created by fans based on what Tolkien had written.
>What are your thoughts on people with names like Porsche, Mercedes, etc..
Technically, all those brand names were people names first, since the companies and brands were named after founders.
No. Sauron forged only one ring.
The Elves of Eregion forged sixteen Rings of Power which were later stolen by Sauron and then given to his servants and people he wanted to corrupt.
They forged three more that Sauron never got his hands on and had had no hand in forging. Though the knowledge that the elven-smiths used came in part from Sauron. When Sauron first created and put on his Ruling Ring, the elves sensed it and immediately took their Rings off to evade his power. Eregion was destroyed in an attempt by Sauron to get hold of the Elven rings, and since the kingdom had been helped in part by their three Rings, all the good they had done turned to Sauron's advantage even though the rings themselves were inactive. The Elves hid the Three and kept them safe for millennia, until Sauron was finally destroyed by Isildur. Then they used the rings, cautiously, but also knowing that doing so doomed their kingdoms if Sauron ever rose again and got his One Ring back.
That's what's so insidious about the One Ring. It didn't just mind-control people wearing the other Rings. It made the wearer of the One Ring the master of everything that any of the Rings had ever accomplished. It was more about controlling Fate than being an elaborate Charm spell.
So that's twenty Rings of Power total, plus innumerable minor but still potentially perilous other Rings. One made by Sauron, nineteen made by Elves, of which only three remained in their hands by the Third Age.
You're entitled to your opinion, but in my experience people who are tatted up DO have poor impulse control. It shows in other things like life decisions, academic achievement, drug habits, early out-of-wedlock pregnancies, unsafe sex practices, financial irresponsibility, etc.
A strong correlation doesn't mean that it's a perfect one:one relationship, but even a moderate correlation can be very useful for diagnostics.
Besides, it's a fashion statement. It's MEANT to provoke a reaction and give people an impression of the bearer. So fair's fair. You can't go around making statements but then when someone doesn't agree with them suddenly insist that people shouldn't make judgments about what you're saying.
In its zeal not to be "judgmental", we live in an age where people are embarrassed to exercise good judgment.
Elvish can't be used conversationally only because it lacks a lot of words that are in common use today.
You could write an epic poem or a ballad in it just off Tolkien's original vocabulary, but you couldn't write a modern day newspaper article. It doesn't have words for, like, "computer", "internet", "car", "airplane", country names, or the likes.
But the language is definitely evolved enough that just adding new words is enough to make it perfectly usable.
If you're gonna carve the Klingon language into your skin, you sure as hell better get the proper enunciation and syntax.
Otherwise you just look like a silly poser and one of those "fake geeks" girls always complain about being accused of...before going and doing something like this where they prove they have no idea what they're talking about
>lots of great points
>I'm not a crestfag, but I do not understand how someone can care enough about something to pay for and sit through a tattoo but not spend ten minutes reading a Wikipedia page on the topic.
I do. It's called "they have poor impulse control." Otherwise, they'd have put more research into getting it right, getting something different, or getting nothing at all.
It's absolutely beautiful, I agree. Someone else in thread said that that "translator" is making mistakes, but my quenya is rusty enough that I don't know for sure. You can't just rotate fonts, though, which is what most online transliterators do.
Tengwar of Feanor is surprisingly easy to learn and use. And Quenya isn't too difficult as languages go.
Because if you're going to write it using Tengwar with English, then use the Mode of English (which Tolkien did come up with) and actually transliterate it.
But then don't claim it's Quenya or Sindarin if it isn't.
I think so. Or for pencils. I don't recall. It's awkward because the gift was heartfelt.
He won't break it to her. Don't be silly. If she hangs out with lots of gamers, they will eventually all be in on it and laugh at her behind her back. Not because it's not a good idea (though IMO it isn't). Because it's so poorly thought out and executed and because she's so haughty about her own cleverness.
