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So guys, how's your campaigns going?
Tell me the funniest/funnest thing your players have done. Or, what's the most interesting encounter your GM has set up for you?

We haven't yet started the campaign, but soon I hope to get a RT campaign going. That said, how well does Forsaken Bounty work as an intorductory adventure?

>>44852964
My players asked me to allow this asshat to join the game, I didn't want to allow him but said I'd try him out.

Didn't go well, he was a rules lawyer and a That Guy as expected, but he's such a moany little bitch I couldn't just kick him out, so I was stuck with him for a couple more games.

He's playing a psyker and being pretty open with his abilities but the team are going pretty stealthily through the game with covers as just normal guys, bunch of traders or some shit, he wanders off on his own, and he's spouting off to strangers about his abilities, even though I'd warned him Blackships were planetside harvesting psykers for sacrifice to The Emperor.

Long story short he continues to use his powers in public, and gets abducted by the Blackship, he starts screaming about being in the Inquistion but nobody believes him and the team are so split up they aren't even around to prove that he's there on official business.

He didn't come back next game.

>>44852964
My OW players are still reclaiming a formerly lost base from feral orks, their regiment is a new wave of fresh reinforcements and HQ wanted to exploit it to the fullest by conducting large scale joint operations to reconquer lost ground. Orks had just attacked the spaceport so numbers in the jungle were estimated relatively low.

It all started with a one day march through the jungle, the first wave would have cleared the areas around the base at night to prevent orks from reinforcing the garrison when the shooting started. It went pretty well but ork presence immediately looked much heavier than expected, the reaction to human presence was brutal, but most squads achieved their objectives and gathered at the appointed time and place to wait for the second wave and attack the base proper.

Now the attack is in full swing, but it's unclear if the orks around at night were stragglers of the first attack on the spaceport, a second wave that was on its way to join the first one or simply orks that have been living here.

>>44852964
Our dark heresy campaign is a tangled mess of intrigues, side plots and could be the best described as a clusterfuck as we don't have the means to follow the main plot anymore on account of our inquisitor being arrested, another puritan being on our trail, necrons raising across the sector, our inquisitors' peer seemed to have sold him out, said peer being under scrutiny for consorting with Eldar, daemonic bloodline of one of the party members coming back to haunt him despite having been thoroughly purged, one of our party members believing there another PC is a traitor cooperating with the aforementioned puritan, there are still leftovers of a major techno heresy flaring up across the sector, we need to deal with a semi sentient, self-replicating goo corrupting souls and machine spirits alike, at least two major noble houses seem to have a hand with at least part of the incidents, related to the golden goo and a pilgrim vessel, tainted by the Warp crashed some 80 miles away from the hive we are currently in.
It's fucking great, we totally got everything under control

>>44854649
That's the one where you're salvaging a ship and you come across that Halo Artifact, right?

Meh, I prefer the one in the Core book.

What's your favourite adventure /tg/?
Mine has got to be Ark of lost souls, something about space hulks is just so interesting

How long would it take to grow a replacement limb in a vat for a space marine? The extraction didn't quite go as planned, plus one cannot let the opportunity to piss of groups Iron Hands techmarine pass by like that

If, for whatever reason, a guardsman got a space marine helmet, could he use it or would he just be blind, but really well protected on his head?

>>44855309
It would be more detrimental as a helmet then anything else; firstly it would be hevier then they are used to, secondly it would not be form fitting like on a marine so while it may protect him from a shot it would just as likly knock him out as his head bounces from the impact. Lastly it would not be connceted to a power source so all the HUD would be missing.
All that said, if you want power armour they do make it human sized, though i dont know why they would give it to a guardsman

>>44854794
What's your player group? You run infantry or what?

>>44855174
Lure of the Expanse for me.
So much good stuff in there.

>>44855279
Grow? Biological replacement limbs are really fucking shitty in 40K. IIRC the only stats for one in the RPGs are in Lathe Worlds and count as a Poor Quality Cyberlimb without the bonus armour/toughness.
Making one Space Marine sized? I doubt they have the ability.

Just get a Cybernetic limb.

>>44855279
Im not sure the imperium can regrow limbs of that caliber. They could make an arm big and strong enough but as quick or dextrose as the original, proberly not. Then you have the issue of the black carapace and all manner of bioengineering that goes into a spacemarine (worked into the marine over years). A cybernetic replacement is the closest the mechanicum could come to replacing the work of the emperors gene tech.
That said I know of a couple of fellows on the edge of space who could grow you a replacement limb free of charge, in fact the new limb will be stronger and faster then your previous limb. Be careful though the mechanicum has infiltrated the apothecary core of most chapters and they will detect the superior work and take it for them selves. (Care not to tell the chaplins either, they cant hold secrets to save the imperium)

>>44855396
We have a light infantry regiment from a trading imperial world that's loosely based on not-south america, so either arid or jungle for training, big on cosmopolitan stuff and high quality recaf exports. The regiment is mainly composed of former security guards in the planet's facilities, not that rough maybe but competent and trained enough. Plus that'll get them flagged for VIP escorts soon.

Our squad is currently a weapon specialist sniper, another more run&gun with a melta, a sergeant unsure about how to spec himself, a medic and a techpriest that complains about having made such a char mainly for RP but unluckily is not present whenever he has the chance to investigate tech stuff, and ends up only playing during combat-heavy sessions. Then we have an operator that was created for another player but didn't see much playing before the player went off, he'll just go around and be the designated squad driver/tech priest butler with tech stuff when plot demands for one, I'm not having DMPCs for now.

>>44854649
Y-you wouldn't.... y'know.... happen to need some more crew... for that RT campaign.... wouldya?

I want to order the Dark Heresy 2nd edition book, but the website says it's Paperback?
Do they actually make a paperback version, or is this website just wrong?

>>44855713
They make both a physical hardcover book and a digital release

>>44855752
But is the digital version softcover or hardcover?

>>44855752
Thanks I just didn't want to accidentally buy some shitty paperback.
If I'm paying over 40 euro for a book, that cover better be made of fucking concrete.

>>44854649
Iiiiis it gonna be an IRL or an online campaign?

>>44852964
At the moment we are tracking a turncoat Inquisitor on a terraformed planet with really thick and rapidly growing jungle. We made contact with a noble artist who may have been touched by Slaanesh He paints with corpse fluids and was attacked by a small Eldar strike-force, so I'm suspicious to say the least. In order to establish a contact-network though him, we agreed to check on his little brother who should be at a research outpost in the middle of jungle. After doing some digging we discovered that someone has been fucking with the supply run catalogs related to this outpost, so something is up.

We went to investigate and after landing and quick escalation, we tried to flee with one of the outpost officers. For our surprise and misfortune, an autocannon scored 3 hits to our lander hull, forcing us to land in the jungle. The crash killed few NPCs and broke our vox.

A search party of 12 quickly came in a chimera and walked into an ambush. My character was shot with a autocannon and took a krak in the leg, but he survived.

Overall we are doing pretty good, though my character has a broken leg and 0 wounds left and we still need to storm the outpost

>>44856381
>My character was shot with a autocannon and took a krak in the leg, but he survived.
Terrible rolls or is your character just hard as hell?

>>44856427
There was a fuck-huge tree covering me from the autocannon, absorbing 16 pts of damage and my total protection rating was 12 praise the omnissiah for armour-monger

Hey, it might be because I'm on my phone, but the enemies without link isn't working for me.

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>Normie friends don't want to play any RP game
>40k m8s don't want to try RP
>Not NEET so i can't find a decent group online
JUST

>>44856177
>>44855595
It's gonna be IRL, Tuesday evenings, in Sweden...

in stead of combing through all the books to find it, I'll just ask.

are there combined fighting tactics rules in this system anyplace?
and if there are, are they any good?
and if they're any good, what book(s) contain them?

>reason
I'm producing a home-brew using this systems base mechanic and I want powerful opponents, and late-game entities to use combined tactics. I may allow players access to these as well, but I want for this to be a means of making NPCs something they can't laugh off.

>>44857346
What exactly do you mean under combined tactics?

>>44857346
what do you mean by combine tactics?
there is some good stuff in deathwatch IE the squad mode stuff, which you could use

>>44850930
ALLLLLRIGHTY /40kRPGG/ in Only War one of my players grew a third arm as a mutation. The squads tech-priest (come medic) immediately chopped the thing off, and that was that.

so the question i have is, is that enough to stop corruption? it seemed trivial, even with the surgery rolls they made. What can i add/throw at the character to re-enforce the long term consequence of mutation?

>>44857430
How did he attain the mutation? Through corruption points? Then the obvious solution to that is through the fact that he has a tainted soul and with help of the corruption track.

>>44857392
things like (shield wall+grenades) or (one man moves while another shoots, then stops and shoots while the first man moves.)

>>44857400
>good stuff in deathwatch IE the squad mode stuff
I'll DL and check that...page numbers? or is it listed in the index, or table of contents?

>>44857457
they gained them though me using DH2 beta rules for corruption, after being present at a massive daemon summoning ritual, and then deciding it would be a good idea to pick up the weapons the chaos marines dropped,which i had described as being covered in eldrich runes (including a dark apostle's mace).

I am going for the tainted soul thing, but was wondering how that could manifest? phantom pains in his 'missing' hand, feeling of loss over the limb?

>>44857469
You are going to have to look yourself, each splat has its own bunch of squad mode stuff, just use the index/ table of contents.

>>44857520
What malignancies did they get before the mutation?

