>>44800075 I'm confused, are you forced to play two headed giant this pre release? i don't want some scrub lord 12 year old mucking up my prerelease. Even if my friend shows up its kinda iffy to do it this way
Do you know how to play? Limited is a deckbuilding exercise. It's $25 for six packs of the new set, which is about what you'd buy it for normally, plus some promo stuff. Usually a seeded pack with a dated foil precon deck rare and a spindown in terrible colors with the set symbol on it. You'll be making a deck from whatever you pull from the packs and playing people.
Matches can get heated and you'll end up looking for really weird ways to use cards.
Depending on the shop, there can be door prizes. There's usually prize packs for the top half of the entrants. Always split first prize.
>>44803039 >friend and I offer to split the prize packs every time we make it to the finals of 2HG prereleases (so far 3 out of 4 times we've done it) >every time opponents are tryhards who say no because they think they'll win >they don't It isn't even because we go to the same store, we keep trying new ones because there are like a dozen within driving distance. Why is the MtG community like this?
I'm hoping I can get enough cards for UR Tempo. Does it look potent enough to work in general standard or just Limited? Kinda want to switch to that from Allies because Allies can get kinda boring after a while.
Plating right now in my prerelease, 2-1 so far, playing UG monsters, not bad but some hands are bleh, which basically lost me the first match. Other than that its turn after turn of monsters. W rounds left to go, and as for cards I got the blinking eldrazi and oath of Nissa so far as decent value cards, anyone else?
Well I went 2-1 because of a bye and my opponent getting mana screwed. My pool was fucking garbage, Captain's claws as my promo, i got like 20~ creatures in total in my pool so i had to jam grixis + colorless garbage to even have a playable number of creatures. At least prize packs are a thing.
>>44809277 Basically they are, the anus activated abilities on normal creatures aside some of colorless creatures are actually uncastable unless you splash wastes or colorless mana producing sources in your deck.
Nearly managed a win with 1 life and zero cards in my library via inverter of truth shenanigans. Unfortunately the boulder salvo I needed got shuffled to the bottom, so by the time I was able to cast it, I wasn't quite able to get enough damage through to kill before I decked.
Went 3-1 with BW allies splash Eldrazi. Drana Cohort, Landfall board pump vampire, hellbent land, 2 2/4 BW flying vamp allies, and the tribal equipment. That fucking equipment won me 4 games. I basically ran fatass dudes and some flying and vigilance, clogged the board, and swung over top with that ballin equipment.
Promo was Planeswalker tutor and pulled a Nissa in my prizes.
Someone else got one prize pack and pulled a Wasteland.
>>44810798 >is it likely i'll make money back if I buy a box No, stop buying boxes and expecting profit or good card you retard. Or rather, buy as many boxes as you can and try to flood the market so others can play a standard that isn't a $700 format.
My pool sucked but I made it work. My promo was the land that's like mana confluence that you can get pure colorless with. I had a regular one in my pool too and ended up UB Devoid Eldrazi. People seriously underestimated the pure colorless activated abilities. The guy who can make your guys unblock-able AND draws you cards is ridiculous. The deck was a blast to play. I was chump checking people all night by swinging the 2/3 vigilance guys into the 1/3 flier. I probably got 20 free damage off people saying no blocks when I didn't have a trick. The crystal ball artifact to scry on upkeep was gas too. A few times I'd swing with the vigilance mana dork, hold priority, and cast a colorless instant. Was great fun.
I offered to split with my last round opponent. He said no, which was fine. My store does 1 pack for 2-2, 4 for 3-1 and 2 for 2-1-1. We were both 2-1 and he said no to split. I murdered him and got this. He didn't want to concede and was super salty. I offered, you should have accepted. Happy to run you over though. Super fun set.
Currently sitting at 5-0-1 waiting to get prize packs. Intentional draw the last round. Was running a mostly red green landfall with a splash into white for linvalla promo and 2 scythemasters.
Got embodiments of insight and fury, 2 evolving wilds, 2 of those 1G instants that makes a land 4/4 and gives it haste and must be blocked if able to be, greenwarden of muramasa, grove rumbler, titan's fall, etc
Typical turn order: Turn 1 land Turn 2 land, gnarlid or stalking drone, Turn 3 relentless hunter Turn 4 rumbler/fury Turn 5 insight, or evolving wilds into double landfall triggers.
I went to the midnight prerelease, my promo was Oath of Chandra. I played WR + a bit diamond colorless, went 2-1-1 and finished sixth/26. Since it was my first non-draft event and so far I had only ever won 1 match, I'm very happy about that. One guy opened an expedition, one opened two planeswalkers.
