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fun decks that need help and should have gotten some unbans edition
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>>44888288
>dread return
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>>44888288
>unbanning grapeshot
I hope you meant Seething Song
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>>44888288
>All the budget modern decks spiking in price
Tumbling down, tumbling down
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>>44888302
>>44888352
Don't be dumb, I just picked 2 cards out of 2 hypothetical good mdoern storm/dredge decks which currently don't exist and asked for unbans like rituals, cantrips, dread return or reprints like cabal therapy.
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>>44888402
>don't be dumb

says the poster who posted a dumb post

nice thread c.uck
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>buy 10 BFZ with some random Wal-Mart giftcard
>first pack pull a gideon, second pack pull a drana, third pack pull a foil duel land
not too bad
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>>44888458
>>44870341
>>44870341
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>>44888483
Never actually played standard, I just bought them because they were on sale
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>WoTC wants to make a black Eldrazi deck see modern play
>ban Twin to make sure its played

Good to see Wizards going full Konami and using their Ban list to push new cards rather than fix formats.
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>>44888554
It worked last year's PT FRF with Rhino Domination.
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>>44888554
Woah dude just trying to spice things up.

If you dont like it then spend $65 to attend your next GP
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Unban Jace and stoneforge mystic. Let control exist
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>>44888576
And Abzan dominated for the next several months until K Command came out.
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I thought this was an interesting thing to bring up; Hallowed Fountains are lowest they've been since the reprint.
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anyone know how long the pucatrade 3x deal is going on for?
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http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/bananaman-and-his-pet-fish/

Based on the guys having a conversation about Chapin style Grixis control overwhelming both the newer grindier control build or Kiki replacing Twin I ask, why not both?
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>>44888641
Probably because its been literal years since UWx control was a thing.
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>>44888641
Now just tell me when Flooded Strand goes back down and I'll sleeve up those Mana Tithes.
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Don't know if this is the right place, but considering the public I think it is

my collection just went over the 1k card milestone, and i don't have enough stamina/money to sleeve/box all of the cards
how do I protect them then? Are silica bags good? how about contact with wood? Do I need to make sure the space will be dry and dark? how about average temperature?
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>>44888714
Put expensive cards in sleeves in binders. Whatever isn't in a deck that isn't expensive goes in a cardboard card box, sorted first by set then by WUBRG then by alphabetical order.
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>>44888754
yes silica bags or no silica bags?
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>>44888714
If the number of loose singles you own exceed the size of approximately three fatpack boxes, you have too many. Cull them. Having a large trade binder isn't cool; donate the chaff to someone or the store and only keep the good shit around.

Unsleeved cards don't do well against wood. You don't need silica unless you live in a humid place and if you decide to use them you should make sure the box is sealed so they don't need to be replaced. My cube has sat in a case with silica gel bags and they haven't "worn out" in years.

I see no point in having a large collection in loose cards. The majority of one's collection should be in a deck. I'm not impressed by people's huge binders of mostly-crap, often it tells me they don't care enough to be organized.
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>>44888858
I see. To be honest I'm just so afraid of giving up my cards that I end up behaving as a hoarder
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>yfw you realize that R E S T O R E B A L A N C E has a great matchup against infect which is going to get wildly popular
hehehehe
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>>44888939
I use a converted briefcase to carry all my singles. My random supplies like sleeves and loose packs I put into a shoebox, decks go into another shoebox, which I pick two or three out and carry around in what is essentially a purse with a shoulder strap.

I have a hard limit on the number of singles I own to prevent myself from hoarding, which I am prone to do. The briefcase is always 100% full, if a format staple needs to go into it, it means something has to go. I never have more than around 50 cards for trade at any given time and they're all worth around $7 or more; I don't waste my time with piddly shit that even EDH players don't want.

All in all, the whole shebang can fit into a milk crate.
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>>44888939
>To be honest I'm just so afraid of giving up my cards that I end up behaving as a hoarder

separate your cards into these simple categories
go down the list from the top and when you reach the dividing line, follow the instructions there.
>completed decks
>format staples
>tradebait
>alt art/promo
>ancient nostalgia cards (ABU, etc.)
-----------------------------(keep)
>bulk mythic/rares
-----------------------------(sell to lgs)
>everything else
-----------------------------(penn_jillette.jpg)
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>>44888288
What would make tier 3 decks viable, /tg/?
>BW Tokens
Gideon based 2cmc anthem giving Tokens +1/+1 and indestructible
>UR Delver
True Name Nemesis printed in a standard set.
>death and Taxes
SFM unban

Not that any of these would be a good idea, imagine Merfolk with TNN or Abzan with SFM
Any other decks, suggestions?
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*slams down on the bell*

BOUGHT IN BEFORE OGW.
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>>44889288

>Abzan with Stoneforge mystic

What's wrong with that?
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>>44889337
post more pics of yourself
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>>44889288
All wrong.
>Probably nothing can make tokens T1, but Cabal and Jitte would be the best for it
>UR delver only needs Daze
>D&T needs mom
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>>44889381
You can have the old ones.
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>>44889401
gross
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>>44889401
cute i can dig it
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>>44889394
>Mom in Modern

Make it so.
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>>44889401

got a bf?
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>>44889394
>cabal therapy reprint
Please, I dont think my dick can get any harder
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>>44889288
>TNN in modern
Please, I want Merfolk to get even better.
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>>44889401
hey neat i have that same phonecase

