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Fantasy Flight Games’ X-Wing and Star Wars: Armada Miniatures Games
>http://pastebin.com/Wca6HvBB

Fantasy Flight Games’ Star Wars RPG System (EotE/AoR/FaD)
>http://pastebin.com/v77AhEFV
>https://mega.nz/#!DkNTDTyZ!PUupCOep4RmRcsgI3rNhU_Pk_xcyFbYWnhrq8gwrVv0

Other Fantasy Flight Games Star Wars Tabletop (Imperial Assault and the Star Wars LCG)
>http://pastebin.com/ZkpXpbJ1

Fantasy Flight Games Dice App (Works with X-Wing, Armada, the Star Wars RPG system and Imperial Assault)
>http://www.mediafire.com/download/64xy3uy6vepll8v/com.fantasyflightgames.swdice.ver.1.1.4.build.9.apk

Older Star Wars Tabletop (Including d6 and d20/Saga)
>http://pastebin.com/wXP0LdyJ

Reference Materials & Miscellaneous Resources
>http://pastebin.com/AGFFkSin

All Canon Novels and Comics (via /co/)
>https://mega.co.nz/#F!2R5kDTqQ!WfrDla-jvDIn05U57T9hhQ

Just What IS Canon Anyways?
>http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Canon#2014_reboot
>http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Timeline_of_canon_media

So you want to watch The Clone Wars (But You Don't Want to Watch the Whole Series)
>http://img.4plebs.org/boards/tg/image/1442/36/1442364889994.png

Writefaggotry
>http://pastebin.com/cJY5FK9T

Pretty much all the shipfag ships
>https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0ByhAdnTlOKOeQnA4SFByUC1aQWM&usp=sharing
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>>44659909
>that one friend who always has a little glit in their system when you're just trying to chill
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>>44659841
>>44659818
I always got the impression that the Rebs hot-rodded their Y-wings. Rip the plating since it's not all that effective against next-gen blasters and they only plan to use them in the black (where streamlining is for pussies and A-wings), use the saved power and weight to squeeze a few more points out of the sublight engine and overcharge the shields. Swapping out the gunner seat, second pilot's stores, and most of the turret can't have hurt the weight and power supplies either.
I imagine that's the only way the old girls stayed competitive enough to duck the Seinar Scourge.
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>>44659946
What's wrong with chilling with little girls?
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I see jagged took his older brother's advice when he became emperor.

>>44659909
HOW DOES THE BODY PAINT STAY ON!?!?
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>>44659996
Just riffing on the pink twi'lek looking kind of annoyed.
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>>44659909
>blue sucking on pink's lekku
Are they erogenous zones?
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>>44660090
Y-you didn't know?

Yes
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>>44659981
The Rebs locked the turret forward most of the time, but the "gunner seat" is still represented by a turret slot.

Current Ion Cannon Turret mockup:

ATK3, Range 1-2, 4pts, "ATTACK: Attack 1 ship (even a ship outside your firing arc). If this attack hits, the defender receives 1 ion token. Then cancel 1 of your <hit> results."

Cheaper because with my out-of-arc rule it's not throwing as many dice, has a slightly less static damage curve. It cancels AFTER the shot hits, so it might do an ion but no damage vs high-AGI, or an ion and 2 damage vs low-AGI that blanked out.

If I swap the out-of-arc rule to add an evade die instead of remove an attack die it'll go back up to 5 pts, and might anyway because 4pts makes it possible to run 4x 127th Wing Pilots with Composite Beam+Ion Turrets
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>>44660090
they're in the "moderately erogenous" category, like ears and the back of your neck
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>>44660090
They're extremely sensitive and house part of the Twi'Lek's brain. Grabbing them hard is apparently equivalent to squeezing testicles.
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>tfw no group to play Tales of the Jedi era Old Republic RP
It's all I've ever wanted for years and years now, but every Star Wars RP group I've ever got in contact with only wanted to do GCW
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>>44660006
>HOW DOES THE BODY PAINT STAY ON!?!?
They do make water-resistant body paint.
Of course, it's not perfect and whatever paint does fade and flake off is just corrected in Photoshop later.
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>>44660183
That seems like a major fucking vulnerability.
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>>44660183

The top of your head is a terrible place for unprotected sensitive bits.
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>>44660285

Theres a twi'lek who got one of them cut off, replaced with a prosthetic, and seemed mostly ok.
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Hey /swg/! I'm bouncing around an idea for a post-RotJ Star Wars fanfic based partially on historical events. I wanted the climax to be the Battle of Jakku, and I wanted to know if that's already been covered by NuCanon?
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>>44660655
yup in Aftermath I believe
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>>44660655
>I wanted to know if that's already been covered by NuCanon?
>>44660731
>in Aftermath

You might as well write it yourself, a blind legless hermit crab could write better than Wendig.
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>>44660731
>>44660745
>>44660655

I don't think it's actually detailed in Aftermath, but it is discussed in Lost Stars.
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>>44660655
There's also the Battle of Jakku DLC for Battlefront, for what that's worth.

Anyone else disappointed that Jakku was a desert planet before the battle, and it wasn't a temperate world that got Endor Holocaust'd by having a giant space battle above it?
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>>44660285
>>44660294
>>44660558
Basically everyone else writing for Star Wars ignored that story and had "brain tails" as slang.
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Can you get more special snowflake than pic related?
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>>44660757
>>44660780
Ok well let me discuss it a little further: I was listening to Mike Duncan's Revolutions podcast and, after hearing the story of Admiral Nelson's pursuit of Napaleon's Egyptian expedition, wanted to tell a similar story as a small Imperial force pursued a large republic fleet en-route to Jakku. However, unless I wanted to contradict established canon it may be better to write in another planet to subsitute for Not!Ottoman Egypt.
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>>44660780

Yeah, they went through a few versions of a Jakku like planet of different reasons and biomes in the scripts apparently. Desert was probably easiest to shoot with heavy focus on practical effects. And we all know Star Wars writers have a history of shoddy inertia when it comes to designs.
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>>44660830

ezpz
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>>44660860
>not even posting Rey(who barely qualified as Mary Sue anyway)
>Posting an antagonists with an insane degree of flaws
>Isn't even that powerful compared to Darth Vader

You fucked up.
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>>44660845

Canonically, Jakku was a huge battle on both sides with major massing by imps over a weapons plant on Jakku but their leadership was over-confident and underestimated how coordinated the New Republic assault would be, resulting in a terrible loss for the Imperial side, including an SSD (and canonically the only other one which exists).
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>>44660830
Do you even EU?

Also Light Whips.
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>>44660830
>She's also a Sith who uses her powers for good
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>>44660881
Alright, well I'll keep the basic structure and move it to another planet. Instead of all desert, I'm envisoning one with massive floodplains and agricultural areas surrounded by vast dunes, ala the Nile agricultural focus.
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So, Rey's gonna fall next movie, right guys?
>All dat fear in TFA
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>>44660909

That's probably cooler to be honest.
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>>44660894
That's not impossible, just not at all common, as the sith's core philosophy tends to attract mostly assholes. Nothing in the sith code forbids them from doing good.
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>>44660892
Why do Sith get all the cool shit and Jedi only use a normal straight handled saber, or maybe a normal saber + a slightly smaller saber if they want to get creative?
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>>44660872

The most salient feature of special snowflake-ness is believing that you are a special snowflake.

And hey guess what
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>>44660929
Would a good Sith be like a bezerker or something?
Try to stay calm and placate during most situations, but really let their hate and anger flow in battle.
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>>44660929
yes, but the dark side does
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>>44660954
no such thing.
here's how it is; the dark side WILL make you into an asshole no matter what, even if you intended to do good at the start
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>>44660930
Seems to me that if a light whip could work at all sorts of ridiculous shit should also be on the table

Also I have no idea how anyone could ever block that shit
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>>44660930
TFU had guys using lightsaber pikes. One of them was even a jedi. There was also one that used lightsaber tonfas, but I swear I remember seeing those in other stuff, not just TFU.
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>>44660991
They follow a cable which makes a core that the plasma emanates from instead of being a contained blade like a regular saber is.
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>>44660991
>inb4
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>>44660930

In-context answer: Melee combat isn't really what being a jedi is about. It's just a symbol of their order, more than anything. Signifies discipline and stuff. The Sith are much more about personal expression and their fighting styles are one area where this shows up.

