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Do any of you anon have this PDF? I'm in the mood for a laugh
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>>44862407
I want to be a strong independent witch who don't need no man(a).
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>>44862407
hell, id play that, if only to be a crazy witch determined to magically change dudes into chicks.
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>>44863946
Paul, put your goddamn pants back on I'm not running that kind of game again.
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This sounds hillariously bad.
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>>44864090

Scratch that, this game sounds like mind-numbing bullshit from what little i can find out about it on the internets. No one's even written a review as far as i can find.
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>>44864090
CARLOS
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"The enemy of all life on Earth, the Serpent has waged war against the life force of our planet, the mother goddess Gaia, for millennia. Using the weapons of ignorance, greed and hate it has turned humans against each other, polluted the world and threatens us daily with our own destruction.<o:p></o:p>

The Maga, powerful magical beings powered by Gaia and her multitude of goddess aspects, have other plans and will do whatever it takes to destroy the great serpent and its minions and return the world back to its long forgotten glory.

BELLUM MAGA is a role-playing game about a world of magic and conspiracies and a millennia-old war between the corrupt-Patriacracy and powerful female freedom fighters."

Only comment I can find on it is a single one in Swedish, of course, giving it "five stars."
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Man, the sequel to Witch Girls Adventures looks like shit
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http://abbysoto.deviantart.com/

The artist's DeviantArt, i'm predicting that it will be NSFW, as it is full of people getting turned into animals by witches. I think the author of this game may be a Furry/ Transformation fetishist.
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>>44864324
So it's literally Werewolf: the Apocalypse only with feminist witches fighting against the evil patriarchy instead of tree-hugging werewolves fighting against the evil corporations.
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>>44864324
> PS By "Serpent" we mean "Penis."

Oh boy.
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>>44863998
>again
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>>44862407
>binary gender norms and identities
>portrays struggle for equality as dualistic opposition between sexes
>Everyone on the cover is white

5/10 good intentions, but outdated
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Even in their own fantasy artwork they look boring, frumpy and ugly.
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If you want to play magic freedom fighter lesbians, you really can do it in any system.
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There is only one word to describe this game.
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>>44864410
>http://abbysoto.deviantart.com/
Good fucking god, it is literally ALL 'feminist' witches turning men into animals, soul-trapping them, shrinking them to ant-size and/or outright KILLING them.

One bit has the btich on the right turning what she says is "The best boyfriend she's ever had" into a rat because he wanted to go to a friend's stag night at a strip club.

This isn't even hilariously bad; it's just mindless hatred against anything with a dick.

And yeah as >>44864513 said, they just all look like the standard, boring, "This is what a feminist looks like."
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>>44863946
That's not even a joke. Look at her DA and you'll see that these witches love mind-raping and forcing men into women's bodies and minds, erasing their personalities for their own convenience.

Fuck me, I thought this variety of feminist was just an exaggerated rumor! I never expected they actually existed!
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Feminists just want equality I swear
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>>44864506

Sweden still requires anyone getting gender reassignment surgery to be sterilised before being allowed to get the surgery, right?

>>44864558
>Good fucking god, it is literally ALL 'feminist' witches turning men into animals, soul-trapping them, shrinking them to ant-size and/or outright KILLING them.

Not KILLING PEOPLE! Oh my stars and garters!
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>>44864558

This is fetish shit, dressed up in wicca-needs- a-daddy-figure-type babble. I was honestly expecting more Critical Theory spew.
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>>44865210
SECOND-wave feminism wanted equality, back in the 50s-70s, when there were legitimate complaints to be had and real inequalities. I have no problem with second-wave feminism.

We're currently seeing the 'third wave' that believes that equality isn't enough and now women need POSITIVE discrimination, or more overwhelmingly, that men need to be held back.

>>44865258
I've got no problem with death in RPGs, but this is literally just, "You don't agree with me or have an opinion I find offensive! Raaargh die under my foot!"

It's mindless man-hating and the same methods they seem to hate men for supposedly using and they can't see the bitter irony that nothing has progressed here; it's just that who holds the power has shifted. Lack of insight pisses me off.

Yeah, I'm angry a lot of the time.
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>>44865378
Eh, it seems more like some sort of power fantasy of a likely sexual nature than any true expression of hatred. If we start judging people by their fetishes on /tg/, there will be civil war without end.
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Translated the DriveThruRpg Review.

>RPGs should be different and this is .
>Although there are no errors, this book provides the
>A good concept and simple rules .

>The fact that the game is socially relevant only >makes it better and how it is presented
>Is both fantastic and serious .

>I can not wait for more !
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>>44866365
Careful anon that sounds like SJW behind a mask talk.
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>>44866634
More like I don't want to be guilty over liking transformation porno.
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>>44862407
>you stand before the gates of the city of Portland
>dare you enter my magical realm?
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>>44865134
These kinds of stereotypes always start somewhere.
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Will any brave and noble Anon buy the pdf and post it so we can all bask in this game's retardedness?
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>>44864558
So, Witchgirls for tumblrinas?
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>>44868168
I was thinking more of Witch Girls all grown up.
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>>44862407
Why were the two oper8rs on the cover stupid enough to get that close?
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>>44866649
First off, if you're psychologically weak enough that you can't enjoy your weird fetish shit if you think people might judge you for it, you might as well take a vow of chastity.
Now that that's out of the way, I think there's a psychological difference between transformation porn in general (which is more baffling than anything else to me, at least) and having bizarre, clearly psycho-sexual fantasies about humiliating, degenerating, and killing people for having views that are different than your own. The first is just fetish shit. The second falls somewhere in between "repressed anger issues" and "should be put on a watch list". Hatred, murder, and sexual arousal are not a good mix.
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>>44868654
Well fuck me for pressing post too early. Anyways: that whole "hatred, murder, and sexual arousal" cocktail gets even more creepy when you start tossing in ideology that suggests that massive segments of the population should be purged.
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>>44862407
Holy fuck it's tumblr the RPG.
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>>44868687
It's no different from this http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/5772445/
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>>44865378
>SECOND-wave feminism wanted equality
Kek
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We get it, crazy feminists are bad. Why do we have to talk about it all the time? If Varg can have his shitty racist RPG let the sexists have their shitty rpg
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>>44870557
>Why do we have to talk about it all the time?
Cuz >>44868654 and most people here are straight guys.
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>>44862407
Add it to the Unholy Trinity and call it a day.
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>>44870557
>We get it, crazy feminists are bad. Why do we have to talk about it all the time? If Varg can have his shitty racist RPG let the sexists have their shitty rpg
But Varg got flamed to hell and back, I'm not sure why this should be treated any differently. Stop trying to backseat moderate.

