Why are orc warriors always so fat? If they come from a civilization with food shortages (think about the last time you heard of orcs farming) and a high-energy lifestyle of battle and plunder you would expect them to be skinny and ottermode, right?
Orcs usually aren't fat. The only orc that is consistently fat that I can think of is the Japanese rape orc and it's rather telling of how you spend your time that you consider them the mainstream orc. Perhaps you have delved into that particular niche for too long. Go outside.
Because some mistake in translation meant a lot of early japanese vidya made Orcs into pigmen and pigs are fat.
Then said vidya got to the younger generations first so many people learned pigmen orc as the ''og'' and revert to that when creating something themselves.
Actually are western orcs EVER fat?
The elderly ones are sometimes
I think the implication was that Orcs just kill each other over food disputes when theres a food shortage. Sorta ''Im starving and you have food. I can kill you and take it and no long starve''
Nice tumblr impression though m80. GG no re
For a second I'd read the OP as "why are Orc women so fat" and I was going to launch into speculation that it was a sign of wealth and prestige in a "look how lazy I can afford to be" way for the women or a "look what I am successful enough to support" way for the men.
To get replies.
In all seriousness, if orcs are stronger than the average humanoid then they have to have an offsetting mental penalty or else you would think they'd be the superior and dominant species. If orcs are weaker than the average humanoid then you have to have an offsetting bonus to population to give them a numbers advantage. I have never seen a setting where orcs are actually smarter than other humanoids (with the exception of savant orc warlords).
I'd be interested if a GM could come up with a creative reason for why orcs aren't the dominant species in a setting where they are stronger than humans, more numerous, and equally intelligent.
still saging so I can do my part to fight the cancer
Honestly, Id rather /d/ cancer than /pol/ cancer. Less flaming.
You didn't ned the /pol/ image for that. I already replied like 3 times, I only asked because Im sick of threads getting shitted up by /pol/
As to your question, in general I set their average ''IQ'' lower and make them highly focused on personal glory. Thus they are powerful but fractitious and they rarely achieve much but destruction. Its cliche but after recreating ww1 with elves I got lazy in my worldbuilding.
Ive literally never been to reddit. I came here because I heard there was an image board dedicated to tabletop games through a friend of mine.
Nice try though
I always think of wild boars; boars and all other wild animals have to deal with food shortages. But they don't always, and some just carry around a lot of fat for when the tough times do come. It also reinforces that Orcs are gluttons; given a chance to feast, they will gorge themselves disgustingly and repeatedly to get to their 'ideal' 50% body fat.
>walking slabs of muscle
>carnivores (I.e. Mostly eat protein), when hunting is scarce, eat goblins and smaller, weaker orcs
>constantly fight each other to stay in shape, physical strength required for survival and only means of obtaining and maintaining political/social power
>mostly wiry and starved looking
>still resort to cannibalism, mostly rely on low cunning and backstabbery for survival and social authority
*actually* cool orcs aren't fat, only lame d&d or generic fantasy ones are because less thought went into their background
You could probably go the steppe nomad route and give them an ecological reason for not developing the same types of technology, or you could isolate them for much of history and deprive them of naturally occurring metals. You could also have them switch to agriculture long after humans. You could also go the Mass Effect route and copy the krogans, who have issues producing offspring. There are tons of ways to justify orc submission, just read a few books and play some videogames. Or study anthropology.
This is all assuming that gods didn't just plop orcs in to fuck shit up.
Fair enough. Still, interesting topic. My initial response >>44647070 applies on a meta level but taking it in game, I daresay its because only those that can fight for the food get to eat a lot so maybe its a status thing?
Like ''If I can fight well enough to get so much food I must be a fierce warrior''?
So one post asking ''why must you use an image that would attract shitheads'' compared with 3 productive responses is ''shitting up the thread''?
Leave it off. We both know this will just keep shitting up the thread if we keep going.
Im here for game ideas and advice man. Unless you're trying to imply pepe should be a diety in my setting then kindly fuck off.
If that is your implication, feel free to make the case.
DnD orcs aren't typically fat. Its more of an issue of LoZ teaching kids Orcs are pigmen
Its 4chan culture from another board though. Racially related stuff, excepting fantasy races, doesnt really have a place on /tg/, unless Ive misunderstood its purpose.
Nope. Im not getting salty and its not my first day here. If you're referring to my ''leave it off'' comment, its just a turn of phrase to say ''we both know this is going nowhere productive and will only worsen the situation both of us are pissed off by.
If we take the ''fat'' orcs as the ones under discussion for a moment, do they garner any combat benefit from such?
Does it add more force to their charges? Help them steady themselves to resist strong charges and attacks? Or is it simply a facet of them that they have to balance against martial skill?
Anyone got any theories?
We're gonna make /tg/ memetic again.
Fuck you OP, you went and made me sad.
Being honest about the world is what the culture of this entire site is about (with a disclaimer attached to trusting even ourselves). If, after the events in Cologne, you still shriek about any criticism of immigrants...you don't belong here, period. Tumblr, reddit, SA, and facebook are all devoted to pretending this shit doesn't happen, why not go there?
Fair point I suppose. Still, having people rant about trump and muslims and mexicans anf shit is annoying.
Im not shrieking about it. Im saying ''this image is politically related. It doesn't have anything to do with /tg/''
Fair point, I meant rather politically related stuff. I mixed up my terms.
Howso? Ever heard of a melting pot? What's the point of leaving your homeland only to make your new home just as shitty as the old one? And if your "culture" includes gangraping little girls, it has no place in the same country as mine.
>Being honest about the world
I wonder how many people actually believe this. It's more about pushing agenda that's not popular or endorsed or is outright ostracized in mainstream, but it's definitely not about honesty. At least as far as /new/s and /pol/itics are concerned. I've seen far too much openly malicious dishonesty to believe in Anon's good intentions when delivering some "genuinely outrageous" news. Picture related.
I can't recall a time or setting where orks are considered fat. I always thought they'd have a solid round core, maybe some gut. But real strong types usually have that barrel with shipyard rope for arms physique.
If it's in a setting where they drink allot of ale, or some equivellent, the carbs tend to go to the belly, thus beer belly. However, that isn't doughy if you excersize, it gets weirdly rock hard.
It literally references Angela Merkel in the image. The image is politically related and the statement its making is obvious.
Agree or disagree with the statement, I dont give a fuck, but its pretty obviously a /pol/ image. If it were un-edited, different story.