>>44889473
never ever mom is wayyy too good
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>>44889473
>mom in modern
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>>44889713
I think modern can handle it, what decks would it seriously make viable anyway?
Even with it, DnT isnt exactly fast, doesnt have port or a way to effectively deny mana
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>omgomgomg a gurl

jesus christ nut up you faggots
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>>44889766
>girl
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>>44888940
Only if you don't die pre turn 3, got dismembers in the main of my build ATM but can't find too many ways to interact early
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>>44889762
Idunno man, if you can't kill her turn one she warps the entire field around her. DnT has Thalia,and that new bird thingy to deny mana.
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>>44889807
beast within works, along with aggressively mulliganing to get a spirit guide + combo piece to get a turn 2 Balance. I own both decks and have been running them against each other and it's a pretty tough matchup for infect, not 100% unwinnable for it but it's hard
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>>44889850
It doesnt deny mana, you can still cheat things in and you eventually run out of gas
Some decks will just entirely go around you.
Legacy DnT has Wasteland and Port that dont just make it difficult, but impossible for your opponent to play magic
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>>44889762
Ghost Quarter + Leonin Arbiter does a pretty good Wasteland impression.
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>>44889401
noice, got tats?
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>>44889887
Exactly, Wizards hates that style of deck so we're never ever getting anything to make Modern DnT actually good.
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>>44889850
The one thing I like about Mom is that she can't stop Nauseam. Who gives a damn about creatures when I can just dump a Lightning Storm in their face?
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>>44889401
Tranny/10
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Is there a primer on how to play the processor eldrazi deck?
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>>44890296
Anon you are blind. Her facial features and her breasts are feminine. A man jaw is the first thing that tells you the difference.
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>>44890332
TrannyMTGO pls.
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>>44890296

hands are too small. always look at the hands.
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best targets for pithing needle?
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>>44890318

>Needing a guide for memedrazi

Just windmill slam those Thought Nazis and Reality Smashers and just fuck their shit up familia
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>>44890389
In what matchups?
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>>44890389
Karn.
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>>44890389

Planeswalkers, Oblivion Stones, Cranial Platings, Vials, Ezuri, manlands, Viscera Seer
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>>44890378
Dude. Those hands are bigger than mine
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>>44890393
I know theres the processor build for memedrazi, but whats the other build called?
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>>44890410
Tron and Affinity in particular, but is there anything in Burn it can hit?
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>>44890495
The only thing that comes to mind are fetches.
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Inverter of truth looks really really sexy.

It could be the splinter twin replacement we've all dreamed of!
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I'm thinking of Call the Gatewatch in Balance Superfriends and maybe Painful Truths because the deck is 5c anyway and it's a strong card draw engine. I also pulled a Gideon and tried it out and it's pretty great as a finisher, defs keeping it in
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Except Bloom Tender, what's some cheap combos with this card?
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>>44890881
Post list
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After playing standard for one year I was thinking of making a Modern deck, Zoo. I have some questions.

Is the deck playable (as competitive playable) right now against the rest of the meta?
What are the decks worst/best matchups?
I can afford nearly all the deck except for Arid Mesas and Tarmogoyfs, are there any viable replacements?

In return, my thanks and this burrito rabbit.
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>>44890921
That's a taco you heathen.
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>>44890921
thats clearly a taco rabbit
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I was going to buy a Kiki for EDH before he jumped higher, but my gut is telling me to finish my set of Mutavaults to finish my fish.
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>>44890921

>Zoo
No. Play burn or Infect. Zoo is poo
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>>44890921
What's the list you're using? If they aren't playing any other delve cards, I like Hooting Mandrills as a budget replacement. Obviously not nearly as good for the fast explosive starts Zoo normally has, but still good. Otherwise just more burn probably. Or you can try shoving Collected Company in there.

Anyway it's probably going to get fucked for a little bit now that Tron players are all going to be trying out their shiny new Kozilek's Return sideboard toy before they decide whether it's actually good or not. Pretty sure Affinity and straight Burn are just faster right than Zoo right now, but its time will come around eventually.
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>>44890906
3 Restore Balance
4 Violent Outburst
4 Ardent Plea
4 Greater Gargadon
1 Riftwing Cloudskate
1 Gideon, Ally of Zendikar
1 Garruk Relentless
1 Kiora the Crashing Wave
2 Jace, Architect of Thought
1 Beast Within
1 Utter End
1 Dismember
4 Simian Spirit Guide
4 Wildfield Borderpost
4 Wildfire Borderpost
4 Fieldmist Borderpost
2 Veinfire Borderpost
2 Mistvein Borderpost
2 Flooded Strand
1 Steam Vents
4 Terramorphic Expanse
1 Plains
1 Swamp
1 Forest
2 Island
1 Mountain

I have 3 flex spots in that last, currently filling them are 2 Nihilith and 1 Riftwing Cloudskate. Probably going to remove the Garruk, Kiora is decent against Tron because it can stop their creatures and it gives some card draw. I don't really want to get rid of much more removal but maybe I should do that and just run removal in sideboard.
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>>44890921
without goyf Zoo can either go burn-ish (that's gruul zoo), or it can go combo-ish (that's Knightfall) or it can go hatebears-ish (scooze, voice, and pridemage), which direction do you want to go?
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>>44890942
>>44890945
How about this burrito then?

>>44890962
>>44890987
>>44891062
>zoo is bad

I see. This is the deal, like I said Im just a Standard player and I have been playing for a year.
Since Khans will rotate out in April, I was thinking about selling my Abzan deck right now to cash the fetchs and everything else while it holds value.
However I could also keep the fetchs and start building a Modern deck, but nothing too expensive either since I don't have that kind of income right now.

Since my favorite colours are Green and White and I like nature themes, I figured Zoo would go fine with me, but I don't want to build the deck either if it's not competitive enough like you guys say, because I like to go to GPs or big cash tournaments and what not.

