Guns, Lazers, and bullshit

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Bowel Disruptor

The A.C.Me 800 Tagging Gun

It fires a non-lethal burst of silicon shards that impregnate a target with dozens of different types of drugs, allowing you to take down any alien or beast you come across.

>weapon too weak to hurt armored enemies
>weapon so strong it penetrates the walls of the ship and could destroy critical equipment
>fuckin' Borg adapting around all our energy weapons
Remember those three things when planning your weaponry, OP.
Best defense actually would be sealing off the part of the ship where the intruders are and flood it with gravity, plasma or toxic gas.

>>44661186
Can also be a great way to liven up parties.

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Not sci-fi, but would be crazy useful in a ship. You can even load some sci-fi AP shells or non-lethal tazing shells or whatever.

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A robo-stun gun. It shoots a carefully calculated blast of electrical energy that's meant to scramble the systems of robots that use laser targeting, 'stunning' it for a few seconds as they're unable to lock on their target and therefore cannot fire.

A gun that shoots hi tech orbs, lets say the size of a tennis ball. On impact it activated a gravity field, making targets implode.

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A relatively primitive weapon, specialized crossbows are made for those with the eccentric tastes and the ability to make use of their many bolts. There are kinds made for shorting out electric circuits, those with explosive tips, kinds that swing razor wires about as soon as they hit something, and of course, plain, regular bolts.

These are most often used by private security forces in charge of protecting sensitive equipment, or personnel working in areas that are too dangerous to use traditional combustion-based weapons or laser weapons in.

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A rifle that fires 'slugs' that disintegrate just before impact into clouds of nanorobots. They chew through armor, or flesh, or simply cloud airducts so the enemy can't breathe until they're chocked into unconsciousness - whatever the user decides.

A light gauss rifle with s very large bore. Accessorize with ferromagnetic pieces that stick to things using spatulae (gecko grip). Allows you to launch anything that will fit in the bore.

>>44661072
A simple shotgun will never go out of style. Especially since you can load it with different ammo.
Subsonic rubber projectiles, injectors, napalm, shock rounds, buckshot, guided rounds, explosive rounds, slugs, flachettes, slime, any anything else you can fit into a shotgun round.
You can make it as hightech/lowtech as you please.

>>44661457
>Allows you to launch anything that will fit in the bore.
Even your small robotic ally?

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>>44661238
mainly this, yeah. Its why a lot of them leave a freaky fractal pattern on the skin

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>>44661572
Man, that QDX-99 actually looks really nice.

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>>44661072
Microwave gun. Very useful against aquatic xenos, or anything with a high level of water in its tissues. Humans run the battery out fast, unfortunately.

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>>44661847
Can't go wrong with a laser rifle. High damage, perfect accuracy. Only problem is that this one is a bit on the heavy side.

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>>44661865
The Mattock. Sturdy, accurate, semi-automatic. Kinda like a gauss weapon, but using tiny projectiles. And no magnets.

So not like a gauss weapon at all, but you get the point.

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>>44661883
Now this is nice. Lighting gun, flash-vaporizes water molecules in living tissue, wrecks electronics as well, so useful against synthetics.

Bit awkward to use in shipboard action though, so I'd recommend using this one for away missions.

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>>44661920
This thing is pure pornography, pure sex when it comes to engineering.

Your bog-standard slug-thrower, but the beauty lies in the way its ammunition works. The ammunition is stored in the gun as liquid (meaning that reloading this thing is no different to changing the ink in your printer), but when you pull the trigger, the gun flash-fabricates the bullet in an instant and then shoots it out of the gun.

In fairness, this thing is really more of a tech showcase than a weapon, but carrying one means that every wanna-be gunslinger from here to the Triangulum galaxy will be turning green from envy when they see you.

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>>44661981
Now this is an interesting one. It uses the same mass-acceleration tech as with the Mattock, but instead of accelerating tiny chips of ceramite at people, this accelerates a packet of super-heated tibanna gas at people.

Full-auto plasma gun, more or less.

I was thinking about scifi guns few months back and got an idea of atypical lightning gun, kinda semi realistic one.

It would first have build up enough charge between the target and itself and discharge the moment charge is high enough.
If target is close, necessary charge needed to make lightning would be smaller than in longer distances.

This means gun works as taser in melee/close combat and is most devastating in maximum range.
Of course in melee it would charge instantly and maximum range would demand several seconds of battery killing charging to shoot.
Also higher charge would be noticed by anyone near, you know what thunder feels like.

I had ideas for other guns too.

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>>44662027
No-one's quite sure where this one comes from, there are no manufacturing markings on it that we can recognize, and although it seems to be made for human hands, it's far too big for a man to use without assistance.

Regardless, its a plasma gun. A big one. You know the drill; hydrogen gas is superheated to a plasma state and then fired out the weapon with magnetic fields. This thing fires miniature suns.

One word of warning, the last one of our testers who used this thing got both his hands melted off when it misfired. So, give it to someone you don't like.

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>>44662094
The Typhoon. Old, but (as we say) gold. The Typhoon functions using electronically initiated superposed load technology (multiple projectiles loaded nose to tail in a single gun barrel). This one really is a gauss weapon.

A staggering rate of fire (you can solve 500 problems a second) but low armour penetration means that this is great at dealing with lots of soft targets, or really tough singular soft targets.

>>44661847
Wouldn't a directed beam of microwaves cook you from the inside out? Or at the very least give you every type of cancer in about eight seconds?

>>44661072
It's laSer, not laZer. It's based on an acronym, you can't just change letters all willy-nilly.

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>>44662170
And finally, for when you absolutely, positively, unquestionably have to kill every single last motherfucker in the universe...

The ChemRail. Unassuming, I know, but this is a man-portable railgun system.

Utilizes a dual-propulsion system, with chemical propellant to fire the round and an electromagnetic system to propel it to incredible supersonic velocities. This gun gives the middle finger to concealment, cover and the laws of physics.

It'll kill the guy you point it at, the wall behind him, and then the guy standing behind that wall.

I hear someone used one of these during the Insurrection to kill a fire-team of SPARTAN-IIs, blasted straight through their armour like it wasn't even there.

Very expensive, and pretty finicky when it comes to maintenance, but worth every penny and every second.

Thank you for your attention, you've been a wonderful audience.

>>44662201
I think the first one is most likely. Hence why it'd be so good against stuff with a lot of water in them, it'd boil them from the inside out.

It's sad that in the end of the day, all those cool "gun fires tiny robots which fire missiles which contain nanomachines which inject the target with poison that teleports it to orbit" gimmicks are just not and CAN not be as effective as some variation on "propel something towards it really fast".

>>44662249
Depends on how the other guy defends himself.

If, say, he's equipped with a shiny new personal force-field generator, all your bullets will do is knock him on his backside and piss him off.

>>44662273
Yeah, but that forcefield would be just as effective against the tiny-robots-missiles-nanomachines-poison-teleporters shots, unless you're writing a Star Trek episode and need to bullshit the physics of the setting somehow for the sole purpose of making the gadget of the day seem worthwhile.