Generally, its about being subversive. I mean, /pol/ is properly titled ''Politically Incorrect'' for a reason. Expecting truthful and unbiased discussion somewhere like that is just stupid.
>Im not shrieking about it. Im saying ''this image is politically related. It doesn't have anything to do with /tg/''
It's a picture of orcs, anon. It's just as /tg/ related as it is /pol/, /news/ and /an/ related.
He wants to wall off the border between Mexico and the US because of immigrants and drugs and so on.
And hes convinced he can make Mexico pay for it last I checked.
Look at the image with its ''Angela Merkel invited us'' bull and tell me honestly you dont think that that image is trying to push a certain political viewpoint.
Im not saying its /pol/ exclusive. It is, however, an image more suited to a /pol/ ''how are arabs and orcs alike'' thread than this one.
Only shits like you who never go out of /tg/ think like that. If anything it's gone to shit.
>Inb4 muh rose-tinted glasses
Go to /int/ and see for yourself what the fuck is going on there.
Its switched ideologies anyway. I can still remember it being pretty left wing.
I dont think /tg/ was ever good at staying on topic though.
I gotta agree. Mexico isn't exactly known for tossing around big budgets, I dunno why theyd throw money at something like that.
You realise that in order for it to go to shit, it must have changed, right? Whether thats the slide into bullshit, the swivelling of ideologies or whatever, its a change of some sort.
>I can still remember it being pretty left wing.
It's never been leftwing or rightwing, it's just been rather perceptive when it comes to calling out bullshit, which isn't a trait exclusive to either side of the political spectrum.
4chan seems rightwing at the moment because the left has become a parody of itself.
When I say ''bull' I mean the whole ''you have to be nice to us'' aspect. Shits gone down, I aint denying that. But posing it in that way is pretty much classic propaganda.
I mean shit, the rapes happened. Aint denying that. I aint even gonna deny that some of that shit was possibly shouted. But its current events at best, not /tg/. I mean, in what way does Angela Merkel play into a traditional game bar maybe as some fuckheads Magical Realm?
Yeah, /pol/ killed the spirit of 4chan. It also attracted all the assholes that decided that they were too cool for reddit.
4chan didn't take any serious political stance and was generally libertarian or anarchistic up until the stormfags moved in and forced their memes all over the place. Whenever activism did show up on 4chan it was kicked out because it started shit that most user didn't want to be a part of.
Forcing a political angle on 4chan makes you a political shill and a burden on the community.
Come on now lad, you know thats not what I meant.
''Politically incorrect'' doesn't mean honest or dishonest. I means subversive, its a statement of counter-culture. How often have you known groups based around that to be 100% honest and unbiased?
Personally, Ive never seen it happen. But, to get back on topic, whats your opinion on the ''fat orc'' thing? I reckon its a status thing, demonstrating how wealthy or poweful the orc must be to be so well fed. You?
The Euromedia is literally saying "the natives are the problem, you'll be arrested if you criticize refugees." This is an actual thing that is happening right now you obtuse faggot.
the moment /pol/ started trying to build the 4th reich on 4chan by shitposting on boards most of it went left, especialy /b/. It's funny because there is a fuck load of right wingers there but they will spam bernie just to make /pol/ fuck off so they can go back to their very own shitposting
I know. /pol/ is just the political wave that changed the mood after chanology was kicked out. Chanology was just mostly /b/ vs Scientology that attracted morons that took it seriously.
anon the media says a lot of things, im left and i listen to left media, most of it says that we need to take in the refugess but they have to accept our culture and way of life or it's back to hell for em. Dont belive everything you hear on the interwebz because 70% of it is shoops, now can we get back to fat orks and how wrong and shitty they are?
You answered your own question. They are witless barbarians who come from blighted lands in order to plunder the lands of civilisation. Orcs can't grow enough food on their own, but they quickly grow fat when presented with the abundance of civilisation.
I think hes just bullshitting a lot of the time so I doubt it. But assuming hes serious, he may have read too much of his own press and think he can convince Mexico to do so.
Or maybe hes gonna threaten to nuke em if they dont build it, I dont fucking know.
Thats a nice perspective actually.
Itd also explain why they lose momentum so fast sometimes. They get fat as fuck and start to run out of energy and become less effective fighters.
Literally what Im saying is ''its political ergo it belongs on the political board''
Probably belongs moreso on int or news maybe but I dunno desu. I dont frequent such boards.
Either way, its considered Politically Incorrect. Now, I wonder which board is titled as such...
The guy literally just posted an image. That's it. Some random faggot decided to set his panties on fire because of the image instead of talking about the topic he presented.
The image someone posts has fuck all to do with their post otherwise I'd be doing dissertations on smug anime reaction images.
The fact that you think a goddamn image is derailing shows how absolutely diaspora you are.
I dont think diaspora means what you think it means bruh.
And my reaction is more to do with the like 50 other threads Ive seen start with a good topic but a /pol/ or /d/ image get derailed with /pol/ or /d/ shit. IM also trying to keep conversation on track, my original statement was because some people were already starting to argue bullshit.
>When I say ''bull' I mean the whole ''you have to be nice to us'' aspect.
And this is the danger of crying wolf.
You might be slow on the news, nigger, but that line of "Merkel invited us" is what the victims have LITERALLY reported as having been told by their attackers. One of the arrested perps had a cheatsheet with him for phrases in German, such as "big tits", I want to fuck you", and, oh, "I'll kill you". 18 of the 31 arrested people were "refugees". Only 4 were from Syria.
You're the one being /pol/, here. The image accurately reflects the current event it's poking fun at. And you know what? You wouldn't have such a kneejerk reaction if this poked fun at anything other than your ego-politics.
No one said anything until that "image is cancer" post. Everyone was talking normally about the topic until that point.
There was literally no reason to point out the image. You talk about the topic.
You don't see this cute little nyaruko picture turning threads into a swarm of name calling
Of course it's a nice perspective. It's literally why Maori's are often so fat. They were a warrior culture that subsisted on fish and yams, and then the West rolled around with hamburgers and french fries.
It's also what happened to the Mongols. The Mongols were real life Fremen; dudes that were tough because they were from a tough environment. Mongol warriors were described as sometimes having coats made from the sewed-together skins of field mice. They were poor, they were hardy, and they were good.
But once they gained land and power, what made them good didn't exist anymore. There are many reasons the Mongol "empire" collapsed without leaving anything other than a whole bunch of rape-baby's, but this is definitely up there.