This was the Zoo list I saw: http://mtgtop8.com/event?e=11234&d=263815&f=MO

Or should I just build Modern Abzan?
http://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/360637#paper

>>44891062
To be honest Im not that smart, so the easiest more effective playstyle would be my choise.
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>>44891174
keep the fetches, those are going to hold value for a long time
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>>44891174
so you were playing Azban in standard. Was it Azban aggro or Azban midrange or Azban control?
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>>44891202
Okay.

>>44891217
Aggro.
This is pretty similar to what Im running right now: http://sales.starcitygames.com//deckdatabase/displaydeck.php?DeckID=96309
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>>44891296
if you were running azban aggro, then you don't want to play modern azban, its a grindy value deck. Zoo aggro is going to be where you want. Aggro zoo runs the naya colors, you keep your fetches and have the naya shocks. Take a look at these two lists:
http://www.channelfireball.com/articles/naya-zoo/
http://www.channelfireball.com/articles/burning-zoo/

zoo was quite bad until nacatl was unbanned and coco was printed.in that first list, go ahead and sub in birds instead of hierarch and Voice instead of goyf for budget alternatives.
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Raging Ravine at $24
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>>44891504
I remember when all the WW manlands were $3 and I only bought up the green/white ones because that was the only color I played at the time. God damn you wizards.
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if my opponent has a Leyline of Sanctity, and I played Hunted Horror, they're not a legal target for the tokens, right?
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>>44891497
Thanks, also I don't mind playing grindy decks at all, is not like I could kill anyone before turn 10 or so (more or less, you get the idea) with Abzan Aggro on standard right now.
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>>44891563
You are correct, but the strategy is very poor.
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>>44891563
It works with something like torpor orb but you're better off doing it in legacy with a turn 1 dark ritual into torpor orb phyrexian dreadnought
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>>44891504
>Eye of Ugins are $40
>Blacleave Cliffs are $24
>Groves are $80
After the fucking pro tour it's going to be cheaper to play Legacy than Modern. Screenshot this post.
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>>44891719
Without dual lands it actually is cheaper to play legacy than modern, I can build legacy ANT minus the duals for less than most modern decks
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How do you figure out what the next card to spike will be?
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>>44891779
git gud and guess the meta shifts
after the tron pieces buyout and the pro tour, inkmoth is going to spike like crazy. inkmoth and goryo's vengeance are my predictions
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>>44891779
look at what card just went up in price
figure out that the card goes in deck A
Deck B is good against Deck A
Buy cards from Deck B
Repeat with decks C,D, etc. and eventually look back to Deck A
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>tfw legacy and vintage are the comfiest formats but they're so expensive
why are legacy players so much better than modern babbies
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>>44891823
Wow, you finally realized this game is a rock/paper/scissors kind of thing huh
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>>44891840
Because Legacy and Vintage players overall are very old players with little to prove and a shortage of people to play their preferred formats with.
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>>44891779
You create the spike by buying out the card
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>>44891779

Jeskai Ascendancy
Glittering Wish
Gemstone Mines

I feel very confident that someone will be able to top 8 if not top 16 with Ascendancy in a major now that Twin and by extension, BGx is gone
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>>44891958
>people still thinking BGx is dead
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I just wanna play Grixis Durdle forever and ever, but I've missed on the low prices of most stuff I'd need.
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>>44892016
If tron/eldrazi take hold it will be. It wont be around too long if it loses it's best matchup and gains very bad ones.
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Post ur eldrazi decklist mememeteis
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Is UR delver well positioned against tron: the format?

I'm thinking of putting it back together with Stormchaser Mage from oath.
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>>44891840
Legacy and vintage are a really small community which helps keep things in line.
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Someone posted a ninja faerie decknot long time ago. Can I have a decklist? I have 2 Vendilion already.
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>>44892195
Play a real deck instead.
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>>44892195
Ive played against that deck before, you run 4 Delver of Secrets, 4 Disrupting shoal, vendillion clique, etc
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/ninja-bird-delver/
Heres a deck list, you can also run ninja bear Delver, same except for a few creatures
Basically it is the tempo-iest tempo deck ever. This is not a deck you play if you want friends, or are bad
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>>44892265
Martyr of frost could find a home in a deck like this.
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>>44892121
Aggro will be more viable without Twin. Tron/Eldrazi.dec won't be as dominating as you think.
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>>44892301
The only thing which may swing for Tron is how good the new mythic slagstorm thing is.

I actually expect Boggles to make a huge comeback. Ive never played it and have no idea what their infect matchup is but if its even 50/50 it seems very well positioned.
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They are talking about unbanning Ancestral Visions, right?

I just bought a Japanese Jace vs Chandra, weeb edition, for $20. Did I do good?
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My deck was just viable became twin easy ezpz and I 1/4th of my matchups were twin, so scared to see what will fill the void. I really hope its not tron.
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>>44892381
Infect got better by a lot with the best deck in the format being its free win deck, but struggles a bit against some of the other aggro decks, yet makes up for it by beating the other combo decks. Bogles had something like an 85% game 1 win rate with Twin in, I can only imagine how much more popular it's going to be now. Which is fine actually because I like Bogles, it's really simple and autopilot and fun if you're just chilling or playing drunk.
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>>44892265

What's the proper way to run Disrupting Shoal? What CMCs are important right now?