>>44864513
>Even in their own fantasy artwork they look boring, frumpy and ugly.
I think that's what gets me about this the most.
>>44864324
>Swedish
What happened to the Swedes?
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>>44864324
>a millennia-old war between the corrupt-Patriacracy and powerful female freedom fighters

So, the premise of the game is that powerful feminist witches have been actively fighting against patriarchy for thousands of years, and have absolutely failed in virtually every regard, across almost every culture and historical period since the dawn of man?

I wonder if they are aware of the irony.
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And when confronted with a reasonable, non-aggressive argument, she just says, "I won't debate with your kind of people." What kind is that then? The kind who aren't the worst variety of strawman and can actually compose a rational argument?

If /tg/ were that kind of board, I'd be declaring open season on her page right now, but frankly, she doesn't deserve the attention.

>>44868168
See, that looks relatively innocent. Not something I'd ever touch, but as an RPG for young girls, there could be worse choices. And it's not immediately attached to any agenda.

Bellum Maga, meanwhile, is purely there to push a social agenda. The fact that it is a game is purely incidental. Witch Girls might be terrible by its quality, but at least it wasn't designed that way from the ground up!

>>44871896
>I think that's what gets me about this the most.
But Anon, didn't you know that conventionally attractive women aren't natural? They're all just forced to look that way by the cultural oppression of men who treat them as sex objects and blah blah blah I think I just gave myself a headache...
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>>44864437
Well, feminists are at least more likable than hippies.
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>>44873178
>I wonder if they are aware of the irony.

Of course they aren't. Modern feminists have all the self-awareness of a mental patient on shrooms.

All they care about is that there's a CAUSE to be fought! And it's a cause that goes back THOUSANDS of years so clearly they've been fighting it that long in some glorious noble struggle! Oh and of course they have every advantage because womyn are strong when they aren't being oppressed by men- I mean the serpent! Plus that makes them so KEWL and role models for young feminists everywhere!

>>44873183
>Well, feminists are at least more likable than hippies.

Hey, that's debatable. At least hippies have good pot!
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>>44871896
Nobody posted MYFAROG just to laugh at it. It was recognized as shitposting and treated like shitposting. This "hurr let's complain about femynists" shit is the opposite of that.
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>>44871896
>What happened to the Swedes?
Not much to be honest. From what i can gather their feminazis are the same as ours... Really fucking loud
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>>44873273
ues, but varg never pretended he is anty-racist. More over he shows a shred of self awarness by making one of the evil fractions people who hold similar ideals to him, this shit is just a wank fest and shold be laughed at.
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>>44873213
>At least hippies have good pot
The fact that they are always stoned is one of the least likeable things about them.
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>>44873285
Have they castrated their heraldic lion yet?
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>>44866425
Seems like a swedish shill.
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>>44873273
To be fair this thread is shitposting too.Yes it is retards that don't know anything about feminism talking about feminism but it still shitposting that needs to be somewhere other than /tg/
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>>44864513
I'd probably do the one on the right. I'm a sucker for chubbies in corsets.

Also WTF is going on with the waist of the woman on the left. Damn SJWs can't even avoid Liefelding their own shit.
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>>44866365
I hope the war comes soon.
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>>44865134
>TFW I don't know if I want to be the little girl because secretly inside I am one or I was brainwashed to think this way.

Send help
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>>44862407
Is this like a sequel for Witch Girls Adventures?
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>>44873322
>don't know anything about feminism

mate you sound like a feminazi, and i considere myself a bloody feminist
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Jesus Christ in a whorehouse, try reading the opening fiction in the DTRPG preview. It's everything you thought that this is and more.
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>>44873369
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>>44873181
>But Anon, didn't you know that conventionally attractive women aren't natural? They're all just forced to look that way by the cultural oppression of men who treat them as sex objects
O-oh fuck. And my gay as hell sister just got herself a new super feminine style too. BRB telling her to gain some weight and get trigger glasses.
>>44873273
I do not see the difference.
>>44873360
>Is this like a sequel for Witch Girls Adventures?
It's the All Grown Up of WGA.
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>>44873355
You're over-thinking things. You have no evidence one way or the other, so all you can really do is find some happiness where you can.

Regardless of if you were born with one set of genitals or the other, you're still 'you', as far as you can tell, right? So try to smile and do and be what makes you happy.

Honestly, there's days I wish I was the little girl and I am literally the most hetrosexual person I know.
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>>44873390
>I don't see the difference between shunning shitposting threads and making them
Then you're actually stupid, congratulations.
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>>44873408
>Then you're actually stupid, congratulations.
Thanks for your contribution to this discussion.
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>>44873419
You replied to me before that, you know?
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>this thread
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>>44873430
>You replied to me before that, you know?
That doesn't matter now.
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>>44864513
And yet she still drew them with tits
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>>44862407

>YFW someone runs this game for a group of feminazis.
>YFW you will never know the intense, guttural satisfaction of watching a group of fembeasts try and fail over and over to end the patriachy.
>YFW you will never get to be the one that crushes their spirit, masturbating vigorously as the light of the pro-feminist movement dies in their eyes.
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>>44873477
You do realize that if they really are rabid feminists, and someone runs the game for them and deliberately sets them all up to fail, odds are that they'd blame him and quit the game (possibly after beating him up) rather than "seeing the light" and changing their beliefs? This is like saying that a bunch of /pol/lacks would change their beliefs because someone ran a game for them where they're white men trying to defeat the niggers and they fail.
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>>44873501
>TFW you don't know how to bait your players along and make them dance as your puppets.
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>>44873510
not the anon but the moment something gouse sideways they are going to rage, same thing happens with /pol/fags and any other echo-chamber group. One fuck up and you are in a world of "shitty DM, that wants us to fail and wont let us roleplay our cherecters and have fun"
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>>44873523
>Not knowing how to DM and dangle the carrot in front of the donkey.
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The saddest part about shit like this is that it calls itself feminism when it's really just prejudice. It's just a schlickfest for women who happen to hate men, and does absolutely nothing to address the actual issues that feminism is trying to tackle (like not being represented politically, facing sexual harassment and discrimination, or having their sexual choices and medical access restricted by male-dominated governments). Instead, they're women witches fighting with magic. Whoop-dee-fucking-doo.