Real answer: because every writer wants their villain to be different somehow, and the laziest possible way to go about it is to tack on some weird toys.
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>>44660860
You know, I'm surprised no-one has photoshopped Ben to look mulatto.
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>>44660996
Jedi Temple Guards in canon use double bladed lightsabers in best blade color
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>>44661083
Good times on the Lady Luck
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>>44661087
>best blade color
That doesn't look orange to me.
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>>44661087

Jedi Temple Guardian and Guard Shoto sabers were in Keeping The Peace, do you think any new sabers will appear in the Seeker splat?

And will a Rainbow Gem appear in it?
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>>44661037
Has anyone wielded a lightsaber one handed with a pistol in the other hand?

Or made lightsaber bayonet/lightsaber gunblade?

What kind of ranged weapon would you employ against a lightsaber user so you don't get a blaster bolt deflected into your face? Can lightsabers stop a slugthrower bullet?
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>>44661119
That's because orange is the worst color of anything
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>>44661124
Flechette guns fuck up Jedi something fierce.
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Question: Is the New Order a part of the imperial remnants or is the new order all that remains? Does that mean that the order controls the core worlds?
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>>44661124
>What kind of ranged weapon would you employ against a lightsaber user so you don't get a blaster bolt deflected into your face?
Sonic weaponry. Don't hurt as much but they can't reflect it.
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>>44661124
Ezra has a lightsaber with a blaster built into the handle. As for ranged weapons vs. Jedi: explosives.
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>>44661153
First Order. New Order was a name for the Empire. And yes, they appear to be all that remains unless some book I haven't read contradicts this
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>>44661124

Legends kind of waffles on the subject of slugs. Don't think Canon has commented on it.

In FFG, the game has a note that Reflect only works on attacks which could reasonably be deflected by a Lightsaber, such as blasters - scatterguns, flamethrowers or grenades. F&D DOES have Cortosis-Jacketed rounds though, so you can shoot lightsabers with disabling weapons then follow up with a regular shot.
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>>44660943
...he believes he's inadequate?
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>>44661188

>scatterguns, flamethrowers or grenades.

"Don't apply" is how I mean to finish that thought
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>>44661083
>>44661118
You know, the main fan theory back in '81-'82 was that the "other" Yoda mentions in ESB was, in fact, Lando.
>Lucky son of a bitch
>Charismatic and oddly persuasive
>Shows up on-camera almost immediately after yoda says it.
>Has a cape

Leia was barely on the radar.

...speaking of which, the vicious battles between the 2L shippers and the H/L crew are absolutely hilarious in hindsight.
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>>44661148
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guVAeFs5XwE
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Mods are asleep, post Twi'leks
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>>44661209
>Power Creep

I remember some Legends lore that said all a lightsaber would do is melt a slug round passing through it, not deflect it.
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>>44661229

Ok
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>>44660881
Correction: the only other one the empire believed was still intact.
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>>44661263
Hamill please, you don't have to do Joker impressions in every costume.
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Are their any good SW universe supplements that sums up races, kinds of ships, planets, weapons etc to help one write a campaign?
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>>44661248
As far as I know, nobody has ever suggested a lightsaber would deflect bullets.

The Force, on the other hand....
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I'm surprised at how hard it is to find good Dooku art. TCW Dooku kind of didn't get it, I feel.
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>>44661310
At a quick glance, I thought the thumbnail was a Jerec crew card. Now I'm just sitting here wishing such a thing existed.
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Posting best girl and best Jedi
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>>44661229
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>>44661323
It's really too bad there isn't a ship he could have been included on, although I guess we got Kyle and Jan with an A- and B-Wing so anything's possible.

Did I get it thematic enough at least?
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>>44661171
I thought that the Empire (Imperial Remnant, rather) only still controls the core, and is crippled by reparations and sanctions that the New Republic have put on them. The First Order is a load of people inspired by the Empire, and who have most of their shit stashed away in the unknown regions. Starkiller was just scratching the surface of what they've got.
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>>44661329

>typical white teenage boy fantasy.jpg
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Sometimes scratch builds just don't want to happen. Cutting new wings for the howlrunner, my last knife blade snapped and now won't score with enough detail to make neat enough cuts into the plastic card.

Guess I can continue work on it tomorrow..
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>>44661329
is that Rance?
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>>44661343
Seems suitable, the alternative was some kind of escape mechanism, like a free boost or barrel roll when attacked.
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>>44661343
Oh yeah, that Dooku looks awesome. I really like the ability, and the artwork is pretty well framed.

Personally, I was hoping for a Jerec on both the Decimator and the Raider. Still, as FFG run out of the sparse new stuff from TFA, I've still got my fingers crossed for best inquisitor to make an appearance.
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>>44661394
I thought about something that would reward you for getting 1 ship (and 1 ship only) in your firing arc, but

>he tends to take multiple people on
>he tends to get REALLY good hits (Anakin in AotC, the ledge on Obi-Wan in RotS)

He's not exactly nimble enough in the acrobatic sense to be a maneuver crew.
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>>44661412
>the artwork is pretty well framed.
God, this was a pain. It's a book cover, and the title text is RIGHT above his head, plus a little bracket or something on the right that extended way too far below it.

I'm just glad we got Mara on the Decimator. Fingers crossed Jerec shows up in Rebels or something.

>no Thrawn in the Raider
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is there a single anakin/ahsoka fic that isn't abjectly terrible?
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Bought the Gozanti tonight for X-Wing. Trial game with a friend, at 100 points, had a good amount of fun. It seemed like it didn't have enough firepower for its cost but I imagine that's less of an issue in actual Epic games?

What's best to put in my Gozanti? Mini TIE-Swarm? Bomber Strike Wing? Advanced Assault Squadron?
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>>44661472
Define "terrible"
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>>44661393
Pretty much. Zev, the main character of Jed Apprentice Quest, has Rance as his base image.
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I love Zahn, but having Luke and Mara shortly before the Vong war struggle to kill a single Droideka is a bit silly.
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>>44661475
Reminder that the Gozanti LOVES Fleet Officer, it doesn't take stress and you can combo with Automated Protocols. Fanfuckingtastic for deploying ships with a F+TL stack, since the Gozanti moves near-last and can get your low-PS ships in TL range.
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>>44661486
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>>44661481
extremely poor writing, pretending padme doesn't exist, nabakovian undertones, large quantities of shitty teenage angst, you know, the ususal
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>>44661535
Erm... There was this one with Ashoka getting knocked up, but not by Anakin. Instead its some other padawan who gets zerg rushed and then knifed to death in a battle. Only a bit of actual sex, and that takes place right at the start, rest of the story is pretty short as well.

I'll try and find it for you, if you want?
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>>44661535
That last item >is< kind of a defining character trait for one of the participants. As well as virtually all of the authors..

>>44661428
>>44661310
Shouldn't that be "at least" one damage?
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>>44661507
>F+TL stack
Not familiar with that acronym, what's it mean?
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>>44661558
eeeh. I'll pass; pregnancy stuff, especially with a teenage character just fills me with this odd and profound dread for reasons that I don't really understand

thanks, though
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>>44661586
Probably just as well, It's pretty sappy.
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>>44661570
Nope, it rewards precision.
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Y'think FFG will ever put these in X-Wing?
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>>44661608
Any reason you couldn't just proxy a Raider?
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>>44661574
focus+target lock
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>>44661617
>Omega Ace
Yes....yesss...YES
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>>44661574
>Not familiar with that acronym, what's it mean?
Focus/Target Lock, I imagine


>>44661389
Oi, Howlfag, I ran the pics of your failed shots by another casting buddy of mine. He suggested dusting the mold with a little talcum powder, if you have any. Apparently it helps break up the surface tension of the resin a bit, in a way that the petrochem mold releases don't, and lets the resin flow into spaces it wouldn't otherwise. Gonna dig up one of my more notoriously shitty molds and see how it works out tomorrow.