Obviously it's hopeless against le turn 3 Karn though desu senpai
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>>44890888
Dark Steel garrison with Faerie Conclave/Creeping Tar Pit.
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>>44892442
kek that actually works as a turn 4 kill too
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>>44892442
That's actually hilarious
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No legacy thread
I play Canadian Threshold. If someone plays cabal therapy, is it correct to counter it or force of will it if I absolutely have to, assuming that I have a Delver down? Or would there be a better card for them to name
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>bought into modern eldrazi early and tried to go sultai
>inconsistant results, chalked eldrazi up to being a fad and sold cards
>eldrazi shit is now 3x the price i bought them for
>mfw
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>>44892459
Nope, you have to turn on Faerie Conclave and enchant it on the same turn and leave faeire conclave untapped. Freed from the Real falls off once Faerie Conclave is no longer a creature.
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>>44892522
Therapy usually means combo, and they're probably going to name force if it's blind and game 1. If you only have blue card + FoW then don't bother. If you have blue card + FoW + another counter, it's probably worth it.
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>>44892522
It really depends on what you're gripping. Cabal Therapy is one of the most skill intensive cards in mtg and I'm shit at legacy so here read an article or something I just googled
http://www.channelfireball.com/home/legacy-weapon-therapy-session/
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http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/garrison-combo/
Make changes
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>>44892564
Why would you just immediately sell the cards like that? You deserve it
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>>44892606
what does this deck even do?
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>>44892632
its just shit i whipped up because of >>44892442
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>>44892606
You're misunderstanding Second Wind. The tap ability is on the enchantment itself, you'd need a way of untapping permaments or enchantments in specific.
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tendo ice bridge is 25 dollars now
fucking eldrazi aggro
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>>44892664
Small Jace is 60 dollars now. Fucking blue, right!
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>>44892606
Go Sultai to get a Turn 1 Mana Dork. Combo will go off 1 turn faster.
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>>44892655
i just read it and changed it because its late here
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/garrison-combo/ should be fine-ish now
>>44892689
also works
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>>44892671
You made me freak out and think that baby Jace B was $60.

I was really excited and confused for a few minutes.
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>>44892664
Shieeet, thanks for the heads up dude
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>>44892664
No it isn't. On any site
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>>44892733
never seen /tg/ actually help someone before
damn
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>>44892776
Apparently it is
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>>44892776
look at tcgp, someone bought out all the MP+ copies, starcity has 1(kek) at 8 bucks every other copy is mispriced and going to be bought out tonight/tomorrow.
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The salt.
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Getting all the pieces for Scapeshift Friday. Just need two Snapcasters, the set of Cryptics, and some of the commons.
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the nexusfag actually started talking sense which is weird
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>>44892820
Fuck off tranny
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>>44892820
Tournament practice?

Because that place is literal cancer.
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will ancient stirrings spike too?
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>>44892863
Already increased in price.
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>>44892429
1 and 2 are the most relevant
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Okay, /tg/.
B/W Eldrazi or
Mono Black Eldrazi and why?
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>>44890888
arcanis the omnipotent is p good

mind over matter + freed from the real allows you to go infinite with a creature that taps to draw one or more cards
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>>44892963
Again, B/W Eldrazi because it's had the best results and it's the most midrange-y out of all of them.
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>>44892963
B/W for lingersouls is pretty good
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>>44891758
I built legacy ANT with the duals for less than some modern decks. legacy Merfolk isn't tier 1, but it's also the cheapest deck that I'd consider playing
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>>44892820
>EmaLovely
You still play fighting games bro?
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>>44893150
Just play shocks in place of true duals, lots of people do it
Or get fakes, especially if youre only playing at Pptq or Fnm level. Im slowly acquiring the cards for my thresh deck, people cant tell the difference between the proxied cards and the real ones
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anyone else just not care about non-legacy formats anymore?

like i'm on straight red deck for modern and standard now because i'm not interested in any of the meta decks. fuck-you, sideways redguys and GET 'EM.
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>>44893237
I primarily play Legacy because they dont kill a deck solely for "muh meta variety", and standard is full of retards who play shitty decks
I refuse to play against a standard deck that has no win condition except a 2/2, 4 of every counterspell in standard, and about 20 silkwrap style cards
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>>44893184
Yep.
Gonna actually play SFV when it drops since Tekken is nowhere in sight for home console yet.
Right now I'm also playing/learning KI again and debating on getting back into 50/50 X (Mortal Kombat X)
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>>44893237
I only care for memedern for memedecks, maybe the eldrazi one since I like bigguys.

Who here /eternal/?

Pauper represent.
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>>44893237
I dig legacy but I only get to play like once a month which blows. I really wish they had weeklies.

>>44893281
I'll probably get SFV then drop it after a week and go back to shitty anime games and kof98.
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>>44890495

Lavamancer, if they run it.
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>>44893276
>a 2/2, 4 of every counterspell in standard, and about 20 silkwrap style cards
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>>44893392
I was playing this nigger casually with BW Tokens, I won a best of 3 but it took me 2 and a half hours
He also conveniently made sure that he shuffled at least 3 times a turn
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>>44893441
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>>44893187
they can if they have a good eye

i'm good friends with some guys who do lots of trading, buying, and selling high end stuff and they can spot fakes easily
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>>44893237
I play sideways redguys in Legacy too.