This is not what feminism looks like. This is just shit, and the creator is shit. It's a shit game, but it's still a RPG and /tg/-related. It's misandrist's version of FATAL, so I guess roll for anal-rententiveness.
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>>44873531
maybe you are a beter DM than me, i never could manage it.
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>>44873543
How do you DM, anon? I always thought the crux of DMing was giving your players what they want after they've earned it, but adding complications as a result.
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>>44873531
>Not knowing how to DM and dangle the pizza in front of the landwhale

FTFY, especially for this game
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>>44873554
Im a rather harsh DM, i give the playing field, drop some hints and allow the characters to peace everything together by themselves and try to work it all out. Sure, ill fudge a roll or two in your favor, i sure as hell wont fudge my own rolls, but if your enemy rolls a 20 and headshots you, than i guess it was your time. If you cant figure out where to go after i give you all the tools and drop a few hints or what to do than im not going to just tell you, just drop a another hint. Also i belive that stats are for a reason and wont let you do anything that you dont have the stats for
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>>44873543
Reward character development with personal asides to make each of the players feel invested and interested, bonus points for intertwining it with main plot points. Then give them small, mounting, victories chained into increasing stakes and rewards over the course of a lengthy campaign.

Give them choices to sacrifice the things their characters hold dear to achieve their goals to ensure ideological commitment and make the hard won victories all the sweeter. Follow with a dramatic complete reversal from the cusp of complete victory and wipe out the remnants of what's important to them in the aftermath.

The fact that someone would bother is kind of depressing though.
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>>44873561

You just need to throw it at them, their mass is sufficient to generate a gravity field strong enough to have several pieces of junk food orbiting around them
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>>44873181
Witchgirls... isn't for young girls. Its pretty plainly transformation fetish shit. Just for you elucidation.
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>>44864437
So it's literally Werewolf: the Apocalypse if everyone played a Black Fury.
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So who is going to be the one to buy this shitty game so the rest of us can read the pdf? $5 for endless laughter guys
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>>44873322

I know what feminist theory is. Nice try, Shekelstina.
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>>44865378
>SECOND-wave feminism wanted equality
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>>44863935
Underrated.
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>>44864374
Aww. That's actually a really neat game; it's not even fetish material like a lot of people think, it's actually designed to be played by young girls to get them into the hobby.

Any experienced player can immediately see how to break the system in half without trying, but it's fun nonetheless. The System Mastery review was great.
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>>44865378
>SECOND-wave feminism wanted equality
Well, all waves of feminism have thought they want equality, or rather have wanted what they thought is equality.
It's another question entirely whether beliefs about 'patriarchy' and such have anything to do with reality. They don't, obviously.
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>>44874363
Oh god, well so much for what I said then.

>>44874718
>>44870484
In the mid-20th century, women genuinely weren't afforded as many opportunities as men. They couldn't get the same jobs or earn an equal wage; promotions were hard to get and they were genuinely expected to put out babies, stay home and make the dinner, etc.

There honestly WAS inequality and second-wave feminists (first-wave having been those who fought for the right to vote), were justified in fighting what was clearly a system that discriminated against women.

But they WON that fight and that won't do for MODERN feminists! The problem is, there's few if any inequalities left to fight in the developed world and like hell are they going to step out of their comfort zone to oppose, say, women being stoned to death for infidelity! No, it's much simpler to stay at home and make a fuss about stuff to get attention.
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>>44874552
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>>44874944
Witchgirls IS for young girls. People who say it isn't have only read select snippets. See >>44874803


/tg/ just assumes that everyone shares all their fetishes and codes them into everything ever made
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>>44875048

No, not really. The creator for it was HEAVILY into that part of the fetish community. It's hard to deny.
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>>44875001
>Shekelstina
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>>44873178
Infantilizing women is one of the core concepts of modern feminism.
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>>44874944
>The problem is, there's few if any inequalities left to fight in the developed world
I usually ignore this bullshit going nowhere posts, but I'm gonna make an exception here.
Saying "there is no more inequalities" is like saying "Racism is over".
It's a damn lie, because the only achievement made is that the inequality isn't encoded in the laws anymore, it's in people's heads, far more insidious and far harder to do anything about.
Even then, it would be less of a problem if it wasn't a thing that preconceptions influence choices and actions when dealing with the person you have already formed an opinion of.
>I wouldn't even care about your post if there wasn't people who actually wholeheartedly believe that since the shit isn't in front of their eyes anymore, it must not exist
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>>44864324
>The Serpent
>Patron of the arts, technology, civilization, martial honor, and progress
>Gaia
>Hippy dippy "it's good because it's natural, maaan!" bullshit
I want to run this game for a group of feminists, only so that the forces of the serpent can develop artificial wombs and ectogenesis, kill all women, and end with an epilogue where mankind (literally) has become a race of ubermenschen that has spread across the stars, having their way with fair alien damsels.
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>>44875061
Malcolm Harris was, but there's nothing fetishy about WGA (even the art of people being polymorphed isn't sexualized at all, and neither are any of the girls, which is frankly an impressive feat for any RPG).

The book on it's own stands as fetish-free. It's only if you read up on the author and start looking for it that you can say that anything ties back to a fetish, and even then it's G rated.
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>>44875121
Well, modern society is trying to infantilize everyone.

It's just easier to do it to a class of people who are shielded from pretty much every level of hardship as a matter of course.

"It's never ok to hit a girl."
Parents are more attentive to a female child's cries for attention.
Female concerns, at all ages, are taken more seriously than male ones.
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>>44874944
i thought the problem was the "3rd wave feminism" has so many different sections. Like you have the ones who are like "I want to have as equal opportunities as men to be successful in a capitalist society and then not give a shit about the lower classes" and "muh wage gap", and then you have others who are like maybe the experience of a poor black women is different to that of a rich white women or an asian man that society sees as less masculine.
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>>44874944
>and they were genuinely expected to put out babies, stay home and make the dinner, etc.
Are you implying there's anything wrong with this?
Gender roles aren't bad, anon.