>>44857557
Dont have the sheets on my now, and i cant remember. What were you thinking?

>>44857530
>implies more than one book has them
well then, time to hit the books. thanks for the help.

>>44857609
Basically, just follow the guidelines set out for using the corruption rules and emphasize whatever malignancy they rolled.

My players located a small cache of Pre-Heresy equipment. Any ideas what should I throw in there? I'd like to say "jetbikes", but there is only of hose jetbike in existence left, what equipment could there be?

>>44860360
Archaeotech Bolters are already statted, there could be a whole truckload in there. On top of that... Heresy-era power armours? Perhaps a few Volkite guns? What sort of cache is it?

>>44860399
Thank you, I'll look into volkite guns.
They located a pre-heresy Alpha Legion voidship, tad smaller than a viper scout sloop, buried underneath a hive city for some unknown purpose.
Borderline Heretecs used part of the ship as their secret research station, unaware of the true nature of the structure, until the players, well, did their player thing.
Most of it was scoured clean, but they have located a small armoury, mostly empty, but with some equipment left behind.
I'm trying to come up what kind of equipment it could have been, XX Legion thinking ahead and stuff.

>>44860498
Volkite guns are statted in Shas' homebrew books linked in the OP

A short gripe post, so forgive me.
I'm in a good DH2e game, but the xp count is twisting against me due to a group tradition of stating the kind of things you learned about 40k as a setting for bonus xp.
As I have the most experience with 40k out of the group (everyone else being new to it save the GM), I have to state things I learned about the GM's custom world. The issue is that a lot of things are standard to the setting, and unless someone encounters something new, I don't have anything to pass muster with. I'm several hundred xp behind even the newest character, and it grates me that while I try to play a fairly devout guardsman vet to the hilt, complete with prayers from the Uplifting Primer and of my own make, the rest of the group don't try nearly as hard to live up to the setting. This grinds on me further when the GM offers xp for roleplay experiences and I get the same amount as the person who spent 80% of the game watching silently, even when the ball was in their court to interact with the world.
I know people will say talk to the GM, but what will that do, as I do believe the GM is mostly correct with his more stringent stipulations to me, and that the only real fair thing to do would be to cut the tradition, which only costs the entire group because I'm whining I'm not getting nice things as easily as others.
I mentioned all this to a player, and they responded that I get xp for combat, but that usually comes from holding the line so the rest of the party can escape, and I take on like 6 armed gangers at once alone, ie not battles I sought, but ones I must deal with for my part as the warband's shield.
That, and the GM is a straight up guy and well meaning to a fault, and it's circumstance that brought me here.
>/bitching

bump before sleep

>>44860758
Might want to take a hint from the all guardsmen game and play your guy like a trench-humping cunt during combat. Let the civvies sink or swim, show'em what's it all about.

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If anyone's in need of a Kill-Marine, let me know.

>>44861555
I've thought about it, but my character used to be a bodyguard for IG officers, and his assigned duty in the warband is to use his formidable combat skills and singleminded faith to get the group out of bad situations.

>>44861715
Hmm.. Maybe convince the GM that stating new 40K discoveries falls within the spirit of the rule? Knowledgeable as you are, it's a big enough IP that there's some things you're bound to miss. Hit the books and wow the newbies with your lore mastery for educational and XP purposes.

>>44861681
lol, deathwatch is so fucking boring and mixing dh with dw at the same time is fucking stupid, kill ya self

>>44852964

My group just willing offered their anus's to a Greater Daemon of Slaanesh for their lives and a way out of his realm.
Black Crusade is fun like that.

>>44857469
>things like (shield wall+grenades) or (one man moves while another shoots, then stops and shoots while the first man moves.)

>>44857469
Deathwatch is full of these. It has Solo/Squad abilities, Squad roles, Maneuvers and Heroic Legacy packages.
Only War has Comrade abilities.

Nothing in other systems though.

>>44861843
The caliber of your average dhfag, everyone.

>>44861843
It's only as boring as your GM (or you) runs it.

>>44860758
That is by far one of the dumbest ways of getting bonus exp I have ever heard of and basically requires reverse metagaming.

>>44860758

"role-playing" xp is cancer in all forms. The fact your DM is willing to entertain giving more or less XP for his interpretation of "good roleplay learning" really just speaks to how awful he is.

>>44862030
>>44862076
It's a decent enough carrot for absolute 40k noobs to act IC and learn while they're at it, I suppose.

>>44862076
rollplayer pls go and stay go

>>44861843
At this point I'd settle for one-shot appearances in random /tg/ games and becoming a board character. Killing myself would be a disservice to the Emperor, citizen.

How would you buff the needle pistol/rifle?

Speaking of Killmarines
>Kill-marine Special Ability: One-Man Kill-Team
>...
>When in Squad Mode the Kill-marine can use the following
(and only the following) Squad Mode Abilities: Bolter Assault,
Dig in, Fire for Effect, Furious Charge and Regroup

Does this mean he no longer has access to his Chapter Squad Mode abilities?

>>44862406
I believe that only applies for one man squadding. Same as the no Command skill bonuses.

Tactical bump protocols engaged.

>>44862435
>I believe that only applies for one man squadding.
This brings more questions than it answers.

Even if it is only for one-man squadding, does that mean that when KM squad-modes with himself, he loses his Chapter abilities, but when he squad-modes with other people (most likely from different chapters than himself), he suddenly regains them?

Can you make a feudal character in any 40k game (that isn't BC using legacy weapons) and have them be useful from a combat standpoint? I want to play a feudal gunslinger armed with a brace of pistols because reloading takes too long, but in a DH2 game alongside a Guardsman Warrior, a Hiveborn Seeker and a Voidborn Heirophant, I just don't know if I can cut it.

>>44850930
Why can I never find anyone to run Rogue Trader or Deathwatch, I want to actually play instead of forever DM

>>44863595
When he's by himself, entering Squad Mode works differently, as described in the book. What's complicated about that?

>>44863792
Because the rest of us chodes are shitty, boring GMs. Believe me, I know this for a fact...

>>44863792

Because Dark Heresy has the reputation for "roleplay trumps all" and /tg/ hates mechanics.

>>44863833
I don't mind a shitty dm from time to time so long as I can actually play

>>44863848
Shit nigga, I'd love to get to play me some Dark Heresy too

>>44863806
Err, no. The book never mentions that his specific way of functioning in Squad Mode works only during solo operations, and not when he works with other SMs.

And you're not answering the question I asked.

>>44863924
Read the rules five times a day for the rest of the month, and if you can't figure it out by yourself, it was probably never meant to be understood.

>>44863958
Do you actually have a point, or are you just barking for the sake of barking?

>>44863994
Do you actually have a clue, or are you braying for the sake of braying?

>>44864007
I have a clue, I'm asking about something that rules are not clear about.

Your turn.

In DH2e, how does item quality factor into the starting scarce or lower gear you can get?

Is starting gear availability also adjusted if you have the administratum or admech backgrounds?

>>44863769
Make a Desperado character. Granted, if your gimmick is that you're going to use only flintlock pistols, you're going to suck either way because flintlocks are weak, even if you take a Feral homeworld. So stop fooling around and take proper pistols.

On a different note

>reloading takes too long

Rapid Reload and weapon upgrades can improve that, plus in my personal experience fights rarely last long enough that you need to reload midfight.

>>44864187
In my opinion yes and yes, item quality should factor in for starting acquisitions, as well as background bonuses. Also, Peer talents may help as well.

With my AdMech character GM allowed me to take Very Rare cybernetics at chargen. So, there's that.

>>44862379
I don't think they need buffing.
They are task oriented weapons with a specific purpose intended, silent kills on civilian targets.
>>44863769
The armor is good, the weapons are not. Play to the spirit, not the hard mechanics if it means failing in your duty.

>>44864188
>in my personal experience fights rarely last long enough that you need to reload midfight.
Heavily depends on what gun you're using and the circumstances. Plasma pistols and hand cannons routinely run dry mid-fight in my experience, and more generally there are several types of guns are able to be emptied within 2-3 rounds easily, while an average fight might last 5-6 rounds. Of course, if everyone involved is sitting in heavy cover and plinking away like they're playing CoD instead of gloriously charging the enemy armed with a chainsword, a flamer, and unwavering faith in the Emperor, fights can last even longer.

>>44864187
My gm ruled that the item talents didn't apply pregame, and I don't particularly disagree with him, as it isn't that hard to find gear whilst playing the game now.

>>44864299
I've only had a few setpiece battles that went for many rounds. Usually, one side gets the drop on the other, and the surprised side wages a fighting retreat.

>>44864331
>as it isn't that hard to find gear whilst playing the game now.

I disagree, findign gear in DH2 is quite difficult compared to the other systems that use test-based acquisitions, AND thanks to the Subtlety penalties also actively hinders the party's mission.

>>44864452
If you are trying to buy in bulk or get fairly regulated goods, yes.
But compared to DH1e, far easier, and I've yet to encounter any particular difficulties getting what I needed to do the job well, unless the item was just unavailable in the area.
>my administorum contact didn't have disguise kits

>>44864578
Wouldn't you go to the underhive for that sort of stuff?

Or was that just an example and I didn't realize it?

>>44864830
This was both.
It happened to me when I was doing prep work before going out on a mission.
Also, the underhive where I am is bad, and only gangers and heretical cults lair there.

>>44864921
Sounds nicer than most underhives. At least it doesn't have filthy muties and sweatshops run by the gangs.

