Rules. As. Written.

Get.

Fucking.

Out.

I feel the same way.

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>>44856230
Rules were meant to be broken

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Collaborative.

Storytelling.

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Rule. Of. Cool.

>>44856230
first rule. found in gw rulebooks, dnd rulebooks, etc have fun, don't let the rules prevent that

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Three. Uniword. Sentences.

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Suck.

My.

Dick.

Absolutely.

Terrible.

Threads.

>>44856302
This. Is. /thread.

>>44856230
Correct punctuation.

I'm the GM, I demand proper punctuation. None of this "punctuation for emphasis" bullshit.

I'm calling the cops when you leave, by the way.

>>44856230
Of course.

That's why basically every game out there always have "have fun is most important", "GM's ruling is final", and in some cases even "house rules are ok" as rules.

>Rules as writen and Rules as intended are the same in this case
>GM still insists the rule doesn't work like that because his dad works at [insert name of the company] or some other bullshit

What're you gonna do about it?
Pull the trigger already, you fucking pussy.

>>44856230
You are aware I wrote this rule system, right? That means that my word is LITERALLY rules as written.

>>44856230
Videogames.
but.
Not?

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>>44856230
Houserules

Up

Front

>I don't want to find out that there's a secret "It doesn't work like that" after more than one session. You gave armor DR? Nerfed Wizards? Homebrewed a race? I want to know when I sit down.

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>>44856310
I honestly can't tell.

>>44856230
The one phrase that lets me know I shouldn't play Dark Heresy first edition with that person. Rules on shit in that literally change between splat books.

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>>44856230
>playing rules as written
>not using the rules as a starting framework, modifying or ignoring them as needed to better the gaming and storytelling experience

>>44856816

And write that shit down. I don't want to go off your fucking memory the entire time.

>>44856988
this desu.
I bet you're the kind of people that rolls for breakage after every attack in anima.

>>44856988
Modifying them doesn't lead to better storytelling.

It leads to heck, where the devil is.

>>44857203
>heck
Watch your mouth, this is a Christian website.

>>44857215
>Christian website.
>Pagan daemonism books in every thread.

Poppycock, fibber!

>>44856230
>no trigger discipline
>apparently unable to rack the slide properly
I'm not impressed

>>44857102
When I homebrewed a sci-fi d20 system (long ago, before d20 modern), I wrote down every broken, impractical, horrible Houserules, and it came to a binder 63 pages long, including charts. No player wanted to read it, but I could quickly reference every houserule.

>>44856413
My dad works at nintendo

>>44857232
I'll wash your mouth out with meatbread!

>>44856289
>GW rulebooks being a reference regarding game design
Never.
But you're right.

>>44857254
You know, I started just writing my own system as therapy for shit like this. Coming along smoothly and has kept unnecessary over homebrew out of the last couple games I've run.

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Why not just roll with what the group wants and modify things where need be so everyone has a fun and memorable experience?

>>44856230
Rule of Cool or RAW depending on the situation. Try threatening someone who's actually scared of guns next time.

>>44856230
Could you not even find a picture with a real gun? (screw hole front of slide)

>>44857612
Does that look like a man who should be able to buy a gun
?

>>44856289
>>44856399
>>44856988
>>44857352
>fun
>experience
What is this, /v/? We're here to carry out an exact simulation of the court of Heinrich III, it's just past Lauds on Wednesday 23 June 1031, and it's raining. You know your roles. Play them.

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>>44856816
>join a game
>GM says there's houserules
>ask if he can write them down so I see them
>he says there's too many to write down so he's not gonna

>>44857774
I want to roll to sense motive (calling it now, its dracula. it's always dracula).

>>44857774
I want to warn the Kaiser about the Hungarian menace!

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>Rifts Full Conversion Cyborg
Cybernetics: None, prefers to rely on natural abilities

>>44856230
Yes.

No.

Maybe?

>>44856230
Shut the fuck up. I'm trying to make this fun for people that aren't you too.

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>>44856230

No.

Nope.

Fuck you.

My father could handle and shoot a pistol better. And he hated guns. Also, too shiny.

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>>44856230
Of course!

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>>44862982
Code is the Law

>>44856230
Bait.

Is.

Mediocre.

This is a quality thread, I'm glad those questfags got BTFO so we have more room for threads like these.