No, I react this way to anything I think risks bringing in /pol/ dudes to derail the thread.
And I aint denying that. But the edit is related more to fucking do with /pol/ or /news/ than it does /tg/.
I wasn't the cancer guy. I came in later once people were already arguing bullshit. You're looking for a different anon
Fair point. So is this why there never seems to be successful Orc Empires? They eventually collapse because they become decadent and lose their capabilities?
It's not all that political. It's an image poking fun at current events. I don't see the thinly veiled Star Trek threads being shouted down as "not /tg/", for instance.
This sort of board policing will make the board poorer overall. This board's motto is basically "you don't even need the other boards anymore", and it's not a complaint. The only reason I can see for taking issue with that image, is because you don't agree with it, politically. In that case, tough shit, start a thread on /pol/ about it.
It doesn't matter, retard. Shit like that became a part of 'generic Internet culture' practically a full blown decade ago. It's the kind of shit you see on Facebook. It makes you seem like either an out of touch old man, or some teen trying to fit on a cool edgy website while posting outdated lingo he saw in his epic 4chan screen caps.
It's literally a joke image tying together real life politics with fantasy politics.
Images like that have been posted on /tg/ since the board's creations.
You modern lefties are pathetic, Christ
thats not true, if you manage to hold out the impresion of talking about integreting something into a system than most /pol/acks and other retards fuck off. That if whan you get a meaningfull converstation. Or you know, in the afternoon on a school day, like 99% of shitposter are not even done with highschool so it's calm
The only people crying about the edit are the people invoking /pol/ in the first place.
I'm ALSO the last guy you're responding to, and the original post about invaders growing fat from civilised lands was a thinly veiled jibe at the overall situation as well. It's also historical fact, and therefore relevant.
And to answer that question, those "empires" usually aren't actual empires, from what I know. Robber "empires" tend to be extremely shortlived. Another example would be the pirates that plagued the late Roman Republic, or the age of piracy we all know and love. Tribal raiders don't translate to empires very well.
As for the image, I think it's a classic example of people kicking up shit. Kind of like how the Islamic world didn't give two shits about the Muhammed cartoons until a radical imam spent two years convincing them that they should. I firmly believe the people complaining and saying it doesn't belong here are at fault. If the situation were the reverse, and people would hijack the discussion to be about politics, THEY would be at fault. But the image itself is an overlap; a /tg/ jokes about current issues. Politically incorrect, but wheredoyouthinkyouare.jpg.
To be entirely honest? I don't mind political topics. I enjoy them, helps me with worldbuilding (though I have gotten banned for it for some fucking reason)
My issue is that this sorta thing tends to attract people who derail to talk about the sorta shit that the image is on about. That doesn't particularly help the thread quality, in my opinion, and its getting to be a big frustration of mine.
Maybe I over-reacted because Ive seen threads get swarmed too many times before, I will concede that much. But all I asked was ''why use a /pol/ edit for this?''? I ain't the cancer guy, I dont give a shit.
Im not even a fucking lefty. And Im not arguing whether its a joke. All I did was ask ''why use a /pol/ edit?'' because Im sick of people seeing shit like that and jumping in to argue about fag this and fag that and arabs are everything wrong with the world.
I probably over-reacted though, Ill concede that. Now can we please try get this thread back on topic.
Fuck sake. Why not post on the fucking topic? Or are you too busy jerking yourself off ''schooling'' me?
No, talking politics with someone is one of the fastest ways to start disliking a person in an escapist community. When you do this with 20 people at once online you are gonna have them disagree with at least half the people and no one is gonna be diplomatic or civil on 4chan. Also, talking politics online is always terrible because verbal communication only makes up like 20% of communication between humans. So you just end up with people projecting their own feelings onto other peoples opinions and everyone acts like an autist.
Take it to /pol/ where it belongs.
Lad, we both know being politically correct doesn't inherently mean being dishonest. Sometimes it does, sure, but not always and not inherently.
Anyway, whats your opinion on the topic? Mongol-anon seems to have a good perspective on it, much better developed than my own was. You?
Fair point. Like Ive said a few times already, I probably over-reacted.
Whats your opinion on the ''short but cunning'' orc variant? I have a tendency to use the 2 types as differing variants, with one being cannonfodder and the other tending towards ambushes and such.
The image is funny. There's no other reason anyone needs. You overreacting, along with the other limp wrists, is what derailed the thread.
People don't need a you-approved reason to post an image.
However, you can give someone the common courtesy of trying to stay on topic.
And as someone said before, pirate and raider empires have success as their biggest weakness. They become soft and fat as they become successful, and then they die. Typically, fat orcs reflect this.
The way orcs usually are in my settings is that they're sort of like apex predators. They're small populations and travel in small groups. They're big and cunning, but the nature of their massive food requirements keep them from forming large populations in any given area.
maybe i worded it wrong, what i ment is you can talk about how a political idea could be implemented into the system while talking about it's plusu and minesus without starting a shit-flinging competition. Like three months ago we there was a rather good thred talking about communism and how it could work in a high tech society, some bloke wanted to change the f-state in shadowrun from anarchism because in his campaing the PC wont a political campaing for the commies
>Like Ive said a few times already, I probably over-reacted.
Sorry bro, I missed that.
Orcs, I think, are at this point such a classic that all variants have been tried. Keeping with the Mongols, I actually really like Mongolian Orcs. A vast steppe civilisation of warriors, trekking over flat ground with massive numbers, pitching up camps that seem (and function like) cities. I think I'll add them to my next campaign, too, with the aim of having the party fight the chieftain in his massive palace on wheels, pulled by a thousands oxen. A thousands oxen who start ramping as the battle starts, with the entire palace gradually falling to pieces around them. I don't know if I can pull it off, but that's what I want.
I like a certain heterogenity among my Fantasy races, so there's room for multiple Orc variants, with a larger Orc "empire" unifying them. Seems fun enough, to have the party run into a few different Orcs, and then give them a unified group of the different variants.
Nice samefag breh, sorry you couldn't read the image right the first time.
>I'm not a..
If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, quacks, and eats breadcrumbs, it is probably a duck.
Thats a pretty solid idea, I like it. Ambitious too. What system?
My orcs tend to draw a bit from wh40k. Like I have an orc ''nation'' in my setting thats basically an old ruined fort on the border of some wood elf lands thats just a stopping off point for orcs who want to fight the wood elves because it was a wood elf God that blinded Gruumsh. I basically based it off Armaggedon in concept and reskinned it.