Went to midnight and did 1-2, played UR with colorless splash, jori was a house. First loss was to a T4 khalitas in game 1, and a turn 3 khalitas game two. Other one was to Double linvala's. The format is pretty much going to be 3 color pile w/ bombs unless you get really lucky.
>>44815060 Yeah, I used a bunch of surge spells at surge costas well. Although I had to cast some spells at regular cost, too, when I didn't have any good low-cost spells in hand and not enough mana for expensive card plus surge. At 2HG your team has basically twice the mana pool and twice the hand cards, so one player can play his expensive bomb and the other still has enough mana to use the cheaper surge cost for whatever. That's what I meant with "more easily".
I went 1-2 at my midnight release. I got a pck because me and the other guy agreed to split one then play for the 3rd pack.
My pool was pretty good, my promo was pic related, so I payed for my entry fee. I built a janky black white ally lifegain deck with drana's chosen and felidor sovereign. I also had the white cohort rare that gives ALL your creatures +1/+1. I had the black white 2/4 flyer, as well as the ally that drains on rally.
I won the first game against a black red eldrazi aggro deck. Felt good going into game 2 and 3 and got completely hosed by removal. Tar pit, obliteration, grasp of darkness. Black is super strong. Last game I got blasted out by a guy with the traitor vampire + brood butcher. He would sac a zombie token, -2/-2 one of my guys, get another zombie token.
Overall the format seems a lot more fun then BFZ. Would draft.
>>44817105 >the white cohort rare that gives ALL your creatures +1/+1. I had that, too (as foil even), put all available allies in the deck for it, and then never saw it in the 11 games. Not even in a mulligan, if I remember correctly. But at least I still did well enough because of all my red removal, so far I like the set.
Played UG with a splash of black for that black 7-drop eldrazi.
Placed 23rd of 50, though could've probably made it to 20 if I wouldn't be a fucking retard and not only keep forgetting about my Endbringer pings or block that single fucking flier to lose my own in the last game.
>>44810226 >Hedron Alignment promo Me too. >Oath of Jace Me too.
I didn't get fucked in the ass with the remaining cards, though. Got a Nissa's Renewal and a Zendikar Resurgent. And a Void Winnower. Holy shit the value is unreal. >mfw played those three in a single game which I was losing >mfw my opponent's face when he saw my bullshit comeback >mfw his mouthbreathing and THINKING intensified Proceeded to lose the following 2 games of that round, but it was worth it for that moment alone.
>>44800075 >Played B/W cohorts >Grindfest for the first two games >/sigh "I'll change tactics for this guy so I'll try to win faster" >end up losing >Start losing the rest of my matches too >End up second to last >Get a raffle and win some sleeves >Alright so it was worth it >pull my pity pack >Get a Strip Mine It was an alright time If you go cohort play long and grindy and turtle all day, do not use bombs Just control and grind
pulled lisainivila (??? wingmate roc angel???) and got eldrazi displacer as my promo but still lost 3 games out of 5. Didn't know that Kozelik had to be cast to gain cards so I didn't try tapping him down. Still got to displace the angel a shit load of times, which is cool.
I opened a bunch of bad cards, I had no creatures and my wincon was the R Outcast that places dragons in the game. Went 2-2 and won 4 packs. My promo was Oath of jace. I wih I had opened an expensive land or a card I'm going to use ;_;
Played RB. Promo was that black Eldrazi that can make an opponent sacrifice a creature for a bit of extra mana. I also opened the surge dragon, Kalitas, and Endbringer. Let me just say, holy crap Endbringer is absolutely disgusting. Opened quite a lot of removal, too. I had some really nice blue and green options, but settled with red for the dragon, some burn, and that landfall creature that makes one of your lands a 3/3 creature for the turn. That thing did some work. Going 3-0 got me to top 8. Winning the next match got me to top 4. Got game one by the skin of my teeth, managed to get the right removals at the right time and Endbringer worked him down enough that I could kill him. Games 2 and 3 went to him because for as much removal as I had, he had just as much and then some if we total up his removal and bounce. Most of his creatures had at least 3 toughness, so my burn and that black sorcery that gives all creatures -2/-2 ended up being useless. Got a Jori En from my prize packs and that's pretty much all I wanted from this set.
Took second with a solid white/black deck. I had a lot of allies and a lot of lifegain, plus plenty of stuff that benefited from both. The rares I played were Endbringer, Ayli, and Mirrorpool but the deck really wasn't splashy at all. Simple consistency and synergy were most of my wins.