>>44863263

Been gone for a while friend, where they they all fuck off to?

>>44856252
Sandler.

Fraser.

Buscemi.

>>44856230
Aight. My Druid/Barbarian will end the game with 50 Strength, though...

>>44857655
He looks American.
Second amendment says any idiot can have a gun.

>>44856230
I used to play with a version of that guy.

>>44856230
Shit.

Posting.

Intensifies.

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>Rules as Written
>The rules are actually incomplete/missing

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>>44856230

>>44856230
I.
Have.
A pen.

>>44856289
>first rule. found in gw rulebooks, dnd rulebooks, etc have fun, don't let the rules prevent that

>what dm say is law
>dm say rule X is
>apply rule Y

congratulation

Not using books rules, just change from people complaining of dm not using the book rules, to dm not use his own rules he said he would use

>>44857774
There is something so pleasing to me about this.

Am I autistic?

>>44859992

You fail to warn the Kaiser about the Hungarian menace.

As the DM I am a god, the golden god, as such the rules do not apply to me.

As a lowly player, perhaps you can make a case and the lord your god shall allow the rules to change

>>44863873
>The rules tell you to use your own if you think they're more appropriate for that situation

OH DAMN

All game playtesting needs to happen RAW exactly, otherwise the playtest is worthless.

Rules as agreed upon.

>>44864087
You might be. Enjoy the ride. Autism isn't all that bad.

>>44864243
I always hate these style of gms.

I never stick around for their entire campaign.

Be
Excellent
To
Each
Other

>>44856230
I'm no expert to /tg/, but aren't rules supposed to balance shit out?

I'm okay with the party's Gunslinger/Rogue/Swashbuckler multipling their sneak attack bonuses on enemies if the DM allows it and they think it's fun, but applying them on me when they become angry? well, that's not pretty funny to me.

>>44871039
Because the rules don't always account for every possible situation.

>>44871122
Sure, and from what I've gattered on /pfg/ Pathfinder isn't really balanced to begin with. But my point is I'm pretty sure if I point out that inconsistensy I'm gonna get meme'd to hell and back even if it affects me personally.

>>44871217
Truth is, groups vary so greatly away from the devs ability to explain things or enforce rules that no system will be balanced for every group.

One of the major hang ups that /tg/ has for any system is homebrewing and solving problems as a group to make a system work for them.

Year ago, players would come on here and ask how to do something in a campaign when we had no details about what they had as optional or replaced rules in their games. This made anons frustrated because they could not give a straight answer or their answer was no longer valid. This lead to them discouraging any form of rule changing and eventually to people trying to make the best system so they can win the game better and faster than anyone else.

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Lots of triggered rules autists here.

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>>44856816
Ehh. I can't take that guy seriously since I noticed his big goofy tongue hanging out of the bottom of his helm.

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>>44867816
Amen, Brother !

>>44871616
Fuck you, I can't unsee it now. This picture used to be so cool.

>>44871616
>>44871943
Do you honestly think someones tongue is that long? Its like a handkerchief or something.

>>44856230
GM's.

Word.

Overrules.

>>44864137
I try to murder the Hungarian menace.

>>44856230
I can't take this picture seriously. This has to be bait. Cause if OP is serious that is literally the least threatening picture I've ever seen.

Doesn't matter what rules you use. Homebrew or RAW, the only thing that matters is that you do so consistently.
Switching from house to raw and back with no warning is the worst. Hands down, even shitty rules can't beat that.

>>44856302
>>44856309
Thirding. These. Posts.

>>44856483
Only if you write it down.

> I'm sorry, the answer is 'moops'
> what!? The answer is 'moors'
> RAW its moops

>Class not made for combat is better at combat than a class made for combat
>DM "Is what the devs wanted, I'm noone to change that"

>>44863900
>Hurr durr you rules lawyers
>Devs: of course "crossbow expert" works for casting spells, nowhere in the feat says it only works with crossbows or ranged weapons
This is some hypocrisy right here

>>44856230
[Perception] You know, you'd be a lot more impressive if your gun had any bullets.

>>44873954
>Teleports bullet into the chamber and shoots you

>>44863900
If I had to rule that, I'd say he only gets to add the +2 if he uses the sword as a wand, and only if the spell allows a wand or similar when casting it.