>>44661072
When you say you're starting a sci-fi game on here, do you mean like a quest thread, or an actual game?

In either case, can I join?

>>44662029
I'm not sure I follow your reasoning as to why something with a variable setting charge up longer for longer range = charge up longer for more output of energy = more 'damage' essentially would be most devastating at maximum range.
From memory, USA recently had a prototype for a 'lightning gun' type weapon, and that used a shit-tonne of power to form a channel for the 'projectile' to follow so it wouldn't just ground itself a metre ahead of the weapon, which is something yours lacks...

>>44662170
Shame that MetalStorm weapons never made it in real life. For a second there, it really seemed like warfare might be revolutionized. Whole new paradigm of projectile weapons.

Now we need to wait and see what homing bullets do to it all.

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Perfect Dark was one of my favorite games not just for the multiplayer that was years ahead of it's time, but also for its wide variety of sleek, powerful, futuristic guns. A couple of my favorites:

>Dragon
>Secondary Mode: Proximity Landmine
A powerful assault rifle that looks a bit like the G36. When you're out of ammo, chuck the damn thing and watch your foes gib when they try to collect it.

>Laptop Gun
>Secondary Mode: Friendship-ruining Sentry Wall Turret
An innocent laptop, slightly outdated, but fully functional. Hold the right key combo and the computer transforms into a 50-round submachine gun in your hands. If that's not enough, throw it on a wall and watch it perforate everything that walks by it.

>Cyclone, pictured
>Secondary Mode: Full Magazine Discharge
A submachine gun favored by bodyguards for its ability to fire really fast. But sometimes there just isn't enough murder per second, so you can use the secondary mode, which will fire your 50 rounds in two seconds flat. You can also dual wield these, and reloading them is as easy as shoving a magical ammunition box through them.

>>44662295
It would be because gun simply pumps up the charge until it reaches the amount it can violently discharge.
Short range just needs less charge to form an electric arc between positively and negatively charged gun and target. Small crackle is heard and target suffers from muscle spasms.
Longer range forms a fucking lightning with deafening roar.

>From memory, USA recently had a prototype for a 'lightning gun' type weapon, and that used a shit-tonne of power to form a channel for the 'projectile' to follow so it wouldn't just ground itself a metre ahead of the weapon, which is something yours lacks...

Yeah, it ain't realistic, I had too much time at my workplace and thought what new guns would fit scifi FPS games.
It's invented around that mechanic, I know it wouldn't ever really work...

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>>44662295
Electro-lasers work by shooting a laser at a target to ionize a pathway of air. The ionized air is conductive, so once you have the path open you can use it to guide an electrical charge for a high amount of thermal and kinetic energy transfer.

So yeah, lightning gun.

You can make a poor, crazy man's version with salt water or copper wire attached to a dart. Shoot the carrier at them, and when it hits them dump the electrical charge though the target to ground.

With enough voltage the wire would more or less instantly explode into white hot sparks, but could transfer enough energy while it lasted to do a lot of damage. Clip a new dart to the spool of wire and ready for the next shot.

The picture is what happens when you put a whole lot of voltage though a wire, capturing the moment right before the wire evaporated.

>>44663222
You mean like modifying a taser to kill instead of stun?

>>44661098
That is seriously a frightening weapon.

>>44661452
A really good way to go bankrupt.

>>44662218
10/10 would buy weapons from

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>>44662027
>>44662094
>>44662170
>>44662218

I actually feel the urge to buy a gun now.
Good job anon.

>>44661098
Would literally be banned by the Geneva convention.

>>44662201
Dude, microwaves cook from the outside in. How the fuck do you think the middle of hot pockets stays cold while the outside edges squirt lava cheese?

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Harpoon guns

>>44661847

This has got me thinking; what kind of gun would you use to take on robots and/or cyborgs? Some sort of EM gun?

>>44664996
logic bombs

Ok, it's quite simple. Take for example a weapon list from DnD. Just add some techy word to it and you've got yourself and armory of plasma kusari-gama, ten foot laser pole, sonic crossbow, etc

>>44661098
don't we already have sonic weapons that induce nausea?

>>44665684
>ten foot laser pole
I see what you did there.

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>>44662951
The weapons in Perfect Dark were amazing. I really liked the Mauler's secondary fire mode.

>>44665621
EXPLAAAIN

>>44664996
I'd use a super maul that fucks up their actuators

>>44661452
Also powered by condoms, apparently.

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retro-future?

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>>44665819
in conventional parlance, a logic bomb is any code you insert into another program which, when arbitrary criteria are met, activate and cause harm.

A classic example is 42.zip, which is a nested set of archives which explode to like five petabytes when it gets unpacked or scanned.

In this case, it's a playful joke set up by the subject of weaponry, i.e. a bomb, and one designed to function against computers, that is, robots and cyborgs.

>>44665917
Haven't most attempts at caseless ammo so far ended up with the bullets exploding inside the magazine when it got too hot?

>>44661265
>david weber is writing honor harrington
>get to actual shipboard combat after introducing his setting's primary weaponry
>realizes the weapon he's devised would do horrible things to the inside of a spaceship
>introduces shotguns

>>44665722
I came here almost only for that

>>44661572
>us armed forces are still using two different sidearms
maybe, in another century, we might get it down to just one. assuming some branch/unit isn't still using a 1911 variant

>>44666192
What is the devised weapon in question?

>>44666513
one of the key pieces of technical bullshit in the setting is counter-grav technology, which, when applied to kinetic weaponry, turns a weapon the size of a pistol into something that would fuck up an MBT.

>>44661545
>this triggers /k/

>>44664580
>>44664737
Thanks guys. It was fun to do. Wish I had more, I never got around to making that Aliens reference.

I'll admit physics isn't really my jam, but aren't laser beams invisible? To that extent, I can imagine the laser guns of the future coming with a specialised module that only exists to generate a visible beam/hologram to point out the lasers trajectory, to prevent team casualties. This could also lead to custom trails, as mercenaries of the future fire anything from rainbows to the future equivelant of spurdo.

>>44661865
But lasers don't have rifling, the helical grooves in their barrels, calling them a laser rifle is meaningless. Unless they were named by a military committee that knew nothing about lasers and saw a big laser gun with a long barrel thingy and decided to call it a laser.
Besides, laser weaponry would be a bit more like a handheld camera.

>>44668010
They're invisible unless the light is scattered. If you and a bunch of space pirates were zapping away at each other in space, then all you would see would be the giant melting holes that pop all over yours or the space pirates bodies. But in the atmosphere, where there's loads of air particles, duh, and dust particles, the light would be refracted all over the place. Plus the air would be ionized and turned into plasma, so you'd see a weird glowy line going towards your target. It would diminish as you went to higher altitudes.

>>44661452
You mean a gun that fires phlebotnum?

>>44668095
It's also the most convenient and easy way to name a longarm laser weapon. You laser rifle and basically everyone will know it's a 2handed laser gun.

Not like it wouldn't be the first time something is named after a previous tech level for the sake of convenience even though there's very little accuracy in using the terminology for the new shit.

