>>44839230 My dad got me into wargaming. I found his 3rd edition warhammer fantasy stuff in the attic. I think he actually used me as an excuse to get back into the game under the pretense of 'spending quality time with my son' to my mother.
My mother is a Quaker, and therefore is fundamentally against violence, even simulated violence. However she's pretty big on personal freedom, so she supports me doing whatever makes me happy as long as it doesn't literally harm others. My father is glad I'm not following in his footsteps, I at least don't have a child at the same age as he was and nor do I have a heroin addiction.
My dad is weirded out by it, and will occasionally mock me about it, but he doesn't try to actively prohibit me.
My mom is perfectly fine with it, though she got scared when I got introduced to it because Satanism bullshit. In the end it worked out fine because I ended up getting to beta test a game that was made by the guy who first introduced me to tabletop stuff back when I was a kid.
>>44839230 >dad played AD&D with his buddies while they were in college >mom played with him but never got heavy into it >brother gets sick for awhile >parents spend weeks on and off staying with him >one week he gets particularly bad >parents have to leave at the same time >dad's old DM picks me up >really chill guy >worked in a water plant, retired early and kept working with nonprofit organizations as an engineer >let me play with his dog and eat junk food and watch cable for hours a day >but he chain smoked like a motherfucker, his voice was like gravel >gives me a big box of all his old books and screens >their old minis too >parents come home >say goodbye >he dies of a heart attack a couple months later >guy was 55 >still use the minis and I'm running an AD&D campaign in a couple of months This isn't so much a hobby to me at this point as it is a legacy.
My dad and his boss were the first ones to get me a real rpg book when I was recovering from a major back surgery about halfway through high school. My /tg/ obsession has spirals immensely since then, but I don't think he knows to what degree. My dad's so laid back about everything that I could knock up a stripper and he probably won't flinch.
My mom died before I reached high school, so she never got to see me become a fa/tg/uy.
I haven't spoken to my dad in a few years, but I imagine he would make fun of me for it.
My mom doesn't care. When I told her about it when I first got into it, she just stopped my awkward explanation and said "No drugs or anything else illegal involved, right? Ok, then whatever as long as you enjoy it."
My dad was against it at first because of demons and shit, but he's cool with it now. My mom died before I started playing, but she probably would have been cool with it because she was a big Tolkien fan.
>>44839230 >Mention I'm going to game night a few weeks ago >Grandma from South Carolina asks what game >Ohboyherewego.jpg >"Uh, it's nerdy stuff, you wouldn't recognize it" >"Aw, just tell me Anon, I might have." >Brace myself for scolding >*Sigh* "It's Dungeons and Dragons." >"Oh, I've heard of that." >Former preacher dad chimes in >"Anon, that's satanic," then laughs >Everything went better than expected >Later, mom asks if I had a good time >Yep, it was fun >"Well, did you win?"
So yeah, parents don't care at all. It probably helps that everyone in the group is from our church.
My parents were and are still very cool. Pop reads SciFi, fantasy, and military fiction, so he gets the settings. Ma doesn't understand how it works, but gets that it's about creativity and problem solving. They both think it's kind of nerdy, but also were happy that it was harmless fun when I was a kid. They know I still play and never comment on it except to ask if it's a game night or not when they want me to come over and visit.
My kids are/were into Magic and CCG type shit, which I dislike. I got some of my 40k models from one of my sons who abandoned them when he decided he hated everything and everyone around 16. I actually started playing 40k after he quit. I didn't play wargames as a kid, and initially disliked the idea because my exwife's boyfriend was into it and I guess I was jealous because he shared that with my kids. I got some of his old models too, which is ironic because I gave him a ton of 2ed AD&D stuff when I quit gaming for a while many years ago.
Pretty young single dad with a daughter. My parents never really minded though thought it was too expensive of a hobby. My daughter about old enough to start involving in tabletop, and she can definitely play board games. She enjoys the hobby, and it's my attempt to try to turn her from exclusively video games.
>>44839230 My parents are chill, playing some of the most popular boardgames themselves. Grandparents are a bit more interesting. They couldn't comprehend the idea of rpgs. When I picked up on ccgs they've instantly connected it to traditional card games and gambling. Hence not only > Did you win? but also > How much did you win?