Not really, I play burn though.
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>>44893580
>tfw no Fireblast finishers in memedern
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>>44893635
>add fork for de ebin fun
>mfw finishing shitters with fork+fireblast at turn 3
Out played.
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>>44893635
>look into playing modern burn
>there's no price, fireblast
>most of your spells are 2 mana, some only deal 3 damage despite this

i'll stick to U/R storm, thanks

modern is a shit format
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>>44892820
List?
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>>44893187
Or just trade cards until you have a deck. This whole "I sold my deck" business is nonsense, you lose way less if you just trade intelligently. The only thing I actually had to buy for ANT was the LEDs.
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>>44893580
Legacy burn actually has lines and has some play to it. Modern burn is just autopilot.
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>>44893650
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>>44893741
oh, trust me, i know.

i was 2 life away from making day 2 at Grand Prix Tacoma.
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>>44893187
If you want to not buy duals try building a back to basics deck
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>>44893714

2 Swamp
1 Bojuka Bog
4 Eldrazi Temple
3 Eye of Ugin
2 Ghost Quarter
2 Godless Shrine
4 Marsh Flats
2 Shambling Vent
2 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
4 Blight Herder
4 Oblivion Sower
1 Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger
4 Wasteland Strangler
4 Inquisition of Kozilek
4 Lingering Souls
2 Thoughtseize
3 Plains
3 Expedition Map
4 Relic of Progenitus
1 Slaughter Pact
4 Path to Exile

SB:
1 All Is Dust
2 Celestial Purge
2 Disenchant
1 Disfigure
2 Memoricide
3 Rest for the Weary
2 Spellskite
2 Stony Silence


That feel when still loses to burn.
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>>44893237
Standard being shit is overflowing into modern being shit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzrjdSbcmic

Pretty much sums up my thoughts on the subject and anything I type out here would just be quoting honestly
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>>44893297
TPS and ANT reporting in. The hardest part of game day is deciding which ritual art to take to the table
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>>44893758

post your feminine penis instead
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>>44893237
The Modern price spike is confusing me to no degree.

I am seeing tons of people in quite a lot of big groups Im currently in cashing out on modern and either flat out quitting/taking a break or buying into legacy.
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>>44893818
It's set rotation time, prices always get weird when the format rotates
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>>44893818
you should be cashing in on some english lessons family, that post was a trainwreck
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>>44893748
For burn, deck mastery is knowing how to get the couple points in before the last turn
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>>44892395
Card will do nothing in modern even if unbanned
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>>44891174
You can do abzan with fake bobs, lilys and tarmogoyfs.
Or you can do Little kid abzan, with fake voices and noble hierarchs.
Lurk moar to get info about chinese fakes
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>>44892820
>memedrazi

Hope you lose to infect
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>>44892963
Monoblack. Once you go black you, never go back. That, and heartless summoning is explosive as fuck.
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>>44894725
The little I have seen of the Heartless Eldrazi deck made it look very airy, for lack of a better word. There simply seemed to be too many ways to make the Eldrazi cheap and not at all enough threats. The lists I have seen without the Summonings have appeared much scarier.
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>>44892820
>I hate losing to bad players
Nigger you're playing Esper in modern, don't even talk.
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>>44891719
Screen shot for posterity
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So if you pump your creature in response to Exile it doesn't work correct?
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>>44895190
Correct
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>>44895234
thanks, I thought that was how it worked since it doesn't check the power/toughness after targeting it.
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>>44895243
>since it doesn't check the power/toughness after targeting
It does. All targetting spells check requirements upon resolution. It's just that spells that are worded like Warping Wail also check them when declaring the targets. A card like Pyroblast, however, only checks them on resolution, it still allows you target any spell or permanent when declaring that you cast it regardless of its color.
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>>44895270
Oh thanks for clarifying man, my mistake.
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I have a playset of bloodcleave cliffs that I don't use.

Should I trade them for fetches with red for my burn deck or keep them?
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>>44895234
>>44895270
>>44895190
>>44895270

Kinda Sucks against Swiftspear then
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>>44895117
You have an unread message bro
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>>44895190
Would've actually been decent against Twin but its dead now.

Still a decent sideboard card imo due to options and the fact that it counters sorcery spells.
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>>44895506
Yeah, Still hits Bob and many others, also stops Anger which is nice.

I just wish it could stop a swiftspear post pump.
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>>44893237
>Standard is full of Abzan
>Modern banned a gatekeeper deck to let all the midrange and combo in
>Pauper had a card banned that I had just picked up the other day
>Commander nerfed every combo deck that exists and made it useless to try and run something that isn't on a curve
>Running proxies in Legacy is illegal now

Its like Wizards wants me to sell my house to get into Vintage.
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>>44895546
just sell a kidney bro you only need 1
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>>44895546
Anon, take the dredge option
>Go with proxies
>Make proxy tourneys
>Slay the jew
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I was told to not run serum visions in this. What do you think?
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>>44895673
Your deck can't lose to Tron harder.
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>>44895546
>Running proxies in Legacy is illegal now

Outside of casual play, who'd compete with someone playing proxies?
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>>44895700
I knooooow. I wanna play midrange. it's not like I have a choice.
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>>44895700
Don't worry. Tron will get nerved next year.
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>>44890389
Borborygmos
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>>44895546
>Banning Twin let in all the midrange and combo
>the format is now open to the foreign hordes
Was Twin actually Trump?
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>>44895789
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>>44895812
Considering there was an American-colored variant, yes.
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>>44895789
>everyone still mad at bob
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>>44895789
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>affinity autist sacs all of his shit to ravager
>sacs Ravager and puts counters on an Ornithopter
>his face when I whip out my World Breaker
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>>44896012
>not killing your opponent when attacking with Ornithopter
You must have played a REAL bad Affinity player.
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>>44895546
Proxies aren't illegal?
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>>44896012
I've had this happen, but with something like Inkmoth.