>>44864921
What about a fancy clothing or makeup store for spire nobles? Surely those would function similarly to a disguise kit.

>Select all images with stained glass
Captcha knows

>>44864971
The underhive is also literally a frozen ruin called Hel by the locals, and it's caving in on itself due to drilling for promethium.
>>44864987
Right now, the warband is stuck in the middle hive, so it's a no go.

>>44864987
Proper disguise kit includes more things than just new clothes and makeup, like contact lens to change eye colour, voice modulators, attachements to change the appearance of the face structure, colloid substances for fake scars etc. Plus, how are you going to disguise yourself as a beggar or a street pusher with materials from a fancy store for nobles?


Although,
>a fancy clothing or makeup store for spire nobles? Surely those would function similarly to a disguise kit.

I'd allow players to make an an equivalent of Poor Quaility disguise kit with the materials they may find there.

First time GM here, going to be starting some Dark Heresy (2nd) with a small group. Is the scenario in the book a good introduction for us to get our feet wet with the rules? I also have the older 1st ED book if that scenario is better?

Also, any general tips/help/advice for a new DH GM would be great.

>>44866815

From what I've heard, the one in the book is actually a bit too hard for base characters. Do the 1E one with the 2E rules because it's pretty good IMO.

>>44866890
The NPC stats in DH2 books are overinflated. If your players make their PCs with no additional XP or stats above what rulebook gives them, they'll be outclassed by what should be a rank and file mook.

Tone them down, or use profiles from earlier books, or give your PCs some extra juice at the start.

>>44866815
Getting your feet wet can work with even just the simplest scenarious. First DH I ever ran was about misterious graffiti appearing all over a hab-block (the players weren't told but it was Nurgle's symbol, hence the Inquisition attention), which they traced to mutants sneaking out at night to paint 'em, and they traced the mutants to a lower layer that got cut off in a hive quake and the survivors turned to Nurgle worship to survive, then when the party crawled down through some old vents and rat holes they had to stop a daemon summoning from happening. Quick and dirty plot with minimal planning required.

I am thinking about running a vehicle based game of Only War where the PCs are crew members of some Imperial Armored vehicle. Has anyone done this before, any tips or tricks for alot of vehicle based combat.

>>44867911
Make sure everybody is onboard with doing it beforehand.

>>44866947
They really are. Take stats from DH 1e and OW and compare.

>>44866947
>The NPC stats in DH2 books are overinflated.
Well, the troops are. The Elites and Masters are under-inflated because they have no useful Talents or Traits that allow them to actually threaten an entire party at once.

>>44868221
>"Hey guys, I want to do a campaign where everybody is on a vehicle."
>"I'm not on board with this."
>His character is literally not on board
>Gets left behind as the party drives off and is never seen again.

>>44868333

>Runs off to /tg/ and makes a That GM thread

>>44868333
Trips of threes always give good advice.

>>44855815
Made out of photons? I'm afraid it's a machine spirit friend.

>>44867911
Could also give them their own vehicle. There are two regiment types like that, the Heavy Recon with sentinels and Rapid Recon with tauros. Found in Hammer of the Emperor and Shield of Humanity respectively.

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>>44867911

Consider the type of vehicle first. A Super heavy tonk will function differently than a scout team of Sentinels or a Dracosan transport run.

Then, consider how much out-of-vehicle action there will be. Will the players just be driving tonk from warzone to warzone, or will they have to politic for the best fights, etc.

Lastly, consider how often resupply will be. A tonk is only a bunker once it is out of shells.

>>44868667
>A tonk is only a bunker once it is out of shells.
Incorrect. Tonk is still weapon if you have sufficient gas and faith in the Emperor. PREPARE FOR RAMMING SPEED!

>>44868667
No, a tank is only a bunker when you can't move it anymore. You can still hit things with it until then.

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>>44868705
>>44868712

Ah yes, how could I forget

How do you deal with Snare, specifically with Crush? It seems like such a big "I Win" power when you can render creatures helpless with impunity.

Right, so was talking about it in the last thread, so here's the basic I've got for a Warboss I intend to throw at my kill team.

Ork Bad Moon Warboss
WS 60 BS30 S(11)60 T(11)60 Ag40 Int30 Per 35 WP40 Fel 30
Wounds 6-

Armor: Customized Mega Armor: Head 10, Body 15, Arms and Legs 12
Special Rules: Counts as normal Mega armor, which also imposing -2 to the Ag bonus for the purposes of movement.

Talents and Skills: Same as boss.

Weapons: Good Quality Twin Linked Big Shoota, Good Quality Power Klaw, Normal Quality Battle Cannon(Grot Loaders, Inaccurate)

Battle Cannon rules: Custom mounted on his enhanced Mega Armor specifically to fire the weapon, this cannon, a traditional Leman Russ weapon, makes the Warboss a huge threat at range. To fire this weapon, the warboss must forfeit his movement and any other action.

Grot Loaders: A battle cannon traditionally requires an entire crew to fire, and the Warboss has outfitted his Mega Armor to pack a crew of 6 grots to load and prime the weapon for him. In between the rounds of shooting, the grot crew will emerge from boltholes in the armor to reload the weapon, taking a single round to do so. This allows the Warboss to fire the cannon every other round. During the loading action, the crew are vulnerable to fire, and called shots can kill them. However, even while loading, they still benefit from the Mega Armor. Treats them as having an Armor equal to the head armor of the warboss. The first two grots killed have no effect on the loading time of the weapon, but for each additional grot killed, increase the loading time of the weapon by one round.

If a Kill team member manages to score an Emperor's Fury result against the Warbosses head and pierces the armor, the damage manages to hit and kill a grot instead of the warboss himself.

>>44870991
Tactics: Favoring loud and very big guns, the Warboss fires his battle cannon at any who cross his path with wild abandon. At range, he alternates between firing his Big Shoota on full auto at the closest enemy he can see and firing the Battle Cannon at the largest group of enemies, laughing loudly the entire time. If an enemy approaches him in melee, he's more than happy to employ his Klaw, but the gun crazy warboss will also fire his cannon at anyone in melee with him as soon as he's able, trusting in his enhanced armor and natural Orky toughness to allow him to continue fighting.

Killing his Grot crew will leave him furious, and he'll rapidly attempt to close to melee with his enemies at this point, made much harder by his glacial speed.

What I've got thus far for an idea. I'm considering having the team need to test to see the grots if they're not close, either a vision test or a hearing test(the grots have to tell the Warboss the gun is ready manually).

Are only war adventures not meant to be survivable? Reading them over, I can't help but think that FFG has become cruel and bitter over the years.

Anyone else played with the RT2OW rules? They seem decently solid.

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>>44871063
Its Only War. You're playing as a soldier of the Imperial Guard, an organization that routinely throws lives into a meat grinder until that grinder is so overloaded that it ceases to operate. If it was less cruel than the setting and your place in it wouldn't be authentic.

>>44871261
Dark Eldar, Ork hordes, platoons of storm troopers with backup. A fucking orc boss with powered armored nobs. How the hell does a single squad of poorly equipped guardsmen beat any of this.

>>44871416
>How the hell does a single squad of poorly equipped guardsmen beat any of this.
With DAH BEHNBLAHDE

>>44871416
Blood.
Explosives.
Salvos.
Sacrifices.

All about that BASS guardsman.

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How would you roleplay a Warp Talon? I know there's an entry for them as an enemy in Tome of Excess, but I'm curious how one would work as a PC.

Also, would they behave like an Astartes or a Daemon?

>>44871416
Your primary problem is that you have two false assumptions
>Single squad
Players might be commanding several squads or a full platoon of Guardsmen or have lots of NPC backup, depending on their regiment
>Poorly equipped
The PCs can be anything from shitty penal legionnaires to Kasrkin or be in a fucking Baneblade or a squadron of Leman Russes. OW has tremendous power variance.

>>44871729
They wouldn't.
Play a raptor if you will, heck, even a psueodaemon raptor.

But not a Warp Talon.

>>44871763
In Final Testament and other adventures, it's pretty much stated that you're supposed to playing light infantry. In fact, if you're using any vehicles at all it gets even worse.

At one point, the players convoy is ambushed by a mechanized infantry platoon, boxed in on both sides by explosives, and bombed by ork fighters. Most of them would be lucky to survive the first few rounds nevermind emerge the victor.

>>44871416
They are poorly equipped if they don't get commerce, then it's time for shopping.

>>44871729
Think of how you would play a literal rapid dog, because that is exactly how you're going to be playing a Warp Talon. They aren't just juiced up Raptors, they're deranged, bestial mutants who lost their minds long ago. In an actual game with roleplaying involved, they shouldn't be playable characters.

>>44872662
Actually their entry in Tome of Excess just describes alien intent beyond normal human understanding. They take corrupted humans with them on their raids in the sector and even participate in terror strikes- but they seem to be more allied with the warp itself than any warband.

Would you allow to use torpedoes as ICBMs to avoid having to park the ship on low orbit? And how many atomics would you allow per torpedo.
My characters want to build a dauntless light cruiser (the one with two prow weapon slots) as a kind of red october. The want to keep a rival dinasty on the lash, and they think a long endurance stealth ship with long range nukes is the best in case they don't beheave.

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>>44850930
Does anyone have stats for any of the new(ish) skitarii? thinking of running them for Only War, but cant find any rules online

One of my players wants to challenge another to a honour duel for the perceived slight.
How do you think these are handled in Deathwatch? I would imagine they are not condoned due to damage to unit cohesion, but the organisation as a whole prefers turning a blind eye on the duels as ling as nobody gets seriously hurt.
Should they be rather public affair instead and if not, what kind of censure could the players expect?
Loss of renown? Requisition penalty? Make it harder to them to advance to command positions? No battle honours?