>>44875188
>oh boohoo someone is nervous around me because everyone else with the same skin tone as me did X
Stereotypes exist for a reason, namely that they are backed up by data on the whole.
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>>44875205
As it should be! Women are more fragile than men on the whole, and there's nothing wrong with wanting to protect them.
Also, if you're too weak to safely restrain a girl whose having a tantrum, you need to get your shit together

It's expected that men be tougher and more resilient, and for good reason too; whining about every little problem you have until it gets resolved just turns you into a selfish prick, while internally dealing with and making peace with minor problems (or solving them on your own) prepares you for the bullshit of modern life and gives you the ability to keep trucking through it.
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>>44875246
>Gender roles aren't bad, anon.
I'm saying that people deserve a choice. Women in the 50s and 60s didn't get that choice.

>>44875233
You have a point, but the latter is, if not the minority, then at least MASSIVELY drowned out by the much more vocal elements that seem to believe 'equality' is getting the same result for everyone, rather than providing the same opportunities.
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>>44875246
gender roles out of choice arent bad, but when its your only option its bad

">oh boohoo someone is nervous around me because everyone else with the same skin tone as me did X
Stereotypes exist for a reason, namely that they are backed up by data on the whole."
ridiculous oversimplification
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>>44875293
>quotation marks
Who are you and why are you here?
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>>44875286
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRO55KG_2ic

The gender sentencing gap is 8 times the size of the racial gap.
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>>44875233
>muh wage gap

I wish they would be called out as the liars they are every time they bring this up.

There is no way to make that 'gap' go away without using the government to force women to do high paying jobs and force men to do more low paying jobs. Which should be abhorrent to anybody with a functional brain.
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>>44875291
>I'm saying that people deserve a choice. Women in the 50s and 60s didn't get that choice.
And they did have a choice; they could still work, couldn't they? They just had to work harder to dispel the stereotype of women (which has a basis in reality). Really, it was a great system all around.
If you didn't want to be a housewife, show everyone you were damn good at something else!
Didn't stop Grace Hopper now didn't it?

>>44875293
>ridiculous oversimplification
How so? all stereotypes are ultimately based in reality.
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>>44875363
But you admit then that there is a wage gap, because in the higher paid jobs here in the UK, there most definitely is.
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>>44875363
People have been calling them out on it for 40 years now.

It's actually reversed in the unmarried 20-something age demographics. That's still not enough for feminists to shut up about it.
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>>44875286
never understood this argument. Why is it considered a good thing to keep trucking through life? All these people complaining, its not like they can't get through life, they do it everyday otherwise they wouldn't be here, its just they experience things they don't like about the way society does things, and they don't want their future selves and others like them to experience those things.
Stop thinking that other people experience the world in the same way as you, that a certain problem seems like a minor inconvenience to you and therefore anyone who complains about it must be a selfish little prick.
stop stoically sitting by and taking lifes dick in the ass and then congratulating yourself for how tough you are for taking it everyday.
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>>44875396
The gap is entirely due to women choosing different jobs, being less willing to do over time and being less willing to chase promotions. Women are also far less willing to do dangerous and demanding jobs like deep sea fisherman or oil rig worker. So why should they be rewarded for being less willing to go further for higher pay?

They want to get the same pay as men on AVERAGE without doing the same jobs on average which is self entitled sexist hypocrisy.
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>>44865378
>We're currently seeing the 'third wave' that believes that equality isn't enough and now women need POSITIVE discrimination, or more overwhelmingly, that men need to be held back.

Which is ironic because it's essentially making the case that women aren't capable enough to make well for or combat inequality themselves.
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>>44865378
There are a few things that could still be changed for the better. My sister-in-law makes less as an engineer than men that have the same position and have been there the same amount of time. That's bullshit.
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Also businesses are not all run by idiots, if you could actually pay 15% less for individual jobs just because they are female and for no other reason then nobody would hire men if they had the choice.
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>>44875470
Actually, we're currently in the age of something called "post-feminism". It stresses individuality and is a lot less extreme than the third-wave e.g. if a certain woman is married and happy, it doesn't necessarily mean that she's been brainwashed by the patriarchy into thinking that
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>>44875426
>Why is it considered a good thing to keep trucking through life?
Because nobody will ever agree on everything, and everything needs to work if society is going to work. Everyone having a certain level of tolerance and saying "fuck it, I don't like it, but it really doesn't matter" is instrumental for everyone to be able to get along.

>Stop thinking that other people experience the world in the same way as you, that a certain problem seems like a minor inconvenience to you and therefore anyone who complains about it must be a selfish little prick.
>stop stoically sitting by and taking lifes dick in the ass and then congratulating yourself for how tough you are for taking it everyday.
No, you selfish little prick. Maybe you should stop caring about your damn fee-fee's so much.
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There are a lot of actually good arguments to have about the wage gap. For example, women tend to take breaks in their careers to raise their families, while men don't; even if the woman can get back into the exact same job she had when she left, her old colleagues have had 1-3 years to get ahead, get raises and bonuses, and make connections up the ladder. Similarly, women tend to be a lot stricter about 'work to the hour' while men tend to 'work to the job'; this leads to the idea that men are the hard workers and go-getters, and they are more likely to be viewed positively, entrusted with responsibilities, and generally given those advantages. Women also choose to go into lower-paying fields (and there's a discussion about whether things like nursing and teaching are lower-paid because people think of them as women's work, so the job itself is undervalued no matter who is doing it).
http://mikerugnetta.tumblr.com/post/123692342020/hey-mike-just-saw-your-latest-video-i-really

None of those debates can be had if the only thing being said is, 'Women are getting paid less than men because sexism!' The only response to that is, "Let's jack up women's pay." Now that there's enforced equal pay, it's time to have those discussions.
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>>44875382
>How so? all stereotypes are ultimately based in reality.
they are based on part of the story, boiled down and without context and subtlety. I think we should look at the reasons and the history behind them and not accept them uncritically.
e.g.
>black people are criminals
stereotype based in statistics, but you can just say oh yeah black people are inherently criminal or you can look at the complex history of black people leading to them living in poor inner city areas, disenfranchised, being over-policed (war on drugs), and thus more likely to be criminals.
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>>44875529
>or you can look at the complex history of black people leading to them living in poor inner city areas, disenfranchised, being over-policed (war on drugs)
They're criminal from the get go and that's why the inner city areas are poor, why they're disenfranchised, and why the police police them so much?
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>>44875485
>No, you selfish little prick. Maybe you should stop caring about your damn fee-fee's so much.
nah
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>>44875546
But you can see the same thing going on is shitty inner city areas throughout history. Pea-souper London was as rough as modern Chicago, so was 70's New York even in white-dominated areas. Lots of people crammed together with little money or prospects breeds crime.
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>>44875580
Be that as it may, and history nonwhitstanding, criminals are criminals regardless of their racial history. Giving a criminal a break because of the color of their skin because "oh, his people have had it rough" is racism.
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>>44875580
People still develop past it through their own work.
The Irish, Jews, Chinese, Slavs, etc, etc all went through the same and worst in American cities and throughout history.
Now tell yourself who is the odd man out of every single disenfranchised class throughout history that hasn't managed to get their shit together?
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>>44875546
thats pretty messed up man.
For starters inner city areas are usually poorer regardless of who lives there.

