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What beings, other than Ungoliant and Castlevania Dracula, could beat Chaos of the Warhammer universes?
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Saitama
Son Goku
Superman
my GM's DMPC
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>>44684708
Superboy Prime is probably the strongest DC character for certain. Arguably any fourth dimensional being, although they seem to be beholden to retcons.
Grant Morrison in a really strange way, since he continued establishing the multiverse and layers of multiverses which in the narrative are real, meaning our world Grant Morrison made the rules for all realities, everywhere.
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>>44684759
Thought Robot says hi. At least he didn't get beat by the Teen Titans
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Could Tom Bombadil beat Ungoliant?
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>>44684691
A fuck ton of characters. There are so many things that can solo the 40k universe never mind just chaos. There are quite a few universes that are more dangerous/harder to solo anyway and there are loads of characters that are 'so op that nothing can beat them' level. Examples include Superman, Azathoth and The Living Tribunal.
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>>44684691
Off the top of my head?

The Doctor
Yog-Sothoth
The Celestials (marvel)
Doctor Strange
Domanaru
Galactus
Doctor Doom on a good day
Numerous gods from D&D
The Living Tribunal
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>>44684691
>Castlevania Dracula
Is he actually that powerful? Doesn't he get killed by a lone human on multiple occasions? That doesn't sound right OP.
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>>44685342
Dracula's literal power is he beats everyone and owns them forever, other than Death who recognized how fucking powerful he'd become and became his servant forever even before he had that power.

His only weakness is the Belmont family, more specifically a whip which contains the soul of one of their ancestors that he was sort of responsible for the death of. Also, the Vampire who's power Dracula got his immortality from was her master which made a connection between them. Also, his own son can beat him too.
But when you own Death and all the unpleasant afterlives its impossible for you to be permanently beaten.

But that's it. He made all of Hell, all of the Chaos of his universe, and even Lovecraftian horrors and time travelers his slaves. He issued direct challenges to the singular omnipotent god and was actually answered by divine intervention on several occasions.

Fuck, he even managed to survive being removed from the timestream.
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>>44684708
>Saitama
Until he punches Lucius the Eternal
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>>44685938
...So if one has a whip that was owned by one's ancestor who was killed by Dracula the whip can be used to kill him? Da fuq?

Also why does Death (the being) prevent him from being permanently killed? Why wouldn't Death just be like "Meh, he can stay dead."

>He made all of Hell, all of the Chaos of his universe, and even Lovecraftian horrors and time travelers his slaves. He issued direct challenges to the singular omnipotent god and was actually answered by divine intervention on several occasions.
Can I have citation on that please?
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>>44685994
>Implying that this would give Saitama any satisfaction
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I am surprised that nobody brought up Kirby yet.
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>>44686196
>...So if one has a whip that was owned by one's ancestor who was killed by Dracula the whip can be used to kill him? Da fuq?
Dracula started as an ordinary human named Mathias who used alchemy to figure out how souls work, which caused the literal grim reaper to swear eternal loyalty to him since fucking NOBODY knows how souls work. His first plan was to make a philosopher's stone and split it in two, and trick a vampire master into taking half. Then waiting for someone to off him, and when nobody could Mathias manipulated the vampire into kidnapping his buddy Leon Belmont's wife then vamping her to make Leon kill the master vampire.

Mathias merged the stone back together and consumed its power, using the soul to get the immortality of a vampire with no weaknesses.

Problem is...Leon mercy killed his wife with a magic whip, causing her soul to be part of it. That connection, as the vampire servant of the soul Mathias made his own immortality out of, gives that whip the ability to hurt him.
>Also why does Death (the being) prevent him from being permanently killed? Why wouldn't Death just be like "Meh, he can stay dead."
Death willingly swore himself to Mathias, long before Mathias became Dracula. Fuck, half the reason Dracula comes back before 100 years elapses is because any time a Belmont kills him Death starts manipulating cultists and demons and vampires and wizards to bring him back into the mortal world. Every time Drac dies, he gets sent back to the realm of Chaos and trapped there for 100 years otherwise.
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>>44686627
>He punches Lucius
>Lucius uses warp magic to give the illusion that he survived one punch if not multiple
>One Bap Jap has satisfaction that he's met someone who can match him
>Lucius lets Single Poke Person kill him while he's satisfied
>Lucius wins
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>>44687111
>Can I have citation on that please?
Backstory is present across the franchise and in the comics. Sometimes the early games would just say he's an evil wizard or the son of the devil, so you have to take them with a grain of salt since the franchise is almost exactly thirty years old now. But they released a timeline solidifying the franchise canon like ten years ago.

There's also the fact that you actually fight those beings in his castle. See, once Dracula fights and defeats Cthulu for example Cthulu's soul gets bound to him, and Cthulu is forced to wander his castle doing his bidding. But just like Belmonts can resist Dracula's magic and hurt him with their whip, they can resist and hurt all his servants too.

So players literally kill Cthulu, by name, in one of the games. Same with everything from the Behemoth to Lucifer to Osiris. The IDW comic backstory has Dracula give some exposition on it, how in his transition from Mathias to Dracula he wandered reality and took over the primordial Chaos and forced it into the shape of his castle then filled it with all the things in hell and earth in order to become god's equal.

In theory, were Dracula to fight Warhammer Chaos or basically any other entity from a fictional work he could fight without end until he won, since he can only be banished from the mortal plane by a Belmont and nothing else. Shit, in Age of Sigmar three Elves knocked out Slaanesh for the entire rest of the setting timeline and Slann are now outwitting Tzeentch. Chaos Gods ain't shit when you're using their own games against them.
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>>44684873
Probably not, since he's just an incarnation of the English countryside with the ability to resist the ring
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>>44684691
Madara
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