Do you tend to operate a roughly equal tech level or have it fluctuate, out of curiousity? IM never sure how advanced I should make my orcs...
Different people man.
Not that guy, but wouldn't surprise me. Politicians love power. An American Anon explained that their system is shit, but that the two parties being so in fear of the other taking over totally keeps both in favour of political freedom. In European politics, mainstream left and right both represent the centre.
Better than offline where you can be fired or ostracized for not pretending the refugees are helpless, innocent babies.
It's Shickelgruber, actually, but you probably can't spell that.
Pathfinder. It is definitely ambitious, and nothing more than a plan, at this point. But it hits the sweet spot of what I like about Mongolian Orcs. In practice, it would mean the battlefield breaking up in smaller pieces, with some hazardous terrain to represent the floor breaking up.
I tend to treat Orcs as raiders, that's why the Mongols are such a good example for them. The more powerful they are, the better their stuff. Orcs of this sort of powerlevel would have conquered a lot, and would have craftsmen and wizards working for them. Even if they don't control the magic users with power, they have plenty of plunder to offer as payment.
In context of a campaign, you could ramp it up. The orcs your players are used to are just the shitty tribes, and later the vanguard or the tribes driven before the main force. They could have progressively better gear, until the party learns that the warlord wields a legendary axe, according to some being the source of his power.
And because of their barbarian reputation, this description fits a lot of levels. I usually don't turn them into a civilisation, though. Just like I can't picture Elves working the land, I can't picture Orcs slaving away in a city.
I dunno who you hang out with that you'll get ostracized for that but sorry to hear it bro.
If I may, borrowing the ''Lair Action'' thing from 5e may be a good way to represent shit falling from the ceiling and shit.
And yeah. I guess that means the orcs that go fighting wood elves would probably have some pretty sweet bows and shit...
>Better than offline where you can be fired or ostracized for not pretending the refugees are helpless, innocent babies.
Some of them are. It's basically the same thing as saying that /v/ is one person.
>Better than offline where you can be fired or ostracized for not pretending the refugees are helpless, innocent babies.
There you go again, bringing up something unrelated to this board like it's an excuse for off-topic baiting. Fuck off with your agenda and find a board or forum where you're welcome to discuss it, if you can't do it IRL. /tg/ isn't the place. We're here to talk games, not provide a shitposting outlet for /pol/luters. So regardless of whether the image in the OP was intended that way, it's what the thread will turn into, and in that case result matters more than intention, with the bottom line being "don't fucking inject real life /pol/itics into the OP". Not that I believe anyone who says it wasn't the intention, because this is clearly a thinly veiled shitposting thread for one of the least creative and definitely the most cancerous board on 4chan: /pol/. I see this shit every fucking day.
>know about this shit since monday
>keeps dragging my mood down the whole week
>drink more than usual
>constant news since MSM can't hide it anymore
>say to myself that I will take a break from it and avoid political boards over the weekend for the benefit of my own sanity
>and then OP was a faggot
You probably laughed when you posted it, I can't anymore.
>NONE of the people arrested for sexual assault in Koln were refugees.
18 out of 30 some arrested were.
>Most were legal immigrants, many had in fact been born in Germany or France. Several were white.
>DEM GITS AR A DEGRACE TO DA ORKYS WORD
>LOOKS AT EM! ALL DAY MUCKENS BOUT WITH THEM PUNI HUMI GITS STEAD OF GETTIN' TO DA REAL FIGHTIN'.
>DEY AINT EVEN GREEN LIKE A RIGHT n PROPA ORKS.
>FOGGET DAT PUSSY NONSENSE AND GET BACK TO DA WAAAAGHHHH!!!!
Everytime I see hentai orcs, I can't help but feel there is something fundamentally wrong with them being concerned with sex instead of being asexual. t.
I wouldn't know. But honestly, what can you do about it bar physical assault on someone you think caused it?
Protest? All it would be is one dude shouting unless he can gather enough people. And if he does? Well, then the Anti-Islam crowd barge in, the refugees and the Anti-Anti-Islam guys show up and suddenly theres a riot.
I concur. Im irish and a large portion of my family are ex-IRA. I know what it means, what it takes, all that. But I can't speak for that dude.
A lot of people just want to live a quiet life, ya know? Its especially common in Germany Ive found.
It kind of makes me want to see a Bar Diasters style show with 40k Orks going around to propah-up orcs from other settings and hentais and stuff.
>Walk in on an attempted rape all no no no no YA GIT
>Pulls the woman up, slams a helmet on her, shoves a lasgun in her hand
>Backhands the pig orc, dumps a gallon of green paint on him, hands him a choppa while they point and yell to explain
>Camera shakes at the same second as the room lights up with lasers and the woman starts screaming as she Rambo fires
>Zoom into her crazed dead-eyed face lit by red light
Every time I see hentai orcs, I imagine big-tittied orc girls throwing themselves at my humie Paladin crying about how their men are neglecting them.
Thus the Half-Orc master race swells its numbers.
Holy fucking God I didn't know how much I needed this in my life.
LOOKS LIKE MEAT'S BACK ON DA MENU, BOYZ!
>all half-orc women are built like brick shithouses
>all half-orc men are hung like monsters
It's just a layer of fat over muscle. It's both stored energy as well as amother layer of defense as you have to cut through the fat as well. It makes for showy and bloody fights that turn the ladies on without risking actually causing significant injuries.
An Orc with just muscle is an Orc that ain't getting laid.
Think like Roman Gladiators or men from the 70s. All my Orcs are basically Greeks.
This hit me hard as well, senpai. I also care about you guys. But try to understand that german girls are a bit closer to me and this all happened in one night.
Of course your incident is definitely worse, but try to understand that because I know of this, I also know that it will happen in germany soon. NYE was just a beginning.
Already have a weak bow, but need to find some more time to practice it.
Have this as well.
But overall good advice, just need something more concealed.
Thanks man, next time together.
>Im irish and a large portion of my family are ex-IRA. I know what it means, what it takes, all that.
Take it from someone who's family is still being thrown to the wolves. It's not fun to throw yourself on the enemy's sword without a chance of winning.
Why would an orc want to be with a little pansy when he could be with a (in his opinion) proper woman?
LIke the Mongols. A lot of them preferred mongolian women over conquered women because mongolian women were tougher and hardier and would bear better kids
Well no, they were trying to make it propah by slapping some gear on her to brawl with the fatass orc, but since she took initiative and got all shooty, she gets a passing A+ grade as an example for the show.
