ITT: settings or genres you've never seen done together, but would like to.
I'm not sure how it would work, but I would love some wuxia + cosmic horror.
Not wuxia, but I know there are collaborations by Japanese writers using Lovecraft's themes. It is called "Lairs of the Hidden Gods". I believe one story features a samurai lord fending off cultist missionaries.
First thing that came to mind is the Trigan Empire, you might like it. I don't think it's especially Hellenistic, but it's a start.
WWI + Low Fantasy
How would trench warfare be with dragons and shit?
It's right on the cover. And it is set almost right after.
This one doesn't get enough love.
Gunpowder is so underused in fantasy. I think people think gunpowder and medieval swordplay are mutually exclusive, or have misconceptions about exactly how long gunpowder has been a part of European warfare.
Guns and high medieval plate armor were developed concurrently and in response to each other.
I know it's ridiculous, but I love the idea of some kind of primitive pseudo-tanks, knights huge sets of armour or large, wheeled tower shields with attached volatile but terribly destructive early guns.
You should look up Jan Zizka, Wagenburgand, and the Hussite wars. The Hussites used armored wagons carrying handgunners, crossbowmen, and artillery as mobile fortifications, but I've also heard of them using teams to push the wagons forward as an armored fist supported by infantry, similar to modern infantry fighting vehicles.
I also have a huge fascination with early firearms, especially those that were way ahead of their time (see pic related, a 16th century matchlock gun with removable cartridges, including primer)
From a world building perspective I'd love to see a heavily industrialized society with 1500s era technology, where matchlock/wheellock revolvers, cartridge-fed rifles, and even primitive automatics are widespread enough to be used for military purposes.
Because dragons are people like everyone else and are called to the war alongside human soldiers?
weird bunch of anti-rebels, born oglers who dare somehow to back away from ironic watching, who have the childish gall actually to endorse and instantiate single-entendre principles. Who treat of plain old untrendy human troubles and emotions in U.S. life with reverence and conviction. Who eschew self-consciousness and hip fatigue. These anti-rebels would be outdated, of course, before they even started. Dead on the page. Too sincere. Clearly repressed. Backward, quaint, naive, anachronistic. Maybe that’ll be the point. Maybe that’s why they’ll be the next real rebels. Real rebels, as far as I can see, risk disapproval. The old postmodern insurgents risked the gasp and squeal: shock, disgust, outrage, censorship, accusations of socialism, anarchism, nihilism. Today’s risks are different. The new rebels might be artists willing to risk the yawn, the rolled eyes, the cool smile, the nudged ribs, the parody of gifted ironists, the “Oh how banal.” To risk accusations of sentimentality, melodrama. Of overcredulity. Of softness. Of willingness to be suckered by a world of lurkers and starers who fear gaze and ridicule above imprisonment without law. Who knows. ”
How are Dragonball and Naruto cosmic horror? It doesn't qualify as such if the heroes can actually beat the eldritch abominations, not that I'm even sure there are any in those series.
Wuxia where martial arts makes you better in every way could fit as cosmic horror where you are not one of the martial artists. You are all but helpless against them. They fight for alien reasons, and you can do nothing.
Right, from the perspective of a guy who can't do kungfu, wuxia settings are a world where some people have the ability to fucking break reality and do crazy bullshit and most people can't. It's a world that fucking sucks for muggles.
You'd need some eldritch underpinnings to the martial arts of the world, go for some of the far more fanciful chi-fuckery of the mythology. Like, "by mastering Octopus Style I move like the octopus!" becomes "my arms are tentacles!"
But you're all forgetting that cosmic horror needn't mean Lovecraftian horror specifically. Why do you need Elder Gods and cults and things when you have the already vast, unplumbed depths of the cosmos and dimensions of space wherein can exist shapes we would see the mere shadow of?
The way I see it, the superhuman feats of these wuxia characters are blind and ignorant tappings into fundamental and/or preternatural forces existing in us or around us, through techniques as simple as specific breathing or trance states or other such things which might let us, even for a mere second, glimpse and be touched by forces the limited human psyche can barely comprehend? I find it's much, much scarier sometimes to blunder into the unspeakable horrors than have to search lost, forgotten places.
>wuxia settings are a world where some people have the ability to fucking break reality and do crazy bullshit
Examples? I've only watched a couple of shows, but it was mostly just physical feats and some energy manipulation even for the most broken characters.
Guns tend to preclude the use of crossbows and bows in setting.
It also pushes technology toward the Age of Sail, which brings up colonialism, radical new philosophies, revolutions, and republicanism, which are things that some players and GMs just don't want to deal with.
I think one of the big problems is when realistic tactics succeeding results in things that are un-desirable for the plot, such as the dragon slayer PCs being pointless because for a tenth the cost of getting them to that level they could down the dragon with a dozen cannon.
The fantasy I like often has an air of the PCs being able to fight enemies that scores of lesser soldiers would fail against and generally being one man armies, where as guns are often sold as the ability for tech, logistics, and numbers to bring down any supernatural force without preternatural talent on the part of any one soldier.
I would love to see fantasy super heroes.
either superheroes in a fantasy world or magic as the main source of superpowers in a modern setting.
No, it doesn't though - that's my point. Bows were more accurate and had a higher rate of fire than early guns. High quality crossbows had a similar rate of fire and similar anti-armor qualities, were resistant to wet climate, and we're silent. It all depends on the era, but for centuries guns, bows, and crossbows were all used commonly in warfare. Guns only superseded bows when improved steelmaking techniques made manufacturing gun barrels and munitions grade armor more economical viable than bows and crossbow prods in the early 17th century.
Even the settlers at Jamestown were supplied with longbows. In fact, Benjamin Franklin believed in training militia in the use of longbows as a viable alternative to muskets.
I love early modern history, in case you can't tell. 1540- you've got pikes, arquebuses, calivers, muskets, pistols, crossbows, longbows, plate, brigantine, and maille armor, longswords, sideswords, sabers, falchions, halberds, artillery, mortars, trebuchets, all in viable military use. It was the beginning of early modern infantry warfare, yet cavalry still maintained its dominance. Early industrialized warfare, mass religious unrest, the dawn of the golden age of sail and with it the golden age piracy.
If you like military history and you're not fascinated by the European Renaissance, I just don't get you, man.
Anyone know some good sources for Medieval Cosmic Horror?
In a similar style I remember reading a book about a 'space'-ship (that actually traveled in the aether between the celestial spheres surrounding the planets) and some connection to a mystery cult, but I can't remember anything too specific about it.
>Right, from the perspective of a guy who can't do kungfu, wuxia settings are a world where some people have the ability to fucking break reality and do crazy bullshit and most people can't. It's a world that fucking sucks for muggles.
Except Wuxia - unlike anime - usually puts emphasis on cultivation over innate talent, i.e you could do it if you cared enough.