>>44873748
From memory, there was actually an honour duel in the Deathwatch novel Probably wasn't though which was fought in their training pit, stripped of everything but a chainsword or some other training weapon. It'd probably be accepted though, Astartes are trusted not to hold grudges that would impair mission stability. Something to look into.

Can anyone recommend good chase sequence music? Preferably upbeat, lighthearted stuff, with banjo playing and whatnot.
On an unrelated issue, are kills kans stated anywhere?

>>44874240
Does the chase involve orks? Cause then you should definitely put on something from Fury Road

>>44874240
Depending on seriousness... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuL687HGfjI

>>44874269
Yeah! I'm going to have my players flee a LARGE group of screaming orkz in a commandeered buggy through a serpentine mountain road at high speed through !notArizona

I love the 40k setting but I've never played any of the RPGs. Which is generally considered the better system, DH 1st or 2nd ed?

>>44874313
As I said, look no further than Fury Road's soudtrack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSXTxyynUJ4

>>44874605
>>44874313
Alternatively https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFJF_GiJhUc

>>44874498
When it comes to pure mechanics and nothing else, I give my vote to DH2.

>>44874498
2nd ed has a tighter skill set, and a more diverse class system, so i thinks it waaaaay better

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So, last night I managed to sit down with my three players of my Imperial Knight campaign Heavy Metal Chivalry and hammer out their character concepts and backstories and I thought /40krpg/ would find this as amusing as I did.

>Sir Janusz Soltyski - A polish Hussar in space who pilots a Cerastus Lancer called Zawizsa with a pair of fuckhueg wings bolted to it and painted in Red and White livery, with a winged Mammoth as a heraldic device. Freeblading since his house is dead and he's the last of his line and he needs to find and purge the fuckers who killed his house.

>Sir Maksimov Crnaev - An angry space serb piloting a Gallant named the Vengeant Crusader with twin Thunderstrikes in blue and crimson livery with a Wooly Grox as a heraldic device. Freeblading because he's chasing a mysterious Black Knight who killed his father and has put himself in self-imposed exile until he can avenge his father.

>Sir Nika Melor Maksimillian - Mercenary space slav of unknown heritage who pilots a Crusader called Liberty Primus in blue and gold livery with a space turtle as a heraldic device. Freeblading because he's a 7th generation Freeblade and he needs to continue the family business of fighting like motherfuckers and getting paid for it to not disappoint his father and grandfather before him.

Together, these three Space Slavs will go looking for the Holy Grail, rescue fair maidens, fight Babylonian Space Satanists, remove Kebab and probably commit an atrocity or three and get drunk as balls on moonshine vodka distilled in the reactor coolant tanks of their Knights (an expert moonshiner was seriously a request for a retainer by Maksimovs player).

So /40krpg/, how glorious do you think their Knightly quest will be?

>>44874605
>>44874728

Can't go wrong with Fury Road, but I think anon wanted something with less gravitas

With that in mind, look into songs that were used in the Dukes of Hazzard movie. Some of these should fit what you're looking for.

https://youtu.be/YtMYp5bTXyo?list=PLA54C3B2CC96239A4

>>44874969
Emprahspeed you and your PCs anon, this has potential for a good light-hearted campaign.

>>44874969
This sounds like it will be hilarious. I for one would not be opposed to some storytime from you/them.

Question: did you in any way specify they should be space slavs, or did it just happen?

>>44875068
>This sounds like it will be hilarious. I for one would not be opposed to some storytime from you/them.
Will definately happen.

>Question: did you in any way specify they should be space slavs, or did it just happen?
A bit of both. Maksimov was first out with wanting to go Space Slav, Janusz player is fairly new to roleplaying and went for playing a Space Polack because he is himself polish and polish lancers are just cool. After that, it wasn't hard to convince Nikas player to continue the theme of Slav Knights in space.

>>44873169
Anybody? i have some ideas, but it would really help to have some other voices help me out

>>44873169
>>44875179
As PC's or NPC's?

>>44875198
NPCs, i want some tin boys to throw at the players

>>44875219
Ebon sentinel, Enemies Within, p.111. We once used it as a skitarius reinforcement character.

>>44875219
Hmm, well. I'd suggest Stormtrooper equivalent stats (I think the OW Corebook has them) and tweaking around with the talents. I doubt any of them should have the machine trait, but some simplified rules for their cybernetics would be appropriate. As for their wargear, I'm not entirely sure how to stat them out. The Galvanic rifle should be a Basic 150m 2d10+2 I Pen 4 Clip 15 Rld Full or so weapon atleast though.

>>44875341
i was thinking pen 6 because AP 4, and they are ment to be AP weapons.

why no machine trait? seeing as servitors often have it, surly the heavly augmented skitarii should?

>>44875315
Seems like a good start at least, do you know if there are any equivalent of the rust stalker/ infiltrators?

>>44875405
It's Ap 4? I thought it was a S 5 Ap 5 weapon.
>why no machine trait? seeing as servitors often have it, surly the heavly augmented skitarii should?
Servitors are essentially grimdark robots though. But I'm basing it on the codex and the Crux Mechanicus, or whatever it's called which is when Skitarii have reached a certain point of augmentation that they're essentially a brain and a sack of organs in a machine body, which would be accurately represented by the Machine trait. It's also something that mostly veteran and Skitarii primes have, iirc.

It's not entirely ruleswise wrong, but it might give a basic Skitarii Ranger/Vanguard too high a soak (because Skitarii Warplate is described as similar to Stormtrooper carapace in protective quality) and it'd be better to represent veteran ones.

>>44875490
its str 4 ap 4, 30" precision shot.Its a poor-mans sniper rifle

> But I'm basing it on the codex and the Crux Mechanicus, or whatever it's called which is when Skitarii have reached a certain point of augmentation that they're essentially a brain and a sack of organs in a machine body, which would be accurately represented by the Machine trait

i am confused, you say that they shouldent have the machine trait, then say its perfectly accurate?

as for the soak,its a fairly high power game, with out 2 melee players both having eviscerators, and they always make a tactics roll to work out what weapons to bring, so i can point them at plasma and melta. that and they have a sentential along for the ride

>>44875534
>its str 4 ap 4, 30" precision shot.Its a poor-mans sniper rifle
Oh right, that's true.

>i am confused, you say that they shouldent have the machine trait, then say its perfectly accurate?
It would be accurate to use the machine trait to represent Veteran Skitarii and Skitarii Primes, or whatever the Squad leader title the codex used, not regular Skitarii.

>>44874969
>three Space Slavs
God damn, I am so sick and fucking tired of this meme.
Every other 40k game I join from /tg/ is full of cucks jerking off to muh slavs.
It's never space cowboys, never master and commander in space, never anything actually fun or original, no 100% of the time always people jerking off to russians and slavs.

>>44876904
t. Cyka kurwa

>>44876904
>It's never space cowboys, never master and commander in space,
>never anything actually fun or original

I won't say that these are not fun, because fun is subjective anyway, but they are definitely not original. And if you don't see them too often, blame your poor luck. Or maybe you could look for your game in different circles than you usually do.

>>44876904
I know that feel so much bro.
you just made me thank my gm for not pulling that bullshit.

>>44876904
>It's never space cowboys, never master and commander in space, never anything actually fun or original, no 100% of the time always people jerking off to russians and slavs.

I've done all of those before, but never space slavs.

>>44877031
You are one lucky bastards. Slavs are niggers of Europe.

>>44877043
No, that would be the gypsies.

>>44877031
Christ count yourself lucky 90% of the 40k games in the game finder threads are slav centric

>>44876904
Nice bait, but I still have to see a remotely slavish character.

>>44877064
>2011+5
>calling things you disagree with bait.

>>44877061
It's not luck when you're the GM for 90% of the games you're in.

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>>44877081
>>44877064

>ITT

Meemes, meeemes everywhere.

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>>44876904

I'm in a slump for ideas as of late. I play a Mekboy in a Rogue Trader campaign and I just don't know what to do in the down times or roleplay avenues other than scream at people, fix the big ass ship up whenever my dimwit group members fuck it up or fix their damn social issues and encounters with my huge as fuck Intimidation / Command skills.

Any pointers on being a rogue trader? I'm gonna be playing one in a few weeks and want to get into the mindset and kinda know what to expect abit from being the role. I'm thinking of being a pitfighter born on a penalty planet. Won her Warrent of trade through a bet with a rogue trader

>>44878160
>Won her Warrent of trade through a bet with a rogue trader

Holy shit, that must have been a bet to end all bets.

>>44877043
gtfo to /b/ german cuck

>>44878157
Craft mad inventions and trick out ship's warpdrive, whether local cogboys want it or not.

>>44878160
No rogue trader would respect such bet willingly. Giving away the licence to go everywher you want and do everything you want to some unwashed pitnigger just because he outbet you? I'd shank the fucker (not personally, obviously) and be done with it.

>>44878201
Mad inventions, like what?

Cogboys have all been replaced steadily by ork boys and gretchins over the past 3 months. I practically OWN the ship sans the command deck and living quarters.