>>44840085 >Why the fuck don't people just pull the cleric card? False gods! A friend of mine once mastered a game for some catholic clergymen. They were chill, just insisted on being Priests of Jesus Christ in DnD.
>>44840085 My dad was joking when he said that, if it wasn't clear. Neither of my parents actually think it's satanic, they both LOVE Lord of the Rings and are well aware that D&D is just another form of the fantasy genre.
So it really still happens. PnP and satanism, always thought it was old 60's stuff. Or maybe it's an american thing. Never heard of this before coming to /tg/ (French here). Personally both my parent don't care what I don't. Evenmore then think of this as social activity so better than vg.
I played with a priest who just played a cleric devoted to good in order to get around the whole picking a god thing.
He was in our group for a session for some charity thing and belonged to the same church as our DM. Don't remember the denomination. His cleric did do a good job keeping our asses alive while we fought mutant werewolves.
>>44839230 He got me into it, ran games for me and my brother all the time. We had a long running Chivalry and Sorcery campaign, it was fun stuff. I remember going into his study as a kid, flipping through giant shelves filled with source books and back issues of Dragon magazine.
God I want kids. Everyone else seems to want to wait till they're forty or something though.
>>44840318 It's not so much an American thing as certain parts of the US and Canada. I grew up on the coasts around major cities and I've never encountered this stuff in person either, but when you get into the really backwoods areas you can find pockets people who believe some truly shockingly stupid shit. It's also very generational. Young people here are overwhelmingly less religious than our parents were. I've never even heard of this stuff coming from anyone under the age of 40 or so. It's always parents, grandparents, uncles, etc.
>>44839230 My parents played DnD back in the 80s when they were military, so they both understand and accept it. They initially helped me get into the hobby, but I'm way deeper into it now than they were.
>>44840213 Her mother walked out on us after having her. Not sure why, we never got a reason or even a word about it. Thankfully my parents did most of the work for a few years since I was too young to be properly taking care of a baby.
I started when I was seven, i had just started a junior course at cartoon school and one of the teachers showed us how to draw D&D 3.0's core races and dragons using Lockwood's reference sheets.After browsing a few pages of the Monster Manual, I saw Reynolds' depiction of the iron and flesh golems and fell in love with the game.
My parents believed it was a tabletop game like competitive risk at first and dad even tried playing with me once. When they finally realized, they pulled the satanist game card and I passed my teenage years playing at my friends' houses to stay away from my parents' judgmental stares. They eventually stopped worrying as I had never committed any kind of crime or big misbehavior so they just believe I'm a lazy piece of shit who didn't want to go to college to follow his longlife dream of being a cartoonist.
I still play rpgs and since I started lurking here I have been getting much, much better at DMing. Thanks guys.
>>44839230 I don't like talking to my dad about my geeky hobbies, because despite the fact that we enjoy a lot of the same kind of stuff, I've never really seen him get excited about it or get invested in it the same way I do. And I feel like the "getting invested" part of it is a fundamental part of tabletop in particular. Also because he actually enjoys Big Bang Theory.
I wouldn't be surprised if I found out my mom was into it when she was young, because she had always been a huge lover of scifi and fantasy fiction. But she died before I actually got into tabletop, so I never thought to ask her.
>>44839230 My wife thinks I play poker or some shit with my friends. I never told my parents I was a roleplayer. Partly because I'm ashamed of this hobby, partly because noone in my country knows what it means (maybe a few who watched some stupid shows like Big Bang Theory).
>>44844609 Believe me, its better for you two to bond through a shared hobby than to have her grow disconnected from you like so many girls with daddy issues do.
I've been searching like crazy for something to share with my father so we can bond because we never actually share anything, but its been no good. Really, if she's interested in the same things as you you should encourage it. Just make sure she grows independent from you too lest your relationship grows unhealthily dependent.
But I wouldn't take anything I say too seriously. I am 21 and have no kids after all.
Still, I hope I can have a few kids in the future too. A boy and a girl would be great. I'd do and teach them so much stuff.