So what if it's subjective? It's still true. This isn't a court of law, I'm under no obligation to be objective or to put aside my personal tastes. Any social phenomenon is going to be subjective.
And as for "there are exceptions", well, ok of course there are exceptions. But speaking in general, what I'm saying is true.
It's true that there's not quite enough for conversation, but I don't think it was a design decision to prevent people from speaking it.
Jews faced the same problem when re-founding Israel. Jews all over the world spoke a plethora of local languages: arabic, english, german, polish, russian, french, etc. And several jewish creole languages, especially Yiddish, Ladino, and the modern variant of aramaic used by kurdish jews.
Even in the Roman era, Hebrew wasn't a spoken popular language. People used Greek or Aramaic, and even many religious writings were written in those languages.
What they settled on was taking Hebrew, which had been a language of scholarship and religious ritual for at least 2500 years, and converting it into a modern spoken vernacular.
This was incredibly controversial, but ultimately worked. Teams of scholars came up with hebrew words for modern concepts like car, laser and heteroskedasticity, but hewed as closely to biblical Hebrew as possible. That's why spoken Hebrew is so close to Biblical Hebrew despite being separated by millennia.
Fans have done a similar thing for Tolkien's languages. It's not perfect but it's usable. Of course, as with Hebrew, there are concepts that are murky or subjects of disagreement. Scholars argue and the original authority is no longer available. So even some points of "orthodox" Quenya or Sindarin are going to be subjects of debate.
>It's true that there's not quite enough for conversation, but I don't think it was a design decision to prevent people from speaking it.
I didn't mean to imply that the intent was to prevent people from speaking it.
>"A precise account, with drawings and other aids, of Dwarvish smith-practices, Hobbit-pottery, Numerorean medicine and philosophy, and so on would interfere with the narrative [of the Lord of the Rings], or swell the Appendices. So too, would complete grammars and lexical collection of the languages. Any attempt at bogus 'completeness' would reduce the thing to a 'model', a kind of imaginary dolls house of pseudo-history. Much hidden and unexhibited work is needed to give the nomenclature a 'feel' of verisimilitude. But this story [The Lord of the Rings] is not the place for technical phonology and grammatical history. I hope to leave these things firmly sketched and recorded."
> I can spend a few minutes listening to your blazons and check if they're idiotic or if they work.
I'm pretty sure mine is fake, but it's never been more than a point of idle amusement for my family, so here we go:
Three white fish on a red field, arranged in a triangle with two on top, one on the bottom. A red boar's head in lieu of a helmet (which is why I'm pretty sure it's nonsense), and the shield is mantled.
Hurrah for not knowing proper terms.
>Replying to 9 different people
I've been there too bro
Have a good day man
>If you have to, then get something discrete that you can easily cover up.
I think that, in the event of a significant life event, a tattoo can be appropriate. I had a teacher in high school who was suddenly diagnosed with cancer and had to quit teaching. A bunch of his students got together and rallied together support and fundraisers and managed to pay for a pretty substantial portion of his treatment. He got a tattoo of the school logo on his arm once he went into remission and came back to teaching.
>Girls, if you get a tattoo on the back of your neck or the small of your back, you should be prepared to put out a lot of anal sex over the rest of your life, because I promise you you'll never be able to convince your husbands that you haven't at least tried it and then they'll want it, too.
KEK this tbqh
>Three white fish on a red field, arranged in a triangle with two on top, one on the bottom. A red boar's head in lieu of a helmet (which is why I'm pretty sure it's nonsense), and the shield is mantled.
"Gules, three fishes argent. A boar's head gules for helmet." would be the proper blazon, as far as I can tell. The use of a boar's head for helmet is really unsual but there's a lot worse.
The core coat would just be "Gules, three fishes argent". When there's three charges, they're normally placed in an inverted triangle, so no need to be specific about it.
It's a legal coat of arms. Is it canting? is the three fishes some sort of pun on your family name?