>my last SFW Twi'Lek pic...
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>>44661599
sappy, I am completely fine with. I even would say that I sometimes like it.
it's just that I can't do preg stuff. ESPECIALLY the disturbingly popular fanfic genre of "woman getting pregnant by guy who's dead/otherwise gone so that MC falls for her while being caring". no, really. NCIS, CSI and to a lesser degree doctor who are FILLED with it it just SLAMS my panic buttons like it's a bloody missile boat.
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>>44661614
Yeah. The raider is a corvette, the Nebula is a pocket star destroyer.
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>>44661608
Almost certainly not, what with the raider and their general allergy to Republic/Clone Wars expansions.
>ghtroc when?
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>>44661608
>>44661614
no. it's a goddamn full-sized Star Destroyer, almost literally a neo-venator.
MAYBE they'd put it in armada, MAYBE
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>>44661663
Personal stuff? Or just one of those things?
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>>44661670
Hopefully at some point. That and the YT-2000 would be fantastic
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>>44661682
not personal, but I can't articulate a reason. it's honestly not unlike my fear of heights; some part of my lizard brain is just crosswired in a certain way.

the thing is, I'm happy with my girlfriend and fully intend to have children in the future, and I don't have a problem with pregnancy in general, not at all. just it in romance.
maybe it's old-breed monogamous instincts that don't like the classic "love-commitment-pregnancy" cycle being out of order, I dunno
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>>44661711
Or it could be your brain warning you that the kind of crazy that writes that kind of schlock is not the kind to put your dick into
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>>44661205
>Luke blows up the Death Star
>Lando blows up the Death Star 2.
Just sayin'.
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>>44661711
Perfectly understandable. To be fair to the story, the father's death is portrayed as being something terrible. Doesn't gloss over it.
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>>44661733

True enough.

Though Wedge also shares in that second one, and the Falcon itself is a central participant in both.
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>>44661744
it's clear: the Falcon is the second force-sensitive
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>>44661124
also spam stun blasts. from canon material (clone wars 3d) the best you can do against them with a saber is dissipate the blast. which is way better than deflected friendly fire. and in legends stun blasts were exceedingly difficult to block because weird ring.
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>>44661752
>Han Solo reunites with the Falcon
>Han Solo reunites with Leia
>Kylo Ren kills him

It all makes sense now
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>>44661752
the falcon was an iron knight in hiding this whole time
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>>44661711
>maybe it's old-breed monogamous instincts that don't like the classic "love-commitment-pregnancy" cycle being out of order, I dunno
Those are your natural anti-cucc instincts in action.
Pay attention to them, keep them strong, beat the Jew media mind control
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>>44661646
Thanks, I will probably do that on the next mould I make. Still have to make new wings though, I want to make scribed wings that are a bit thicker (1mm instead of .5) this time. Also making a 2 part mould with cannons fulling encased in the lower mould (will have a mould line like pic related). Any thoughts on this line?

Also, might be good not to call me howlfag, while I have no problem with such names (sandgroperfag has been a common one for me for years in /tg/ related discussion) there was already a howlrunnerfag for sometime in these threads and things could get confusing. Also, I am a modelfag that makes more than just howlrunners, but am new to this scale so this Howlrunner is really my testing the waters.
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>>44661868
How bout we just call you modelfag?
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>>44661882
If you want, seems that there aren't any other scratchbuilders these days on here, so I guess that would work.

Also, does anyone have any good tools for designing layouts of freighters in Star Wars? I think I have some graph paper sitting in my supplies closet somewhere, but something that has the basic design rules of different manufacturers would be nice if one exists.
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>>44661586
Different anon, but I'd like a link.
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>>44661904
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/5357203/1/Forever_In_My_Heart
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hN74bOubUug
it's...pretty good
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how's ship encumbrance work in the ffg games?
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>>44662309
put bluntly, it doesn't
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>>44662305
>That thousand yard stare at the end.
Right in the feels.
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>>44662305
w-wow. I thought this was going to be some kind of cheesy parody edit, not... not that.
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>>44662344
Man, Alec Guinness was THE stare master.
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>>44661677
>neo venator

Yeah, no. The Nebula is much stronger. It can wreck ISDs on it's own and can survive one on one with SSDs. And it's only barely over 1000 meters. It's the Star Wars version of the Defiant.
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>>44662433
>can survive one on one with SSDs
Really? I knew the Nebula was good, but I didn't think it was that good.
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>>44662433
I've recently been getting the impression that the ISD was pretty "average" for a capital ship that size. More and more ships keep coming up from the woodwork that could smash them to bits in 1v1's or in very small gangs.
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>>44662305
Should've included scenes of Jedi generals as 'guardians of peace and justice'. The Clone Wars were nothing like Kenobi's idealization, except his friendship with Anakin (mostly because of TCW and EU making it real though). Jedi were equally hypocritical and warmongering as the Sith by the end of all it and it'd fit perfectly with that video.
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>>44662459
The ISD was the baseline established in the movies, and in the grand tradition of the EU every other writer tries to top the 'baseline' model because power creep. And considering the design philosophy behind a Star Destroyer was to subjugate a star system more or less by itself if needed, that's some strong power creep
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>>44662459
Well yeah if you get like a thousand corvettes you could wreck an Executor.

>>44662499
The ISD was an 'enforcer' type ship. It kept the peace and order of the Empire but it wasn't built for war. The Nebula was built for war and taking down Imperial Remnants. It's also why by the time the Imperials become an ally of the New Republic/Galactic Alliance and the Vong got brought down the NR/GA resort to using ships with a similar design philosophy to the ISD instead of the NSD.
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>>44662499
I suppose it's kinda like HMS Dreadnought. Every ship built after that was designed to be better than the Dreadnought, until you get up to the Yamato and people stopped building battleships in favor of carriers
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>>44660872
Because Vader could read minds and stop blaster bolts in midair.
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>>44662459
That looks like it'd belong in Freespace.

And the ISD is the iconic capital ship, so it's the one all the other beat up to show how badass they are.
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>>44662319
can you elaborate?
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>>44661794
This was a triumph.
Han's meeting his son again:
HUGE MISTAKE.
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>>44662562
sure. it doesn't make ANY FUCKING SENSE; freighters and larger, they seem to have taken the old WEG cargo number (in tons) and converted it to encumbrance, which completely shits the bed if you want to say haul a crate of 20 rifles in your light freighter, and for fighters (and some freighters with minimal canon cargo space) they just seemingly made whatever the fuck they felt like up.
there's no consistency and it shits the bed the second you try to do anything BUT barely fit a party's worth of personal gear into a YT-1300, is basically the problem.
honestly, I'd just ignore it and dig up the old WEG cargo amounts should it become relevant
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>>44662305
I want an extended version over johnny cash's hurt
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>>44662649
Nah, Hurt would work better showing Vader.


And you could have it all. My empire of dirt.
I will let you down. I will make you Hurt.
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>>44662610
>>44662562

I ignore Encumbrance completely unless its rules regarding how much a person can carry.

I treat the Ship's Encumbrance as number of cargo crates - and what a crate can carry is limited by the dimensions of a crate.
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Help me out here /swg/ what kind of technological devices can be used to power up an anti galactic terrorist group?
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The Star Destroyer design does have some massive compromises due to holding two regiments of stormtroopers, a portable fortress, 20 AT-AT's and a bunch of TIE fighters and landing ships.

A battleship that is also a carrier and an assault ship would be wrecked by a pure battleship of a similar size in a straight fight. But the SD is still vastly superior to most ships.
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I'd like to be a jedi tonight.
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>>44662699
A Death Star.
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>>44662704
Hence the Tector. It's literally an all-battlewagon ISD and it fuckin wrecks face
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>>44662712
geee thanks
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>>44662673
Use Hurt for a recut of the death star duel between the two
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>>44662699

A thousand pounds of 500 Grade Military Thermal Plastoid, enriched with Baradium
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>>44662699
Metal Gear
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>>44662699
Actual nukes.
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>>44662699

[Spoiler]The Glove of Darth Vader[/spoiler]
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>>44662699
Massive EMP device that can do EVERY electronic device on a continent in one go or knock out a capital ship in one shot
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>>44662532
Um... Yeah actually he could, he reads Luke's mind from a distance in VI and extracts all the details about his sister and in V when Lando leads them to the trap at dinner Vader just tells Han's blaster bolts to talk to the hand. The only thing that was preventing him from stopping it midair was the technology of the time and the fact there would be no point to show off.