>>44878201
>>44878185
See that's the thing....that's the back story the would be Gm asked me to include. I'm kinda worried about it because I've read up on rogue traders and I kinda agree

>>44878160
What was your side of the bet? Selling your entire planet into slavery? Even that might not be 1:1 value

>>44878226
Then start working on a mechanized ork army in the hidden corners and holds of the ship. Finally, when the time comes, just stroll up to the puny 'umies, and give them an ultimatum: they can submit and tag along, or be the first victims of your WAAAAAAAAAGH

>>44878270
Well the only thing I have because of the origin path is an implant that gives me +6 to any characteristic other then that was told to come up with something, but what the fuck do I have that a trader couldn't buy?

>>44878201
>>44878160

What you could do is have your character earning a favour and a gratitude of a RT, enough to be taken into their crew on a serious position. From there, you could plot/con/inttriguemurder your way into a position of inheritance, earned enough popularity and influence in the flotilla (being a pit fighter doesn't mean you can't be smart, manipulative and crafty), and after a sudden death of the RT, which you may or may not have a hand in, you eliminated the remaining competition and assumed the mantle of a RT yourself.

However, roleplaying a character that can pull something like that is going to be very difficult, but if you're up to it, go for it. You're a pitbull with a mind of a snake, cunning, savvy, tenacious and aboslutely rutheless, heartless and remorseless. You have vision, foresight, , and always aim for the top, get what you want ant take names, and those that go against you inevitably get their lives ruined. You obviously have some charisma, but it's a charisma of a brute, animal, king of all beasts. You rule less through charm and more through fear and promise of reward.

In short, go for a "gang lord" RT.

NPCs get fatigued like PCs, right? I can knock enemies unconscious just like they can knock me out, right?

>>44878385
Yes

>>44878377
I like this better, I'm going to suggest it to the gm, I wanted play a person who cloak and daggeed her way into power before I was told the whole bet thing

>>44856926

Kan man inte vara med på skype? För det råkar inte vara i Örebro misstänker jag.

>>44878353
A little bauble, perhaps of xenos origin. You are not sure what it is- but the Rogue Trader wanted it. He wanted it at all costs.

Your GM will probley like that one.

>>44878463
I could do this with the other as well.. I'm messaging him now to see if I can combine something

>>44878396
Thank god! I was afraid I had to figure out another way to capture enemies alive

>>44878653
Just keep in mind that some creatures are immune to fatigue. Daemons, creatures with machine trait and other such things are immune to effects of fatigue.

>>44878532
So, thank you guys for some imput. Gm likes the idea, so basically a pit fighter from a penal planet, she won a bet that placed her on to the RT's ship and then cloak and dagger education her way up the chain until she basically put herself next in line, once the RT died she eliminated any opposition and got the warrant. Though the dynasty is dying (only 20 profit starting ) but got a big ship (70 sp)

>>44879151
Fucking autocorrect... cloak and daggered not dagger education

>>44879151
You're welcome anon, have fun and be awesome.

>>44878653
>>44878826
You'll want a weapon with Shocking, because that causes Fatigue, and/or a weapon with Snare, because that makes them helpless, if you want to capture things. Toss on some manacles and you're a bounty hunting machine.

>>44879251
Don't forget Stun grenades and other weapons with Concussion effects. They don't cause fatigue, but make stunning easier.

>>44879281
So electrified bolas with the balls replaced with stun grenades. Shouldn't actually be too bad to acquire.

>>44879251
>You'll want a weapon with Shocking, because that causes Fatigue
What if I used a shock weapon to preform a stun attack, wouldn't that cause 2 points of fatigue or are the two incompatible?

>>44879474
That'd be up to your gm

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This is probably more of a general GMing question then a 40k one, but we're play Black Crusade and everyone is feeling very helpful today so here I go.

As the GM I feel like I've been doing a lot of the heavy lifting when it comes to combat description. I understand it's up to me to make a simple exchange with orks flashy and interesting and I try my best but this is how some of our last combat went:

>Alright you have an ork horde barreling down the scrap heap at the group of you roll init, alright top of the order player A you're up

>Player A: I shoot my bolter ( rolls several DoS)

>As your bolter rounds crash into the sea of green you see several boyz go down. There is even an instance of ones choppa being shot out of his hand, crushing a gretchin.
>Unfazed by the death of those in the front, those behind trample over their corpses and engage you in melee just like Gork N Mork intended (players take some damage as the horde attacks) player B, you're up

>Player B: I attack with my powersword (rolls a ridiculous amount of DoS)

>Suddenly you are met with a bloodcurdling howl over your vox, as the three of you duck and look around you see Player B go on a killing rampage. You have seen him perform astounding feats in combat before, but you did not know a marine of his size and strength could move so quickly. Ceramite fists crash into ork bodies as his power sword arm skewers another. In a single fluid motion a sweeping blow turns into a leg sweep that ends in a wet crunch as Player B is surrounded by Ork bodies they seem to break into a dead sprint away from the gore covered beast ( Orkz break because of massive casualties)

>Player B: neat

Maybe it's just me bitching, but I wish my players gave me a little more feedback and stuff then, I roll x. I've been trying to work on my RPing and combat descriptors, but it feels like a bit of a waste when all I get back is a neat. Not even a one liner in character /endrant

>>44881027
I guess what I'm asking is how do you engage your players to give you any sort of descriptor or RP in the 40k games? I've played with these guys for years and they're great, got all the rules down, make cool character backstories. Hell I told them to write up potential story hooks in the form of relics that they carry and they blew me away.

That being said I still can't get them to do anything more then, I roll x to do y.

>>44881027
>>44881070
I generally get them to think how they've killed the 'x' and then have them describe it. Slow RP days it seems to help jar people back into thinking about more than just "Roll y to succeed at z". Plus it often turns into a game of one-up as everyone tries to outdo the last one.

>>44881027
I suffer this problem as well. Even worse is that the other game we play is Edge of the Empire and the players just don't seem to want to take a hand in reading what the die results do and suggest how it unfolds. aaaaaaaaaaaaaa

>>44866815
Have everything planned out for your first session, but make sure that the majority of your clues don't need to follow a particular order. Naturally, some will lead into others, but it being an open-world investigation game, it should be far from linear.
For my first time GMing or even just playing tabletop period, I contrived a large scale plot involving a remote feudal world, whereupon a string of strangely conducted murders (via autosanguine) aimed at inciting unrest posed a threat to the success of the imperial tithing. The players ignored all of my well placed flags, and decided that the first thing they wanted to do was go to a late-game boss room packed full of criminal baddies and announce that they're from the inquisition. Nonetheless, I found a way to give them clues from there, and made the plot flow like a motherfucker.
Long story short, they discovered the murderers were a red flag operation conducted by a local prominent noble, designed to incite war with a local bunch of tribals and pinned upon a local tech gang coalescing to a faction of the PDF. The noble himself was being manipulated by Tzeench cultists who had infiltrated the society long ago, and this entire time had been precipitating unrest in order to draw local attentions away from the nearby diggings of a local explorator who had turned to chaos. The explorator was using his contingent of servitors to excavate the buried ruins of a space craft which had crashed on the world during the Dark Age of Technology, and contained (amongst countless other heretical artifacts) a massive warp-based mech suit. The mech suit was just weeks away from being successfully salvaged and made operational, and evidently possessed war-changing power. What the acolytes never found out was the intentions of the Tezeench cultists to turn it into an avatar for their god (or at least a greater daemon), which would sow discord and increase their god's strength.
(cont)

>>44881730
eww this is a wall of text.

But anyways, the acolytes next actions were effectively the same in either case. They spent the next weeks resolving local disputes and power struggles, generally playing politics; all for the purpose of obtaining the tribals', pdf's, household guards, mechanicus', etc support and troops for use in a massive combat versus the heavily dug-in explorator and his mercs.

And this is all between them insisting on interjecting in domestic disputes, romances, small time quests, etc in order to generally improve the general quality of life on that planet.

That all ended up taking quite a lot of time (being the new GM, I didn't realize it would take us so long to resolve all of that... I seriously thought it would be a 2-4 session campaign). What makes us all salty to this day, is that we weren't able to finish the game. The acolytes had all just secured the loyalties of the various factions, and we ended up leaving off with them IN THE PROCESS of flying to the final battle.

Eh, actually, a lot of this isn't really advice for you. I guess I just posted this story time on a whim.

>>44881863
I guess my point is, be flexible. I knew what was going on in my plot, but my world had a near modular nature. Wherever my players went, there were plot hooks to tie them into this twisted web, which would yield further clues, and a few potential leads to follow up with other sub-plots.

It's no wonder that it took us 12 4-7 hour sessions to not finish... But that was more due to how much content I had packed into that story, more than this style of DMing. My players fucking loved it.

Additionally, I can't stress enough that you should never be afraid to go too big. After dealing with a moderately rules-heavy system like Dark Heresy with a heavy plot during my first time ever playing tabletop, I feel more than prepared to deal with anything players can throw my way. Trial by fire, anon.

>>44881027
I wouldn't really see the point in giving elaborate descriptions of how you attack or stuff like that before rolling, if you fail it's wasted effort, and even if it succeeds just saying the combat action you want to perform is easier and makes it perfectly clear what is it you're trying to achieve.

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This is how the All Sisters Party handles Heresy. Or at least one of them, anyways.

>>44882674
Excellent ida. Going to make a flow chart for my Rogue Trader group.

Hint, it always ends with killing anyone that isn't a PC, taking their shit and moving on.

I recall reading somewhere that the Black Ships use a psyker potential limiting drug so that the whole ship doesn't become a warp storm on it's own with all those unbound psykers on board, does anyone know about this drug?