The point is you CAN take the view that other races are inherently inferior. There is nothing i can do, no logical argument i can make to convince you otherwise, and there is nothing you can do to convince me that that way of seeing things is not wrong. but depending which side you take determines how you view the stats.
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>>44875624
nobodies saying they should be given a break, they should just be given equal sentencing.
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>>44875673
Again, statistics are statistics and criminals are criminals.
Going easy on someone because of the hardships of their forefathers is wrong.
Theft is still theft, and should be punished as such, even if it's a starving orphan stealing bread for himself.
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>>44875693
But they are. It just so happens that many blacks are also repeat offenders, and thus get longer sentences.
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>>44875641
How many of those groups did the US gov't actively move against whenever a leader arose to push a agenda?
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>>44875701
>even if it's a starving orphan stealing bread for himself.
Indeed, and those should get much harder sentencing than powerful people stealing to buy their second yacht!
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>>44875763
>Indeed, and those should get much harder sentencing than powerful people stealing to buy their second yacht!
Powerful people can pay the bail, can pay the fine, can pay the lawyers, and are all together more useful to society than starving orphans.
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>>44875740
>But they are
Department of Justice statistics say otherwise, anon.
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>>44875775
>the powerful and corrupt should get kids gloves BECAUSE they are powerful and corrupt
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>>44875641
The Jews are only sort of an example in this case, since their oppression/"getting their shit together" happened centuries earlier. Jews in the Middle Ages were shoved into "inner cities" (in fact, they invented the concept of the "ghetto"), which markedly did not cause them to turn into crime and instead turned them into an insular society of racist scholars which eventually took over everything. In 20th century America, they were hardly oppressed.
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>>44864324
But how's the gameplay?
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>>44875811
In 20th century america, people still had a pretty obvious prejudice against them. Basically every major player in 20th Century american politics and business has some quote about them not liking jews.
Nothing like deathcamps and whatnot, but they were still pretty hated, like they have been in basically every host country ever.
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>>44875780
Repeat offenders, more violent crimes, etc.

>>44875796
BECAUSE they can return to society orders of magnitude more than the harm they caused*
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>>44864324

>"The Serpent"

How very subtle
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>>44875839
They're corrupt. What do you think they're not going to do?
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>>44875839
Really? Because here they just keep stealing from us, crashing the economy, and going on vacation while the rest of us pay to keep it going.
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>>44875673

Not the anon you're talking with, but there is one thing that, to my mind, proves the inequality of the races beyond any doubt.

IQ tests designed to control for disparities in education and wealth -always- rank blacks generally lower than whites, Asians, or Native Americans. The only racial group they consistently do better than are Australian Aborigines. In fact, the bell curve distribution for blacks tends to only overlap about 70% of those of the higher-scoring races Research has shown time and time again that criminal tendencies, or at least the tendency to commit more easily solvable crimes, are stronger among the less intelligent.

TL;DR- Blacks tend to be less intelligent than whites and Asians, and less intelligent people are more prone to commit crime.
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>>44875755
When did any of those groups even have big racial movement leaders?
The US govt has always tried to shut down any large protest movement of any kind.
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>>44875839
I sure hope you're a powerful and corrupt person anon, because it would be sad as hell to see a poorer person doing this sort of apologism ON BEHALF those people.
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>>44875880
>>44875901
>powerful people are always corrupt
buttmad poorfags detected.
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>>44875916
>Yes, yes, all of the proletariat must rise up against the bourgeois!
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>>44873538
>Implying that there's only one form of feminism
>Implying that there aren't misandrist feminist schools of thought
>Implying any academic, sociological, or philosophical school is a monolith
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>>44875919
Who are you quoting?
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>>44875950
:^)
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>>44875188
Okay, so what do you want to do? Legislate all of the bad thoughts you don't like away? That's not very liberal of you.
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>>44875988
The left isn't liberal.
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>>44875907

To expand upon this, the bell curve for blacks isn't as wide as that of other races, meaning that the tendency to test to the mean of their distribution is stronger.

I am not saying there aren't very smart blacks and very stupid whites. There clearly are. But a very smart black (90th percentile) tends to only be as smart as an above average white (70th percentile).
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>>44875907
>IQ
>Meaning anything

You can do better than this stormfront
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>>44866365
>>If we start judging people based on their fetishes

Do you not?
I've already set a plan in motion to firebomb every vore lover, every body modification lover and every... well basically anyone who has any fetishes from /d/ or /aco/ out of existence.
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>>44875988
>>44876005

Lemme help you guys out a little. You're talking about the left (as opposed to the right) as though it is the only axis. It works kind of like alighnment (this is /tg/, so...), in that there is also at least one other axis that holds, and that is authoritarian/libertarian.

The part of the left that wants to legislate away all bad thoughts is as authoritarian as the part of the right that wants to force the entire world to march to the US drum.

Libertarian lefties tend to be pretty radical in their beliefs, but also willing to accept the beliefs of others as equally valid. Libertarian righties tends to be pretty radical as well, and they seem to be most interested in keeping government from telling people what to do.

Remember, tumblr-tier "there is something wrong with you because you're a cist het white man" is left, but also very authoritarian. That kind of thinking is why hate speech is a crime.
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>>44876081

I have never been to stormfront. Traditional IQ tests are garbage. The ones I am talking about are computational speed and reasoning-based, which are very, very good predictors of performance in life. Just look up the research.

A lot of the scientists in the field have publically wondered what the impacts of their research will be, or if it's fact that will be helpful to know, because it is on its face so divisive. Even people like Christopher Hitchens said that they thought it will challenge a lot of long-held equality dogma.
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Not the OP, but is anyone brave enough to clean and upload this? I want to see how this compares to RaHoWa or Myfarog (Papyrus, Papyrus everywhere).