>>44668095
Technically, you're right, but it's the most convenient way of naming a longarm-shaped laser gun. "Gun" can be so much more than just a longarm.

"Pistol" is more of a general term, in this case. Won't have this debate concerning those.

I should also point out that it's likely we won't deviate too far from the familiar pistol grip and trigger array any time soon. Aiming with something like that is tricky, which is why you'll see the beams in the older Star Trek go almost anywhere but where they're pointed. Apparently, aiming one of those is almost impossible.

>>44661425
Didn't Nasa or the USSR develop a crossbow handgun for use in space combat between astronauts and cosmonauts?

>>44668436
there was the russian laser pistol for disabling sensors, iirc. might be a spoof though.

>>44666019
no. the LSAT is working fine so far, and it might be used by the US army soon(ish)/

>>44662338

Why didn't they again?

>>44666192
Which book? Don't remember that.

>>44666019
>>44668939
The cased-telescoped version of the LSAT is working fine. The caseless, not so much.

The overheating problems of caseless were fixed way-back-when in the G11; but gas jet cutting has never been fixed, and it's a serious problem. What would be a quickly fixed jam in an ordinary gun is a serious problem with caseless, while a serious jam for a normal gun permanently wrecks caseless weapons.

>>44668095

Lasers can have rifling if you add a circular polarization filter on the emitter lens.

>>44665917
Did he literally wind it like a clock to get it to load?

That's hilarious.

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>>44669343
fucking clockpunk magic gun

>>44666739
Think the 40k Bolter, with a sleeker more powerful design with a magazine of about 3000 tiny slivers rather than 30 big ass bullets.

>>44669101
was when escaping from the Tepes to Hades, book 7 or 8 I think.

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>>44662218
>This whole beautiful demo

>>44661452
Is that a fucking vacuum cleaner nozzle on the end of that gun?

>>44661981
It flash hardens liquid ammunition with UV light.

It's by far my favorite weapon in the game.

>>44666261
>assuming some branch/unit isn't still using a 1911 variant

At this rate, M1911 and M2 will outlast mankind.

>>44669532
http://honorverse.wikia.com/wiki/Infantry_Weapons_Technology#Pulser
found the wiki page covering the infantry weapons

>>44668095
You can call it whatever you want, but troops issued with the weapon would probably still call it a rifle.

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>>44664996
A handcannon of some description, probably.

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>>44661072
Stickyfoam gun:
Useful for capturing targets when sedatives or other incapacitants are not effective. The weapon is as simple as an over sized can of insulation foam, however improvements in chemical and material technologies have allowed for much more light weight foaming agent carried at a much higher pressure.

Upon firing the target is covered in a gel that very rapidly expands into a foam. In very short order the foam hardens, while at the same time self-linking polymers in the foam ensure that the hardened material achieves great tensile strength and shear resistance.

Can also be used during damage control in a pinch.

>>44665917
Clearly I'm not even a little bit /k/, but why is caseless ammo such a big deal?

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>>44669343
Yes.

For reference, this is the G11's action.

>>44669796
no case means no ejected metal. so that means the gun can be easily fired from either side without fear of hot brass to the face.

>>44669796
In theory, caseless rounds would be smaller and lighter, allowing the infantryman to carry more ammunition for a given weight or volume.

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>>44661883
Ahh... My old friend. I miss you so.

>>44669796
Caseless ammunition would (purportedly) account for three main improvements to firearms:

1.) Firing speed can become stupid. Like, a million rounds a minute stupid. Because the ammunition doesn't require a mechanical aid to cycle, it can actually fire faster than one can pull the trigger. It also means there are fewer moving parts, making the guns simpler to operate and maintenance. Ideally.

2.) Accuracy. A big part of the recoil in a conventional firearm comes from, well, the bullet firing. But a sizable portion of that recoil comes from the mechanism of the gun itself, as it uses the gases and pressure from the expended round to cycle. Since caseless ammunition requires no mechanical cycle to function properly, and therefore requires no gas feeds, most or all of the recoil generated by the bullet can be mitigated using other means. Less recoil and the potential for multiple rounds to be fired almost simultaneously mean accuracy, on the aggregate, should improve.

3.) Damage potential. This one's easy to figure out. Three bullets penetrating the same spot on a target is much more damaging than a single bullet of the same caliber.

The goal, like with all guns, is to make them ded killy.

>>44669657
Seeing as Honor Harrington has been mentioned, a 1911 turns up there, in the 41st Century

>>44669343

kraut space magic

>>44669943
>Three bullets penetrating the same spot on a target is much more damaging than a single bullet of the same caliber.
Wouldn't that make it more likely for one to end up with a clean through and through shot? Armor aside, wouldn't it be better to have holes in several organs rather than a big hole in one organ?

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>>44669815
>>44669840
>>44669943
Thank you, very succinct

>>44669977
ah yes. Honor's Hand Cannon.

>>44662218
10/10, would buy from Anon Arms again.

>>44661098
>Spider Jerusalem
Fuck off with your edgy gonzo trash.

>>44670019
Probably not. It would depend on the caliber and where the rounds hit.

For the interest of the thread:

A video showing a caseless gun-box firing at a million rounds per minute:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEu9LLQpOF8

And a pistol variant firing three shots with a single pull of the trigger:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HuKVELlFig

>>44669943
>Because the ammunition doesn't require a mechanical aid to cycle

Yes it does. New rounds still have to be loaded into the chamber. Caseless only removes the extraction step, which is 1 of about 6-8 steps in the firing cycle.

"million rounds a minute" is a metal-storm thing.

>>44670149
Will caseless ammo fire underwater? Or in space?

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>>44669977
Is the Honor Harrington series any good?

I might just have to give it a read.

>>44668988
Money troubles, I'd imagine. Or practicality.

>>44670290
It was a little bit of both.

They ran out of money, because as it turns out, there are very few practical applications for weapons with such hilarious rates of fire.

>>44669943
>3.) Damage potential. This one's easy to figure out. Three bullets penetrating the same spot on a target is much more damaging than a single bullet of the same caliber.
Surprisingly, this is not as much of an issue as one might think to the guys developing weapons. The idea is that in the end of the day a bullet's a bullet and a guy wouldn't become deader if you hit him in the exact same spot with three instead of one. It's mostly to bypass body armor and such.

>>44670289
I like it, has some drag at times and a few issues that get worked out. Still a fun read for me at any rate.

http://media.liveauctiongroup.net/i/9633/10495032_1.jpg?v=8CDC8F8CE6AFA70

http://www.littlegun.info/arme%20americaine/gyrojet%20carabine-02.jpg

The gyrojet is like a bolter, but with no primer or gunpowder, only the rocket. Deadly at long range, but you could literally stop the bullet with your finger in the barrel. Id imagine it being a sniper weapon.

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>>44670020
>squid
>clearly an octopus

>>44664996
Logical paradox them.

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>>44669343

>>44670211
It would function exactly the same as cased ammo in those cases

>>44670289
It's okay. First few books (2-3 I'd say) are pretty good. Then Weber either stopped having an editor or his editors stopped being willing to tell him to cut shit out and the books start to get progressively more bloated and... chancy.