She wuz actin' roight propah
You've got to romance an orc woman. Sometimes you just want to fuck but don't have a pile of skulls around, you know? Generally, though, for the optimal sexual experience I recommend capturing a stable of elves quickly and fattening them up for a few months before you unsheathe your emerald sword.
They were fat in reality? Have you ever seen the records of their diets, anon? Dudes at grains like it was going out of style.
They were like WWE with knives. Lots of shallow cuts that looked good but also let your very expensive gladiator keep fighting. They were like racehorse levels of expensive.
I hope and pray that orcs destroy the Eurozone everyday OP.
Anon. They still happen, in bad places. And no you don't, you don't want people murdering each other live on TV no matter how hard you get when you imagine stabbing people with your katana.
Seriously what the fuck is wrong with you? People are suffering because the agenda of Europe's political elite is being forcibly imposed on the people, and those elites live in neighborhoods where they will never see a single burqa except on the rare Muslim doctor, journalist, or other atypical highly-educated professional. They deserve to be fucked up, not us.
I thought it was always meant to be Strongfat, like actual strong people, or just, you know, pigs. Pig = Chunky.
I want big tits elf to end.
>All this butthurt over a joke image, Jesus Christ /tg/
It and similar images should be posted daily until the reddit/tumblr/facebook/whereevernormiescomefrom plague has been scoured from the board. Not having a sense of humor is the absolute first and purest form of complete and utter cancer.
No, Im saying the IRA managed to do a fair bit of damage to the British forces, to the point that certain areas were considered to be owned by them. If a bunch of eletricians with the odd imported gun can pull it off, I think most people should be able to produce similar results.
I come here less and less and less, since it's ended up that the number of people who take all this shit DEADLY serious is starting to vastly drown out the people who have a grip on reality.
I mean, I know 4chan is in its years of tribal reclusion and red scare where everyone and everything is cancer and an outsider and tumblr and reddit and whatever site is popular tomorrow, but it's no longer fun.
>Warboss host/successfull WAAAGH organizer who spends most of the show yelling at people
>Big Mek who is in charge of updating their technology and redesigning their buildings and clothes.
He barely knows what he is doing and just likes seeing things blow up.
>Mad Doc in charge of updating their personal appearance and explaining propa orkish biology. Frequently uses the orcs they are visiting as guinea pigs. Is in charge of explaining why orcs having sex with humis wouldn't work.
>Weird boy as a spiritual leader who explains the nuances of the WAAGH. Is flat out insane and almost entirely incoherent requiring uncharacteristically eloquent subtitles
>Bunch of grots who serve as the camera crew and general chew toy.
Orks and reality TV. There must be more
I dont think we even have any refugees as yet. Our Polish border guards are keeping them out.
In all seriousness though, I doubt theyd want to come here or do well if they did. A lot of what seems to be happening elsewhere would be answered with a shotgun to the knees in a lot of Ireland. And the weathers shite too.
I want orcs and humans to be allies. Orcs are strong, fierce, and their women have big ol' hips that feel nice to grab. Can't we just...sort of...push gnomes out and make them the new monster race? Gnomes never did anything good for anyone and you know it.
I dont give a shit frankly. Ive been to America, they all thought I couldnt be irish since Im not ginger.
Up north, yeah. Down south, they tend to be old lads just passing on wisdom and fucking up the people that need it. At least, thats what Ive mainly seen.
you sound pretty mad, anon, take a chill pill
They seem to be a species more prone to infighting, for one. Every time you hear about an orc army it is at the head of one orc, who had to conquer several tribes before he had any form of numerical advantage on his side. So as smart, maybe, stronger, yes, more numerous, maybe, but far more aggressive about power, and less likely to form too large a group save for rare specimens that are far more powerful than their kin.
There isn't a single group as easily triggered as cancerous shitposters leaking over from /pol/. They may consider themselves thick-skinned or whatever, but they can't shut up about the chip on their shoulder and whenever someone calls them out on their bullshit it's nothing but "y-you're a filthy immigrant working for ISIL". The lack of self-awareness is astounding. Their lack of subtlety is in another league as well.
>have a sense of humor, Anon!
>FUCK OFF BACK TO /pol/!
You're literally worse than the biggest nazi on /pol/, at least they aren't trying to stop us from having fun.
By the way, does anyone have more orc rape images that aren't NSFW? I'm sure there's room to shop German flag colors into a few more of them.
European fantasy (well, at least French) have had lots of pig-orcs too.
>>kill yourself, son
>you sound pretty mad
What, can't you tell it was a joke? Can't handle the bantz? You must be cancer, you should be banned, I can't believe you're a functional human being etc. etc..
Hint: the joke is that it's not a joke just because it's called a joke.
My epic puns are indeed quite PUN! (See what I did there, "pun" sounds a bit like "fun" so I made a pun writing "pun" instead of "fun" when I described my puns).
Soon they'll be called "dads" in half of Europe's neighborhoods, yo.
Why are you so mad, anon? They're just some guys on the internet who disagree with you.
I do seem to remember a time when /tg/ was immune to complaints of degeneracy or SJW's. It's still fairly reasonable in that regard, but I loved this board because racist/sexist/homophobic shitposts would become productive discussions.
So you're from /pol/, then? Because the entire kerfuffle in this thread came from someone being offended by the image, and now in its final generation by you being offended by being told that a sense of humor is important to survive on this website. I'm not seeing any /pol/lacks getting offended or throwing a tantrum here, just you and your people...and this happens every goddamned time. You whine and you whine and you hope that by whining until everyone is sick of it that nobody will dare to discuss issues outside the narrow frame of your narrative. Fuck that and fuck you, I don't care about your problems with /pol/, I don't care if /pol/ personally gassed your granny at Auschwitz, I care about you being a childish crybaby in this thread and having the gall to complain about other people on another board as if some tiny group of people who jerk off to SS uniforms and craft Trump memes was an omnipresent boogeyman. I'm not going to call you a Muslim, I'm not going to tell you to leave to tumblr or reddit, because I'm sure that all jokes aside you're a white nonreligious American liberal who mainly posts here. What I am going to tell you is to grow a pair, because damn you need to either find your balls or just go offline.
Maybe we're just tired of you faggots derailing EVERYTHING to push your agenda? "Oh hey, want to talk about Star Wars?"