Pretty stoked with my promo. Pool was pretty shite though. Pretty much played GW tokens to stall out so I could ultimate Nissa. Didn't even pull any big Eldrazi that I could use with all the land I ended up having. From what I've seen so far, RB Devoid aggro seems to be pretty solid.
Black/White seems strong in the format. In a THG prerelease I did, I played a black/white allies deck, and it did some serious work, went 4-0, and in the normal prerelease I did later, a black/white allies deck took first as well.
>>44833756 I think the archetype got a boost because cohort is so much better than rally. As soon as you have two allies you can just go to town with cohort every turn, whereas rally required dropping another new creature every time you wanted it to proc. Plus shit like Ondu War Cleric and Vampire Envoy fill roles as both lifegain and ally support, which merges the two decks that kind of competed for that space in Oath. I pulled three Ondu War Clerics and one Vampire Envoy in my sealed, to which I attribute most of my success.
>>44833917 But at the same time it made the individual allies much worse. You can play the first strike or menace guys just for their ETB effects, but stuff like Drana's Emmisarry is completely useless unless you get a decent ammount of allies in your pool.
That should work out better in draft, but in sealed you usually get a bunch of really shitty vanilla guys. Like the only guys that are playable without their cohort are the 2/1 first striker and the 2/2 cleric.
>tfw open promo Nissa, a Chandra and good ol' Ulamog along with that Eldrazi Mimic and Jori En >Slam Ulamog, swing with a 10/10 mimic >Ended up 2-2 in 2HG with my brother Everything went better than expected
My friend who was meant to show up for 2HG bailed on me so I had no partner. So I asked the store owner if I could take 2 pre-release packs since I had already payed for them and make two decks and allow me to play both decks simultaneously as "2 handed giant." I then asked the other players if they were comfortable with this and was given the thumbs up. Much fun was had and I even won 2 games netting me 8 packs.
Went to two events. Judged the first one, played in the second.
The number of times I had to say the phrase "colorless is not a color" was/is pretty embarrassing. But hey, got a Mystic Gate expedition in my compensation prerelease pack.
The tournament I played I went 3-1 playing Memedrazi ramp with hedron crawlers and cultivator drones. Slam down Deceiver of Form, he reveals eldrazi devastor and suddendly my 4 scions are all 8/9 with trample.
>>44833950 yeah the thing is that it is so much cheaper in my country (50). i do not know whether i should wait for our price to level with this 80 bucks thing or try selling it on ebay now, which is what I never did and I am lazy to...
Yeah in 2HG if you win it's 2 packs per player. Seeing as I was playing 2HG literally 1v2 I still counted as "two players" because I did buy two pre-release packs and played with two packs. I wasn't entirely greedy though as I did offer to split packs but opponents just laughed and said I deserved the packs and they had a good time.
Just came home from my second prerelease. My Promo was Goblin Dark-Dwellers. I played UR splash black (just for Mindmelter and Deepfathom skulker, but I had an Evolving Wilds and a dual land so it didn't cost me anything) without a real theme, mostly creatures. Went 3-2-1 and I'm okay with that, because I had no great cards in my pack. Nothing in my 2 prize booster either.
>>44812726 This was my other one. In total a successful weekend for me.
>>44817724 And once again, ,this time 4-0 at another shop with RGColorless, I pulled Kozileks Return Matter Reshaper, UR Manland, Promo Linvala, and another Eldrazi Displacer. I counted the current value of the higher money cards and made around 180$, feels good, now to trade them off for things that will retain their value before the set gets overly saturated into the market, :D
Got Oath of Nissa as my promo card. Traded it away for a (non-promo) Kalitas. I dunno if I'm gonna regret that in the future if Oath of Nissa spikes, but I really, really never run planeswalkers and I actually have uses for Kalitas (plus, playing a game against one, he's a scary fucker).
>>44844570 I utilize a Drana's Emissary + Cliffhaven Vampire + Kalastria Healer + Eldrazi Displacer + Serene Steward + Malakir Familiar >Tfw you deal 12 damage and recover 6 lives turn 5 >All this before combat phase even begins >Then you swing for 40 damage
Did alright, went 2-1-1 loosing to a RW aggro deck in the final round. I played RU with a dash of black for the 4 mana exile and malakir familiar and colorless for some abilities and kozileks pathfinder. There was a lot of three color midrange-y stuff, and surge sphinx ended up being golden, since most games ran longer and I had several 2-3 drops. Nothing too amazing for my pulls, I got a holo dark dweller though and a regular oath of nissa and thats about it.