>>44670289
Tough call.
I liked it. It's fun. I went out and bought the new one (main series) when it came out, after reading the ones (most of the series) Baen gives out for free.

However I will say that it is flawed, and there are issues that pop up, with the writing, with the characters and with the overall plot

I'd recommend it (what with it being free as well), but do know that gun-based action is much rarer than ship-to-ship.

>>44670289
First two books are alright, the universe is cool and I like Webers style, but on the downsite, there is a tendency to ramble on about minor fluff details at unfortunate moments and the fact that Honor Harrington really is a love-or-hate character; I finished the second book despite our main hero, not because of her.

>>44669943

Cased ammo is heavier then caseless ammo and less compact. The 4.7mm caseless used by the G-11 is equivalent to 5.56x45mm NATO, but weighs around half as much and can be stored more compactly because it's rectangular rather then a tapered clyender.

So weapons using casless ammo could either be lighter and more compact or, at the same size, hold considerably more ammunition.

>>44671217
The problem with successful authors. No longer told to kill their darlings by editors, so every side plot and sidetrack that occurred to them ends up in the final book.

Wasn't the G11 supposed to be absolutely jamtastic and nearly impossible to preform maintenance on in the field?

>>44661072
What kind of sci-fi? What kind of tech is ubiquitous?

>>44661981
The projectiles would be way too light.

>>44669146
Can I get a source on those problems the caseless is running into?

>>44670621
That's an octopus making a toast to a squid.

>its a gun with a single function
>it gives a single photon of light about 400 grams of mass, then fires it
>upon leaving the "barrel" the friction created by this photon, who's speed is preserved because fuck you, is enough to set everything within 10 miles aflame
>as this photon continues on its journey, it create a vacuum in its wake, ripping up everything with wind forces the likes of which would make your head spin
>finally, as it leaves the planet, it'll drag with it a large percentile of the atmosphere, leaving the world to die

Or at least, that's how it SHOULD work if I built it right. So put the gun down, give back the money and DON'T MAKE ME THE FUCKING VILLAN!

>>44670851
mew
mewmew
mewmewmew

>>44669633
>improvisedweapon.png

Seems relevant to this thread, even if it might be bullshit
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/MARAUDER

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>>44667809
anon arms dealer, sell this weapon to us

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A grenade full of space wasps on meth and pcp, this should stop anyone without a full Kevlar lined suit or better. It might be hard to get the wasps but there are probably going to be hard to get. The next part is putting them into statsis and then loading drugs as gasses into the cylinder when it goes off.

Actually this is more like a bomb. Just set up and get away as you will most likely kill or maim so many people. The trade off is cost, but the GM should go for it since it is going to be worth the adventure for it.

>>44661098
HaHa I Guess That Gun Makes 'Em Poop

>>44666192
I'm reading In Enemy Hands right now. I'm really liking the series right now. I'm a stupid sucker for space navy shit right now, and it gave me a serious hankering for playing a game of Traveller.

Is there anything quality wise I should be warned about? Does it have a major drop somewhere?

Think a ballistic weapon, most likely a pistol or semi-auto rifle. The gun itself wouldn't be much to think about. The ammunition said gun would take is where the money is at. Disclaimer: Fake ass science not meant to work out properly. The bullets would be made from a very weak metal, such as aluminum or tin. Very large bullets, too. But they wouldn't be solid metal. The inside of said bullet would be coated with magical science anti melty shit to ensure the acid encapsulated within this bullet doesn't fuck your shit up before you shoot. Basically launching metal test tubes full of fuck you juice out of a gun to watch people melt. Corrosive weapons are the future, gents

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>>44661072

Graviton Beam Emitter

For when you absolutely have to put a pole in 70km worth of megastructure

>>44668436
The thing that makes me doubtful is that traditional gunpowder weapons would work just fine in space, the propellant in a bullet casing supplies its own oxygen for the reaction, and the lack of air resistance would actually make the projectile more accurate and faster.

>>44668095
So, Laser Muskets then?

>>44673096
I will fucking hurt you, Carlos

>>44675549
"What is this," I hear you ask, "A gold-plated revolver?"

"Yes," I would respond, "but also, no."

This beauty is a custom-made hand-cannon. Unlike most of its kind, this gun is not made for slow and precise shots. Oh no, the man who commissioned this gun was a big fan of old westerns and as a result, his gun was made to fire as quickly as possible and do the most damage possible.

If you do purchase this (let's face it, why wouldn't you) then it's advised that you brush up on the old technique known as "hammer-fanning" so as to maximize the amount of bullets you can coax out of thing in a small as space of time possible.

There's a sale on at the moment for all slug-throwing weapons, so buy now, and you too can have the Last Word.


How was that?

>>44661072
Where do people learn about guns?

Like, what's the easiest way to learn about calibres, gauges, whether or not X will work, etc?

Also:

>Military-grade super soaker to shoot holy water at vampires.
>Garlic juice and holy water-based pepper spray canister to use against vampires
>Dragon Rifle, like an elephant rifle but more heavy duty.

>>44677721
Fantastic, but I am highly biased as I love that gun. Still don't have the Chaperone, though.

>>44678277
> Where do people learn about guns?

By being born American.

>>44678277
On a somewhat-related note, our modern fantasy game contained a tech savant (like a young Tony Stark, but fat and black), a dude who worked at a company that pool fillings, and a priest. Those vampires never stood a chance, and were caught by surprise when a pool truck crashed through their front doors.

>>44669146
I'm not even kind of /k/ but the G11 is one of the most impressive things ever invented for its time.

>>44678604
You're a cheeky one.

No, seriously, not looking to be a gun collector or a hunter, but I just want a general knowledge of weaponry so I can make up guns for my fictional universe and write some basic statistics for them.

>>44678277
>Where do people learn about guns?
Try making a thread on /k/ or asking questions in /k/'s qtddtot threads.

>>44678686
Was all of >>44664737 any use? Or did I waste nearly an hour of my life?

>>44678732
I fucking loved it, not a waste mate

>>44678801
Fair enough. I did quite enjoy it myself, had those pics lying around my hard-drive for a while with nothing to use them for.

When I saw this thread, I just did what came naturally.

>>44665856
underrated post

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Which one /tg/?

>>44679313
B. If it's connected to a powerpack, you don't need to worry about reloading.

Might wear the components out faster though.

>>44673200
>www.dtic.mil/ndia/2012armaments/Wednesday13614JimSchatz.pdf

>>44679313
How big is the powerpack carried off gun in 'B'? Can the gun handle the continuous fire that 'B' can provide?

>>44679313
A

Fuck hoses. Fuck things that get tangled or tear really easily in general.

>>44661519
especially your small robotic ally.

>>44679392
You would be able to alternate between single fire or burst fire or continuous fire.

Same with the magazines, you can expend them all in one long go or empty them in single shots.

>>44662228
Dude myth busters. You have no excuse.

>>44679436
I was asking more along the lines if expending an entire magazine or long continuous fire would damage the weapon or overheat it?

>>44679491
I don't follow.