>MUH NEGRO STORMTROOPER
Hey, I really think that art for the Montreal Owod Vampire book was silly
>SJW SCUM RUINING MUH HOBBIES
Look, I agree that identity politics can go a little too far. But would it kill you fuckers to just talk about your hobbies on boards that are for just that?
This, this this this this this. If you get offended by seeing the things you see and read on this website, you belong on a different website.
Picture possibly unrelated, I've got like ten of this guy for /m/posting and can't be sure which is the right one.
Harsh words, Anon, harsh words. Thank you for showing mercy and not destroying me utterly by calling me a shitlord or a pissbaby manchild or a cissy or whatever the latest term you people use is.
I dunno if you've noticed but Ireland has a pretty wide variety of people and accents.
But yeah, Ive a weird way of talking alright. Getting off the bus yesterday, driver reckoned I was from Mallow when I grew up in Limerick myself.
Good old Stab City, as they like to call it.
So basically, your complaint is that you don't like seeing complaints about off-topic complaints, given that the latter is all thinly veiled bait like this thread is about and fishing for? I go about it a less roundabout way, and address the thinly veiled cancerous off-topic bait complaints directly. To each his own, I guess.
>not seeing any /pol/acks getting offended or throwing a tantrum here
CTRL-f "reddit", "tumblr" and similar words and you might be able to locate a few of them, if you read real carefully.
Because I protest the presence of /pol/ cancer on this board, which is the sort of protest he was objecting to. It wasn't a very complex chain of replies to follow.
>Dis program containses materialis that my not be suiti...suta...PROPA fa gitses.
>If you's a gits den GET OUT and lets da reals orks watch da picja box ya squeeling runt.
>Also no squigs was harmed in da makin of dis program. But many, many boyz, gits, pointy-earz, et humis were grumped. HAHAHA
That's the way we need to keep it. I, for one, already have a list of ideas obtained from this thread that will 100% make it into the next game I run. That's the nature of this board, the nature of /tg/.
That would require a bull to be in the scenario. I mean, theres a few cows around where she lives but thats the closest to it.
What about you? I get the feeling you're pretty intimate with livestock yourself
Anybody could look up any of it/ What do ya want, my fucking family history?
Lets face facts here, any of us could claim to be anyone from anywhere and none of the rest of us could prove otherwise without a lot of effort that I doubt any of us are willing to go through. Take things on some bit of faith or dont bother, its your call, but its not like someone can prove where theyre fucking from without exosing themselves and their family to all sorts of bullshit.
If I were pretending, I would've stopped. Why would I pretend to be Irish, of all fucking things? Nothing interesting is going on in Ireland for fuck sake, bar the fucking flooding and no one gives 2 shits about that until their house is about to go under.
At least this means Elf remains pure
>Warboss host/successfull WAAAGH organizer who spends most of the show yelling at people
Not Gorkdan Ramsey
I could see German or French maybe but fucking Irish? Why in the fuck would be being Irish be hip? Whens the last time someone saw a bogger and thought ''theres a hip motherfucker now'' for christ sake
Humans don't need to be better than orcs. IRL 80% of humans live on the coast and the coast is to humans what mountains are to derfs and forests are to elves. All that is needed for orcs and oomies to exist in the same world semi comfily is for orcs to massively prefer a different kind of terrain. Swamps, underground, badlands, or whatever.
First you try to enlarge the argument. This protects the shitposter from any technical inaccuracies, because he's describing a group action instead of individual behavior now. It also paints his support as greater and his opponent as more threatening.
Then you get into the buzzwords. Anyone can be accused of pushing an agenda, because it's so open-ended. If my agenda is to talk about Aztec Orcs who have vast numbers and an enlightened culture but habitually raid for women to be sacrificed to the bloodthirsty orc gods and/or bred because a domestic population of half-orcs that can be sacrificed saves orc lives, then I am pushing that agenda by talking about orcs at all because inevitably the subject will come up.
The final step is to push examples that are as nonsensical as possible, to make them confusing to argue against. I'm here more or less every day, and I've never seen a complaint against Finn based on his race. There have been complaints against him being a TOKEN black character, but that's a position a black nerd is more likely to take than a white nerd (and there can't possibly be minorities coming from /pol/, right?) I've also heard complaints about Finn on the basis of the script being changed to make him black, but this is a site full of nerds and nerds complaining about a change to the source material is the most common thing possible.
Your next example, now, that one I just love! Unironically, I do! You picked a really obscure piece of art (I'm guessing the whole bathroom rape thing) from an obscure WoD splat that people were unlikely to know or care about. Personally, I think that piece of art epitomizes WoD's silly edgy phase, and laugh about it, but given the SJW method I'm sure that they struck first and tried to insist that anyone playing oVamp was a misogynist shitlord, in which case SJW scum were literally ruining muh hobbies and deserved a slap.
If people with a strong interest in social justice were, however, to be making a concerted effort at influencing your hobby, and you believed that to be having an adverse effect on your hobby, would it not be completely reasonable to discuss on a board for that hobby?
/pol/ isn't the only source of people that hate SJWs, everyone who comes into contact with them hates them.
In all seriousness, this is sort of what Saruman did and its not completely illogical for there to be weird magocracies that basically breeds up orc armies due to their crazy fast lifespans and ferocity.
I haven't noticed that problem with the stuff I like on /tg/. So the so called SJW menace is utterly irrelevant to me. From my point of view you just seem paranoid and you actively seek out things to bitch about. Just like a SJW.
I just came here to gauge the waters.
I'm so proud of you faggots sticking up to our culture than letting these new wave redditors and tumblr newfag cancer shit up our old ways.
I'm on your side, but the thing is that about half of everyone of Irish descent in America never shuts up about it, and there are an awful lot of Irish in America. We have one in the family, one, and we know because she made my uncle convert to Catholicism to spite my grandfather and enrolled her daughters in riverdancing. I worked with one as a ranger for a few months, and every fucking morning at five AM his phone would start shrieking about "OH YOU BLOODY BLACK AND TANS" and he'd sleep through it because he never followed his supposed rugby workout as far as I could tell. He could never stop being butthurt about the Irish being flat-out conscripted by the Union army during the Civil War, and talked either about MUH IRELAND or MUH CONFEDERACY every day of his misery-inducing employment. Don't get me wrong, there are a lot of fine Americans of Irish descent, but the green blood runs thick and everyone knows at least one insufferably Irish cunt.
>Humans are the shipfolk and sea-goers
Holy shit, this is a better role for us than 99% of what you see in fantasy.