Are you actually a Star Wars fan?
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>>44662731

Baradium? Get the hell out of here with that nonsense.
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>>44662763
>reads Luke's mind from a distance
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>>44662771
Baradium is a MYTH.
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>>44662699
Something to blow hyperdrive in the middle of nowhere trapping then in deep space?

Just sticking a whole load of mass in the middle of a major hyperdrive lane?
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>>44662731
>>44662738
>>44662739
>>44662751
maybe more simple stuff? like I thought of an enhancement for ships that makes them basically invisible or a synthetic virus that can contaminate ships and dissolve itself after the job is done, but both ideas are problematic, also keep in mind that it's made by an Arkanian research facility.
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>>44662771
>>44662791

Are you two trolling?
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>>44662802
it's a joke about the insane "nukes don't real" shit that pops up on /pol/ from time to time
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>>44662802
Haven't you read Mercy Kill?
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>>44662800

A bomb is fairly simple.

If you want a doomsday weapon, have someone reinvent the Mass Shadow Generator

>>44662810
not a meme im familiar with

>>44662817
No? Im guessing its a book. Who wrote it?
Traviss?
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>>44662800
Cute white haired space elves.
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>>44662305
>>44662649
>>44662673
>>44662728
on a related note, have this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYo57Gi-WKA
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>>44662827
Allston, it's the last Wraith Squadron book.

there's a very dim Aqualish who believes that gravity, Ewoks, and a few other things are all myths
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>>44662827
I don't want a doomsday weapon, I want something elegant and technologically cool, that can powerup a terrorist group to a point where it's causing a successful hindrance to the Republic but does not amount the need for full scale war.
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>>44662847
Hrm. Y'know, I've considered getting this with some of my christmas money (all of MSGV) are they worth it?
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>>44662859

....then have them be a terrorist group with connections who feed them the intel they need to further their goals, while simultaneously helping them avoid being caught.

They don't need a gimmick, a power up, a super weapon, just a few highly placed sympathisers/allies.

Have them based on some unremarkable world, with some unremarkable ships to travel in, but with a vicious streak a parsec long/wide.
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>>44662859

>elegant and technologically cool
>for terrorists
>hindrance to the republic
>NOT enough for a war

Stygium Cloaking Device?
Considering your referring to "Republic" - I can guess this is pre-empire? If so, then cloaking devices small enough for attack ships - patrol boats and heavy fighters - could be a real hindrance, but also technology worth capturing.

Also, I have a campaign canon explanation for Stygium Crystals - that being, Stygium Crystals are technically lightsaber crystals, forged in extremely nasty darkside saturated environments - which makes a stygium cloaking device detectable by Jedi (as a phantom wailing-of-the-damned) even if they can't see it - it also produces a black lightsaber if the crystal is put into one.

Just a thought anyway
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>>44662859

A rogue slicer has invented a virus which usurps droids, turning them into sleeper agents. It is at least capable of being subtly transmitted from one droid to another, without either knowing.
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>>44662833
I love Jarael. Unfortunately she's one of a kind hybrid.
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>>44662912
Yeah, she's a qt. I wonder what happened to her and whatisname...
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>>44662899
>Stygium Cloaking Device
It's too expensive and unreliable.
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>>44662926
They lived happily ever after, helping refugees and stuff from all the wars that happened in that time period.
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>>44662952
Oh good. Much better than what I thought happened.

Horrible deaths, of course.
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>making a bomber/advanced/Firespray swarm for Imps in Armada

The force bless Major Rhymer
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>>44662928

Well I dont have any other ideas, so good luck
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>>44662964
Cause Zayne wasn't actually a jedi he avoided all that mess. Hopefully.
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>>44662899
>Considering your referring to "Republic" - I can guess this is pre-empire?
Yeah campaign is set 958 BBY

I like your idea btw, I'll try to see if I can incorporate this.

>>44662903
This is good and I might include it somehow anyway but I need something that would help them raid trading routes
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>>44662985
I wonder what happened to him when Jedi Civil War and Jedi Purge came.
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>>44662988
>This is good and I might include it somehow anyway but I need something that would help them raid trading routes

Knowing where and when convoys are going to be is the most important part of raiding a trading route, after all.
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>>44662995
That's what I'm trying to avoid thinking about.

I got invested in those characters, dammit, I liked them. I really hope they didn't die.
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>>44662988
>but I need something that would help them raid trading routes

Hyperlanes and Trading Routes are pretty well defined. Also, you can't change direction in Hyperspace, which means you need to revert to Realspace for course corrections. Considering safety, stops are done near civilized systems along hyperspace routes to maximize the chance that a ship can get help if its hyperdrive fails.

A system is pretty big, containing a full solar system of planets.

That means, that if you drop out of Hyperspace in the mass shadow of a System, you wont be inside the system - you'll be on the edge - and have to traverse the system to the other side to re-engage your hyperdrive.

During that time, a pirate attack is most likely, assuming the world isn't heavily patrolled. A major hyperlane will probably have some security - a small hyperlane likely wont, depending on where the world is. Space is Dangerous.

Pre Empire Hyperlanes, the security is probably for-hire, and as such, wont do shit for you unless you pay them or already have (like an insurance business). Core Worlds are likely different, because its the core
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>>44662997
that would be arranged without anything new technologically, my terrorist group is behind the scenes influenced and led by Darth Zannah and Cognus and they have an underground network of information retrieval and spies not unlike the one Bane had, also Cognus is way too good at predicting the future I'm sure organizing terrorist actions won't be a problem.
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So, I have an X-Wing event on the 30th, does anyone know if Wave 8 is going to be out by then?
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>>44663077
Not likely. We didn't get a Mist Hunter preview yesterday, so I'd say 4 weeks minimum (1 for each preview, 1 for the wrap-up preview, and 1-2 for ships to actually make it to stores.
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>>44661608
Man why is the EU so full of not SD copies? And why are they going with bigger and bigger ones every time? I'm glad lots of them got rekt be canon.
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>>44663161
Same reason its full of not Vaders, and full of superweapons that try to one up the Death Star (hell, even TFA fell for that)
Every writer wants to make their own SD, but its better because reasons. Plus its a very distinctive and menacing profile so it works as a visual reference. Hell, the fact the Clones used them was part of their set up as "this is going to end badly for the Republic"
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>>44663182
>pseudo ISD looks
>built in shadow mass field for interception
>actually it's utter shit compared to ISD and only was relevant because of time gap between two eras.

That's how you make not SD the right way.
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>>44663250
Such a weird shape. Center of mass is going to be all the way at the back, not going to make thrusting easy.
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>>44663263
>>44663250
I can't forgive that massive gap in the middle. Your opening a hole direct into the rear of the ship, and with how strong fighters are in Star Wars the last thing you want is to open a gap for them to exploit
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>>44663263
>space
>center of mass
>thrusting
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>>44663182
Well at least with TFA, Starkiller Base was meant to show that the First Order were superior to the Empire.
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>>44663284
To be honest I'm completely OK with Starkiller base as a logical extension of the Death Stars
It's basically an interstellar ballistic missile to the original films nuclear bombs
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Quick, /swg/, you're my only hope.

For an upcoming Edge of the Empire/Age of Rebellion game I've built an alcoholic agitator from Alderaan who can't shoot or stab worth a damn but can convince and lie to a stormie to shoot himself in the head.

