>GW gives the green light for the multi million dollar movie for Horus Heresy
>Auditions for the God Emperor begin almost immediately
>This guy turns up on day one
There's nothing in the cannon that specifically says that's he's white. I don't disagree that he should almost infallibly be white but Idris Elba's acting range and ability is perfect for Bond. I just think he would have done a good job
>John Hurt is Malcador, puts no effort in and still steals every scene
>Tom Hardy somehow knows that Horus is supposed to have an accent and does the part for free. The eventual performance sounds like a Glaswegian French man doing an impression of Matthew McConaughey
>Benedict Cumberbatch plays cold and calculating Lorgar
>Martin Freeman plays Erebus, his long-suffering moral compass
>Sean Penn plays Leman Russ in penance for the bad thing he did
>Michelle Rodrigez plays Lion El'Johnson
>Eddie Redmayne plays the Phalanx
>Bret Ratner directs
It's a societal double standard, black actors can be white characters but white actors can't be black characters because suddenly that's racism.
Except for the books describe him as looking like Hoagy Carmichael.
Have Cumberbatch play Gillman, they're both faggots.
Stallone with a shaved head would be perfect for Lorgar
Sorry, no Catachan Devils yet, wait one millenia.
>No counter point
Then you can't say that in the cannon that nothing says he's white since he's only been white in the films and those you have now said are separate.
>James Bond is and always should be portrayed by a white Brit
>Idris Elba could pull off a suave and dashing secret agent character in the vein of James Bond
Both of these statements are true.
I understand where people are coming from when they say that Idris Elba could pull off Bond. However, if you want to be truly progressive and empower minority actors, how about giving them their own characters and IPs, instead of riding the coattails of whites and using accusations of racism as a cheap shield against well-deserved criticism?
Same goes for shit like the new Ghostbusters.
If Idris wants to be in the movie he can be Vulkan. We already have the perfect emperor.
Just because he's only been white doesn't mean he has to be. There's no explicit statement or reason in the films that he's always white. Moneypenny was white and now she's black. Same principle. It's not explicit. If it was then that would be a different matter, but there is literally no reason bond has always been white in films other than the best choices for the character were white actors. Idris Elba would do a very good Bond based on his past roles and abilities therefore there is no reasonable argument to exclude him from portraying the film version of James Bond as he is the current best choice
Most of middle east were populated mostly by black people until relatively recently, especially in higher classes.
Whats the bullshit? That a character who has always been white since the 60's is suddenly cast as a black man because reasons. Meanwhile you've got gods of egypt casting white people as egyptian gods which is just as idiotic, but one of these is okay and one isn't.
In the books the USSR still exists. All the bonds SO FAR have been white. There was a time when all the bonds SO FAR had been Sean Connery.
I'm not saying give him to role BECAUSE he's back but the guy's a talented actor, talented actors should get parts.
>>44883702 makes a damn fine point but the industry in question may not like anything that depends upon new franchises with minority leads. That said his suggestion absolutely SHOULD be recognised.
OP: Cast him as a higher up general in the Imperial Army. The one who gets Bisected by Angron in the early novels before I just gave the fuck up on them. Flesh the character out in a few more scenes and when it comes time for his evisceration watch viewer perception of Angron drop right the fuck down to where it should be.
It's sad that we can't even mention a black guy without a memester popping up to push the envelope with his subversive brand of humor. Or worse yet, one of the sad fuckers who has mistaken shitposting for a genuine serge of support for his nutty ideas.
>People unironically believe that depiction
So does this imply GW wants a 2 hour movie of the very end Horus Heresy on screen ignoring everything from building how and why the characters are doing what they are doing? Because if they don't want a two hour skirmish between the traitor legions and loyalists where named characters appear only once with a title drop and then either get killed or kill somebody they should invest in an animated series or a mini-series to at least explain everything from Horus starting to fall to Magnus ruining everything until the emperor's inevitable almost-death.
>somebody implies the notion that it's possible to be racist against white people
>kneejerk accusations of "wah wah /pol/"
Faggot regressive detected.
>Just because he's only been white doesn't mean he has to be.
Yes it does. People don't randomly change the color of their skin overnight.
>There's no explicit statement or reason in the films that he's always white.
Except the fact that he has always been a white guy.
>Moneypenny was white and now she's black. Same principle.
What, stupid bullshit for the sake of an incredibly shallow form of "diversity"?
>but there is literally no reason bond has always been white in films other than the best choices for the character were white actors.
Except for the fact he was portrayed as white in the novels the films are based on
>Idris Elba would do a very good Bond
Idris Elba cannot be James Bond, in the same way Tom Cruise cannot be Martin Luther King. There is no doubt in my mind of Idris Elba's talent; he's one of my favourite actors. But he's not white, so he can't realistically play a white guy because it would require far too much suspension of disbelief to be feasible.