>>44664931
>SPAS-12 top folding stock, with hook
>Fixed carrying handle, that doesn't seem to have any sighting apertures, in the way of the folded state

As much as I like seeing SPAS-12 bits in things, that's just poorly designed right there.

>>44669796
The problem with caseless ammo is it's easier for the gun to over heat. That brass and open bolt accounts for alot of the heat being vented.

>>44669813
What the literal fuck?
I'd say I'm pretty familiar with the internals of a lot of modern firearms, and that fucking thing makes an M4's starport (AKA Feedramps AKA Satan's asshole AKA Hell on Earth) look like a pleasure to maintain.

>>44679864
>M4's starport
Why would a carbine need to refuel starships?

>>44679918
I asked that question to a 1SG once.
Never did get an answer...

>>44670499
Yeah, now if only they were remotely accurate.

What are the purpose for the weapons? Are they for surface fuckery or do you plan to use them to defend against borders? Will the weapons you use damage the components of the ship when used? Can they operate on the surfaces of planets you visit or in a vacuum? Do they require ammunition or fuel to operate? Are they difficult to maintain or operate? You should probably consider these questions when building equipment.

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>>44661072
The most complete websites about scifi weapons I know:

http://www.orionsarm.com/eg-topic/45bc00feca9c6

http://www.projectrho.com/public_html/rocket/sidearmslug.php

http://www.projectrho.com/public_html/rocket/sidearmenergy.php

http://www.projectrho.com/public_html/rocket/sidearmexotic.php

http://www.projectrho.com/public_html/rocket/astromilitary.php#id--Space_Marines--Microgravity_Hand-to-Hand_Combat--Take_That,_You_Alpha_Centaurian_Swine!

Also:

http://drell-7.deviantart.com/art/Gauss-Rifle-Concept-318766931

http://www.duffelblog.com/2014/02/space-marine-oh-think-job-cool-try-police-calling-zero-gravity-2/

The Resistance game series has some interesting weapons, like a sniper rifle which slows down your time perception and a magnum firing explosive bullets which can be detonated when you want.

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Basically this but preserving the caliber of the regular sized weapons.
You end up with an itty bitty gun shooting 20mm rounds.

>>44681004
>a sniper rifle which slows down your time perception
Isn't that just the "trance" actual snipers go into to prep the shot and not an effect of the weapon?

>>44681027
That's adorable.

>>44681059
Nah, I think the weapon had some gubbins in it that acted as like an extra set of neural pathways, so your reaction time got sped up for a short while.

There were loads of good weapons in those games; one of my favourites was the weapon where the secondary fire ejected the magazine and turned it into an autoturret. Apparently it used the recoil from its shots to keep it floating in the air.

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Remember, lasers cause biological targets to violently explode in to steam. None of that sissy cauterizing the wound stuff, wounds are big, messy, and oh so ultraviolent.

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>>44681363
Just posting some neat laser weapons here.

And a question for you /tg/, chemical lasers (COIL, Hydrogen-Flouride) or solid state battery powered? (Probably hydrogen fuel cell powered)

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>>44681395

>>44681395
The latter. If the battery ruptures in a fight, you're not going to get toxic gas sprayed all over yourself.

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>>44681478
Sure, but then you lose the charm of making laser troops the new flammenwerfer troops.
"OH NO SOMEONE SHOT MY BACK NOW I AM COVERED IN HYDROFLOURIC ACID"

>>44662201
Microwaves are very small, and usually don't have a lot of penetration. It would heat the outside of the skin first. As for cancer, no.

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Auger Rifles are nice. It shoots transient radiation that tunnels through solid matter. While hard surfaces aren't really affected, organic tissue turns to bacon as it burrows through the poor sap.

Has some sort of infra-red deal going on for the user, allowing him to see targets behind walls allowing for perfect ambush. And should he be caught out in the open, the weapon is able to pop a shield wall down in front of him, from which he can shoot through, too.

>>44681855
Aw yeah, I loved that gun. That and the Bullseye.

It shoots micromissiles, and if you "tag" something with the secondary fire, the rest of the shots in that clip will home in on what you tagged.

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Anyone here read hammer's slammers? Powerguns are a pretty nifty idea. They basically shoot a bolt of contained copper plasma in a perfectly straight line with theoretically limitless range, and explode as they hit a target and release their energy

The downsides are that they're tricky as fuck to make and maintain, require iridium barrels, have literally no penetration, and overheat and explode if you're not careful. But hey, when you can rip apart a human torso with a 2 cm bore powerful, who cares about safety?

>>44661981
How would that control the rate of fire?
As in, I want semi. Pull the trigger, drop is flash-solidified, then shot. I want full auto, lots of drops in a constant stream are flash-solidified, then shot?

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So I'm the only asshole here who prefers his sci-fi weapons to look like they came out of the 1950s, huh?

>>44682174
Yeah.

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>>44682048
Here's a pic of the Bullseye for the OP.

Anyways, I miss fighting the Chimera. They're like what you get when you cross Tyranids with Necrons and add a heaping of Tau weaponry

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>>44682257
I much prefer the version from R2, looks much more alien.

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>>44681027

it's gotta be bigger and more powerful and more destructive if you're going to be compensating for something.

Many of the weapons shown here are touted as "cutting edge, innovative, the way of the future."
However, in the middle of a firefight, when your life is on the line, are you sure you can trust untested technology? Or should you trust the tried and true?

Ladies and gentlemen, may I present to you the Suros Regime. Nostalgia as a weapon of war. Style as a hallmark of victory.

It may be a simple slug-thrower, but its effectiveness is unarguable. The fact that it has held its own in firefights from the Satellite Wars of Roviks-55 to the Defense of Jakrarti speaks for itself.

Suros.
Reliable. Powerful. Timeless.

>>44661072
*Synapse disruptor: For the assassin with a very big budget. Disrupts electrical impulses in a target's brain. Applications in defense are generally set to "not-immediately-lethal" and made into intimidating, sleek, futuristic gun models. An assassin will get a one-shot wonder made in the likeness of an omniphone and deliver a fatal disruption to a target while he's walking past.

Acid-projector:
Highly illegal weapon that fires ion bubbles of superheated sulfuric acid. On impact, the acid vaporizes into an aerosol, dealing burns to the immediate target and contaminating the air around them. Deemed needlessly cruel and inefficient, it's favored by Islamic extremists.

Thunderclap:
This is what happens when you lock electrical engineers and gunsmiths in a room. The bullets are superconductive, ion-charge painted silver-copper alloy spikes designed to penetrate light and medium armor, propelled by in-cartridge electromagnetic charges. Complex laser-detection sensors on the gun detect impact of the initial payload, after which two antennae on the sides of the forward gun discharge a high voltage, high amperage shock to the ion-charged bullet, ensuring 99% fatality in human targets, and considerable damage to robotic sentries. The recharge of the secondary payload is limited to 5 "shocks", so additional batteries are needed if prolonged combat is expected.

>>44682669
Forgotten something there, boyo?

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>>44682669
goddamnit forgot image + captcha broke.

>>44682719
As one professional to another, I give you five out of ten. Good pitch, but you kinda cacked yourself by forgetting the picture.