>"Okay, I sac everything to my Ravager, and then I sac my Ravager to put 10+ counters on Inkmoth"
>"Okay in response I bolt your Inkmoth"


Why are Affinity players so retarded?
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>>44888458
It's "dual" you fucking moron.
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Who here is on the esper control train?
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>Almost everyone cries for Twin
>No one cries for Summer Bloom
Muh stupid turn two plays?
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>>44896453
Ad Nauseam is Esper

+R
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>>44888402
want
cabal
therapy
and
deed
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>>44890888
a guy that untaps a land,and ravnica simic bounce land = infinite green mana for instance
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>>44896453
I fucking love that Ad Nauseam is an instant win deck. Tap out for a Lightning Bolt to swing with Swiftspear for win? Grace+Nauseam. Three Pact triggers on the stack? Grace+Nauseam. Wurmcoil beats coming down? Grace+Nauseam.
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>>44896453
Thinking of brewing esper dragon control but there's no resources for me in modern
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>>44893801
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>built memerazi before the spike
>it's fun

Still, these spikes are ridiculous for an effective tier 2 deck that's going to be hated on. The spike for heartless summoning makes no aense and os completely unproven.
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>>44892837
>implying you wouldn't still hate fuck a tranny into bad mtgo decks
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>>44890378
She has bigger hands than I do and I'm a tranny.
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>>44896651
>tfw found 3 cabal therapys while going through an old box of cards
shit was like christmas
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>>44896899
Obligatory: Pics our it didn't happen
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>>44896804
What's the hate cards?
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>>44896961
Not same fag but... Maybe Torpor orb?
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>>44896960
I guess it didn't happen then because I don't post pictures. Sorry bud, just letting you know that the hands can lie. You should pay more attention to shoulders, finger ratios and the rib cage. That's all the tranny spotting advice I'll dispense though.
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>>44896809
I like my women like women and my men how I like my dredge one game only
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>>44896988
How does that work when most of the deck has trigger on cast?
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>>44895546
This
>>44895596

Dredge is the Final Solution to your problem
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>>44897154
Well then you have to go discard hate if they are monob with abzan liege that have loxodon and wilt leaf, i have cine good. Ulamog is a problem but you can always discard it
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>>44895546
Only for DCI tournaments, anything you their together you're not getting DCI points for no one careers about.
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>>44896057
Sometimes this is the right play, but you shouldn't sperg out when you lose like this. I had a dude at a pptq cry and go "urruurrrg i got no permanents!" when I cast Volc Fallout in response to him putting the counters on Inkmoth. He was super salty. yfw swiftspear was still alive
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Will it be safe to take my storm deck to a modern event? (I'm talking like, fnm, not an open or some shit)
Or should I just keep it in the shame box?
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>>44891958
I didn't follow MtG in general for some time. Is there a good Ascendancy list right now?
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>>44897332
I see you're not up to date on the situation. If a store allows proxies in unsanctioned tournaments, Wizards revokes their right to hold sanctioned tournaments.
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>>44897253
But why yes!

Remember: Wear your dredge pride, world wide as a badge of pride!
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>>44895789
Heh
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What's the best midrange deck besides BGx? I saw someone post a Mardu Midrange list anyone still have the link to that?
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>>44897425
I see you're not up to date on the situation. Stores can hold unsanctioned events that allow proxies.
http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/proxies-policy-and-communication-2016-01-14
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>>44890378
I'm male and my hands are small as fuck.
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>>44897366
Go for it, I've been playing Storm at FNM's for a while and I've noticed almost no decks have hate for it in the sb, the worst thing I've come across is RiP and Chord for Eidion of Rhetoric.
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What's the best configuration for burn going into the the new metagame: Naya or RW? I feel like with all of the aggressive decks everyone seems to think are going to be popular that I should be RW in order to have a less painful manabase and have access to maindeck lightning helixes. I've never been a huge fan of command though, so I feel like this might be personal bias getting in the way of playing the objectively best build for the meta. Also, 1x mainboard deflecting palm; super secret tech, or pure jank?
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>>44897581
Mardu is best
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>>44890419
Heartless Eldrazi
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>>44897581
I played straight Boros burn for a long time. When I made the switch over to Naya with cats I noticed myself winning far more. Nacatl is just so explosive and it fixes the problem with running out of gas.
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>>44897760
It's just such a shitty top deck though. Even if I play Naya, I probably won't run Nacatls.
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>>44897809
>>44897809
It's up to you I had the same exact opinion as you. I love them now even though I absolutely hate the art, I couldn't ever dream of running without them. Imagine a two Nacatl and one guide hand. It absolutely demands an answer from your opponent because with out one you can threaten lethal on turn three. It helps slow your opponents gameplan down.
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>>44897560
At lot of people at my LGS netdeck, so its was full of Tron, Affinity, Twin, and Bloom.

Like, Its nice to know turn three is a little safer, but a single Karn activation could cause trouble, and infect will kill me turn 1 if I don't have a Tim Allen in hand. But with Twin and Prime time gone now, should I go give it another shot? or should I go looking for another store.
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>mfw I can play abzan eldrazi
A-an-anons...
I-i think the memes a-are back
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>>44898153
fix your stutter you autistic fuck
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>>44896136
He obviously pulled an Arena.
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>>44897496
Anon, right now there IS no viable midrange deck in Modern that isn't BGx. Tier 1 has and may continue to have BGr, and Tier 2 has BGw. Goyf, Decay, and discard effects are literally too good to pass up at the competitive level.