>>44882859
I seem to remember it doesn't suppress their powers, it just renders them almost completely incapable of concentrating.
Which combined with the Psy-Dampers and Blanks results in a pretty effective countermeasure.

>>44878462
Tyvärr, i Göteborg. Och med begränsad (=ingen) möjlighet till Skype.

>>44883639

lugna gatan!

>>44878462
>>44883639
>>44883721
Gå och var bork bork någon annanstans.

>>44883761

;_; the pains of living in a small town. There is no one around to play with.

>>44882674
There needs to be a Black Crusade flowchart.

>>44882674
I am intrigued and wish to know more. For example, who is sister Lucy?

>>44883812
Örebro is not that small for Sweden. And in my experience, it depends. I live in a town of 15 thousand or so, thriving geek community here.

In OW, can you heal comrades through the first aid use of medicade and some psychic powers?

>>44883990
>heal comrades through the first aid use of medicade and some psychic powers?
>Psychic powers
Without biomancy or mental health?

>>44884050
Well, biomancy.

>>44884106
I'm sure you go do it then.

>>44883884
She's the party's face and happens to dig Eldar stuff. That may be due to the fact she was "forced" to cart around a Banshee's soul stone for awhile and had to listen to the Xenos laugh at her ass 24/7.

>>44884308
That's now how Soul Stones work...

>>44884333
How do you think Wraithlords and such work? They literally just throw a spirit stone into a wraithbone construct and point it at an enemy. It's not that far-fetched to have the psychic "soul" interface with the outside world.

>>44884333

Soulstones are delicious candy that orks greatly enjoy.

>>44882787
Make a Navigator flowchart.

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>>44882787

So far, there's a Rogue Trader flowchart, a Sisters flowchart, and a Necron Ancient Codes flowchart. We still need a Black Crusade and a Guardsman flowchart.

>>44885659

Actually fairly close to what my group does...until the looting part. Then we need a special chart for the Explorator and the Arch-Militant. Also one for when people get injured or fail a Fear test.

>>44885508
And people wonder why everyone is so keen on having orks exterminated.

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So /tg/, I'm a GM for Only War, and I'm trying to think up the background for my players' regiment, and I'm looking for some ideas. The information I already have is as follows:

Homeworld: Post-Cataclysmic, specifically with a "Mad Max" type feel to it, scavenging, stealth, and survival is the name of the game. As for the name of the planet, I'm trying to come up with a name that would be in an out of the way system but would be more numbered than named, something like "Epsilon Theta 6" or something. That being said, if anyone has any fitting homeworlds that already exist in the fluff, I'm more than happy to change it to one of those.

Regimental Commander: Bilious, so I have the image of a constantly irritated Colonel (maybe he has hemorrhoids) but is still relatively competent. Colonel Gyles is the name I have in mind.

Regiment Type: Guerrilla. I'm planning on having the players be a special missions squad, with mission types ranging from infiltration, extraction, assassination, all the way to sabotage and demolition, but with very little if any line fighting.

For their special doctrines, they get Augmetics, making it easier to get bionic implants and replacements, in keeping with the kind of scavver/cobbled together feel of their home world, and Covert Strike, giving them free synskins and preysense goggles, and making it easier for them to get stealth equipment from the munitorum.

Their regimental drawback is Honor Bound, which makes them have to take a willpower test at -10 to refuse a direct challenge or an insult to their or their regiment's honor. I'd fit this into their homeworld as being as a result that all a person would have there is their word, having little else to barter with.

All in all, I have Mad Max type scavvers decked out in high tech augmetics and stealth equipment running raids/assassinations/demolitions/extractions behind enemy lines.

Just looking for some ideas for background fluff about the regiment.

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>>44881677
Good God, I can only imagine that horror, especially with Edge of the Empire's fucking fantastic dice system (that doesn't help if your players are unimaginative retards).

>>44885659
Now I want to get a friend of mine and play one of these games with some other people online.

>>44874969
>an expert moonshiner was seriously a request for a retainer by Maksimovs player
Maksimov's player here, I might as well post the list I made of my retainers and the reasons I needed them.
50 men at arms to scourge the foe with and keep my people safe, equipped with carapace armor, riot shields, and chainswords for maximum knightliness.
30 Sacristans to keep the armor fixed and my people equipped with tech items
5 loyal Ministorum priests for the blessing of arms, holy recitation of grudges and hatreds, and burning things.
1 loremaster to keep the book of grudges updated and remind me what I hate and why
2 archivists to hold the book up while the archivist updates it and assist him in other items of business when he needs them.
2 flagbearers to blow trumpets and look intimidating at official functions
1 excellent moonshine brewer able to convert various technological garbage and organic refuse into good vintage
1 butler to keep track of everything and be sarcastic at people
1 diplomat to apologize for things I do not actually feel sorry for
1 barber for the maintenance of glorious manly hair and beard
1 tailor for glorious medieval outfits
1 young and androgynous squire for various tasks and the inevitable jokes
1 musician to compose songs of glorious deeds
1 cook to convert hellish foreign food into familiar items
1 beastmaster to take care of my dogs and grox
1 healer to apply tried and true tested methods of healing such as balancing the humours
15 barely-tamed wolfdogs and various pups to remind me of home, intimidate people, and feed heretics with. Also emergency food supplies, as is tradition.
5 hairy groxes to remind me of home, stink up a quarter of the ship, and start arguments among biologists whethere they're actually grox or something else.

I'm playing a member of the Adeptus Arbites and I don't know much about 40k

How do I arbitrate correctly?

I already watched Dredd

>>44888210
LAW

>>44888239
I'm playing a felinid to try and lighten the grimdark mood

I'm an officer of the paw, sworn to purrtect and serve

>>44888300
In that case, change my answer to SUICIDE

>>44887366
I suppose you haven't yet come up with the cataclysm that destroyed their homeworld.

Here's a possible idea: for one reason or another, perhaps a sudden, overwhelming Ork or Tyranid or Chaos invasion, the planet was at risk of being utterly consumed. Thus, an Inquisitorial ship with a Cyclonic torpedo on board was deployed to perform Exterminatus immediately if the war is determined unwinnable. However, in an orbital battle, this vessel was downed and crashed into the planet, with the not yet fully primed Cyclonic torpedo not going off properly but getting damaged enough (or perhaps its already humongously powerful detonator was the one to go off, but since it was not inserted into the warhead, the full payload did not trigger) to unleash a devastating firestorm across most of the planetary surface regardless. This has proven enough to annihilate the invading force, as well as most of the biosphere, but the small chunk of the populace that was cowering in ancient bunker systems underground did survive, and the Imperium decided that this was a good enough outcome, and so the only tithe the planet can offer anymore is hardy survivors for the guard.

>>44887550
I seriously need to make a list like this for RT. Probably slightly less... tongue-in-cheek, I guess.
I really enjoyed the loremaster, butler, and diplomat.
"Percy! Write this man's name in the book."

>>44888370
I'm overplaying the puns by 110%. It's a completely serious character.

>>44888383
Brilliant, I'm stealing it, except that the planet was exterminatus'd on purpose Space Battleship Yamato 2199 style.

>>44888583
First of all, pick ONE of those
Second, fellate a MULTIMELTA

>>44888394
The ancestral book of grudges is also large and sturdy enough to require assistants to hold it still while someone writes in it, and doubles as Maximov's personal-combat melee weapon. It counts as a mono-upgraded warhammer.

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>>44888210
>>44888300
Don't end up like this.

>>44889188
Just how big is this book?

>>44889476
I won't. The other members of the group are two sororitas, a mutie and a male psyker.

>>44889476
What's with japs and ugly men in porn? I know that western male pornstars aren't good looking neither but they are just taking a piss with this shit.

>>44889522
Don't let the Sororitas end like that then.

>>44889587
The mutant female too. Psyker Harem gogo.

>>44889587
But those old men could be priests.

>>44889547
The one in the back doesn't look so bad compared to the rest.
>>44889602
Luckiest psyker in the Imperium as of now.
>>44889613
Then that puts a wrench in my train of thought. On one hand it's probably heresy, and on the other hand it probably won't help the SoBs paying off their student loans.

>>44889661
No...one of the sisters is a Null.

>>44889661
There is no vow of chastity in the adepta sororitas at large.

>>44889690
That leaves a question there. Just how null is she?

>>44889702
My mistake.

>>44889690
Is this for DH 2e? If so, she has an effective fellowship of 1 with the psyker.

>>44889690
Get her pregnant.

It'd make the kid void born ;)

>>44850930
Alright, does this sound like a decent idea for a Rogue Trader?

> Underclass, manufactorum worker on a hive planet, due to an Adminstratum cock up, has now been given a Writ of Trade
> No major connection to either assorted Hive gangs or specific noble families, simply a poor hive worker accidentally elevated to a position of ridiculous power
>Given a crappy merchant ship by the local nobility as something as a joke and insult in regards to his new position.

Does this sound like it could be fun or not?

>>44889885
yes.
now pimp that ship up

Should an all Nurgle-aligned Black Crusade game basically end up as a more involved Plague Inc game?

There is no story behind this question, it is just a thought.

>>44889478
You know those huge illuminated coffee-table bibles? Imagine one of those, with the cover made of solid metal and the pages heavily reinforced, and every page is full of ancient grudges and the crimes that caused them to be sworn.