Three fish, no clue. The biggest stretch I can make is that my surname is Luce, which is a fish in France. Part of why we don't take it too seriously is that we just can't find out if we're the French branch of the family, or the "We're technically British but boned everything" branch.
The subjectiveness is highly important because just because one person likes or believes something doesnt necessitate it to be true. Just because you find women with tats to be ugly to you does not make that a universal truth and shouldnt be used in a (legitimate) argument against them and I think that it hurts your argument more than it helps because it demonstrates that you are biased against them which will then bring your other points that were actually valid concerns into question.
Objectiveness matters in a situation like this where people are seriously discussing something. If you arent objective, or at least willing to accept that your viewpoint is flawed by bias, then it just becomes a shitflinging match of opinions with no progress being made one way or another.
I know that were on 4chan and having an intelligent conversation that doesnt devolve into stupid shitflinging is asking a lot but we can try.
...that doesn't look a thing like Arabic. It looks way, way more like Telugu, which is the writing system of a people who live on the other side of India from the Arabian peninsula, in the state of Andhra Pradesh.
However, it's neither of those, it's Tengwar, the alphabet Tolkien created to write his various Elvish languages in. The One Ring's script is in a stylized form of Tengwar, for example.
>be me have Bourdain tier bhudist mystical tattoo
>interview goes well
>i notice the interviewer keeps glancing at my tattoo on my wrist
>I say 'oh btw my religious tattoo isnt going to be a problem is it?'
>interviewer has to think for a while to try and come up with an answer that wont get him in trouble
The only tattoos that someone cant discriminate against
Then it's probably singing arms. It doesn't mean your family had any french ancestry: french has been the lingua franca of high society (and low society trying to pass themselves as high society) for several centuries.
Even the official motto of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland is in french: "Dieu et mon droit"
my dad got bored after drafting class and took a needle and some ink and made a tattoo with his initials above the web between thum and index. His father saw it and proceeded to remove it using a stainless steel brush. My father swore he would do the same to any of my tattoos.
I was just reading about lottery winners who were no accepted in their new wealthy neighborhood. "New" money is always looked down on. In 'Murica too. The filthy rich old families aren't tattooed either.
No wait... it's bigger than bait. I can just make it out...
Thats because most of the people who win are not high enough class, eg upper middle would probably have an easier time than lower.
Imagine having the Beverly Hillbillies move next door.
Also, Lotto winners are notoriously bad with their winnings.
>Also, Lotto winners are notoriously bad with their winnings.
What the fuck do they do with all that money to lose it all, anyway?
I guess I'm not a backwoods hick because all I'd want is a couple cruises and a house in the nice part of town.
Well, the types of people who win the lottery are the types of people who play the lottery. Since the lottery is just a way to give away money you don't want anymore, it can't be surprising that lottery winners aren't paragons of wealth management.
Yeah, that's also like asking why it's dumb to transliterate English into Latin. Just because a language isn't spoken widely (or really at all) doesn't mean there still isn't a right and wrong about it. No one's gonna hold a gun to your head to make sure you get your Klingon perfect, but the only people who will give a fuck are the people who know you are wrong.
The problem is that people don't seem to see an important distinction between "correct" and "incorrect". Spoiler alert: You get no social points for being wrong in public, no matter how cool it would have been if you were right. The thing that impresses others is that you properly executed a difficult project, not the pretty squiggles. So, you're right. It is easier to use transliteration than it is to learn a fake language. However, social points are simply not awarded for "easy".
So, yeah. You can call someone a dork for knowing better Klingon than you, but who was the tattoo meant for if not people who speak Klingon?
>Even the official motto of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland is in french: "Dieu et mon droit"
No it's not. That's the motto of the monarch of the UK (excluding Scotland). The UK doesn't have an official motto (which is probably why the monarch's is sometimes mistaken for it)
Hey crestfag anon, still here?
I've got one, but I think it's just a coat of arms, and is quite possibly not a real one.
I'll take a picture, can you crestfag it for me?