I'm 37 and am forever DM of our AD&D 1st Ed Greyhawk campaign. My boys are age 7 human fighter and age 9 half elf Cleric We also have my neighbor age 41 elf wizard and his son age 10 halfling thief round out the party. We play every Friday night while the females do craft night. this is the only night of tje week my boys are allowed junk food and soda.
Growing up I had to hide D&D from my overly Catholic mother. She was ok with Other FRPGs and other genres but no D&D!
>>44845398 If you want kids you should just tell her so, that you NEED them and that cannot resign yourself to not having them.
If you are the love of her life she should understand that its something important for you and will do it for your happiness. If she still says no maybe you should think what's most important for you, her or your future children.
If she'd be willing to let you go over not wanting kids she probably wasn't the one like you thought she was.
>>44845208 Are your parents pissed about gaming in the basement or are you living in the basement as well? My uncle is a carpenter, nearly 50. Smokes weed every day. Works about half the year. Cooks great pizza and lives with his parents my Grandparents who are in their 80s.
Kids have amazing imaginations. Once you get them into the story they become obsessed. I field story line questions all week long. It has also peaked the boys interest in history, math, cartography, vexology, heraldry, mythology, and fantasy in general. Before we started tabletop a little over a year ago I have did choose your own Adventure books and Heroquest board game to get them ready.
The first game night I wore my old hooded cloak from my SCA days in college and turned off all the lights in the basement which was lit with candles. I had made their characters with them already. When they comedown stairs I addressed them by their characters names. "Dad this is kind of scary"....IAM not your Dad I am your DUNGEON MASTER! evil laughter. They thought that was very corny and laughed, they absolutely love game night. And so do I.
My parents are cool with it. When I was coming up with plans for a modern military game, I ran them by my dad (a former army officer) to see if they were sound. That was actually a pretty fun conversation.
My mom thought that I would stop studying if I got into the hobby so she was initially against it. When I was still doing well in highschool she became OK with it. My dad doesn't really care, just happy I'm having fun. Tried to get me to talk about it once during lunch before I was leaving for school. I regret only kind of talking about it now. He was only trying to bond.
My son is 4 months old so he doesn't have an opinion. In fact I haven't played since he was born.
My wife is OK with it but it isn't her thing, I just have to spend my allotted pocket money for the month on it if I want new things (just like she has her pocket money for any hobby/music stuff she wants).
>>44847507 Then don't push it onto her. Just ease her into it like you would any kid into a new hobby, let her feel the waters for herself and figure out for herself if she actually enjoys it or just thinks that she does because her dad's in charge of it. Ask her if she likes magicians, or knights, or dragons, or animal-people, or any other classic fantasy staple you can think of. Ask her if she'd want to play around as it for a little bit once a week, and if so what she'd want to be. Give her some dice (2d10 and 5d6 should do the trick at first) and just let her mind go free; the sense of enjoyment should go before any mechanics. Have her decide what abilities she would have (for instance: Dragons can fly, breathe fire, bite people, and claw things, whereas Witches can charm people, talk with animals, and make all sorts of potions) and then bullshit some starting numbers: +3 to Magic, +1 to Swords, 25 hitpoints, whatever. Tell her she needs to beat a target number whenever she wants to do something cool, and then have her roll whatever dice you think works best. If she enjoys it, great! Keep doing this stuff with her, and eventually advance her to actual rules and games. If not, thank her and be happy in the fact that you gave her the chance to blossom. The important thing is: "YES, BUT..." let her try new things, and if she does something strange give her a complications; don't shut her down, but give her a challenge. Most importantly though, is let her have fun.
>>44839230 Mom's been alright with it mostly saw it as "aw he's finally making friends. Its weird and I don't get it but I'm happy for him." kind of thing. Dad was mostly the same way with a feint vaneer of mockery, but usually of the other friends that played it.
>>44839230 My dad is a total fa/tg/uy, and my mom shares my love for science fiction books. My folks are totally cool with /tg/ stuff. Finally was able to talk dad into giving 5th ed a shot, and he currently is playing a evil campaign with his old gaming buddies.