I've been given 3,000 credits, and apart from the basics of a comlink, knife and armour, what should I get for her?
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How come the New Republic doesn't help Leia and her Resistance? Weren't they the reason that the Republic even got back on it's feet. Bunch of basic bitches.
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>>44663357
They'd been at war for decades at that point, and they didn't want people shitting on the Republic for being as bad as the Empire. If the Imperials wanted to fuck off to unknown space and jack off or whatever, the Republic wasn't going to go tell them no
As for the Resistance, its a bunch of bored pilots and former Rebellion officers who can't let go of the glory days. Throw them some credits or mothballed fighters for old times sake, but don't commit anything officially
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>>44663414
>Mothballed fighters.
Than wrecked the TIE like nothing. Why is the Remnants still using the fuckers.
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>>44663357
The New Republic signed a peace-treaty with the Imperial holdouts and settled into a semi-comfortable cold-war with them. The Resistance is perceived as a dumping-ground that lets people who don't trust the Imps to abide by that treaty self-select out of the 'sane' military to indulge their 'paranoia' and keep an eye on the bad guys. They're seen as the kind of nuts who can't let go of the past, who still keep trying to fight a war that's been over for decades... but when someone as high-profile as Leia Organa Solo decides she's not going to trust a scorpion to keep its word, you can't exactly lock her in a looney-bin.
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About to start my biennial TOR playthrough with my friend, where I promise to commit and then burn out at 15 while he takes his guy to cap. He's going Bounty Hunter and I'm thinking of Imperial Agent because the story is apparently one of the best. Can you confirm this /swg/? Mostly in it for a good narrative.
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>>44663277
You ever went into spaceship design in kerbal space engineers? Center of mass is important to stop your ship spinning uncontrollably or breaking in two when you fire the main engine.
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>>44663429
TIE's have always been a case of gotta go fast and shields too slow, its part of their DNA
Just look at the new TIE/sf, that thing was enlarged and rigged for ground support work, and instead of shields it just got more gun
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>>44663448
It's also much more killy at the cost of a couple of cheap laser cannons on a gimbal mount and an untrained stormtrooper.
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>>44663448
The new ties do have shields. Not as strong as an xwing. But still some.
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>>44663448
>>44663473
I'd love to see a character in the films who was a pilot in the Empire (fingers crossed for Fel expy) who complains about how easy they have it now.

>These first order pansies don't know they've been born! When I was flying TIEs, you had an engine, some guns, and a seat in the middle for you to sit on. You had to wear a spacesuit just to be able to breathe, and if you sneezed too hard, the whole thing shattered into a thousand pieces!
>God those days were fun.
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>>44663459
Yeah, god knows where they found the room for missiles though.
It's one sexy piece of kit, and I really hope it turns up in X-wing one day. A TIE that can shoot backwards and pack ordnance
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>>44663448
It made sense when you have the resource of half the galaxy and a unlimited pool of pilots, but for a remnant not so much.
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>>44663478
I'd love to see more veterans of the old Empire turn up Ultimate dream never going to happen appearance is of course Admiral Thrawn leading a First Order invasion of Republic space
Hell, my current theory as to why Phasma is allowed a name is she became a living legend to the average stormtrooper after surviving most of the major battles following Endor and managed to escape with the Remnant
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>>44663357
Thought they did secretly help, but got blown up by planet space laser.
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>>44663485
The Empire took decades to figure out how to rig a shield to a TIE without sacrificing mobility, a remnant is likely to just stick with what they know works and just pile into their existing designs advantages
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>>44663492
Its funny, I'd imagined the old TIE pilot from >>44663478 to actually be working for the New Republic now.
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>>44663529
There are probably old tie vets on both sides.
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>>44663545
Seems likely, TIE corp had to be huge.
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>>44663529
Well, for either side it'd be neat to see veterans of the Rebellion that aren't the main characters.
An ex-Imperial pilot trying to adapt to how the Republic does things would be interesting actually. Plus the whole "oh hell yeah, an X-Wing, I've wanted to try these for years!"
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>>44663014
Currently in a post KOTOR II era campaign, we actually ran into Zayne. Poor fucker had somehow wound up in a carbonite block as part of a Hutt hoard, we thawed him out and he got nervous because carbonite sickness and being on a shipful of Jedi

Somewhat peeved he didn't invite us to the 'Gryph's restaurant on Coruscant in return for getting him out. But then the last time we went there we got into a street battle with Mando thugs and a Hutt with guns for arms
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Why is this so fucking strong? How are normals supposed to compare to a motherfucker chucking AT-ATs around with only 2 pips?
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Which do you prefer?

The old logo for the New Republic, from the EU.

(pic related)
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>>44663573
Or the NR logo from the new EU (good a term as any, I suppose)?
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>>44663573
>>44663581
They both look like ass.
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>>44663581
I'd like to see it on a proper flag, but its certainly more impressive than the old one. Bit bright on the colours, but going red and black is a bit too old Empire.
New one looks like a clean break from the old days
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>>44663566
Because unless you have the Hurl upgrade too it's pretty slow, steady movement like lifting the X-wing out of the swamp
Plus it costs like 30xp to be able to lift a fighter-sized object, let alone a fucking walker
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>>44663581

I don't like how either incorporates the Alliance Starbird. The Rebel Alliance and the New Republic should be two separate things. The New Republic is supposed to be the government of the galaxy, and many New Republic worlds had nothing to do with the Rebellion.

The New Republics military should have the Starbird, to represent the people who fought to bring the New Republic in power. The Symbol of the New Republic should be something to represent the whole galaxy, whether they fought or not.

But thats just my opinion
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>>44663573
Prefer this one. The New Republic means business, Imperials better step the fuck down
Also Disney canon is shit by default, even more so with that piece of 90s-esque graphic design
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>>44661646
Do anyone have any r34 pics of Hera
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>>44663615
That's a solid point. Hrm, what would you have instead?

I mean, the symbol of the old Republic was that roundel that was supposed to represent the presence of the beneficent Force. Then when Palps took over, he chopped two of the spokes off to make his own symbol.
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>>44663628
>Also Disney canon is shit by default

While I generally agree, I do think that Mon Mothma's choice of demilitarizing the New Republic makes sense as something she would do. She was the Senator and representative of Chandrilla, which is a pacifist planet of philosophers .

Plus, while George didn't write the new lore, he has shown time and again that the highest morality in Star Wars, on a political level, is Pacifism, and represents many pacifist societies as the ultimate goodguys. So again, it makes sens that the New Republic would attempt to make a galactic nation with no military power, and try to de-emphasize military power in general. Plus, its a kneejerk reaction to wanting to be as far from the Empire as possible in terms of how you appear to the galaxy.

>>44663641
I dunno - a variation on the Old Republic logo, and something newer. You can use some of the same sorta stylings as the Starbird (notably wings and a central spear) - just that it isn't exactly the Starbird. But by showing stylings, it can represent that "We are the Old, and The New, and what we are came from the actions of the Brave"
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>>44663609
The upgrades go up to silhouette 4 if I'm reading this right, which is the size of a fucking AT-AT walkerand does 40 damage with the appropriate Control power. Isnt that kind of crazy compared to anything the normals can do at that level?
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>>44663671
And look where that got them in TFA. Ackbar wouldn't have stood for that shit.

>>44663681
Doesn't ignore soak, a rocket launcher will. Plus you're counting on there being something that size to throw in the area
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>>44663692
>And look where that got them in TFA. Ackbar wouldn't have stood for that shit.

And he didn't. That's why he was with the Resistance in the film.
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>>44663671
>So again, it makes sens that the New Republic would attempt to make a galactic nation with no military power, and try to de-emphasize military power in general
Just going from little has been pulled out of the new canon, I get the impression the Republic had dialed back to a Self Defense Force style of military, that spent a lot of time following the capital around as it got shifted between members. Basically just a bunch of cruisers to hang in orbit around the capital world to give the impression of a defence and patrol ships to secure trade lanes
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>>44663697
Wait, that random Mon Cal was fucking Ackbar?
I have a new reason to hate this movie on top of all the rest.
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>>44663692
Ackbar didn't stand for that shit, he was part of the Resistance in TFA.
And to be fair to the Republic, knowing that the Empire had fucked off to the unknown reaches is one thing, knowing they'd built a Death Star with interstellar range is another.
Until they fired it I don't think anyone outside the First Order even knew Starkiller existed
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>>44663713
>I have a new reason to hate this movie on top of all the rest.
Why's that?
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>>44663671
>he has shown time and again that the highest morality in Star Wars, on a political level, is Pacifism
Pretty sure that he's simply shown that pacifism gets people killed. Every achievement, every victory the heroes ever gain is because there are people with the balls to step up to the plate and fight the good fight. Remember that Star Wars is heavily inspired by World War II. Appeasement and pacifism didn't work well in the 1930s, and they didn't work well in Star Wars.
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>>44663692
>Ackbar wouldn't have stood for that shit.