>>44889885
>due to an Adminstratum cock up, has now been given a Writ of Trade
No not at all as that's not how writs of trade are done, the administratum doesn't issue those, they are signed and issued by the highlords of terra themselves

>>44890326
>Pages heavily reinforced
What?

>>44890438
Weaving metal threads and such into thick paper to make sure it's resistant to tearing and getting wet, shit like that.

>>44890436

So a Rogue trader died and the administratum was in charge of legally transferring the deed to the next of kin.
They fucked up and now the poor guy has it.
Boom, there you go.

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>>44885609
It'd be a short chart

>>44890808
again not how that works.
Why are you playing RT when you know NOTHING about how Rogue Trader Dynasties function?

>>44890879
Only if you're a pussy navigator that doesnt leverage the fact his imperial standing and the profit favor of his house is likely to be far higher than that of the RT.

Hey, i'm looking for some stats on archaeotech jump packs and power armor that were included in one of Rogue Trader's adventures - i think its lure of the expanse, maybe another?

If someone has a page number or can point me in the direction, i'd seriously appreciate it. Fuck unsearchable pdfs

>>44892004
The Archeotech loot from Lure of the Expanse is on page 82, however none of it's Power Armour or a Jump Pack.

I also don't remember any such Archeotech existing in the other books either. It's worth considering making your own though, Archeotech is in no way uniform. There's even rules for it in Stars of Inequity, pages 83 to 92.

>>44891047
The Navigator's house itself may be more powerful than the Rogue Trader, but the Navigator himself is a mere envoy of the house itself (rather than its true leader, as the Rogue Trader is), and in a position that the Navis Nobilite would murder millions for.

Travelling with a Rogue Trader house provides the opportunity to chart previously unknown Warp Routes, the charts for which can make or break entire houses. What's more, keeping the Rogue Trader in your good graces means that he'll likely use your House to provide Navigators for his further ships travelling along those routes.

Navigators and Rogue Traders exist in a symbiotic relationship, If a Navigator ruins that relationship through his own petty bullshit? His House may just have him replaced, depending on how important he is.

>>44892383
I'm not talking about ruining it.

But symbiosis also doesn't mean that you just sit on your ass in the ship forever because the guy won't let you do shit.

You've every right to disembark on an Imperial World and enjoy the comforts due to the nobility, as well as plenty of other freedoms.

You're not even formally bound by most Imperial laws or authorities as a Navis Nobilite.

Most people just seem to think the Navigator is a scrub that isn't allowed to leave his Sanctum and has no agency.

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>Decide to check out the vehicle section in Shield of Humanity
>See this
What the absolute fuck?

This is even more inexcusable since there are stats for the damn thing in the ranged weapons section.

The supposed twin-linked lascannon on the tauros venator doesn't have the twin-linked quality either.

>>44893206
>What the absolute fuck?
Oh my, FFG has shitty editing.
Who would have thought.

How does jumping work in DH? Like jumping over w gap/platform etc...
Asking so I do not have to ask the GM every now and again

>>44874240
"Tank!" from the Cowboy Bebop soundtrack? I could see a bunch of Acolytes crashing through a crowded market chasing a heretic to that music...

>>44889885
Ignore the haters. Yeah, this ain't "cannon", but it's funny and fits with the black humor of the setting.
Say this was one in a million. Say that the old Rogue died along with most of his family, and that due to some bizarre shenanigans this schlub is the universally recognized heir to one of the mightiest Rogue Trader houses in the sector.
So now a person with no skills, no knowledge, and no bloodline is in charge of a battleship with near unlimited authority, and has a cadre of extremely dangerous men and women technically at their beck and call. What could go wrong?


Obvious twist: OF COURSE it wasn't for real. OF COURSE it was the real heir's secret ploy, as part of some elaborate plan to wrong foot their enemies, and they'll be coming to retake dear old dead grandad's ship quite soon.
The only hitch is that by this point in the campaign, the crew has come to rather like this scrub they picked up. So now there's a fight brewing between the "legitimate" heir, and the scrub and the other, hardcore pcs who have become loyal to them.

Honestly, this sounds awesome and funny to me. Go for it anon.

>>44894228
I would totally play in this game. Very much especially if he played as super naive and makes bestest buds with random members of the crew instead of using and abusing them. Inspire loyalty through comisseration and craps games. Spending fluff money on improving crew conditions (speaking of- I've looked and maybe I missed it but crew housing options RaW are limited to bad, worse, and torturous.) I think it would work well even in a mostly serious non-slav game.

>>44888383
>This has proven enough to annihilate the invading force, as well as most of the biosphere, but the small chunk of the populace that was cowering in ancient bunker systems underground did survive, and the Imperium decided that this was a good enough outcome, and so the only tithe the planet can offer anymore is hardy survivors for the guard.
Sounds like Krieg.

>>44889781
GM of this clusterfuck of a game, I don't think that is happening, but dammit if my players are not goddamn crazy enough to try it...

>>44894449
With the exception that the surface is not irradiated, just a Mad Max shithole

How do I run a top gun-ish game in only war?

>>44895827

Do they even have rules for fighter squadrons in only war?

>>44890967
Because multiple agencies and organizations in the Imperium running around in circles to get hold of a warrant of trade is totally unheard of. Possession of one can be far from granted, if someone either fucks up or fucks you up the warrant could go anywhere during the succession.

>>44894316
Purely in core, you can get "penalty-free" housing as your best option, and a slight bonus with some real fancy ass life support system. I think there's a decent living space component in some splat books.

There's also "noble" quarters for passengers and stuff that will actually drop crew morale out of jealousy.

I can tell you that if you use the Navis Primer rules for warp travel (and everyone should), you start caring a little more about Crew Morale.

>>44897571
The same organization in charge of enforcing the Warrant's obligation should deal with it.

>>44897732
I'd like to stress the word "should" in your post

Question from a noob, just starting to learn RT: what part(s) of the core rules should be thrown out/enhanced by other books? Apparently Warp travel from Navis Primer, but anything else?

In Dark Heresy 2e, if I have a balanced sword and a shield, do they stack for parrying?

If no, if I have an unbalanced weapon and a shield, does that mean I can parry with the shield and not worry about the unbalanced modifier?

So for DH2: Electric Boogaloo, I'm looking at making a priest style character. However, the GM put some hard restrictions on the roles. This restricts Judge Dredd, Tech-Priests, and normal priests. Is there any good alternative for playing a priest like character?

>>44897944
Perhaps a guardsman from a shrine world that speaks about how the Emperor saved him mulitple times on the battlefield?

>>44897944
>>44897984
Make the sniper from saving private ryan and go around giving last rites through lead and fire

>>44897944
why are you playing with such a GM?

>>44897913
I was the one to bring up NP Warp Travel.

It boils down to:

Do you want Warp travel to be a fairly quick, mostly side thing that's done in a couple rolls? (And also has one roll that will allow you to stack the entire thing in your favor) If yes, use Core rules.


Do you want Warp Travel to be a dangerous undertaking and adventure in its own (Quote: "The order to enter Warp space is the most dangerous command a starship's captain can give.") that will challenge both the Navigator and the crew as a whole, but also offer the chance to increase your PF by charting new routes and in general offers more consistency and interaction? If yes, use Navis Primer.

Just be sure everyone knows what you're going with first, as it will change what skills the Navigator will have to roll as his primary checks, and adds a couple ritual steps for both him, the RT/Missionary, a new check involving the Pilot, etc.

However, warp travel will also be a lot more dangerous if you consistently forego the use of charted routes, or fail to prepare for an uncharted journey to make things smoother.

And a minor gripe is that Trade (Astrographer) got basically completely phased out in those rules. It may be worth houseruling that THAT is what's used to make charts, instead of just Navigation, but also changing it to be based off INT, not AG like it is for some reason.

>>44897944
Tzeentch is always looking for new clergy mate. Worshippers welcome 24/7. We cover all your religious needs when others fail to provide.

>>44897944
Ask your GM why he's restricting those roles. He might not want priest style characters.

>>44897934
The modifiers only matter for the specific weapon, unless stated otherwise in their description.

>>44898036
Well, he isn't restricting them merely as a, "Fuck you". He has a plan for an interesting campaign, but I guess the aforementioned restrictions just wouldn't work at all.

>>44897984
Like a former torchbearer?

>>44897934
>if I have a balanced sword and a shield, do they stack for parrying?
I'd say they do, you use both for defending yourself after all
>if I have an unbalanced weapon and a shield, does that mean I can parry with the shield and not worry about the unbalanced modifier?
You'd only get the bonus from the shield then, but yeah you could, that's the point of having it in the first place

>>44898070
Thanks. Part of the confusion is that Defensive explicitly says when the weapon is used to parry, but Balanced just says it gives you a +10 balance when you have a balanced weapon.

>>44898102
Cool, thanks.

I tried to google this shit first, but I think everyone was talking about 1e.


So if I have my math right, if I'm untrained in parry I take a -20, but if I have a sword and shield then I have +25, meaning that, if my Agility and Weapon Skill are the same, and I have training in Dodge, I should still Parry if I'm in melee.

>>44888394
It's always nice not to forget stuff like the Explorator and Navigator both being "mini factions" on the RTs ship, with the Explorator having his little mechanicus congregation (he is a priest after all) and the Navigator having bodyguards and servants loyal to and paid by the Navis house to protect their genetic asset and navigational charts locked in the spire.

Missionary can make his own little breakaway group too.

AM and VM shack up with the lowerdecks guys that also only speak Low Gothic.

Seneschal informs about all those fucks by having his own little group of paid off crewmen spies.