>>44679918
Its locking lugs are arranged in a star like pattern, I've heard its breach called a starchamber before.

I once read about this thing called a shredder gun in a shitty sci fi novel, that basically serves as part recycling machine, part gun. You put ferric scrap metal into an input, which is taken apart by a laser grid, which is accelerated around a series of magnets in a drum. It's fired by releasing the shards of metal from their loop and essentially perforating the target with shards of scrap metal. Good at close range, but wildly inaccurate at anything more than that. Also I don't know if you'd want a bunch of metal shards spinning around some magnets at 100 m/s that close to your torso

>>44661920
Isn't this a prawn gun? From district 9?

>>44675893
>>44675893
If you got that far without getting sick of Honor you'll be fine through the whole series. I will say the books change not really in quality but in content. Honor reaches a rank where the thrilling space combat isn't feasible anymore, and things become more political. That's where the spinoffs come in.

Honestly though I chewed through the first 3-4 with a massive hard SciFi space combat strategy boner, but Honor gets so fucking walk on water messiah of awesome I can't handle reading it.

>gifted military commander
>doesn't come from influence had to work her way up
>near magical ability to bring people to her side
>super strong in hand to hand combat
>excellent dead eye dick Doc Holliday grade duelist
>not classically beautiful but uniquely stunning
>has a super cool and rare shoulder bobcat
>has super ultra special mind link with the bobcat that lets her almost read minds
>uber wealthy for doing the right thing
>powerful friends
>powerful enemies who become friends
>favored by the queen
>her bobcat gets a GF and kittens and maids and she leads the first ultra super rare bobcat migration
>has her own city state
>invests in a new business that becomes incredibly successful
>master level katana fighter

Am I missing anything. That's only up until the book you mentioned. It keeps going from there. I lose interest in a character that becomes that godlike.

>>44664012
My favorite setting is the one he used on that one guy in the bathroom stall. What was it? "Volcanic something-something?"

Speaking of Transmet, there was a scene where one of the filthy assistants was buying a gun, and the guy said that the one was looking at was made for people with genetic augmentations. I can't really remember what they were, but I think it was back-up spines? Anyone remember exactly?

>>44670289
No.

Weber can't really write above and beyond what is expected of teen novels. His characters are laughable and unidimensional, his politics a joke, the science fiction side is unrealistic, and the stories are usually decent at the very best.

The first one or two books are passable. If you are under17, you can sort of like them, in a guilty pleasure way. Then it becomes increasingly worse.

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>>44682062
Hammer's Slammers is fun. Partly because it's so damn fed on his Vietnam experiences.

The combat cars had a great mix of science fiction and what a military organization might acutely get. A rugged air cushioned light armored car with three powerguns and everyone's luggage strapped on the roof. Not some invicable god of the battlefield, but able to do terrible things to disorganization opposition.

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>>44670621
He's not a squid, but he's talking to Squid.
incidentally, you posted his waifu.

Plasma guns are the shit. Not all that pussy "ball of hot gas" scifi bullshit, the REAL kind that spray ionizing radiation everywhere like an invisible flamethrower.

>point the gun at a crowd
>pull the trigger
>everyone within 100m instantly drops due to their brains literally shorting out
>point at a tank and shoot
>the thick armor converts the plasma into xrays, killing everyone inside instantly anyway
>shorts out and destroys electronics
>disrupts radio transmissions
>invisible, silent, can only be detected by geiger counters and dead bodies

The only problem is the backscatter, where an unprotected soldier would die after pulling the trigger a few times and even someone with heavy shielding would succumb to radiation poisoning within a few days just by being in the same general area. Like an RPG where instead of back-blast you have every-direction-blast.

Now properly hardened drones on the other hand...

>>44682395
Let me tell you about this gun. This, my friends, is the ZG0-3-59A-7, which this poster incorrectly claims to be the ZGM-100R-4. Made in Japan, with precise machined components so as to offer the best reliability ever known. I served with it in the countless wars between Luna, Terra and Mars for a long time. She's a kicker, being a mix of an assault rifle and a machine-gun. Capable of eating a belt or a magazine, this baby could only be used with a power suit that had to be modified to handle the extreme recoil of the gun. She is one of the most finest weapons I had ever seen. Within it is a Yokai-class AI, which is one fine AI. No need to find the enemy, it's already done it for you. Low on ammunition? It'll tell it to the sergeant for you, free of charge. Hell, it's even got an avatar and a personality which learns over time. Hell, if it was human, I'd buy it some Cola.

This weapon was the finest of its time, and it's sad to see so little of it now. Thankfully, it's on sale! Come and get yours now! For a limited time only.

>>44685809
Plasma has been used in warfare since ancient times. Greek fire for example. It's not gonna change just because you don't know what the word means.

>>44685809
I dunno what phenomenon exactly you're talking about, but if you can energise a plasma to the point there the radiation is an immediate health risk to humans within such ranges then it sure as fuck won't be invisible nor soundless.

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>>44684258
The M113 Air Gavin lives on!

Tau Cannon / Gluon Gun / Combine pulse rifle from Half-Life.
I always loved the Tau Cannon.

>>44685996
>>44686010
Nice catch, I actually totally fucked up and said "plasma gun" when I meant "particle beam".
I guess I got it mixed up because a particle beam does shoot plasma technically.

Pretty much anything on the website could be used to plausibly blow up the entire planet: http://www.projectrho.com/public_html/rocket/spacegunexotic.php

The Strangelet bomb is perhaps the most interesting/destructive. The idea is that strange matter, if it can be created, infects ordinary matter and converts it into more strange matter. That means a single drop could destroy an entire planet, or even a star!

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>>44661769
>LITERAL
>FUCKING
>DICKGRIPS

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>>44686204
If it's longer than it's wide, it's a dick.

>>44665691
Wouldn't a single uncharged ultrarelativistic particle with 400 grams of mass have a ludicrously tiny wavelength, and thus a ludicrously tiny interaction cross-section?

>>44664751
No it wouldn't. That's a perfectly humanitarian weapon. Can only kill when used excessively.

>>44662201

They'd cook the outside in. This gun actually already exists in real life. They are looking into crowd control/riot applications.

Think 'Pain-Ray'. Fire a wide beam at a crowd for a second, every person in that crowd feels their skin being cooked alive for a moment. Keep it on, and you have a crowd of people rolling around on the floor screaming.

>>44670731
Commonwealth Minutemen.webm

I came up with a spur of thje moment grendade when I realised by Cyberpunk Game wasn't cyberpunky enough.

You throw the grenade into a room and it explodes into a shit load of 4inch metal spikes with blanket the entire room. The grenade is full of self replicating nanites which are programed to form into the shape. The setting was touching on post-humanism so it felt suitable.

>>44684276

I gotta admit, i laughed at this picture a little bit too hard.