Here's a thought. Orcs are associated with darkness somewhat, right? They also commonly have better night vision than humans. Perhaps it's a trade-off, bright light hurts their eyes but they see well in the darkness, so they'd prefer dim areas. Dense forest can actually be pretty dark, and so are caves and undermountain fortresses, so they would naturally come into repeated conflict with dwarves and elves.
This logically leads to the conclusion that areas with rivers would be the cause of every war.
I know what ya mean. I met some when I went over to America.
But no, Im Irish back literally as far as I can tell. A German uncle by marriage, sure, but thats about it.
I hate the whole ''IRISH THROUGH AND THROUGH'' thing you get in America and that. Like, come on, yer grandfather was Irish. You might be of Irish descent but you're American yerself. Be proud of your families history, sure, but its history for a fucking reason. Not a good place to live, the past.
And Rugby is an English Sport anyway for fuck sake.
You know that /news/ was deleted because the /pol/ attitude appeared and started spreading from there, and that /pol/ was created as a containment board since the deletion of /news/ only further spread the cancer? Nobody has ever wanted this faggotry and it has never been part of main 4chan. "Lol nigger" jokes were rarely racist, just like "lol faggot" jokes were rarely homophobic. /pol/ was made for the sole reason of containing cancer. Its cancer has nothing to do with any "old ways". Joking about rape was in "the old ways", and there are still plenty of rape jokes being made all over 4chan. When we have daily thinly veiled /pol/ threads which always devolve into the same /pol/ cancer however, you start to be on the lookout for such threads. Maybe this thread wasn't even one of them, but it sure as hell looks like one of them, and a /tg/ regular would be aware of how such an OP would be welcomed, without getting all defensive about it, because he would have seen these daily threads and predicted this development. Therefore OP is either a /tg/ regular trolling, or a /pol/ack spreading cancer. Or, I suppose, he could be a newfriend to the board who just didn't know how /pol/ is perceived on this board, in which case his correct course of action would have been to LURK TEH FUCK MOAR LIKE THE NEWFAG HE IS.
Either way he's a faggot.
As you point out, the /pol/ spirit predates /pol/. An utter shitload of /tg/ people were /pol/ before /pol/ was /pol/. This whole attitude that its an alien board infecting /tg/ is ridiculous, as it boils down to "man, all those people who don't have my exact political bias must be foreign intruders contaminating my pure leftist board's purity."
>I haven't noticed any zombies in King's Landing
>Why do we need the Night's Watch anyway?
Not here, because 4chan remains mostly pure, but I'd be hard-pressed to name any other traditional gaming forum that wasn't inundated with it. Anonymity and lighthanded moderation neuters a lot of their usual tactics, viewed from a tactical standpoint.
To throw my 2 cents in, I dont give a shit if you identify as a spriti-fox or think Adolf Hitler was the reincarnation of Jesus here to save the white people.
Just as long as we stay roughly on the topic of the board. Any discussion can be had here, in my opinion, from ''whats the length of a bees dick'' to ''how do you dwarf'' so long as it can be of use in worldbuilding or some such.
On the other hand, current events are rarely of use for such so I feel they should be kept to other boards. Not that you shouldn't make jokes but theres little benefit to making a ''what do you think about the Cologne attacks'' thread, for example.
Holy shit she's fucking actual farm animals!?
Wow, I need a moment, I'm dying over here. This is the saddest shit, I wish I wasn't on my phone so I could screencap this series of your posts and edit them into one image.
Yeah, you're right and I don't have an issue with people telling others to keep it on topic. Its just when people like >>44654613 adopt the sanctimonious /b/tard role that I get pissed.
Deus vult, frater. Deus vult.
>tfw you're living just in time for the real-life Battle of Pelennor Fields.
You want actual evidence, or do you just want to defend your fragile narrative?
We have Pathflounder shoehorning gays and lesbian relationships in their adventure books. You have a caricature republican gay-hater for a villain.
We have infiltrators in WH40k trying to pressure female spess muhreens (None of those idiots know about the Sororitas)
We have tumblrites invoking their own "code of conduct" in gaming conventions to make stupid as fuck rules like 'properly addressing a person by the word they identify as' and other bullshit.
Refute THAT you fucking faggots
Devil's Advocate, as I am /pol/ish -- Shitfinder is remarkably restrained in terms of its alignment section never saying you need to be SJ-ish to be good. A huge, HUGE proportion of the Paizo fanbase are homosexuals, so its not inappropriate for them to have gays in their APs.
>mfw I think about gigantic human fortress-battleships and coastal fastnesses holding out until the dawn against a tide of orcs.
>An utter shitload of /tg/ people were /pol/ before /pol/ was /pol/
Nope, nope, nope, nope. /tg/ has never been political, and even if the posters were, they kept it the fuck out of /tg/, because that's not the topic of this board and never has been. We still joke about rape and we always will. We still dislike real rape and we always will. But can we please leave the topic of contemporary rape on a more fitting board?
>browsing other forums
Well there's your problem. I'm on 4chan for that very reason, because I can't stand most other forums. They're stupid like people are stupid IRL. I don't deny that SJWs are retarded cancerfuckers, but they aren't here. I don't approve of rape, but there's no rape here. I also don't approve of bringing complaints about such topics here, because that just starts these pointless debates about topics which don't concern the board but that concern some of the people browsing it, leading to political derailments which never lead to anything creative or game-related.
Dwarfs - the Mountains
Humans - The Coasts
Elves - The Woods
Halflings - The Valleys
Orcs, Trolls, Hags, etc - The Swamps
Gnomes, Goblins and the Halfbloods - Wherever they're tolerated
Centaurs, Giants and other proud monstrous humanoids - The Plains
There's your problem. There are orcs. Orcs have been repeatedly discussed and brought up throughout the thread, and orcs are possibly the most /tg/ topic imaginable besides the God-Emperor of Mankind. I see why people are arguing that there's an agenda or censorship in play here if we can't even discuss orcs on fucking /tg/ because it has implications on current and controversial political events.
If you truly believe that the immigration-related talk is off-topic? That's fine. Nobody is forcing you to participate in it, and you can do what I've been doing this whole time, which is discussing and coming up with fluff for the orcs in my next game. I've had a lot of fun with it and I heartily recommend it. The instant you become obnoxious, though, and I don't know what other posts you personally have made so I'm using "you" generally, is when you try to tell other people what they aren't allowed to talk about.