Still find it refreshing that agenda-driven RPGs aren't just a right-wing thing though.
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>>44876114
Yes, there is a second axis.

But there is no such thing as a libertarian modern leftist.

The modern left is all about increasing state power, even at a less objectionable level of increasing taxes for welfare spending. Welfare has destroyed Europe and American Blacks, and is destroying the rest of America.

Libertarianism is about volunteerism. Taxation is antithetical to a Libertarian stance, because a Government is force.

This is masked, in most modern societies, with the illusion of democracy. Democracy is foiled by the dozens of alphabet soup agencies which are not elected, and which can make policy without public input.
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>>44876084
Wow rude.
Are xenophiles safe?
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>>44868168
>"A drama game of magic and mischief"

Shit, that sounds fun. The art is also leagues better. This game has just left a good first impression on me.
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>>44876114
>>44876232
>2 axis political graph
I want this meme to stop; these are better than that shitty compass test.
http://www.abtirsi.com/quiz2.php
http://www.politicaltest.net/en

Also, there's an axis for every political issue. Turns out real politics can't be described by two axis in any meaningful way
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>>44875971
/thread

Hopefully 2016 will see the end of weebdom
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>>44876232
>But there is no such thing as a libertarian modern leftist.

Oh I completely agree. I just mean that it exists in the abstract, whether there are people that currently fit the bill or not.
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>>44875950

you know the oldest lie in America? That power can be innocent.
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>>44875837
poland, cech republic and i belive ukrain like thier jews for the most part
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>>44875919
They specified CORRUPT rich people, shitbrain. Or do you think that all wealthy people are perfect images of morality?
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>>44876114
I'm not thick. I'm just sick and tired of people saying "left" and "liberal" like thy mean the same thing.
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>>44876232
So you're saying that all Libertarians MUST be anarchists? Because in that case, guess I'm not a Libertarian.
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>>44876232
>literally an anarchist
>force is bad guys mmk
Sure thing, kid.
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>>44876232
> I don't understand the difference between "no government" and "minimal government"

Enjoy your infrastructure.
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>>44876914
Social Darwinism, son. The rich deserve to be rich. Every last one.
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>>44876281
Yeah, but then you open it and it's all thinly disguised TF fetish porn.
With a clean and simple magic system. If they took out all the fluff comics that explained the setting, this would not only be great for little girls trying to get into RPGs, but also one of the best modern fantasy RPGs on the market. I really want to play this game.
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>>44868168
>mfw I was hoping I could save this thread from political shitposting by reviving the fun shitstorm we first had when Witch Girls first came to light
>then I wake up to this bullshit thread
I fucking tried, guys
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>>44877200
You get an A for effort, Anon.
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>>44877200
Honestly the politics was more interesting to read than any comments about that other game.
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>>44876084
You are both rude and vanilla and I can't decide which is worse.
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>>44877289
Good intentions don't pay bills.
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>>44877363
Not him, but there is literally nothing wrong with vanilla; different strokes for different folks, after all.

Except for footfags; footfags deserve nothing less than absolute extermination.
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>>44862407
If I'm gonna TT a Magical Realm, I'll just find a way to TT Corruption of Champions.

>pic mostly related
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>>44877406
I'll give you that.
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>>44875476
And also isn't true and is illegal. If she was really making less, she could file a lawsuit against her employer and walk away with a nice fee according to law. Please, fuck off.
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>>44875476
>living in a third world country and/or believing that this is legal

grow a brain senpai
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>>44875476
How long are her lunch breaks?
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>>44877447
Unless she works at a place where salaries are negotiated. A company I worked alongside was like that. The salary range was kinda bizzare, as what you were paid was based off of what you were able to negotiate during pre-hire and then the shitty raises everyone got over time. The pay discrepancies were largely based off of short term need, so if the section you were looking to move into needed your skill /right then/ you could bleed HR for all kinds of cash. If the requirement wasn't as critical or if you were shit at negotiation then you'd be paid a lot less.

It made sense but led to situations where utter assclowns were making DOSH while really competent people, while doing okay, were paid a great deal less.
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>>44864454
>>44875855
These. Whoever wrote that should be shot desu.
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>>44865378

I'd say it's more that the actual legitimate feminism is lower-key nowadays, but the loud crazies have remained loud and so dominate the perception of anyone who self-identifies as a feminist.
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>>44863935
Huehauehauhea you motherfucker!
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>>44875196
Why you hate women anon?
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>>44876084
What about people who have fetishes and never went to /d/ or /aco/?
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>>44875482
HAH.
I wish that was true.
It isn't.
>it doesn't necessarily mean that she's been brainwashed by the patriarchy into thinking that
it does for all of tumblr.
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>>44877925
I don't hate women, anon; I just wish they'd shut up and go back to being sandwhich and baby factories.
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>>44878064
Tumblr is not an example of current academic feminism, anymore than /pol/ is an example of current academic racism, Christian thought, masculine philosophy or capitalism. It's angry teenagers spouting memes and scapegoating society for their misery all over.
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>>44878190
>current academic feminism
have you actually looked at the "academic" uni protests in november/december?
have you?
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>>44862407
this just makes the bullshit /pol/ gets up look like a less cringe worthy responce to an even bigger pile of bullshit
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>>44878190
Yeah, when academic feminism still has students who organize to censor speech instead of debating ideas. When academic feminism still disrupts speakers they don't like by pulling fire alarms, standing up and chanting and yelling as opposed to reasoning and, again, debating. When all of that goes on and "feminist academics" don't do shit to stop it, but instead provide their tacit approval, then we have every right to associate the worst parts of Tumblr with academic feminism.
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>>44873322
Fuck right off to your hugbox in Misou
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>>44878372
>Misou
Fucking embarrassment. If it had just been students acting stupid and protesting, I wouldn't have said shit. But when you've got professors out there inciting violence against journalists just trying to cover the event?