I'm a 27 year old with a BA in english who lives with his parents and runs roll20 campaign every other sunday. Everyone but my parents know about my hobby. I'm ashamed of myself and need a better paying job so I can move into an apartment with my g/f. But I can't stay away from writing/daydreaming about fantasy shit...
>>44848978 Oh man, taking parenting advice from 4chan. But you're right, I'll give it a shot, take it slow, see where it goes if it goes anywhere at all. So far the closest I've gone to sharing the /tg/life with her was a dragon plushie I got her.
>>44839230 Both of my parents are huge fantasy nerds. They have a legit library in their house and most of it is Brooks/Pratchett and other types. However, neither of them see the point of games that aren't "sports" so tabletop and vidya are both things that make their eyes gloss over. Also, when I was living with them during college, my mom forbade me from hosting games at our place because my friends acted like a bunch of drunken sailors. But beyond that, they're supportive because they know I love it. I just wish they would stop nagging me to "Get those games turned into books so you can do something productive with that imagination!" Somehow they forget that I never got above a C in english/Lit.
>>44839230 My father finds it awesome and asks me to tell him about games, but he doesn't have the time or patience to actually play. My stepmother doesn't care much for it, but she was really happy when I started the hobby cause I finally started to do something with living people.
My mother plays wizard elves, whatever the system is, and likes social interaction and investigation most.
>>44839230 I have played and still mostly play DnD with mostly close friends. My ever-expanding throve of WMH/Malifaux/Infinity minis on the other hand initially raised suspicion in my parents and later my girlfriends to follow. I just say its like a chess thing and that seems to work out so far.
My father plays with me in a weekly AD&D game whenever I'm home from college. He plays my character while I'm away.
My mother doesn't really get it, but she's happy that I'm being sociable and enjoying time with my friends. She's even willing to put up with my group meeting at the house while I'm home for breaks. She's a saintly woman.
>>44839230 My daughter really wants to play games with us, but I've told her she can't, until she learns to read a bit better (she's 4). I was talking to a friend about Eberron having dinosaur-riding cannibal halflings and she overheard, saying "Dad I think because that game has dinosaurs you should let me play." I've been trying to find a game I saw on /tg/ once that was really simple (like it was for kids), it was one page, and you had three hearts, Zelda style, and it only used d6.
My wife is part of a group of her friends that I GM for (that game is Numenera)
>>44847273 The median US *household* made a bit less than 54k in 2015, and obviously there are as many households that make below that as above. Throw in mortages, car payments, debt from student loans, medical bills and so forth (not to mention just buying too much shit), and even some folks above that level may not feel financially solid.
>>44839230 Both my parents respect and are sort of impressed of miniature painting and such. Both of them are into crafty things, so there's that.
Mom was mildly worried when I started playing RPGs, with the satanic scare from the 90s, but that went away quickly when she saw the people I played with and what we did. Now they both just think it's nice I get social and have fun.
I'll probably introduce any eventual kids to traditional games, and I'll try to see if my eventual niece/nephew will be interested.
>>44855350 This? I like the simple approach but think 2d6 + attribute is a bit mathy for little kids. I'd be tempted to do something like having a target number that is typically in the range of 3 to 5 (or over), and having the player roll take the better of 2 rolls, a single roll, or the worse of 2 rolls (depending on whether they're using their strongest, middle, or weakest attribute). For difficult or easy tasks, you could change the target number (typically raising or lowering it by a single point). This means that there is never any real math for the player, just comparing numbers and seeing which is bigger.
>>44855614 Alternately, you could do a single roll, better of 2, best of 3 sort of thing (instead of worse of 2, single roll, best of 2), raising your average target by a point or so. In that case, your chances of success would look like:
I kind of like it this way, because having to take the worse of 2 rolls can feel punitive, whereas the worst you end up with here is having to roll a single die. Also, the gap between the scores is a bit smaller in terms of your chance to succeed, which I also think is good.
>>44839230 Dad played Chainmail and coded his own text games, so he gets it. He's also the guy who first told me about them. Mum never did anything nerdy at all, but knows as much as your average person about tabletop roleplaying games (so the general concept). She knows I'm a massive nerd, so she doesn't give a shit. >>44849876 Sure she does. Just use your roleplaying skills.