Ackbar hated war, as did the rest of his race. it may not have occurred to you, but Mon Cal warships were cruise liners before being converted to warships.
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I hope the Obi Wan trilogy rumor is real. Him, Ahsoka and TCW Anakin were the only good things about the prequels.
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>>44661472
>>44661535
The answer is no. On another note, want any River/Mal? I'm swimming in this river of crazy and there's plenty to go around.
>>44661558
>>44661570
>doing my job
Well.... I was asleep, so okay, whatever.
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>>44663692
What does a little bit of Soak matter if you're easily doing 30-40 damage compared to a 20 damage missile whenever there is a ship or anything big around?
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>>44663733
Pacifism being the highest form of morality, and pacifism simply getting people killed aren't mutually exclusive positions. It's why the Jedi are such a contradiction, warriors, diplomats, generals and philosophers
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>>44661229
>tfw no female twi'lek with her feelers down like pic related
is it just male exclusive?
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>>44662873
It was a let down compared to other Metal Gears, the story looks unfinished as hell. The open world its good the first hours, then gets a tad repetitive. Gameplay in my opinion is really good.

In general, its not bad, really entertaining and the multiplayer what little i spended on it was fun. So get it when its price is a bit down and you'll get it's price worth
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>>44663741
>want any River/Mal
Mmmmaybe? Not usually my favourite pairing (River/Jayne=OTP), but I could be interested.
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>>44663728
He's reduced to a talking head that plays second fiddle to Leia and some random other jackass. They don't even fucking address him by name

>>44663734
There's a difference between hating it but knowing it as a necessary evil, and wilfully blinding yourself to the dangers of leaving yourself defenseless. Ackbar's always been the former.

>>44663744
Blast damage. Trigger Blast with a rocket tube and you're dealing 30 damage or so, maybe more if you spent the 45 xp you'd spend on throwing shit around with the Force on stuff from the Demolitionist spec tree.
Plus there's the whole fact that Force dice give you way worse odds than just pulling the trigger on a Gunnery weapon
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>>44660930
So, Sith get all the best and worst handles/hilts, while Jedi get all the best and worst colors?
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>>44663733

Eh, its more complicated then that.
Naboo, Alderaan, Chandrilla, and Mandalore are all shown to be "good guy" planets - peaceful, with benevolent rulers, selfless internal governing, and rather idyllic societies full of happy people.

They become victim worlds to show who exactly the badguys are.
>Mandalore
>Deathwatch and Maul are badguys
>you should cheer for them, see?
>Alderaan
>gets popped by the deathstar balloon
>see, you shouldn't like the empire

George wasn't making a commentary that fighting is whats good - but that the bad guys are evil because they kill the defenseless good guys

Each of the above worlds were founders of the Rebellion too. (except Mandalore, obviously)

>>44663781
Ackbar would be down for the idea of what the New Republic has become - he probably suggested the idea of Planetary Defense Forces as a compromise to Mon Mothma's total disarmament
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>>44663789
>you should cheer for them, see?

I mean't "should'nt"

Fuck this cold kills my finger dexterity
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>>44660176

If you knew how to go to town a woman's ears and neck, your know there's nothing moderate about them.
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>>44663789
I'd like to believe even Mon Mothma wouldn't go full Relena Peacecraft-tier retardation...
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>>44663817
They still had a fleet, they just didn't have the desire to go route out the last fleeing remnants of the empire from a more or less completely unexplored region of space. From the perspective of a war weary democracy it just wasn't worth it, and only a minority believed the Imperials would ever be a threat again. Hell, just look at Poe's face when he's dragged aboard the Star Destroyer, the dude is shocked that the First Order even has such a thing, and he signed up even before that
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>>44663817

That depends on how retarded you think she was in the first place.

Compare her to her contemporaries, and those who started the Rebellion - notably Bail Organa and Padme Amidala - both of whom died. She'd want to honor their memory and what they stood for by aligning the new government to what they would wish for.

That being, an idyllic nonviolent state
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>>44663861
why wasn't their son named Bail Solo
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>>44663872
Perhaps they wanted to name their son after the man who brought all three of them together for the first time?
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>>44663872
People barely remember who Bail Organa was, but Ben is a name that even non Star Wars fans know is from the series
Plus doesn't Han jokingly say he'll name his son after Ben in New Hope? Maybe he felt like he owed the old man some recognition
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>>44663882
Okay, so Obi-Wan Solo
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>yfw he outlived Rex and possibly the rest of his brothers
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>>44663882
>all three of them
Not how babies are made. Or at least, that's not required.
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>>44663750
There is not and never has been a contradiction between being a warrior and a philosopher.
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>>44663887

Ya know...that is an interesting point. I never would have thought that maybe Han had a newfound respect for Obi Wan after seeing that he both made way for their escape, and kept the enemy busy so they could get away - buying their freedom with his life.

Han Solo was always supposed to be an honorable man at his core. That sacrifice could have moved him.
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>>44663918
>Han
>honorable
he shot first
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>>44663938
Also the same guy who would die just to find Luke and bring him back.
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>>44663938
Honourable doesn't have to mean stupid.
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>follow pic related for TCW watching
>doesn't even mention Season 6

What the fuck guys?!
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>>44663938
Letting someone you know is about to try and kill you shoot first is not honourable, its just stupid.
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>>44663955
Season 6 was bantha poodoo.
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>>44663768
Well... uh, take your pick: unnecessary crossover, unnecessary crossover, or angsty mush?
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>>44663970

Explain
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>>44663955
Season 6 was pretty much entirely good. It even managed to make Jar Jar funny by pairing him with Mace as a straight man.
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>>44663975
On second thoughts; Bleh. Last thing I need now is angsty shit.

Having to self-medicate with chocolate, I don't even...
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>>44663955
When the guy made it his recommendation in the post I believe was just "Watch all of Season 6".
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>>44663989

Well shit.

I have to wait two days to get it, and I'm on the last episode of Season 5.
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Since we know Disney is turning Star Wars into Marvel Cinema, what show would you guys like on Netflix? Mace Windu series?
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>>44663992
That means there are Dementorsaboutm a, n
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>>44663750
>It's why the Jedi are such a contradiction, warriors, diplomats, generals and philosophers
The Jedi are only "pacifists" in the sense that OJO in EU media tried to use violence as an absolute last resort. Even then, in the actual films, they're cool with cracking skulls when negotiations fail (and they're contractually obligated to always fail). The Jedi of the OT were just Space Samurai. Then look at the heroes. Han shoots first. Leia is willing to pick up a gun and shoot stormies, and in the canon comics, when she sees Vader, her first instinct is to tell Chewie to take the shot. Luke is a war veteran and a hotshot fighter ace. The pacifism thing can use Vader's redemption as an argument but Luke still fought stormies on Endor. That was more of a case-by-case basis.

>>44663789
>Chandrila
Criticized in Legend as sanctimonious, self-righteous people who wrongly attempt to impose their society's values on others. Most Legends Chandrilans were sheltered rich people who didn't have to struggle for a thing in their lives. Canon Chandrila is too sparsely explored for me to use it as an argument, however.

>Naboo
They were largely peaceful, but they and the Gungans still had a standing military.

>Alderaan
Not explored well enough yet in canon to say. Legends Alderaanians, however, were a mixed bunch. Many Alderaanian heroes weren't pacifists at all. Tycho, Winter, and Legends Leia got shit done because they were okay with getting their hands dirty.

>Mandalore
Pacifism failed on Mandalore.

And Mon Mothma, the most iconic member of Chandrilan society, still led an armed rebellion. The canon Nubian and Alderaanian Rebels weren't pacifists either. Padme and Leia were willing to pick up guns and shoot people. And in Rebels, weren't the CR90s provided by Bail or some other Alderaanian leader?

Pretty sure part of George's message is that pacifism is unfeasible. Sometimes, evil has to be fought.
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>>44663969
I'm going to need some context for this.
Why is Han fighting a magical badger?
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>>44660090
No, not at all.
That's why the pink one looks so irritated.
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>>44664034

Looks more like a Stoat to me.
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>>44663555
I'd love to see a Imp TIE veteran and a NR X-Wing veteran try out each others ship for fun. Like how the old WWII fighter aces tried out each others aircrafts after the war to get a feel of how the other side had it.
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>>44664033
>but they and the Gungans still had a standing military.

They had a volounteer defense force.
Even Jar Jar makes mention of that he believes the friction between the Naboo and the Gungans is because the Gungans DO have an army (and likely refuse to submit to the leadership of the Naboo Queen)

>Alderaan
>NO! Alderaan is peaceful, we have no weapons!
>mentioning Alderaan expats doing violence AFTER their world got blown up.