Astropath is in on everyones shit because he gets to listen to everyones phone conversation.

RT has no one except the knowledge that a solid 10 or so people on the ship are probably assassins sent by his own dynasty to fuck him up if he risks the warrant.

So, I'm kinda getting the hang of playing an Ork, but I noticed they're kind of shit at shooting. Both in their intrinsic Ballistic skills and weapons.

Or maybe I'm missing something.

The guns all seem to be very little pen.

Like, the biggest pen rating is 1 on a Big shoota.

Sluggas and Shootas are 0..

How can get some firepower?

>>44898546
Have you tried painting it yellow?

Any suggestions how to run an intrigue-heavy political campaign using necrons?

>>44898546
Their guns kind of compensate by having high ranges and high damage. But yeah, dakka is for making noise, and orks are truly dangerous in melee.

>>44898546
Have you looked into calling it dakka?

>using necrons?
As protagonists or a plot device?

If former - just like any intrigue-politic campaign, except you can't poison your adversary.

If latter - just run an ordinary intrigue-politic campaign, then throw necrons at them at the very worst moment.

>>44898824
>throw necrons at them at the very worst moment.

All the time?

>>44898981
Whenever they fail to provide high quality roleplay and a moment grows awkward or stale there is a necron ambush.

With no mercy and no exceptions.

Condition them into delivering shakespeare-tier dialogue at all times to avoid terror.

>>44898824
hi anon, should have said that, sorry.

I intend to rip NPC profiles out of the Outer Reach Deathwatch book and let the players control them. I think not bothering with any advances to reflect static nature of Necron mindset, as in them being unable or unwilling obtaining new skills or improving themselves.

I've already red Machiavelli's Prince. Anything else I should throw in besides a senile overlord?

>>44889547
Male porn actors in Jap shit are entirely about self-insertion, so it's rare you find a decent looking dude in them.
You need to be able to do 3 things:
Show up
Get it hard and keep it there
Have a decent moneyshot
>not including "Be Japanese" and "Do whatever you are told" because they are given

>>44899651
>Male porn actors in Jap shit are entirely about self-insertion
But why do Japs have such shatteringly bad self-esteem that they can only insert into Asian Danny Devito?

Do ships in 40k fly fast enough in sub-warp flight to experience some amount of time dilation?

>>44899690
Well, they can cross from the edge of a system to the life zone in about a week. I legit have no idea how fast that is.

>>44893717
Roll athletics.
Distance is 1/2 S in meters, +1 per DoS.

>>44899689
Because very few of them have actual social lives, Japan is a fucking weird culture and it's a sort of self-fulfilling prophecy really. They pay for affection, not sex.

>>44898036
He's clearly tryong to restrict the players from having connections to the Adeptus at large.

>>44898170
>So if I have my math right, if I'm untrained in parry I take a -20, but if I have a sword and shield then I have +25
I have never seen anyone add the parry bonuses together, as they are added by the item you are using to parry.

>>44899689
Have you seen an ACTUAL average japanese dude?

>>44899423
Reading Prince should be your players' job and not yours, they need it more.

You could throw in a non-senile overlord. "Senile overlord" is a lazy way of letting players occupy a rather self-aggrandazing spot of a behind-the-cenes manipulators without needing to work for it. Or a sign of a weak-willed GM, who is afraid to entrust their players wth actual leadership positions but is also too afraid to place someone with a position of nominal authority over PCs, in fear of hearing "railroad". "muh player agency", "DMPC pls go" and other buzzwords.

Either let your players be rulers of their dynasty, or put an actually non-demented overlord above them. He may not necessary be sane, but make him coherent - someone who players will have to take into account, and maybe find ways of working around or bring down if they're ambicious enough. Make him an obstacle, an actual challenge, and maybe a plot device. But be fair - if your players make good efforts to overcome him have them succeed. Make him challenging, not unbeatable.

His power may come from two sources - direct might, as being a necron noble he could afford a good-quality body with lots of trinkets to come with it; and his authority over his dynasty, if your players decide to contend with him they will have to beat down more than just him, but his varguards as well (unless they are varguards themselves).

Besides Outer Reaches, look intoFear and Loathing and The Fringe is yours in OP for homebrewed playable necrons, whole with advance tables and other stuff. May give you some ideas. Also, one of BC premade adventures (forgot which) has players descending into a necron tomb. The material in that module should give you a good insight into political climate in an average necron dystance, as well as workings of a necron tomb.

>>44900187

What you actually need to do, beyond reading /tg/ homebrew and theorycrafting by long-dead italians that weren't as good at their jobs as they are hyped as, is work ut all of the background characters, groups, forces and factors, both within the dynasty and outside of it. How they deal with each other, what their opinions of each other, what their immediate actions, plans and golas would be. If you're going to make an politic-intiruge, that you need is to craft a preexisitng political climate to throw your PCs in.

This is an aspect that you cannot really overwork. Make it as byzanthine or as straightforward as you're comfortable with, but you absolutely need to flesh it out before you set your players loose. This way your setting can react to their actions in a fair and consistent way.

>>44899651
Plus japanes culture has this fetish of "beatifull being defiled by ugly", like when a young and innocent maiden is ravaged by a bunch of ugly brutes (See Kuroinu). The facts that it doesn't really look like that but rather than what, well, what we have, is a whole different thing.

How do you deal with Warp Speed /tg/? The party psyker just picked it up and the other two melee folks are feeling pretty useless, and being the pyromancer/telekinetic in the group it makes it hard to see either of those disciplines as all that great anymore. Last night we watched in horror as he dismantled a Chaos Space Marine, and now the other people in the party are afraid they're going to get fucked over in order to deal with the one guy.

>>44900822
Introduce counterpsykers, sorcerers and or areas where veil is thin. Your player can still use his ability, but with heighetened risk of perils and consequences.

>>44900822
what other talents and skills did he have? Unnatural BS and WS is okay, but how exactly did he do that?

>>44901004
That's the thing, I'm not the GM. My fellow players and I are simply concerned that this kind of power is going to make things overtuned and end up killing the rest of the group as well as myself. I'm starting to think that the other combat oriented disciplines got the short end of the stick compared to Biomancy, since this guy was able to essentially turn himself into an Astartes meat grinder with two power swords. In addition to that he takes a hit like a champ. He has essentially rendered the rest of the group invalid in terms of combat ability, while still being decent in the investigation aspect of the game. It is somewhat frustrating.

>>44901050
Lightning Attack and Two Weapon Master. Every time he got at least one DoS, it was an additional 5 hits.

>>44901172
So he basically netlisted the strongest character option in the game.
Let him have his fun, actually. And let it sink him. You get good, you get enemies. Those enemies start coming after him. Coming after his successes.

>>44901155
Suggest to the DM some Null introduction, depending on his character's backstory making such a big wave could get the Sisters of Silence start to look for him.

>>44901386
no need to go overboard with nulls, just psy-blocker or null rod.

>>44901264
That is exactly the problem though. If he gets good, then the rest of the party is the one who is going to pay for it.

Talking with my GM, we're thinking of Houseruling Warpspeed so that it only gives you an unnatural trait or half or a third, rounded up to make it more similar to Iron Arm. Is that reasonable?

>>44901514
Also works, any anti-psyker tech would be beneficial

>>44901531
I would not bother with houserules to be honest, there are other ways to deal with him without endangering the party. As stated, null rods, silver stakes, psy-blockers, Nulls themselves. There are many many options that can counter and disable the psyker

>>44901531
>then the rest of the party is the one who is going to pay for it.
Why, exactly?
You are playing BC, correct?
You are not playing a tight knit group, you are mercs working with each other. There is no worth targeting the group when all you want is one head.
Better, you can sell him down river yourself once he gets too big for his britches.

>>44901531
*at half or a third.

>>44901386
>>44901514
>>44901594
That's already happened to a degree since the biomancer and I are the two psykers in the party. They just get torn to shreds by him since he has Iron Arm on pretty much all the time.

>>44901612
This is DH2, I don't think Warpspeed is in BC.

>>44901691
I'm thinking Warp Time, then.
Oh, DH2? If that's the case, there are so many better ways to deal with a combat hound, I wouldn't be concerned about it.
Guess what?
Pinning.

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>>44901786
>thinking psykers care about pinning
kek

>>44901786
>pinning a character with 70 WP

>>44901833
They do when you get the drop on them.
3 guys with suppressive fire is 3 -20 WP tests. At best, you have less than 50/50 on each.

>>44901886
>DH2e
>70 WP
>assuming every character has absolute maxed out *whatever stat you need to inflate for the poor argument*
>only on the internet

>>44901922
>guy is playing a psyker
>psykers cheapest characteristic to advance and most important characteristic is WP
Yeah I'm 100% sure that psyker is running around with 20 WP bruh

>>44901691
Well it's time to have your DM stop playing fair then. If he is making the party feel irreverent by making a super PC, either talk to him OOC about it, have the DM talk to him about it, or the DM can start targeting him and him alone due to the waves he has made.

>>44902094
No, likely 50-60.
How exactly in DH2e are you getting 70 WP without taking from other game lines?

>>44902269
>50-60
>before all of his bullshit psyker bonuses
>getting pinned ever

>>44902295
Well, it's far from unreal. He has 30-40 chance to resist, which isn't that much and there's only one talent in DH2 that helps with Pinning tests. So a psyker can't really bullshit his way out of this one.

>>44902416
Don't say that, they need to pretend psykers are invincible.