Yeah, I'm so glad that when I was an undergraduate the soft disciplines weren't as pants on head retarded as the ones today. Doubly glad that I respec'd to STEM.
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>>44878190
>academic feminism
>academic
...you're aware that that has no relevance in the real world, right?
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>>44878460
National defunding of liberal arts programs when?
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>>44878088
Will we go back to being animalistic killing machines?
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>>44878319

It's not like politicised academics of any kind have much of a higher ground. Hell as far as I'm concerned at least the teens, in both cases, have the excuse of being young and stupid.
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>>44878502
>meme image
>implying Misou doesn't show everything that's wrong with identity politics

>>44878520
I don't think the 50's were that violent, anon.
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>>44878513
It's sad, because a good classical education is a force multiplier. My Philosophy BA was incredibly useful in my last job. I worked along side techs and engineers, some worked for me, some I worked with, and part of my task was explaining technical shit to private managers and public contract holders. Years of reading dense as fuck philosophy and turning it into something easily understandable made the job a snap.

So when I meet other LA majors who are just utter shit, I get so pissed. For as much as I recognize that LA can bring a lot to the table, I similarly recognize that most places that have an LA focus are just cancerous.

As a philosophy guy I have to say, yeah, defunding liberal arts makes sense.
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>>44878546
You're right, teens do have an excuse. Hell, I'd extend the license to say and think dumb shit into the early-to-mid twenties. The academics that support shitty behavior, though? The academics that don't try to teach their students that that sort of behavior is inappropriate? Yeah, fuck them.
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>>44878601
>you will never open a university with a focus on truly classical education + modern STEM
Time to get rich
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>>44878699
Fuck. That place would be fucking amazing.
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>>44862407
>Do any of you anon have this PDF? I'm in the mood for a laugh
Sooooooo... nobody got it?
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So anyone here watches Sargon of Akkad? He's a fun guy
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>>44878956
I've watched Sargon the chuck of Akkad
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>>44878956
Sargon is ok; his videos are entertaining, but I disagree heavily with his politics; who would have thought that a right authoritarian disagrees with a left libertarian :^)

His livestream with Milo and IA/Merkotur/Jim was amazing, though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNXWhFTUPE4
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>>44878548
>Being this stupid
>Thinking everything to do with the movement is like Misou
>>44878956
Sargon of Retard.
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>>44879156
>lol ur stupid
Thanks for the comment, dear.
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>Shitstorm of a presidential election
>Politics overtaking every non-STEM class I take.
>No end in sight.
I am dreading the start of the new semester, this college is a goddamn madhouse.
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>>44879273
Where are you anon?
I hope you aren't in Cali
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>>44879273
>taking US history
>Professor is a proper liberal
>somehow manages to remain impartial and objective when talking about civil rights and injuns
>despite the class being half full of Women of Crime.
Feels good.
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Ebin
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>>44877052
So if I get rich by murdering rich people with a shotgun and taking all of their money, that's justified, because I'll have a bunch of paper? That's an unbelievably retarded view of morality.
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>>44879293
Your hopes are appreciated but in vain, I am in the CSU system. As a whole CSUs tend to be less political than the UCs, but that speaks more about the UCs than the CSUs.
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>>44878601
as someone in the biological field i would disagree, most country dont have a problem with over founding but overcrowding. Today everyone has to have a degree and everyone has to finish a course. Its rather obvious that the stupider people will gravitate to easier college courses (no offense). This in turn makes stupider professors. Rebuild the working class, make people proud of their jobs and stop the schools saying that you need to go to a university or you will be worthless trash and a hobo-junkie. This kills the SJW and /pol/fag. In the less overcrowded places you have ideological extremists but not fanatics that cant hold a conversation and all is well
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Transformation fetishist here. Aside from potential tg scenarios, this looks pretty uninteresting. Straight animal tf does not ignite my loins.

Ask me anything about my wierd ass fetish.
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>>44876232
>Welfare has destroyed Europe and American Blacks
Dear faggot. You're libertarian so I understand you don't really know much about history or political theory.

But welfare didn't destroy the American blacks, it was gulag'ing them in the 80s for drugs they got from the CIA, governmental infiltration and destruction of civil rights organizations, and ultimately exploitation from corporate America that destroyed the black society in America.

You see, welfare doesn't impact productive happy workers. You don't go on welfare when you work a full-time factory job with a future; you go on welfare when some rich faggot with your ideology moves your job to China so you can exploit their shitty workers' rights there. Even if someone stops working because welfare is more profitable, that indicates that the worker is underpaid; not that the unemployed are overpaid.

People act surprised when poverty emerges from transforming sharecroppers into factory workers and then move the factories away. These same assholes probably worship the rich for being "job creators" despite the fact that said assholes only exist by owning something run for the masses in order to sell to the masses.
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>>44877052
>this is what people still believe
Social Darwinism is not only obsolete and wrong. Its hilariously bad at covering the asses of the rich because all you really need to do is apply violence.

I'd like to see the rich actually fight the poor that got built in the factories and fields. Didn't turn out so good for the landlords of the soviet union.
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>>44879413
I don't disagree with what you're saying. Credentialism is a huge problem. While it'd be a great thing if everyone was highly educated, it should not be /necessary/ for everyone to have a degree.

But the fact that people have been sold and bought into a narrative that states you can't do shit without a 4 year degree has created a state where, for the most part, you really can't have a satisfying life, economically speaking, without a 4 year degree.

I don't know how to reverse that trend, though, as it stems from overinflating the value, or at least the necessity, of higher ed while simultaneously undervaluing trades and other traditional paths to comfortable middle-class living.
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>>44880092
Congrats, you realized our society has been designed to dismantle the middle class in favor of professional of the elite class and the working poor. We're gravitating back to the medieval social structure.
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>>44880154
I'm not sold on the designed part, as I'm leery of conspiracy theories as a general rule. I do agree tough that, regardless of whether its intentional or not, the system as it exists is hostile to both a mobile citizenry and a robust middle class.
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>>44880262
The problem is that it isn't a conspiracy theory. Lobbying and deregulation have played a part in the things you complain about and those are entirely products of the owner class engineering society.

There is no coincidence that since Reagan real wages keep falling despite record profits and pay raises for owners.
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>>44880092
I allredy told you how to reverse this trend. Fix the schools, this will fix the next generation and force the capitalist to change their way of doing things
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>>44880328
i think you are going a bit overboard. Whille i agree that the ttop 1% are making more and more of a powerplay they have nothing to gain from dismanteling the middle class, and a lot to gain if they integrate the proletariat/prekariat with the middle class. Remember these guys are all about making that $$$, nothing more, and the middle class are the people giving it to them.
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>>44879936
Black people are basically living in a modern day Tammany Hall situation because of welfare.