Good on you friend, we have a lot of people on this planet already. If you ever want kids, you might as well just adopt. We are going the same route with the girlfriend. None of us really wants kids of our own (age 30 and 35 already), especially since we have close friends with 2 little daughters below us as neighbours. I've watched their "sufferings" closely the past 2 years, and while they are a lovely family and good folks to have around, I don't what to put up with the kind of shit they do by being parents. I prefer my good night's sleep, freedom of inviting people over for late night gaming sessions, and overall working freelance from the couch without interruptions, or from a coffee shop of my choice.
I would never give up this freedom just to have a little person around.
My kids keep wanting me to run sessions of dee-un-dee for them but not keeping up on their own messes. I sometimes think that I ought to just run the game anyway but it's so hard to think in a pig sty.
Couple that with the little ones acting like toddlers act and you have a recipe for dad-head a la flambeau every time game day rolls around.
Yes, I have held my wife's hand. Yes, if feels goodman.
>>44840247 Holy shit this. Any time I do anything vaguely /tg/ related and it comes up in conversation, my mom asks me if I won.
God damn it mom, it's not about winning or losing, sometime it's about lying to your friends for as long as you can before you get caught. Unfortunately, thats not something that translates well to her generation.
My 2 year old thinks it's some good shit. She gets attention from new people every week and colourful shinies to throw around. Setting her loose on old wargame skirmish maps is the highlight of my day.
>>44855350 Play mouse guard, bro. It has cute mechanics that you can use. You have to give the helping dice to a teammate when assisting in a roll, hold their hand and tell to their eyes how you believe in them and how you help.
They were about 1/3 of why my group broke up- the rest were legitimate reasons. Because I have two of my siblings as roommates they feel like they can just show up whenever and consistently showed up during session, despite me consistently telling them when it was. When I finally just scheduled session around their arrivals, they stopped showing up then.
my dad thinks its cool cause he's military and has painted model planes and jets (and various other vehicles) since he was a teenager. He sees my interest in miniature war gaming as a chance to bond over the painting aspect of the hobby and buys me new brushes/paints/and models randomly throughout the year. Mom doesn't care, it's just another geeky hobby in her eyes. Fiance likes it more than video games because i don't hog the TV or sit at my computer with a headset. My hobby table isn't far from our living room due to living in an apartment so building/painting time for me counts as quality time with her as we talk about our days and stuff. overall, i'm very fortunate.
My dad hates it, but not because of any EVUL or SATAN stuff. He just thinks it's a huge waste of time because he's your average baby boomer and not having 50-hour workweeks means you're a lazy pussy; he'd have the same opinion regardless of my hobby.
My mom is neutral on it, though she is glad for the semi-regular social interaction gaming brings; my brother's damn near a NEET so anything above that is great in her book.
My brother makes fun of me in between Guildwars 2 marathons and his MMO-of-the-week he blows $60 on.
>>44858129 He just feels every generation after his is lazy and entitled and needs to work harder and blah blah blah. Warning: rant incoming. Expect off-topic whining and treating 4chan like my personal blog.
The thing that pisses me off is that he's a total fucking hypocrite too. He worked construction under my grandfather for a couple years before he quit and worked as a bartender since then; never once did he work enough to be considered fully employed by anyone's standards, especially his own. Meanwhile I'm pulling 22-hour work weeks and taking 12 hours of classes. He was thrown out of college twice – once for failing out and once for beating a dude half to death because his idiot friends got scammed – yet still has my fucking high school progress report where I got a D taped to the inside of a cabinet because it was such a terrible fuckup he can't let it go. He's now basically constantly smoking pot yet somehow manages to still be mad at everyone for wasting time and money and being worthless shits.
>>44858354 Yeah, it sounds like you're your bitchy, useless father's bitchy, useless son. And your kids are doomed to be every bit as white trash-tier as you are. I'd say you're on a bit of a high horse here, but in your situation maybe more of a high Sloth.
>>44858342 >I'm such a glorious paragon of efficacy and hard work. Faggots need to work 80-hour weeks or they're wastes of flesh. >Now to post my factual opinion on the chinese cartoon forum that I never stop browsing.