This is a very simple concept to understand, and the fact you can't understand it really makes me want to insult the absolute shit out of you, because you're acting like a fucking idiot, or a racist.
As far as the actual question is concerned, 40kids is fucking shit.
>>Moneypenny was white and now she's black. Same principle.
Not really. 'Moneypenny' is a job title. Black Moneypenny is a new character who took over the job, and inherited the title. Same as John Cleese taking over the role of Q from Desmond Llewelyn.
Now, it's entirely possible for the role of 007, the job, to change hands, especially now there's more continuity between films, but that would require James Bond to vacate the post.
James Bond is white. 007 doesn't necessarily have to be.
But let's face it, to most people they're called Bond movies, not 007 movies.
North Africa was a mishmash of Helenic, Latino (in the old sense which included almost all Mediterranean people from Europe's side), a little Black, Persian and everything else that had come and gone from that area. And Phoenicians were much akin to Greeks, so technically Latin.
>Well yes but wasn't Carthage originally a Phoenician colony?
It was pretty much all the time a phoenician trade city, thats why its inhabitants mostly looked like phoenicians, I don't understand the "but" here?
isn't the agent 007 always suppose to be a different guy, but he just changes his name to James Bond like all other 007s.
I mean, how can the guy change appearance every decade or so, but when the feature that changes is skin color, it suddenly makes no sense?
We get it, it's cool to be edgy and racist in high school. It's just dumb in adult land.
Well they were basically a population of mulattos that culturally favoured light skin over darker skin, given they looked down on the dark skinned nubians.
I don't know what you expect how dark skinned they should be, or how light skinned you belief modern egyptians are.
Well the Emperor could take the appearance of whatever the fuck he wanted, although he was born an Anatolian.
However I'd be completely down with Idris Elba playing the Emperor for his voice. Unlike a lot of actors, he sounds the part. Only actors I'd rate above him is Christopher Lee (dead) and uhhhh.
Honestly I don't really know of many actors who have a kingly, powerful voice who are still alive. Help me out /tg/.
There were nubian pharaos for a time, I don't know why you think this is representive of the egyptian population at any point in time.
Especially given they were portrayed far lighter skinned in all depictions depciting non-nubian pharoas and people, and explicitly called the nubians dark-skinned by comparison to themselves.
>Cast him as a higher up general in the Imperial Army. The one who gets Bisected by Angron in the early novels
Hang on, what book is this? I suppose it sounds like something he'd do, I can't see the world eaters being a popular legion to fight alongside if you're a squishy mortal.
OH NO YOU DIDN'T
Butthurt Night Lord confirmed. Wanna get rekt again son?
So Albus Dumbledore was 2 different characters? No, actors retired, decided not to reprise the role, or otherwise left the producers looking for someone else to play the character.
In case this isn't bait, that means fucking nothing.
By your logic, Greeks weren't white because of these pictures on their stuff.
Does this look like a whire person to you?
The right is how the egyptians depicted themselves and the guy who is third on the right how they saw nubians (black people), see the difference?
I have no doubt the statue depicts a negroid pharao, he's just wrong in assuming this was the average appearance of a egyptian pharao or indicated anything about what the population at large looked like.
I try not to respond to these posts but your misinformation has to be stopped.
Hannibal was a Phoenician, and Phoenicians were not negroids or dark-skinned. This isn;t the first time I have had to say this and it probably won't be the last time.
So how about you stop saying it? Contrary what your idol said about the matter, a lie said thousand times WON'T become a truth. And we don't say 'negroid' anymore, it's 2016 for fucks sake.
Well if he isn't going to look like Clint Eastwood they might as well cast a black guy. McConaughey and Bale is basically the only stars who looks the part, and both turned it down.
It's going to suck anyway because they're going overboard with the franchise stuff.
Scott Eastwood would the absolute best casting choice for the role. All you need to do is pepper him with a bit of make up to make him look older/wiser.
Anyway, changing the race of the character is foolish because 1) It's disingenuous for the sake of progress race politics, 2) Roland's blue preternatural eyes are mentioned a lot, and 3) it completely undermines the entire racial relationship between Detta and Roland in The Drawing of the Three.
Hey, you try spending 10,000 years working on making the prettiest dress so you can feel good about yourself, and then have an actual girl come into the picture.
More seriously, none of the primarchs should be female. That's just ridiculous, and it'll cause more problems than it's worth.
Are we talking Primarchs being female or being played by one? Because given how they aren't even really humans and are supposed to be somehow "supernatural beautiful" i'm kind of ok with let's Sanguinius being played by a chick.
No. Astartes most likely get an actual sexual-like high from killing because their brains are re-programmed. Killing in the Emperor's name floods them with dopamine, not to mention the cocktail of chemicals in their armor, which includes Space PCP.
There actually was buzz about a "blonde Bond" when he was announced. I agree, I'd prefer a dark haired white Brit for Bond, but there is an ocean of difference between a blonde white Bond and an African Bond. "