The fall of black people in america coincides with the flooding of cheap labor from Latin America that happened in the late 20th Century that completely outcompeted black unskilled labor and still out competes black unskilled labor.
With cheaper labor taking the jobs and welfare coming in to latch black people onto the democrat teat is what ruined American blacks. Drugs were a part of that but nowhere near the importance of flooding the job market with Hispanics.
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>>44880523
The thing that destroyed black is a lack in goverment job programs and the systematic filtration of skilled/talented individuals. No one who broke out of detroit will want to go back to detroit to make it a beter place because they did not go for 5 or more years to uni just to return to a street equivalent of vietnam. Your govermant needs to start creating jobs for well educated people there so they can nudge the economy forward and in turn start creating demand for working class labour. Welfare has nothing to do with it, lack of jobs and the ability to get financial support when creating worker owned buisses in low income citys is what is destroying the blacks
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>>44879303
so that's what POC stands for
People Of Crime
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>>44880616
People have tried. Do you understand what happens to business in the ghetto? They get vandalized, robbed and run out very quickly. It's not that nobody has tried or that there isn't enough encouragement, it's that the people there simply don't think far enough ahead to NOT rob their local bodega or whatever.
You can't make these kind of places flourish because it's an incredibly self defeated culture. Poor black people literally hate watching other black people do well. I've grown up in these kinds of neighborhood and this is what it's like. modern black culture is so self destructive and entitled that nothing will get done in these communities until that culture changes.
You don't know my country nor the situations in it.
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>>44880616
you'd have to be crazy to go live in central detroit.
even for a cushy gov job
it's the crime capital north of the rio grande
you can't own a fire arm worth it's salt to defend your self
it's a wastland so no fun nights out and the schools your kids will be bussed to are shit

it would be like saying " hey I'm going to put you in harms way, fuck up the future of your kids and maybe get one of your loved ones raped. But you get an extra 5k a year so be a sport"
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>>44880748
I lived in the USA for 5 years mate, and indeed took a lot of shit from the darkies there. But here is the thing, if you dont do something you are dooming a bunch of populations to peaty much life and death in a crime ridden shit hole. Now what i would have done is send need violent police officers armed with non-lethal weapons (meaning they gut guns, but with rubber bullets) and tell them "establish dominance", because from what i have read about black poverty is that they are not afraid to die (i mean the gangs and violent individuals, not the people as a whole), but they are very afraid of being some ones bitch. This is one problem where the soft american left is useless indeed. But to fix the problem you need both the hard hand of the state and the soft touch of welfare and government job-creation. This is why neither the republicans nor liberals are able to solve theses problems, both sides are giving only one part of the formula
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>>44880879
give them trump gang bangers love trumps bling perhaps he's the new savior of the urban black population.

also /tg/ does politics better then /pol/
for instance no one has asked for the nuking of major urban centers jet, or the genocide of whole population groups
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>>44880879
Not who you've been going back and forth with, but its worth noting that there is a world of difference between Detroit and anywhere else in the US. Detroit is so far gone it may very well be unreclaimable. Large swaths of cityscape and urban land are abandoned, and are abandoned enough that feral animals and plantlife are taking the place back.

Law enforcement will just straight not go anywhere that isn't metro or directly metro adjacent. It's honestly worse than the Verhoeven's Robocop, and borders on out and out dystopia.
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>>44880924
yes because unlike /pol/, /tg/ tends to know it's shit and not be populated by 14 year olds
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>>44880978
sooooo, deply judge units? Sorry iv got nothing, did not know that it was so much a dead city, but you can still use my aproach in other places
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>>44863946
It's called ensqualmation
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>>44881074
Only way to fix Detroit at this point is to fence it in and wait 10 years for everyone to kill each other. After that, you send colonists into the Zone to rebuild and collect mixtape artifacts
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>>44881238
wouldent that creat B.L.A.C.K.S.T.E.R.S?
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>>44881238
>Trump becomes President
>thanks 4chan for meme support
>gives Detroit to the united boards of 4chan
>so the 1st /k/rusade starts
>and so form far they came taking the sign of the /k/ube
>and they took that town by storm
>ranks apon ranks of larper, bookclubs, /k/ommandos charging bayonet down, battle waifus and the /pol/iticaly inspired cannon fod..... er "schock troops"
>that is the day m00t vile was made of memes and dank dubbs

is it just me or has it stated to smell of cosmoline?
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>>44881347
>trump
>giv-

you know what, im not going to take the bait
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>>44880663
I thought it was 'picker of cotton"
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>>44881413
okay
President Trump limmited gives a 50 year lease and can keep al improvements made to said real estate. fllowed by 15 pages of fine print
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>>44881043
and yet you're here
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>>44881647
you're a bit late with the insult you know, i doubt the guy is even here
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>>44880924
>for instance no one has asked for the nuking of major urban centers jet, or the genocide of whole population groups

To be fair, that is the easiest solution conceptionally, but it's the equivalent of cutting off an arm when you break a bone.
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>>44878227
I feel bad for this guy ;_;
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>>44878548
Crime rates were higher across the board in the 50's.
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>>44882389
Why?
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>>44884380
This, the good old days that conservatives dumbasses talk about and want to go back to were not really that great.
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>>44873178
look at this face
this is the face of hate
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>>44884380
>>44884672
Inner cities are always shit, it doesn't matter if they're more shitty back then.
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>>44864558
I posted a few comments like 'are they getting killed' and was blocked
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>>44884839
What part of "across the board" don't you understand? Inner cities, cute little box suburbia with John and Jane Smith and their 2.3 kids, the lovely, rustic rural areas: all of them had higher crime rates.
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>>44885406
America hating liberal propaganda pushed by the communists (which McCarthy warned us about, by the way).

Don't you know how this works?
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>>44884839
Things are better now than when conservative morons had their way. The shit /pol/ wants is not only wrong now but it it was wrong back then too.
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>>44885525
>conservative morons
Careful, your oppression is showing.
QQ more fuccboi.
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>>44885569
I bet you wish those mean oppressing facts would go away. But they will not and you will have to deal with the real world.
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>>44875491
Or to put it another way, pic related.
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>>44876084
>having never heard of burnplay
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>>44875775
I disagree. Starving children have less voracious appetites.
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>>44885966
Drowned in liquid nitrogen
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>>44882242

As the size of a fire increases, the number of problems it cannot solve decreases.
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