Also, Tycho and Leia are special cases. Tycho joined the Imperial Academy and went rogue after Alderaan was blown up - Leia is a skywalker and therefore, reckless and sharing all the traits of her mom.

>Mandalore
Pacifism was successful until the Clone Wars, and likely would have continued being successful, had the war NOT fucked up everyones day

>Mon Mothma
The early rebellion leaders wanted a political change, and did not how to bring that about militarily. This is why they practically begged Garm Bel Iblis to join them, and why people like Ackbar were so important. Mon Mothma and Bail were not military leaders, and did not make military decisions - they waited in the wings for the time when an actual govt would rise from the fighting
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>>44664116
>>44664033
>Mandalore
>pacifism
I only know about Mandolarians through KOTOR and I remember that race being adamant on combat, war and stuff like that. They even praised Revan for smashing them in.
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>>44664116
A 'volunteer defence force' with fighter craft and armoured vehicles maintained with government money is a standing military, claiming otherwise is just semantics.
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>>44664162
Turns out millennia of getting their fudge packed, ending with getting Mandalore itself glassed, convinced a sizeable faction of people into saying that hey, maybe pacifism isn't such a bad idea.

Granted, their rule is pretty short and its ended during the Clone Wars, but it still happens and makes sense in context.
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>>44664162

By modern times, the Mandalorians switched to a pacifist nation after the republic reduced the world to a wasteland

It didn't last past the Clone Wars however
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>>44664164

Depends on what you do with it - Naboo didn't fight wars of conquest, and didn't even try to bring the Gungans to heel using force.

Sure sounds like Defense to me, semantics or not - and a nonviolent peaceful society, military or not, does not fight wars of imperialism or expansion.

And thats the point I was making
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>>44664207
A defence force is just a nicer name for a military. You don't have to go bother people with it for it to count.
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>>44664229

The distinction is important.

The Japanese don't call their armed forces an Army or a Navy - nor do the Germans.
>Japanese Self Defense Force
>German Bundeswehr (Federal Defense)
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>>44664250

Aaaand I fucked up - Germans do refer to their shit as Heer and Marine and Luftwaffe

But the rest of my point stands in any case
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>>44664250
Neither does Australia, and yet we function exactly like a regular military would, because that's exactly what a Defence Force is. A military with a nicer name.
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>>44664267
Well, it's both correct. Bundeswehr is the term for the combined armed forces. The other three terms are for the individual branches: Heer is the army, Luftwaffe the air force, and Marine the navy.

>>44664283
Defense forces usually have constitutional limitations as to when and how they may be deployed.
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>>44664283

Yeah well, in Naboo's case, its not the same thing

>Our security volunteers will be no match against a battle-hardened Federation army."
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>>44664207
Not really no. A standing military is a standing military. Whether it's for conquring your neighbors or just a defensive force doesn't matter here.
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>>44664250
No, its really not.

Its the exact same thing with a different name. The only difference is how the people want to try and present themselves.

Its still an armed force supported by a government for the purposes of defending the nation and its interests. 'Defence forces' can still deploy abroad or undertake offensive actions and armies just called 'Army' can sit at home never bothering anybody.
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>>44662892
Is that Revolver "Revolving Door" Ocelot?
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>>44664310
>a battle-hardened Federation army
?
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>>44664116
>Volunteer defense force
Still a military. They had milspec weapons, milspec speeders, milspec starships, and if Galactic Battlegrounds is anything to go by, even flamethrowers. I'd argue that the friction is caused by the Nubians simply not wanting a military competitor on their planet.

>AFTER their world got blown up.
Legends mentions that Tycho wasn't the only Alderaanian who joined military service. Alderaan's government also wasn't full pacifist--their planet may not have had any weapons, but Another Chance and her escorts were built just in case they actually had to fight again. Said ships were owned by the Alderaanian Guard, whose "security force" status nevertheless still allowed them to own milspec capital ships.

Leia may have been a Skywalker, but she was raised as an Alderaanian. Leia's family required that she be trained to fight, even at least in self-defense. Pre-Yavin Legends Leia also ran several missions for the Rebel Alliance, with at least one being a combat deployment.

Raymus Antilles, another Alderaanian, led several combat missions against the Empire as well in Legends.

>Mon Mothma did not make military decisions
One of Garm's reasons for starting his own party was precisely because Mothma was becoming more and more of a control freak. She took leadership roles in the theft of the Fresian X-wing prototypes and the Death Star plans, both of which were military operations. She hired Kyle Katarn and Jan Ors to run missions for the New Republic, and you don't hire Kyle Katarn to do peaceful shit. She also hired Han Solo to raid or infiltrate Imperial bases.
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>>44664325

Why do you think all those Bothans are dead?

I'm looking forward to Rogue One just to see how many bothans they actually kill for it.
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>>44664325
>Garm Bel Ocelot

Well he does fake his death and go into hiding, leading his own private rebellion....

Hmmmm
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>>44664345

...wasn't that the second Death Star that they just started killing Bothans until the Emperor told them to stop?
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>>44664345
Rogue One is about the first Death Star, I'm pretty sure.
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>>44664345
Man I'm so hyped for Rogue One.
Even if we don't get any Rebels cameos or mentions, Rogue One's cast will def be in Rebels in some shape or form.
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>>44664365
>>44664363

...you are right. I am an idiot. For some reason I was thinking that it was Bothans -> Leia -> R2 for the plans.
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Can the B-wing shoot mini-Death Star lasers like it did in Rebels in XWM?
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>>44664401
Depends. Do you consider the Heavy Laser Cannon upgrade to be an appropriate substitute or do you require an actual composite-beam laser card for it to count?
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>>44664401

Not yet. I wouldn't be suprised to see it make it in as a Cannon Upgrade a few waves down the line, when they're beginning to get desperate.
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>>44664401
Nope. The one in Rebels was a rough draft prototype. The scrubbed the comp laser in later revisions due to it shorting out the hyperdrive, plus it was probably way to expensive and maintenance-heavy for a line fighter.
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>>44664316
>>44664340

Lets just agree to disagree

Naboo is different from Alderaan in that at least they do have a means of defense. However, even before and during the clone wars, Alderaan did too. I imagine their reason for complete disarmament was disgust with how far the republic had fallen (considering how stupid the clone wars was), and to appear as non-threatening to the Empire as possible

>>44664340
They didn't have milspec speeders - they were upgunned speeders with a blaster canon - thats hardly a tank.

I also disagree with your assertion about military competition with the Gungans - everything about Naboo says they would love to have them be friends and get along together - and are thrilled to work together to push the TradeFed off world. You make them sound vaguely fascist.

>Another Chance
It also mentions every other warship was melted down into peace medals Also, wtf is three frigates really gonna do if Alderaan needed to fight again? I agree the intention might be what you claim, but if so, its a really bad plan.
(Also, Another Chance was recovered, and apparently filled with junk that made up for the loss at Derra IV - way to go Alderaan)

>Mon Mothma
That sounds like hinky Legends shit, honestly. I'll concede on that point, mostly because I can't fight hinky EU justifications for things.

>>44664335
Believe it or not, but apparently Battle Droids were supposed to be badasses until George literally forgot that fact
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>>44660830

Did she score her first capital ship kill and ace dogfighting kills at the age of 10? Does she even Podrace? Can she assemble a protocol droid while enslaved to a flying space jew using just spare parts? How's her mitachondria count? The highest ever? Is she "the one" who will "bring balance to the force"?
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How's this look for an Imperial list?


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>>44664450
Are Midichlorians the powerhouses of the Force?
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>>44664463
Probably not, just bacteria attracted to force sensitives.
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>>44664463
No one knows since Disney now seems content on ignoring them, hell outside of episode one their is'nt much mention of them in any new cannon sources, even the old EU is lacking on any really tangible mentions of them.
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>>44664463
Vader had the most yet Luke was able to match him...
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>>44664445
>Believe it or not, but apparently Battle Droids were supposed to be badasses until George literally forgot that fact
But I don't think a droid army can be battle hardened unless they were used all the time with the same memories.
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>>44664482
TCW has an arc which mentions them.

They're conduits connecting the Living Force (ie the Force inside people and other living things) to the Cosmic Force (the Force that binds everything together).
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>>44664445
>Battle Droids were supposed to be badasses
Well, after Episode 1 they started giving the droids more individuality so that taking out their command ship wouldn't make them all go offline.
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>>44664487
It makes even less sense if you consider that memory wipes were standard procedure for droids.

