I still have money riding on Mr. Scruffy somehow playing into Belkar's future demise. Lost member of the Chinese Zodiac/12 Gods is just too good a possibility to completely ignore. Maybe the cat is how he keeps his free will, either by being the god of death the spirit reports to or by banishing said spirit?
Can't Roy still kill the qt 3.14 vampire priestess of Hel, or convince her to leave? She should be weaker than Dorkula at least. >>44856389 >And Roy probably doesn't count as her bodyguard Why? The reason why they could kill the vampires was because they weren't bodyguards, Roy status wasn't transferred to them. I think. >>44856441 Or they are longtime friends of their respective priests, hard to turn on a friend and all that.
I understand the author says this is a plot-plot, not a subplot, but I just can't seem to get into it.
Not looking at it from the perspective of "how will this fit into a real-life book that picks up from the last collection" it's extremely off-putting that Roy had his huge dramatic duel with the arc villain FIRST in a way that seriously did not look like it was going to go "Villain pussies out and legs it, setting up events for the order to go after" until that happened. This looked for a WHILE like it was an all or nothing battle for Durkula that he was going to lose because he was so overconfident he tried to fight Roy instead of just waiting him out, but now...
Look, it's pretty obvious this plot is going to fail, because there's no goddamn point to the story if the world is destroyed before the final confrontation with Xykon and the Oracle's predictions, which are 100% accurate, say Elan gets a happy ending, which I'd say precludes being on the world when it's unmade and knowing untold millions suffer forever because Durkula tricked them.
So it's a foregone conclusion Durkula can't even partially succeed in his goals, whereas with Tarquin and Xykon and Nale there has always at least been the possibility the Order doesn't stop them from getting what they want.
This just feels like it's wasting time while Xykon veeeeeeeeeery slowly enacts hi plan in the distance, like the GM realized the party is still underleveled to take on the BBEG and pulled an unskippable sidequest out of his ass to force them to power-level a bit before they get their cleric back and go save the world.
>>44859259 Thing is, the book-plot is also a character piece, i.e. Durkon. If Roy staked Durkula here and rescued Durkon, Durkon doesn't get the chance for character growth. In that fight was the seed of how Durkon needs to change: He's never grappled with his dark side before, and now it's literally being used against him.
And it's not like this is the only time the Gates!Plot was suspended for character work. That's the whole point of book four. Vaarsuvius and Belkar would not be where they are now if they found a quick and easy way to regroup and get back on track.
And in lots of stories it's obvious the bag guy's plan will fail, it's a question of how it fails that remains to be seen.
Welp. I hope there's a cleric there with the travel domain, if the party wants to do anything about this. I could also see Roy leaving that to fate, going to the last dungeon, and the whole Snarl business overriding anything the gods were about to do anyway.
Roy might be able to attack the new head cleric, but he might not. It's also possible that Durkon could have simply 'fired' Roy at any point but opted not to in order to have a shot at killing him.
I actually don't want to see Durkon come back after all this. Having him just pop back into action after a couple dues ex plot twists seems.. cheap, at this point. Maybe have him refuse the resurrection once he realizes that his people are safe and he died a warrior's death to finally be with Thor. Use the favored soul character as the new cleric.
>>44859587 But V's and Belkar's respective growth arcs were updated more frequently, and were actually interesting to read. I couldn't give less of a shit about what happens to Durkon now, in part because I forget about it between the updates.
Does anyone else suspect that Rich does stupid shit, then reads about his mistakes on 4chan, and then corrects them in the first panel of the next strip?
Well, he did also very clearly respond to the people on the forums pointing out Durkula could very easily just turn to mist and wait Roy out without any danger when he had Durkula give that clunky little rant that he knows he could just evade Roy forever but he really just wants to kill him, even if that puts him and his plan in danger.
>>44859734 Book four could be just as agonising to read "live" as you find the current pace, especially before we reached the actual climax of the book. And nowadays those parts work fine in book form.
It's an inherent limitation of the medium, especially when there is no set schedule for redress, but I'm confident this will all look better in an archive binge.
I think that was more to explain to the reader than a justification. Rich doesn't always play straight with the rules, but vampires were always using their forms liberally, and Roy's never had a ranged weapon. The only thing that wasn't clear was if Durkon was fighting stupid on purpose or not.
>>44860019 The addition of the hat sticks out like a sore thumb. The 3D vs 2D clash, the color composition in contrast to the general color scheme of the whole comic, the close up 4th wall breaking vs the action scenes surrounding it, even the panel layout works in it's favor. It's like the Sistine chapel giving you the middle finger with a thousand yard stare. It's confusing, mesmerizing even. I love it.
>>44860202 Roy's arc was the earliest: The Forest Quest and Miko helping him put other people's needs above his, like when he tore up the contracts rather than legally strongarm his team into continuing the Xykon quest.
>>44856642 >I believe the specific wording was that he'd "bring death and destruction," which I'm pretty sure are Hel's domains. Yeah, but he's also bringing copious amounts of general straightforward death and destruction, in addition to meta of the domains.
I was going to use the timestamps of the strips to call you stupid and show how we'd probably 7, or maybe 8!!! in that timeframe
but it turns out there are no precise timestamps, only a copyright year
972 is when it changed from 2014 to 2015, so 6 months at last year's pace is roughly 24 updates. That's on par for 1/week updates, but given how things are going, that's probably how long it'll take for this particular bit of plot to resolve. It still feels slow as hell.
...Wait, now that I think about it, wouldn't Durkon not be subject to Hel's dominion if Durkula succeeded?
Dwarves that die in battle go to Thor. This is the agreement Hel's trying to abuse to grab power.
Durkon died in battle. The only reason his soul didn't go to the good afterlife already is that it's stuck in his body with Durkula's spirit. When that body is destroyed, Durkon is released into THOR'S dominion, not Hel's.
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