>>44665983
a zip bomb isn't a logic bomb, a logic bomb relies on a logical paradox, a zip bomb is just some shitlord exploiting the compression scheme of a zip file to make the compressed size massively smaller than the uncompressed one

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Not a gun, and certainly not a laser, but certainly futuristic bullshit. Behold, the Lockheed CL-1201-1. A super-heavy transport plane conceived as a design brief for the United States military in the late '50s, it would have had a wingspan of over 1,100 feet, a crew complement of over 800 airmen, and a weight of several thousand tons. Its on board nuclear reactor would have given it enough juice to stay aloft at cruising speed and altitude for up to 41 days, but its weight was such that it would have required 182 conventional jet boosters to get up there in the first place.

Two configurations were put forward for this hypothetical monstrosity. The first was a troop carrier, capable of moving several hundred soldiers and full gear to crisis zones. Since the plane obviously couldn't land except on a specially made airfield just for it, conventional transport planes would have been used as air-to-ground shuttles (some concept drawings depict it towing 5 planes equivalent to a C-130 behind it on cables). The second configuration was a mobile aircraft carrier, designed to carry twenty-two fighter jets in berths under the wings. Not just a launch platform, this beast would have been capable of full launch, capture, and refit operations for all of its tiny babies.

Alas, it never made it past the design stage, probably because nobody wanted to be the guy who signed the bill unleashing radioactive mama dragons upon the world.

>>44686158

A particle beam shoots whatever you like it to.

The thing about a particle beam is that it involves firing 'particles' at near the speed of light. But its not really the particles that are important, its the speed of light.

It doesn't really matter what you hit something with when you're firing it at any significant fraction of c. You can hit your target with fucking anything that has the tiniest bit of mass and it'll fucking explode.

As Anatoli Bugorski found out when he stuck his head in a proton accelerator (a proton basically just being one atom of hydrogen gas) and got a hole bored straight through his skull and brain.

Its also why they are kinda dumb as scifi weapons though. When you have enough technology to the point where a random jackoff can carry around a handheld weapon with enough power to accelerate something to a significant fraction of c you shouldn't really be at the point where you have enemies. Or allies. Or cities that aren't smoking craters.

>>44686405
Reminds me of that missile that went like 12 times the speed of sound and showered radioactive fallout on everything it flew over.

>>44686405
More likely it was because it's just not practical.

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>>44681059
>The L23 Fareye is an advanced sniper rifle developed by the British. The Fareye possess a special attachment designed to accelerate neural activity with tailored electromagnetic pulses. This frequently creates the perception among snipers that time has slowed.

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>>44686416
>As Anatoli Bugorski found out when he stuck his head in a proton accelerator (a proton basically just being one atom of hydrogen gas) and got a hole bored straight through his skull and brain.

Nitpick: The beam did not cause of a hole or otherwise physically destroyed the matter of his skull. Instead it "just" caused significant burns and damaged the tissue and nerves mostly through radiation.

>>44686436
Project PLUTO, proof that no supervillain has shit on US military R&D.

>>44686460
That's not really a nitpick.

This is one, though.

>>44686436
Orion project. It was basically a missile with a big old completely unshielded reactor powering it, so it'd irradiate everything it flew over while dropping its payload of several nuclear bombs. Gives a whole new meaning to scorched earth

>>44686460

Huh. Thanks for the correction.

I gotta admit, i just remember seeing that diagram of his brain a while ago and thinking 'line = death beam'.

>>44686436
Similar, yeah. But unlike the Flying Crowbar, the 1201-1's reactor was designed as a closed loop, so no fallout coming out the tailpipe. In fact, per ton it might well be the cleanest aircraft ever designed.

>>44686438
Obviously, but it's still freakin' cool.

>>44683145
Goddamn, this sounds fucking horrid.

>>44686481
Nah, Project Orion was something else entirely. Way of propelling spacecraft by using nuclear bombs, I shit you not.

The best part is, it would've worked as well.

>>44686515
Shit, you're right. The murder-missile was Project Pluto, not Orion. Too many fucking Projects around.

>>44686515
My favorite part of Project Orion is that in the process of optimizing the bombs for thrust purposes, the engineers accidentally a nuclear death ray.

I wish I could make that kind of shit up.

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>>44665856
Nice to know I'm not the only person who noticed, kek.
Contribootin' with the Moist Nugget-A/k/

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>>44668095
>not polarising the light so it twists and is more accurate

Though "carbine" and "pistol" would be better terms (maybe a "laser obrez" if you wanted to be technical)

>>44686568
I never heard of this, tell me more. Something to do with the pusher plate, or the casing for the bombs?

>>44686617
>polarising the light so it twists and is more accurate
Holy shit, would that work?

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>>44686629
I suppose the ideal shape for the pusher plate would be akin to a regular rocket engine nozzle, which would have the side-effect of similarly focusing and directing much of the radiation.

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>>44665917
fucking Kraut Space Magic

>>44686629
The casings. They designed a specialized bomb casing which directed the majority of the blast force in a single direction. Didn't take long for someone to realize that if the jet was focused to the point where it would slag the pusher plate, it would make a mighty keen ray gun. Thus the Casaba-Howitzer was born.

>>44686687
Nice. I wish there was more (or in fact, any) sci-fi that has ships that use Orion Drives. And actually uses them properly as well.

That said, now that I think about it, you couldn't really make a proper "starship" with an Orion Drive, as you'd have to fit it all behind the pusher plate.

>>44686749
I guess with sufficiently advanced materials, it might not be impossible to put the pusher plate into an isolated chamber (with a backwards opening) that might be recessed into the structure of the ship.

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>>44686508
Eh, it's not quite as bad as all that... though it's not great.

For example, most of the combat stuff is due to being descended from a supersoldier project way, way back - and that's sort of a "my great-grandfather was in the SS" type deal, so it doesn't get brought up unless extremely relevant.

The uber wealth, business and city state is a bit shoehorned - they're all directly linked to one of the worst bits of the setting (as is the katana), but it is at least a logical progression - save poor-ass planet from destruction, poor-ass planet makes her a noble, complete with city. Said planet has massive economic boom due to connecting with her (much richer and higher tech) planet, and she basically gets on the ground floor of all of it, due to her saving the planet being the main reason the two planets are friends.

The mind shit is a bit fucked up though, no excuse there (though it's meant to be tied to the super-soldier ancestry)

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>>44686568
Gotta love the cold war

>>44686831
thanks for the diagram! I have officially stolen © this design for use in my game today!

nuclear scramjets for the win!

>>44678277
There's a free game on steam called world of guns

All you do is disassemble and reassemble guns. Quite informative.

>>44676173
Why would you put a Polish person in a 70km long megastructure?

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>>44686358

Yeah, technically a logic bomb is any program where P=/=NP and the program can never be satisfactorily completed or ended, and to be really effective it should spiral out of control so that as it tries to complete it grabs more and more memory resources until the machine grinds to a halt.

>>44686405

pfft, here's a plane made up of 2 B-52s that was originally planned to carry the space shuttle

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>>44686749
Ah, here we go, I was looking for this. Also found this really neat little model kit for the battleship on the right, apparently it got discontinued in 2010.

>>44686900
So they can finally get to space

>>44686639

No.