Mardu is too focused on using spot removal on creatures, and lacks the heavy hitters you get by including green. Jeskai relies too heavily on badly-gimped countermagic and ALSO misses out on the heavy hitters in green.
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>>44898176
Memetic fuck.
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Deflecting Palm feels like the card to play now that everyone's trying to consolidate all their damage into one card.
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>>44897877
>Nacatls
>When new eldrazis are coming out

Nope
Would rather just run extra burn cards
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>>44898407
It is fucking hilarious to kill with
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>>44898407
>mfw people insisted that Deflecting Palm was a shit card that would never see play
>mfw people at my LGS get salty whenever I blow them out with a card they still insist is shit
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>>44889401
Pls be in london
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>>44898407
But it's useless against affinity.
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I'm building Naya Burn, but don't really have much of the manabase right now. I can definitely pick up the foundries and 2 more foothills (already have a pair). Probably can get mires as well, but tarns and mesas are a bit expensive right now. Is there anything else I should be looking at in the interim to flush my manabase out while I gradually pick up the ZEN fetches?
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>>44898428
Seriously. Why the fuck do people run Nacatl. It's not good in burn. You're shorting yourself 4 burn spells by running it.
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>>44898467
>mfw I was one of those people who thought it was a shit card

>mfw I lost track of how many different decks get shit on by resolving DP

>mfw it's going to be one of my favorite guilty pleasure cards
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>>44898481
How so? works great on Inkmoth and friends.
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>>44898482
Go cheap and get Foothills and Mires; they all fetch for a red source anyways. Fuck the Zendikar fetches man, burn doesn't even run blue anymore.
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>>44898269
Ehh my mardu list is completely viable it's just not great. Abbot of keral keep works as a pseudo goyf in half the games as long as your dropping a spell before combat. Also you randomly get to blow people out with bolt spam + prowess. Not to mention abbot + free card into play lategame. Also you get the free perk of destroying Jund because of souls, path, and free cards from abbot
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>>44898484
The Idea is that it acts as a Bolt on a stick. But I agree that it seems to only make Burn more inconsistent.
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>>44892820
>"I hate losing to bad players"
>bases this entirely off of the fact you're playing a deck they're unfamiliar with

I swear, these fucking modern kids...
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>>44898481
Well it technically can prevent Etched Champion from being a viable damage carrier since Deflecting Palm doesn't target.

But you still have to outplay Affinity's ability to shuffle damage and disregard blocks as it sees fit.
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>>44898407
>Mfw it does next to nothing against storm
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>>44898569
>he thinks Storm is good
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>>44898569
Shut up FinkelChar.
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>>44898530
Yeah, I've seriously considered just dropping the tarns and mesas. Is there anything I should be looking at to run instead of the ZEN fetches?
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>>44898569
It does nothing to Lantern Control either. That's one of the benefits of playing niche decks. People have plenty of dead cards against you game 1.

I am a little scared about all the artifact hate will have at the ready because of Affinity however, but I suspect I will just mill it away anyaway.
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>>44898774
What kind of format doesn't have people playing 2-3 Stony Silence in the side?
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>>44898518
If palm gets played, affinity decks will just use ravager to shift damage.
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>>44898407
>>44898437
>>44898467
>>44898501
>>44898565
I'm this anon (>>44897581)
So you're all basically confirming that maindeck palm isn't jank right? I figure it's good against any of the top decks, and worst case scenario you target a bolt or something and it's basically just a lightning helix.
>>44898569
Burn still rekts storm because of eidolon. sorry fag.
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>>44898888
Personally I wouldn't main it, but if you want to out-yomi the opponent then go for it.

But only after you max out on Boros Charm and Lightning Helix.
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>>44898945
My current build if I put a singleton palm in the main puts me at:
4 charms main
3 helixes main
1 helix sided
1 palm main
2 palms sided
The thought of palming against infect game 1, or blowing out a searing blaze in the mirror is just too good to pass up.
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>>44898875
The deck is alreadt prepared for Stony Silence though. It's not as if you don't automatically board in all your Nature's Claims against white decks.
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>>44898976
On second thought, palm doesn't interact with blaze how I thought it did, and gets blown out by skullcrack. It also seems mediocre against affinity if they have ravager out. I guess 2 in the side is enough for the relevant matchups.
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Guys I kind of want to build 5 color humans. Please remind me why that's a shitty idea.
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>>44899101
The way I see it, you could Deflecting Palm choosing Ravager so long as they don't have Etched Champ out, and that forces them into questionable play mode as they shuffle the damage elsewhere.

The right play would be to board in artifact hate first and foremost but I think a skilled player can Palm for incredible value if they outthink the Affinity pilot. But that requires being able to outthink a flowing river of damage.

>>44899187
Not enough functional reprints of Champion of the Parish.
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>>44899211
I already have revelries, volcanic fallouts, and a smash to smithereens for the infinity matchup. 'Bringing in palms is probably just overboarding.
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>>44899262
Yeah that's definitely going overboard.
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>>44898888
It's not REALLY maindeck, or at least it hasn't been previously. But depending on your expected metagame 1 or 2 maindeck could be acceptable.
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>>44891174
what about wilt-leaf abzan? it's a little bit more aggressive and cheaper than the "classic" modern abzan

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/wilt-leaf-junkabzan-aggro/

you could try to run a version with just 4 birds instead of 6 dorks to lower the costs.
you can also try ti make a version without voice of resurgence if they're extending your budget
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So is Abbot of Keral Keep any good in Dega/Mardu/Italia?
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>>44897406
I don't have any "official" list right now, but it's something like this