>>44858365 >I'm telling you Quintus >There's no need for labor >I got 20 slaves to work my fields >I got 2 Goths working the market stall for next to nothing >I don't even have to vote now that we have Caesar making all the decisions for us >I'm telling ya, nature's gotta get with the times >All I need is a stronger liver, a wider mouth, and a fatter ass for this ridiculous marble furniture >oh look, the Goths are here! >And it looks like they bought some spears and torches while they were out.
Enjoy being a parasite. Your life will be perpetually empty and half-assed and crying your pathetic infantile ego to sleep every night won't get any easier.
>>44858609 >Working for other people's profit I'm sorry you chose the comforts of conventional living over freedom of choice. I'm sorry nobody ever instilled the values of a work ethic or self-improvement in you as a child. Don't blame the world for your shitty decisions, every system ever put in place by mankind for running a society has devolved into a liberated ruling class and an easily subdued slave class, which you have opted to sort yourself into by your own apathy and negligence.
>TL;DR- All that happens is just, African-American compatriot. You don't hate your life, you hate yourself for letting it happen.
My father and I have gone to World in Flames matches together. It's pretty awesome; although sometimes it feels weird to give him orders when I'm in a "senior" position in the game, like playing the Germans to his Italians.
>>44858342 >work 37.5 hour weeks >earn enough to share a 2 bedroom two floor house + a learner motorbike, and still have enough for LARP, P&P, vidya, and potentially reinactment >also get 27 days holiday + 8 days bank holiday, a company pension, and discounts >mfw
>>44839230 They don't really care. My dad has chuckled about it a few times, but that's about it. If my mum knew more about the fluff of some of the rpgs and wargames I play, she might worry more-she was the type who thought taking away loud music and dark literature would cure mental and spiritual ills all throughout childhood.
>>44858768 >get job >bitch constantly about hours because god forbid anyone takes an extra 2 hours of your precious jerk off time >make no attempt to communicate with boss to bring down hours
You know what the work week used to be? There wasn't one. You worked until you got enough shit done to not die. Now you have the luxury of not only choosing exactly what kind of work you do (and most of it is sitting on your ass), but also how long you do it, with the expectation of leisure time at the end of the day.
NOT TO MENTION that you also get a retirement and benefits and if you are so fucking pathetic as to find no means to support yourself (which used to mean death) you can apply to have a giant network of professional thieves take other people's money (people who actively work to improve their situation) and give it to you, solely because you are so devoid of agency that you are given the same kind of pity and support that one would lend to an animal. Like a stray cat, if the cat were also unable to hunt, fight, or reproduce.
A "Work ethic" isn't a measure of how many hours you put in. It's your attitude toward self-sufficiency, which you have none of, you petulant, incompetent man-child.
>>44855614 That was it, thanks. (several hours later) I think it'll be simple enough because she can add, they've been teaching her that in school. If the math seems like too much, I've screenshotted your other posts and can give those a shot. Thanks, anon!
Not my own kids, but the now retired redshirt from my local gw has the cutest kids. around the 5th ed release of the greyknights, she got into trouble with another girl in her play group. when the other girl maintained she was innocent, she burst out with "Innocence proves Nothing!"
I've been aching to play some tabletop since I've been home from school over winter break, so I convinced my mom, by brother, and my sister to play 5E.
They had fun, and it was one of the most involving sessions I've ever played. They didn't really have any conceptions of limits in the rules, so they were much more creative with what they had (using a frost spell to push a cloud of evil mist out of the way, throwing axes to trigger traps). They also enjoyed the dungeon crawling and combat much more than I thought they would.
Overall, really looking forward to the next session.
I don't know what my mom thinks about them, but my dad encourages them since it gets me out and doing something. It also helped that he was a collector of sports stuff like figures, cards, and other stuff. When I used to play yugioh competively in highschool he would always ask me if there was a tournament I wanted to go to and always offered to drive me and my friends to them. He also really liked my WH40K models and gave me tips on painting them, since he was a painter.
>>44855854 >we have a lot of people on this planet already
Just so you know, reproduction is already well below replacement everywhere except Africa and India. You could make the entire population of the USA go extinct right now and Africa would make up the numbers in 10 years.