What's up with some stores not being able to do prereleases? My FLGS did prelreleases for the past few sets back to KTK, so I don't understand why they weren't able to do a OGW one. Demand too low so wizards said "fuck off" to smaller stores?
Sadly, I was not so fortunate in my pulls. I did have a Linvala though, who was a nice touch when I was in a bad spot a few time. Unfortunately, I didn't fare too well. Every game turned into an attrition battle where my opponent and myself were down to topdecking.
>>44844990 Ah, those weren't my pulls. That's the standard deck I'm working on.
Really, its been working so well that I might just start trying it out in Modern. Affinity and the like eat it alive, but I see it working well against both Midrange and Control. I just need to get better lands and figure a way to play the deck faster.
I played 3 events. This is how they went down >Midnight 2hg Match 1: Teammate and I get no lands Match 2: Lost. >Saturday single with 3 colors match 1: Won Match 2: Didn't get the color I needed Match 3: No lands >Sunday single with 2 colors Match 1: Nothing but lands Match 2: I can't get my two colors I need, but my opponent can get 4 colors online by turn 4.
I am looking up how to manaweave right now. 2/3 of my games were just sitting there watching my opponent play spells. I played 17 lands in every deck. Fuck my life.
>>44846721 Is manaweaving illegal if you do it face down?, then you are simply using an alternative shuffling method since you actually don't know where your lands ended up or how they are distributed.
Yes. If I come with a pile of lands and a pile of spells, and put them together in front of you, it's not okay no matter what. Build a better mana base, and get better at shuffling between rounds. >>44846951
>>44846926 whenever someone mana weaves in front of me I take their deck and rifle it once. It piles all their lands together and clumps it so they're either mana screwed or flooded. This is also cheating, but it's how I fuck over cheaters
>>44847151 How is that illegal? I'm pretty sure you're allowed to shuffle your opponent's deck for the cut.
Also, probably an urban legend, but I heard of one guy at a GP who manaweaved in a land-nonland-nonland pattern. When he presented his deck to the opponent to cut, his opponent did pile1-pile2-pile2, then put the piles on top of each other and returned the deck.
Really, though, just buy some decent sleeves, they help with proper shuffling so much.
Went 4-0 at a midnight prerelease playing UR Eldrazi with only Dimensional Infiltrator (A fucking WORKHORSE, btw), Stoneforge Masterwork and Crush of Tentacles. 2 half-white manlands and an Omnath without any support in Green or White made me sad
Went 3-1 the next day doing the exact same thing with a significantly worse pull. Tazri as a promo, only 3 white creatures in the entire sealed pool and only 2 green creatures. Black also had a few creatures (Skitterskin is nice I guess), but 4 dutiful return effects (2 of each, whooo) and no creatures or removal as the commons. Just jammed UR Eldrazi again because the only good cards I had were Reality Smasher and Thought-Knot Seer, plus I actually had creatures in those colors. I even lived the dream and got the seer out on turn 3 with the little crawler bro
I really enjoyed the set, just wish I had creatures in any of my sealed pools
Played 2 events today. Overall lower turnout at the store today compared to BFZ but that's because it struggled to make it to 0 degrees outside.
Event 1: Went 1-3, got a promo Endbringer, and a foil Oath of Gideon and Thought-Knot Seer. Traded regular Jori-En to a kid for a Reality Smasher, Dread Defiler, and Oath of Jace, picked up a few other nice rares. Person across from me opened foil Nissa and regular Chandra.
Event 2: Less flashy cards, but I was able to string together some great U/R tricks, and resolved a Deceiver of Form on curve to end match 3 and start match 4 back to back to go 3-1, picked up 3 packs of Oath and a pack of MM2015.
Attened the prerelease at my LGS today. Its a smaller shop so the turn out was around 30 people. Got 6th place for my second time at a prerelease.
Played R/U with some decent removal. I relied on waiting out with some chump blockers, then pumping up my Stormchaser Mage to 6/8 and two 5/5 creatures with haste. won 3 matches with that. Pulled a couple good rares but i really liked Sphinx of the Final Word. It does have a bit of a higher CMC but its a total tank with a bunch of 1 or 2 drop instants.
Came in 2nd out of around 32 with a mardu ally build. Firemantle Mage/Goblin Freerunner spam with Zulaport Cutthroat and Kalastria Healer. Menace is fucking great. Pulled a Thought Knot, Kozi's Return and Mystic Gate expedition and got a Kozilek in my prize packs.
Shirt man... over here the top 8 get mythic rare foils and 16+ packs all the way to a booster box at the top spot. First prize was a foil Gideon and 36 packs. I got 2 packs at 16th place. Everyone below that got nothing.