>>44686629
>>44686655

Basically an orion bomb isn't just a regular bomb - what it's designed to do is launch a ton of teflon at high speed at the pusher plate, however doing this causes the actual blast of the bomb to be highly focused in the opposite direction from the ship - you can then further augment this into a weapon by placing lasing material in the bomb so that the hard x-rays from the bomb are turned into an x-ray laser.

You can then go even further by dropping a load of lasing tubes with targeting systems on them just behind the bomb (so drop a couple dozen lasing tubes, then drop the bomb) and you'll be able to fire at multiple targets with x-ray lasers from just one bomb.

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I just want railguns with smart munitions IN SPEEHS
>railgun
>devised as a minigun
>fires a smart "bullet"
>exchangeable warheads
>has two types of thrusters
>secondary thrusters allow for small course corrections
>primary thruster engages when it's near it's target
>slap like 30 of them on the sides of space ships, used as broadsides

>>44679313
A.

Because if B was viable, belt fed machine guns with ammo on your back would be far more common.

>>44687057
How much delta-V would you need to change the direction of a moving railgun slug?

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>>44687083
Because the thrusters would be using ultra advanced fuel and ultra advanced engines, stuff like that won't be a problem.

>>44687074
Also because magazines/belts of that length are fairly prone to stoppages, particularly in smaller weapons that you move aroudn a lot.

>>44687099
The only things I can think of that have enough ooch to do that would be the same stuff as what you'd use to move the starship in the first place.

>>44686662
Wonder how many people have looked at that hole in the middle and fantasized about sticking their dick in there.

>>44687083
As long as it's >0 you'll get a change.

Now if it's big enough that depends on how big a change you need.

>>44687083
If you just want lateral course correction (i.e. perpedicular to the current course), then hardly anything.

>>44687164
Wouldn't that just change the orientation of the slug without changing the direction it was going in?

>>44687188
Depends.

If you have a set of manoeuvring thrusters designed to change the orientation of the slug without changing its velocity then, yes, that'd happen.

But if you put the thrust vector right through the centre of mass of the slug, then no, you'd keep it pointing the same way, but change its direction of travel instead.

And the two can of course be combined, where you have a big engine to make it go the way you want, and then smaller thrusters to point the big one in the right direction.

>>44687225
Sounds like it'd be easier just to not miss when you fire the slug in the first place. Or use a missile.

>>44687164
Orbital mechanics working they way they do, thrust along the direction of travel will also change the point of impact.

>>44687057
Most of that looks sensible, but:

>primary thruster engages when it's near it's target
This seems like overkill. Any meaningful extra impact velocity you'd get from the thruster could usually be more easily gained by just shaving off the extra weight of the engine, fuel, and propellant and just increasing muzzle velocity that way.

>slap like 30 of them on the sides of space ships, used as broadsides
Nah, broadsides are bad. They just mean that in any given engagement, a large chunk of your weaponry will not be capable of targeting your enemy. They also tend to limit the maximum possible traverse of the gun. Better use several turrets instead, you get a greater effective weight on fire on target as well as better redundancy in case of damage.

>>44687225
>>44687345
That's the point of the primary thruster. Secondaries slightly orient it, primary makes sure it goes true and adds extra punch.

>overkill
It's overkill and completely overingeneered. But it looks cool. Lets say they are made out of some super material that makes them invisible to detection while in flight. So the enemy ship only detects them being fired and some time later they notice 300 of them, just before the thrusters propell them all over their hull.

>broadsides
I know they aren't a solid tactic, but they are damn awesome.

>>44686508
It gets worse. The only character flaw Honor has is that she's awkward around men. Awwwww. So you get to enjoy page after page of her reminding the reader of how romantically insecure she is. Ohhh woe is me I didn't have a bf in college what man would want me with my exquisite beauty. I thought that all got resolved when she did get a fat ponytail having boyfriend, but then he gets murdered. So you get to enjoy two books where there are pages and pages of her grief and anger that just when she found love it was taken. Now the point where Anon is at the super suave lord military badass has developed a crush on her, but wait he's married, but wait his wife is an invalid...what happens now.

>>44688281
Well, all we need is the invalid wife to desperately beg Honor to sleep with her husband and then die off camera to leave some secret weapon her family invented that no one else knows about that would solve the latest crisis. Or you know you could just have Honor come up with it on the spot while having sex with the husband on top of the dead invalid wife. Whatever.

>>44688411
Nice try, but no. The sexy space lord with a crush on Honor gets adopted by the super rare female mate of Honor's bobcat. It then convinces the space lords paralyzed wife that a three way is the best option. So they all get married and both the paralyzed wife and Honor have kids with the sexy space lord.

>>44661769
4/5 no schlong shaped trigger

>>44676248
>and the lack of air resistance would actually make the projectile more accurate and faster.
I'm not sure, designs made to stabilize the bullet in atmosphere may backfire and make it veer off in vacuum. Still would be trivial to redesign it, just no taking the guns as-is.

>>44682616
I just saw that movie last friday. Saw it as a kid but basically barely remembered it.

That gun though.

>>44661883

Not kinda-like, it is a guass weapon. All the non-geth weapons are gauss weapons.

>>44688281
>>44688670
Why does this evoke anger in me?

>>44691479
Probably because it's telling the events in a way that's designed to do exactly that?

I'm not saying it's great writing or anything, and he's talking about some of the worst bits of the series, but he's also doing it in a way that makes it sound particularly stupid

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The Thunder Gun.

The pet project of an independent engineer, that sold the blue prints for it in exchange for assistance in solving its range and energy consumption problems.

It is a weapon that uses a super powered vortex blast of air to knock over people at low strength, and practically liquify at high strength.

>>44691578
Okay. You give your version of those events.

I like the books for the space navy tactics, combat, politics, infrastructure, and whatnot. I love that kind of hard SciFi, but when the main character becomes the patron saint of bad ass her crew kissing the very ground she walks on with her sole flaw being difficulty opening up to a man....I mean come on.

Was I wrong about any of those points? Can you make the three way marriage sound a bit better? Sure you could read the book and experience that painfully awkward mess as it interrupts your space navy action.

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>>44685993
I will be right down to make that purchase, my good shop keeper. Might you also have a few other fine weapons I need for my collection? The first is this one.

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The second is this one.

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lastly this fine specimen of a weapon.

>>44683145
you forget how the first book has her looking 16 rather than however old she is (50s I think) due to the prolog treatments, which this comment of how young she looks gets quietly dropped in later book as the creep factor.

>>44693266
>4 barrels instead of one bigger barrel

What's the point? Getting around regulations?

>>44693321
How do you even hold this?

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>>44693314
I have no idea. But why does it have an LED light on its handle.

>>44693359
Look closer, it's there.

>>44693378
You probably need a flashlight more often than a gun.

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>>44693359
The grip is behind the trigger. This is some sort of underslung weapon that you use your underarm to aim. I just thought it was a cool pic.

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SMGs/PDWs

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Rifles

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Shotguns

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Aaaand Long Rifles

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>>44670851
>>44675194
shes sniffing its poopyhole

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sn8KYD1Vco0

>>44693036
They just retconn it as, ummm I guess the prolong makes you look more hot over time.