Reading a book about ancient history of Mesopotamia, naturally deals with the whole transition of hunter-gatherers into agrarian societies. According to the author's citations, studies of modern hunter-gatherers suggest one only needed to hunt for meat 2-3 out of every 7 days. And I've heard elsewhere such as from Dutch/British visitors to 17th-18th century Southern Africa how damn relaxed and comfortable hunter-gatherer existence was.
Not the whole story of course but interesting to hear. Similarly I've read that the lot of peasantry in Europe varied significantly depending on the century or location and not in the erroneous progressive notion of "everything got better as time went on". German Peasants being better off before the 16th century and their abortive rebellions and the reformation shitting on them and basically re-asserting serfdom, peasantry in the 1400s-1500s of France being fucking awesome but then declining in the 1600s, ect.
>>44865068 I can bring up a similar example. The Hungarian plains were the country's most developed region in medieval times, densely populated and the second place in the entirety of Europe to adopt the use of scythes for harvest due to the abundance of wheat- but after the Turkish occupation lasting from the beginning of the 16th to the end of the 17th century, most of it was wilderness running absolutely rampant, with the populace either living in surviving small clusters of villages or centered around the sprawling rural cities that could keep people safe from the constant border skirmishes. The 18th century saw massive immigration, and in the 19th the plains were a major source of wheat for the entire region, but in terms of technology and society it remained backwards compared to the country's northern regions and with the wilderness pushed back and the natural swamps gone, sand dunes started popping up. By the 20th century parts of the plains were among the poorest regions of the country, and remain rather miserable places still.
>>44839230 My parents both love the idea of me getting out of the house every week and hanging out with friends. Neither of them fully understand what I'm doing, and god forbid they don't realize it's the only thing I really live for.
>>44865365 >but after the Turkish occupation Have Turks had any sort of positive impact on history whatsoever? Every time I hear about them it's always about how they fucked up XYZ forever by being Turks.
I mostly wargame and since i spent tge fiest 8 years of my working life in the army my wife pretty much just plays it off as "oh he's just really into army stuff". She really likes my painting too. I gave her Dad a 20mm painted figure of ieyasu tokugawa coz he's into that shit.
My daughter likes is occasionally allowed to use my old brushes to ruin a mini.
My parents dont mind what i do aslong as it makes me happy sucks to hear about peoples parents giving them shit about their hobbies. :3 chill at my house guys. No judging here
>>44865626 Well, mainland Turkey/Istanbul arguably, as the byzantine decline was leaving cities depopulated and desolate, with Constantinople having farms inside the Theodossian walls by the time of the Turkish siege.
>>44839740 I don't think I could ever give up my /tg/ stuff to someone else. I know lots of people have what I have, but it's mine. I've put a lot into my miniatures and character sheets, and I'm hoping to make plenty more memories with my stuff.
>>44871480 I can be like that grognard from a the thread a few months back - only instead of getting my stuff thrown out after I die and only having it luckily be rescued, my family has a vague sense of its worth and can give it to people who I'm sure will appreciate it, at a point where I no longer have to feel bad for my poor miniatures getting stripped and repainted, or the pages of a book I treasured getting thumbed through by someone else.
>>44839230 My dad hates and mocks me for doing anything that he thinks is stupid which to him means anything that doesn't directly involve me earning a larger paycheck.
My moms Alzheimers was already pretty bad when I started playing so I'll never really know but she probably would be happy I'm actually spending time with other people instead of being a recluse like I was as a teenager.
>>44865496 IIRC, Vasalgel will be tested in America by the end of this year or at some point next one. I´m in Europe, waiting for you guys to get it to pay you a visit. Actual commercial release will probably take a few more years.
RISUG... not sure right now. Pretty sure it´s closer to release, but it´ll probably still take a few years.
>>44863575 Vasectomybro here. I know that, however, I do not think in nation states. Negros or whites, all the same to me. What matters is that we would be fine with 5 billion less people. I do have hopes for viruses doing huge swings out of africa and india the next decades. A billion here, a billion there and we have to put less stress on the planet.
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