>>44800075 My friend and I went thinking it was singles, but it turned out it was 2HG. We had no deck cohesion, got our shit slapped handily. That said, we had fun just dicking around and talking to people while we played. Got a promo Reality Smasher, and pulled a Sphinx of the Final Word, but nothing really to back it up.
For shits and giggles, we decided to play the last match with completely different decked we whipped up during a bye - Used Ayli with felidar sovereign to try and pull out the 40 life win. Didn't pull it out, but it was a blast to play.
got dread defiler for my promo, pulled an ulamog and an omnath from my bfz packs, dark dwellers, mimic, endbringer, and the golgari manland from the ogw packs, was pretty ecstatic about it overall. some neckbeard a few seats down pulled a nissa promo, a chandra, a linvala, a kozilek, and a wasteland. he was having a heart attack the whole time.
went R/G aggro and wrecked fucking face, 4-1-1. so many good creatures and cheap removal in my pool. the 2-3 haste eldrazi and the 3 drop scion producer did some serious work for me, and I was usually able to get out my bombs either right on time or a turn early. didn't bother with anus mana, but my one loss was to basically a mirror who splashed it, so I'm pretty sure it'll be powerful enough to see standard play. either way I had a ton of fun and am regretting not going to another one today.
First prerelease event I've gone to. Got fourth place and won two packs in the regular prerelease, ran a really shit allies deck and should have went green stompy eldrazi with World Breaker. Teamed up with someone from the previous tournament for Two Headed Giant and came in third because second place winners had a fucking bye and won their other two matches. Won two packs from that placing as well
Pulls felt alright. Foil Eldrazi dudes and full art Island. Promos were Dimensional Infiltrator and Mina and Denn. Ran Mina and Denn RG landfall surge in Two Headed giant and the hydra got roided to the fucking gills.
Wanted a Oath of Gideon for my Nahiri EDH but pulling two kind of left a shit taste in my mouth
8/10, would draft, probably gonna do the sealed event held on Friday because there was still a bunch of leftover boxes. Lotta people pulling Big Daddy Kozi today so hoping for that next Friday.
>>44846656 My camera on my phone is garbage, and I don't feel like putting the effort into actually putting it onto an sd card or whatever. But the black is offset slightly. It's most obvious on the mana cost and at one edge of the card; it looks like some kind of chinaman fake or something.
>>44857299 I usually make a deck around every mechanic in a set, so I'll definitely check it out later when I have more cards. Could be viable in constructed with more ally supports and some lifegain thrown in, but it was pretty useless in my limited pool.
>>44800075 Did three over the weekend. (Two normal and a THG. All 3 rounds. pack per person per win.)
Saturday: First was just a normal tournament. I pulled a Mythic in my packs for each tournament, this one was the blue Sphinx. I normally play B/W but it had been a while since I played W/U and I wanted to use the Sphinx.
Lost the first round, went back to B/W (splashed just a little bit of blue in there so I could play the Sphinx though). Second round was a draw (went to time. Other guy said after I reported it I could have the win because I was ahead in life and probably would've won but it didn't feel right.) Won the last match.
Saturday THG: Get paired up with a random guy, who turned out to be pretty cool. We got a long, worked well together, had similar mannerisms, etc. All in all a total blast. Combine pools. I play R/G (Mythic this time was Chandra and I had a promo Valakut Dragon) and pretty much put up a big beefy wall while he (U/B) pings them with flyers and removal. Only lost the second round because we attacked when we shouldn't have (which I take full responsibility for). Drafted the uncommons afterwards.
Sunday: Decided to try something different and run three colors. Mythic this time was Omnath, and my promo was... uh.... well, it was Blue and gave card draw when you do damage to a player. Went R/G/U, especially after having fun with R/G previous night.
First round was a draw. I won the first game and was doing well the second until he dropped a 12/12 Eldrazi with a counter ability. Was winning the third game, but it went to time (I was ahead again too).
Won the second and third rounds (the latter much faster than I was expecting). In both got a surprising amount of utility out of the 1-drop in Blue that turns a creature into a 3/3 Elephant with no effect.
Best part was in my first pack that last tournament, I opened a Nissa and a Rugged Prairie Expedition in my first pack.
>>44857706 That is also because they can't make a tribal deck viable by printing just one or two playable enablers. Piledriver is legal in Standard right now, but it alone doesn't make the other goblins in the format not crap.
For a tribal strategy to be good there needs to be a critical mass of enablers for the deck, and if there's just one such linear strategy it's almost certainly also the undisputed champion of Standard.
If there are several of them players start complaining that Wizards build the decks for them, so you know.
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