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/12-07-15-modern-jeskai-ascendancy-combo/
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>>44899588
Jeskai Ascendancy Combo — Modern | Cade McLarty
Creatures (12)
4 Birds of Paradise
4 Noble Hierarch
4 Sylvan Caryatid
Spells (32)
1 Thought Scour
3 Cerulean Wisps
3 Visions of Beyond
4 Manamorphose
2 Ideas Unbound
4 Gitaxian Probe
4 Glittering Wish
4 Serum Visions
4 Sleight of Hand
3 Jeskai Ascendancy
Lands (16)
1 Forest
1 Island
1 Breeding Pool
1 Hallowed Fountain
1 Misty Rainforest
1 Stomping Ground
1 Temple Garden
2 Windswept Heath
3 Gemstone Mine
4 Mana Confluence
Sideboard (15)
3 Swan Song
4 Young Pyromancer
1 Wheel of Sun and Moon
1 Scarscale Ritual
1 Jeskai Ascendancy
1 Abrupt Decay
1 Counterflux
1 Flesh // Blood
1 Wear // Tear
1 Bound // Determined

This was played at the Charlotte open i want to say
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>just finished my set of Mutas before they skyrocket again

Feels good, man.
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How does the new eldrazi deck (With OGW cards) fair against Tron?
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>>44899584
Is italia a used name? Shouldn't italia be naya instead of mardu?
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Help me with my UW Titties build?
3 Lone Missionary
4 Wall of Omens
2 Court Hussar
4 Flickerwisp
3 Pilgrim's Eye
4 Sun Titan

2 Aether Spellbomb
4 Path to Exile
1 Swansong (May come out because twin ban)
2 Mortarpod
3 Detention Sphere
1 Runed Halo
3 Supreme Verdict

4 Ghost Quarter
4 Flooded Strand
4 Hallowed Fountain
3 Emeria Sky Ruin
2 Island
6 Plains
SB:
2 Nevermore
1 Detention Sphere
2 Spreading Seas
1 Supreme Verdict
1 Stonecloaker
2 Stony Silence


I might run Kor Firewalkers in the side if burn picks up steam. I'm really scared of impending tron dominance.
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>>44900440
Fuck theres a
1 Negate MB too
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>>44898428
>>44898484
Because it's actually pretty good. I had the exact opinion you guys have now until I tested it out. It's not just a bolt for G. Its a bolt that's going to keep on hitting every turn until your opponent removes it which slows his gameplan down and it gets pumped by Command.
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>>44900415
mardu = iraq
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Considering fitting this nigga into my Sanguine Bond deck
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I run this guy as a one of in Eldrazi.
Beating in for 7 with annihilator is no joke. And his 20 ability ends games on the spot. Slap down Emrakul, Kozilek, and Newlamog.
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>>44900613
>Sanguine Bond deck
This thread is for the modern format
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>>44900649
And how often does that happen?
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>>44900649
You will never get to 20. Ever
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>>44900557
That color identity fits with the sand niggers too.
Red for their chaotic nature, beheadings, goat fucking
Black for their mistreatment of humans, pedophile worship etc
White for their false sense of justice
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>>44900524
I had the opposite opinion, tested it out and found it often to be a dead draw, also forced me to take more damage from shocklands and forced me to fetch for stomping ground ASAP. Worst case scenario is having a decent hand with a nacatl and two mountains or something similar.
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>>44900705
Hey man, black does NOT condone pedophilia
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>>44900440

Why not try 4x Stony Silence in your sideboard? If you're up against Affinity or Tron and lost game 1 you won't regret it (^:
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>>44900722
>>44900722
Well that's alright. I noticed myself winning more often with the card. I'd honestly rather go Boros just because I like the flavor and I hate Nacatls art but I can't pass up the higher win percentage.
One day theyll print a good R/W creature and then I'll take the cat out.
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>>44900440
>>44900779

Also, have you weighed Kor Firewalker vs Kitchen Finks for your burn side-in card? Seems as though both have merits.
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>>44900779
The affinity matchup isn't too bad. Every once in awhile they get away from me, but that deck is so anti aggro already...

Might work against tron. I may also just have to concede that this deck blows against tron. They have waaay more inevitability than I could ever hope to muster and short of soaring ahead of them and cycling ghost quarters with sun titan over and over, the matchup is piss poor.

I do need to think of something to combat tron though
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>>44899584
card is bonkers and unexplored
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>>44900841
If I resolve/flicker 2 missionary triggers I basically win vs burn. Their guides, nacatls, etc just run into my wall of omens or trade with missionaries. I 100% think Firewalker is a better SB card.
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>>44900649
I think it's just win-more and not worth the sideboard slots.
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>>44900844
>>44900868

Gotcha.

Sun Titan is one of my favorite finishers of all time, maybe I'll try this deck out sometime since I'm pretty close to having everything I need for it.
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>>44900864
this, it's like a red snapcaster that works on lands and creatures.
Tried it in UR and loved how it played out, I'm certain the same could be said for zoo decks or jund
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New thread
>>44900998
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>>44895546
Magic, despite being over 20 years old, as undergone a bunch of growtg the past few years. Now WotC is going to milk this cow for every shekel they can get. Once profits start going down they might more strides at listening to the community.
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>>44897426
DREDGE PRIDE WORLDWIDE
DREDGE PRIDE WORLDWIDE

If only there was a way to fit some of Harold McNeill's cards into Dredge it'd be perfect lel
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>>44900649
why would i ever want to cast this over ulamog?
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>>44895709
Plenty of stores I know used to run proxy events. I never would have completed my MUD deck if it weren't for proxy tournaments.
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>>44900415
Yes it is. "Team Italia" was the old name for a deck in those colors, and prior to Mardu being a name the wedge was either known as Dega or Italia.
>>44900864
When I'm in Japan next I'll have to snap a few up, they're cheaper there because there's less demand for them. Plus, you know, foreign language shit.

Three or four, I'd imagine?
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