Unless commanders like OOM-9 didn't get wiped periodically.

Or its just inconsistent writing.
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>>44664487
Well, the army as a whole could still benefit from combat experience by optimising the strategical and operational procedures. The individual droids won't get any better, but perhaps the biological commander behind them may eventually learn that "line everyone up in tight rank and file formation on an open field" is not a good idea.
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>>44664499
Is the Cosmic Force evil? Is this why Luke can still deflect things with his lightsaber when being cut off by Ysalamiri?
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>>44664513
So the TF neimoidians are still not battle-hardened at all?
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>>44664445
Why do you have such a problem with calling an armed force maintained by a government for national defence a military?

And why did you pretend that not hiding it behind euphemisms means you will use it aggressively?
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>>44660090
They also host part of the brain. Cutting them, beside causing major pain, basically lobotomizes the twi'lek.
Thay are also used in a sort of non-verbal language, so the twi'lek must have control of their muscles

>>44660558
yet another case of inconsistency
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>>44664528
Why would they be? They're merchants. They don't fight regularly. The only reason they are a major player in the CIS is because of how rich they were. They owned the means of production but otherwise they're as dumb as the Naboo are in terms of war. It's like if two Italian merchant houses went to blows.
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>>44664543
I think they've toned down that bit in recent years. I mean it's be pretty dumb to have such large parts of your brain out in the open like that
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>>44664516
>Is the Cosmic Force evil

wat

No. The Cosmic Force isn't evil. I have no idea how you came to that conclusion. The Cosmic Force is no more evil than gravity is.

The Cosmic Force creates the Living Force, and the Living Force feeds back into the Cosmic Force in a neverending cycle.
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>>44664537

>why

Because not adhering to the distinction makes Naboos Armed Forces sound much more capable then they actually are.

When you use the term Military, suddenly Naboo and Corellia might as well be the exact same - when they aren't.
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>>44664573
So having more Midichlorians than someone else means they're stronger?
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>>44664582
>much more capable than they actually are
You underestimate how incompetent or weak real world "armies" can be.
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>>44664592
It means that they have more potential, not that they necessarily ARE stronger.

It's as much about bandwidth as it is U/D speeds.
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>>44664451

Actually pretty good? Drop the Mk2 Engines on Youngster, go for a 1pt Initiative bid as it'll help Fel.
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>>44664450
Also scored with a royalty and went to force heaven despite his crimes.

But then Anakin was an unlikable cunt, wishy washy, prone to angst, an arrogant prick, despite being the first to know what's up with Sheev is still retarded enough to believe his lies, and got his shit fucked up by a rich old fuck with a saber.
At least he's kinda cute.
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>>44664633

Real World armies generally have greater numbers

Which is another distinction between a much more military focused world, and Naboo.
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>>44664649
Being a Force ghost isn't "Force heaven."

It's an afterlife, but you're still "here."
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I heard that jedis can bond with their lightsaber crystals, and this can make the lightsaber really strong. Is it stronger than a synthetic-crystaled lightsaber?
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>>44664637
Thanks
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>>44664679
Didn't force ghosts drag force Palpatine to force Hell?
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>>44664592
>So having more Midichlorians than someone else means they're stronger?
No wonder this was story line shunted to the un-aired Season 6. Disney has started over pretty much and has full control of what goes in to the canon. Considering the backlash from fans over the reduction of the force from mystical to science thing they'll probably scrap using them again. Also point to remember, season 6 of clone wars was incomplete and has no been added to any of the official box sets since its release.
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>>44664651
>greater numbers
>than a planet's entire defense force
How fucking tiny is canon Naboo's military? We only saw on-screen action in and near Theed but I assumed that fighting occurred elsewhere on the planet.
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>>44664685
Attuning with a lightsaber crystal only makes it stronger in KotOR2, as a game mechanic.

>>44664699
Yes. But it was so they could keep him there otherwise he'd keep coming back over and over and over again.

At no point has being a Force ghost been described as something akin to going to heaven. Closest you'll get is something along the lines of them simply joining back with the Force.

>>44664718
It was unaired because Disney didn't want to air it on their rival, CN, but they hadn't chosen which of their networks they were going to start doing Star Wars shows on yet. It's still on Netflix.

Not being in a box set doesn't mean they don't support it.
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>>44664752
>How fucking tiny is canon Naboo's military?
pretty big
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>>44664582
That is not even slightly the case. All military implies is that its an armed body funded by the government to protect against threats. That can mean a bunch of volunteers to protect a palace or it can mean a system spanning superpower.

There are city police forces even in Europe with more men and a higher budget than some national armies in the real world.
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>>44664718
It has everything to do with cash. The show cost like 3 million dollars an episode, and Disney didn't want to pay for that. As for the canon thing, Disney is going to pretty for a while that they've got it under control but don't worry the bullshit will start squeezing in soon enough and we'll have stuff that's just as retarded as the Vong or Waru. That's why I hate this whole "one canon" thing instead of tiers. Books and video games will never have the same oversight as films, especially if they are aimed at young kids. It's not like Disney will bat an eye to overwrite a book with a new film, and I'd be surprised if they don't do just that even within the next 3-5 years. They should be honest with themselves and not pretend that Uprising or a young readers step up book is on the same level as the Force Awakens or even the show in terms of "canon"
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>>44664752
Pretty small, and by all accounts they were basically glorified police officers more than anything else. Their heaviest assets were a handful of upgunned land speeders, to give you some perspective
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>>44664776
>>44664776
>>44664776
Make the jump to hyperspace, y'all!
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>>44664803
What is even the hell
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>>44664796
This. The guys you see in the film seem relatively well-equipped by they are essentially the secret service and there's probably only like 20 of them. The rest are all those yellow shirt guys whose training probably consists of "this is the shooty end. Know how to fly a speeder? Well this is the same thing except with a big gun on it. Don't worry your job will pretty much be to keep drunk tourists from getting too rowdy"
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>>44664753
...Then why didn't they finish it... Many of the episodes they didn't finish had the rough animations and even some voice acting done, why not complete them.
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>>44664833
>>44664796

>been arguing this point for the last hour
>people post the exact thing im trying to say

I guess I must be shit at getting my point across
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>>44664845
The level of quality you see in the finished TCW episodes represents a STAGGERINGLY high budget.

Like Lucas was personally pumping money into it, you'd NEVER see a network do that kind of thing and once TCW was cancelled, they weren't going to get the opportunity to finish them anyway.
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>>44664845
Because Disney wasn't willing to spend the money to let them finish it? The episodes they DO have are the ones that were mostly finished. The rest were about to the stage of the Legacy story reels, or even less.

George was pumping huge amounts of money into TCW. Disney isn't giving Rebels anything close to the same budget, despite being almost entirely the same people working on it.
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>>44664796
Something like the Maltese military then.

Only 2000 people,12 aircraft and 8 patrol boats in it. Spends most of its time basically doing police/coast guard stuff or guarding important buildings. But its still a standing military.
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>>44664884
>>44664864
No wonder Rebels looks like shit compared to TCW. I always wondered how TCW looked so nicely done if it's a TV show.
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>>44665078
To be fair, the writing for Rebels is mostly solid and is becoming better faster than TCW did.

It's just that they have a very low budget compared to TCW so they have to be... very, very, economical with what they have.
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>>44662433
It's not an ISD wrecker, it's somewhere between an ISD and a Victory in firepower but has a lot of hangar space.
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>>44662751
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>>44663596
the fucking turbines reeeeee
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I'm going to be running a D6 campaign soon with four players set roughly after the events of KoTOR. One character is a bounty hunter, one is his engineer from the guild he's a part of, ones a young merc, and the last is a Jedi Barbarian. I have a general idea of what I'd like to do, but I'm not as familiar with the setting as I probably should be in regards to other GM's. Does anyone have any simple or easy sources for things from that era? I can't use Taris due to the events of the game, but I was hoping to start the game off in kind of that same sorta world, seedy, lower level gang war type area where the players can explore while trying to get their first bounty. Suggestions? Links? Advice? I'd appreciate anything guys.
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>>44664484
Vader lost 55% of his flesh.
You know, the part microorganisms live in.
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>>44667325
Some Nar-Shadda slum.
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