>>44873978
Roll to teleport the bullet. DC15, no modifiers.

Rolled 14 (1d20)

>>44874013
15? that's pretty hard, I've been training my powers since I was young, but ok

>>44874027
Too bad. The bullet appears in your hand.

Don't bother trying to shoot me. I've already done it to myself. See you in Hell.

>>44873175
It has a gun in it. It doesn't matter who holds the gun, the gun can kill you. Now, because it's a picture and not a gun in your face, it's not dangerous, but this is true for all images.

>>44873241
It's in the newest version. I'll send you guys a copy after the game.

Don't believe me? Then before you go on a rant on how I make things up as I go and have no respect for the rules or whatever you wish to say, I'll say this. I do this for my and your entertainment. We're here to have a good time. If I houserule something and you don't agree with it, speak up and come up with an argument why I shouldn't beyond "hurr houserule". It's usually because something is stupid or because the houserule makes things more fun. This is also why I run custom systems or run houserules. To make things more interesting or fun. It isn't a battle, it isn't a competition on who can play the system the hardest.
If your idea of having fun is to obsess over and probably abuse rules, feel free to do that on your own time with anyone you convince to join you. Do not do it here. If you disagree, or have an argument against a particular rule, speak up after the session. Right now, I'd very much like to keep going, so would you kindly hold your piece until later?

On a separate note, I'm still calling the cops. The gun might be fake, but you'll have to explain that to the officers.

>>44856230
Okay. I'm running GURPS. RAW explicitly states that I have complete power to ignore any rule.

>>44873877
>implying there's such a thing as a "class not made for combat" in D&D

>>44856230
>Opinions

>>44856399
>Opinions

>Opinions everywhere

>>44875634
>5e Ranger
Oh holy shit snacks they suck at everything.
>4e Vampire
Couple that with the race and you basically explode the moment someone turns on a flashlight.

>>44875609
Then ignore that rule, so now you can't ignore rules.

>>44875928
does spellless 5e ranger suck (from unearthed arcana.) Because I am playing one and I'm the most powerful char in my party, and I'm the primary out of combat healer. DM has whined that I "shouldn't want to get so powerful so fast."

>>44876040
That's not how logic works. If you ignore all of the rules, you no longer need a rule to support your decisions that would conflict with the rules. You could run FATAL and call it a legal GURPS game and be right.

>>44876103
Is that the playtest Ranger that only goes to level 5?
If so that thing is baller, that level one ability is broken as fuck.
But core Ranger is so shitty, seriously. It just sucks at everything.

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>>44876140
>You could run FATAL and call it a legal GURPS game and be right.
DO IT, FAGGOT!

>>44876140
Logic?
Where we're going we don't need logic.

FATAL is not a bad game, its the Rob Liefeld of tg, and its a treasure.

>>44876169
no, its normal 5e ranger with some modifications made to it laid out in 5e's unearthed arcana. Its all post playtest. Basically instead of spells I get to make herbal healing poultices that heal ceiling(lvl/2)d6 and I can have 3 at a time because of my WIS. I also get battlemaster(?) fighter manuevers. We are level 5 now and I have 3 manuevers and they are pretty robust. I also have 20 dex because lol single stat archery.

>>44876217
Ahh see that's the difference
Core Ranger sucks donkey dick, your animal comp is useless.
>I have to give up my attack action so my comp can attack
Spell list is okay, but as a caster you need more stats and feats to not get fucked over that they are just are second class everything.
They really don't do anything special on their own which is a shame they were powerhouses when you wanted them to be in previous editions.

>>44856230
The.

Paladin.

Falls.

>>44876292
don't be a beast master then. I went with archery specialization and its awesome. I have an amazing hit chance at any range (even melee, because disadvantage isn't so bad that I have to switch weapons). And I can fire 3 arrows in a round (one from extra attack, one from the style, one normal). And because single stat everything I add high damage to all my arrows.

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>Rule #1: Have fun

>>44875928
>Couple that with the race and you basically explode the moment someone turns on a flashlight.

False. You don't take the radiant damage in sunlight(and only sunlight, so the flashlight won't do much good) if you aren't wearing any armor.

And even then, it's literally 5 damage a round you're exposed. Against a 4e character.