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Something I want to make clear is that behind this forum's characters are real people, and we have lives outside of the forum that may not be immediately apparent. I'm an Iraq and Afghanistan War veteran and continue to serve in the United States Army, as an example. And like the rest of the forum, sometimes I like to just chill out and play VTM with some friends.

What I don't like is to deal with bullshit more than I have to, especially in a place I'm just trying to chill out in. I'm sure everyone can empathize. What's important to understand is that we're all different people, and we probably define 'bullshit' differently. It's reasonable to say that an emergency medical technician probably doesn't have the same definition of a "tough day at the office" as an elementary school student, right? Even more, that EMT probably doesn't want to keep administering needle decompression when she is watching TV at the house.

It's the same for everything else. This forum has members who are people of color, who are women, who are trans, who are lesbian, who were sexually assaulted, etc. They don't want to deal with bullshit unique to them on anyone's terms but their own when they play their VTM. If you feel like you can't play VTM without the ultra realism of, say, graphic sexual assault, 1) you're a fucking idiot, 2) you can literally go to any other forum and be edgy there. Sexual assault survivors wish they had as many options as you. The compromise is, of course, to realize that it's not all about you, that we're real people behind the characters, and that you could tone it down a little around people who may be dealing with bullshit similar to what you want to include in your writing.

So. No rape jokes, no racism, no islamaphobia, no gender or sex discrimination, nothing like that, no exceptions. This is at all times, both in character and out. If somebody says something derogatory and you feel like you can't confront them, tell me and I will.

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>>44750768
This is taken from a VtM Play by Post forum. My question is: Why? Why would people play a game about centuries-old monsters if they need trigger warnings and social justice? What is it with Social Justice that demands people to explicitly state that OF COURSE nobody of them would ever decapacitate a Feminist for talking back to them? Are people really that soft and whiny?
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>>44750796
I blame hippies for starting this crap
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>>44750796
WoD players acting like faggots, film at 11.
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>>44750796
Are people really that soft and whiny?

Yes, yes they are.
Its also the hip and modern thing to be
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>>44750796
Yes, being whiny and offended is how millennials raise their own social status in the eyes of their peers...because they don't have money and they all own Apple products already.
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>>44750768
>2) you can literally go to any other forum and be edgy there. Sexual assault survivors wish they had as many options as you.

These days, with "sexual assault" now redefined to include saying or doing anything that might be interpreted as an unwanted sexual advance, the whole idea of a "survivor" is hopelessly diluted. And, increasingly, harassment has been defined down to include saying anything that an activist might disapprove of.

All to the detriment, I ought to stress, of victims of real actual sexual violence, who the activists ignore if they can't be exploited for political gain.

This is all about speech policing, and you can spare me your insistence that you are doing this for the victims. What about the victims in Cologne? What about honor killings? You SJWs don't have a damn thing to say in the defense of THOSE victims, and if anything you ride to the perpetrators' defense. Jump onto twitter and read the hate directed to Michelle Malkin or Milo Yianopolous if you're worried about racism, sexism, homophobia, or threats of physical violence. That's all coming from your fellow SJWs.

Meanwhile, what does your military career have to do with speech controls on a roleplaying forum? Or are you waving that around because you think it gives you some kind of credibility on political issues? We've seen too many cases of stolen valor coming from SJWs, so maybe I shouldn't take you at your word.

Sadly, the activists have also increasingly turned to fake hate crimes as well, because they're having such a hard time finding real ones. So could I at least ask that you refrain from racist/sexist shill posting so we have have an intelligent conversation about this? Or are you more into debates delivered as monologues through a bullhorn?

If you want your politically correct "safe space" where nobody challenges your ideology, then do your next shop at Walmart instead of Whole Foods. Use the money you save to buy a server and host your own damn forum.
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>>44750796
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>>44751064

Half of them only started playing so they could tell us to stop.

"Look! Someone's having fun on the internet!"

"Shit, person, we need to stop them!"

I'm sick of how everything is political now.
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>>44750768
>Playing VtM without edge
That's like playing socialist atheists on Rogue Trader.
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>>44750796

Don't play with them, simple.

I will play my Black Fury Werewolf as a massive transphobe because it makes sense for the character. What my charcter says does not reflect what I believe OOC, that the point of roleplay.

Course if people -really- don't like something, then fine I'll turn it down, becuase I want people to have fun. Simply saying something is taboo however because it isn't 'nice' completely disrupts the point of a horror game and basically castrates the themes and tropes of horror you can use. I work in child social services, I see -really- horrible shit all the time and even put it into my games? Why? becuase horror is ultimately about the narrative of one's own fears. By providing a narrative structure, one has a method of dealing with real world anxieties, or at least gives you a way to play with them in a way in that 'you' are in control. I've actually gone and helped someone with a crippling fear of spiders overcome it by throwing a spider monster at them. It's cathartic, and if you simply go thrugh a knee-jerk reaction you're missing the point of what your game can offer.

Of course, if you've had experience with complete immature prats who won't deal with the game's themes at the expense of others (i.e. 'that guy') then fine, I agree and understand if you don't want that sort of thing but to dictate how -everyone- should play is a bit much. A bit of common sense in knowing what your players first will do wonders. If you're on a forum, ask them to write a character bio so you know what sort of person you're with. It's not hard.
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Who cares

OP, what about this makes you so heiny-hemmorhaged that you felt compelled to share it with us?
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>>44751840

>will play my Black Fury Werewolf as a massive transphobe because it makes sense for the character. What my charcter says does not reflect what I believe OOC, that the point of roleplay.
>Course if people -really- don't like something, then fine I'll turn it down, becuase I want people to have fun
>A bit of common sense in knowing what your players first will do wonders.

You sound very reasonable and fun to play with.
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>>44751690

Which they also want to do. In fact, they want it so that you can't play anything but. Or, at least you can't discuss playing anything except that because otherwise you're a triggering bigot capitalist oppressor.

The thing is, I've seen enough cycles where they go through periods of licentiousness and then periods of dogmatic ascetic intolerance, to realize that it has very little to do with what's right, but rather who's right. IE them. It's all about their careers and personal advancement and advance of The Cause, without regard for the people whom The Cause is supposedly defending.

If you doubt me, then watch what they do to someone who's black, gay, latino, female, or poor when they disagree with the Holy Narrative.

Also don't bump the thread. It's clearly lefty/pol/
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>>44751064
We always played VtM like a sort of evil Vampiric A-Team, but i guess i can see how people could faggot it up
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>>44750768
>People won't accept a difference between fantasy and real life
>Everything is political

I hate this so much, people that can't put aside a view and just have fun playing a game. We had a friend of one of our players join us for a few sessions one time and holy fuck, I thought fedora tipping hipsters like that were just a joke. He would actually interrupt the game every time deities or religion was brought up with a fedorable rant. He even threw a tantrum because we wouldn't let him vape at the table.
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>>44752367

I also hate vapists.
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>>44750796
>playing with people you don't know in real life
On the internet, how it works is you follow the rules or you get banned. If that's an admin, you don't have a leg to stand on.

>If you feel like you can't play [game] [with or] without [thing], 1) you're [free to feel that way], 2) you can literally go to any other [venue] [where your preferences are accommodated] and [play] there.
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>>44750768
>play in a distopian, bleak world
>nuh sexism or racism guise
>no bad topics

What does one play WoD for then?

Wouldn't another system be closer to meeting their needs? Chutes and Ladders maybe?
Why.
Why.
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Stop stealth bumping. We're done here.
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