When all of that is said and done, though, I think there's one other argument against you. If I wanted to know about the Colonge attacks, I'd care more about what /tg/ thinks than what /pol/ thinks, because I can predict /pol/'s response already and it involves glassing Mecca. If this thread had been posted as "hey /tg/ what do you think about the Colonge attacks" I might agree with you, so don't take this too personally, okay? It wasn't, though, the thread had a /tg/ topic and a /tg/ related image that inspired some people to talk about recent events, that's a normal event here and it probably isn't going to change.
>We have Pathflounder shoehorning gays and lesbian relationships in their adventure books
Some minor flavour text, oh no, games are dead now, panic!
>You have a caricature republican gay-hater for a villain
Yeah, caricature villains are sure new in D&D, never seen that before!
>We have infiltrators in WH40k trying to pressure female spess muhreens (None of those idiots know about the Sororitas)
I've obviously seen threads about it, certainly nothing on the level of "infiltrators". And what does it matter? GW is shit regardless. A female Space Marine sure as hell doesn't compare to killing WHFB.
>We have tumblrites invoking their own "code of conduct" in gaming conventions to make stupid as fuck rules like 'properly addressing a person by the word they identify as' and other bullshit.
Is this some MtG thing or something? Never heard of it, admittedly. Don't really care either, it doesn't seem to have anything to do with the hobby itself.
If you want to rail about their influence in politics and education, where they do have actual influence and shitty such, please do. "Oh shit we may have to call a man 'she' if we play against him in a tournament once, what are we going to dooo?"
Your case is pretty weak, certainly no concerted effort worth mentioning. And we are immune in ways /v/ and /co/ never will be immune: we get to not just play with final products, but we get to reshape it as material to suit our wishes. You can't ever force anything on someone who can homebrew it away with a pen and some scribbles.
Again, unless you play MtG, but you deserve that for eating WotC's shit.
No. I think Elves would serve as animists as a religion, as well as their cultural dogma. "All life is sacred and those that live the longest should be most revered." And what else would that be but a tree? Lives long, stands proudly, but takes their sweet time to grow and spread out.
>nope nope nope nope
>I'm on 4chan for that very reason, because I can't stand most other forums. They're stupid like people are stupid IRL. I don't deny that SJWs are retarded cancerfuckers, but they aren't here.
They aren't here because we have made this place Mordor for them.
I'd take Orcs out of the swamps, personally. I'd also avoid separating out each terrain too precisely, keep it general. "Most humans are near the coast", "most dwarves live in mountain or hill forts", etc.
I understand where yer coming from. I didn't mean any of that as a statement against the thread or how its gone. This is all normal by /tg/ standards, I know that.
Would you not find the new board that was established for discussing current events of more use than /tg/? Im not trying to be confrontational, just curious. I dont know what the feeling is about that board, dont use it myself, but it seems the logical option, doesn't it?
I meant more in the sense that they leave in tree villages defended by ragtag militias (though highly skilled ones if its long lived elves) and traps. I know sweet fuck all about ewok culture.
We have basically an unlimited 'wealth' of /tg/ related monsters that live in caves and the underdark. For rivers I like the idea that they're a free for all and hotly hotly contesed as someone else mentioned.
For ravines I'm not sure.
>Some minor flavour text, oh no, games are dead now, panic!
Not even. They encompass more than half your adventure book.
>Yeah, caricature villains are sure new in D&D, never seen that before!
We don't tolerate caricatures, you braindead idiot. Its lazy and unimaginative and severely biased and prejudiced while also pushing an agenda. "Hurr orcs are all bad, mmkay. Durr he hates fags, he's evil and must be killed."
>And what does it matter? GW is shit regardless. A female Space Marine sure as hell doesn't compare to killing WHFB
>"Oh shit we may have to call a man 'she' if we play against him in a tournament once, what are we going to dooo?"
We a call a man, a "sir, a he, or a dude". We don't need to bend our backs trying to guess if he identifies as 'Xir, Zhe, or whatever stupid shit the special snowflake wants to be called." We don't care about whether he cut his dick or not - we just want to play fucking games.
>we get to not just play with final products, but we get to reshape it as material to suit our wishes. You can't ever force anything on someone who can homebrew it away with a pen and some scribbles.
Gaming conventions force you to stick with the material of an Adventure Book and obey it by RAW, moron.
>typing so much to say so little.
When a medium panders to critics who have no actual interest in that medium, that medium dies. We're watching comics die for that exact reason, and the only reason video games aren't going the same way isn't because of some autists on /v/ but because Japan doesn't give a fuck whether someone is triggered by violent titties or not.
>I don't know, I didn't care, it seems minor.
We've seen where this road ends. You also sound out of the loop. Do you do most of your gaming online?
>And we are immune in ways /v/ and /co/ never will be immune: we get to not just play with final products, but we get to reshape it as material to suit our wishes. You can't ever force anything on someone who can homebrew it away with a pen and some scribbles.
Smug hubris aside, you sound exactly like those fags who claimed DnD 3.5 was perfectly balanced and realistic, and that any flaws could be fixed through homebrew.
>I know sweet fuck all about ewok culture.
Ewoks are tribalistic, cannibalistic, barbarian rangers stuffed in a ball of angry fur.
They EAT the stormtroopers they killed on Endor.
They look 'cute' but it still doesn't change the fact that they're intelligent feral bears that knows how to operate tools.
No, I wouldn't find it more useful, because I'm here to discuss orcs. If current events come up, that's fine, and normal for a conversation, but I'm a fa/tg/uy and don't go out of my way to start political talk.
Thats just eating another sapient. Its gotta be your own kind to be cannibalism.
The ewoks probably reckoned they were just weird animals or something. They didn't seem particularly bright.
>using Paranoid Backstab the setting as an example of why you're not paranoid
>They look 'cute' but it still doesn't change the fact that they're intelligent feral bears that knows how to operate tools.
Kinda unrelated to this thread, but how would you stat Ewoks, Wookies and Gungans as playable races, /tg/? D&D and PF if you please.
So if Pathfinder is now about current events (gay relationships and anti-conservative propaganda), wouldn't finding ways to include current events like the rape of 120 elvish girls by orcish refugees in one's game be completely in the spirit of the hobby?
Careful what precedents you set.
Explain then how they can do anything I can't chose to ignore or remove from a ruleset with little effort? How they can force me to build armies of transgendered buttwarriors? Someone who reads comics can't alter his comics. He can at best buy other comics (and nobody's forcing you to buy Marvels' retarded shit, which was similarly retarded long before SJWs). How am I in any way forced to partake in anything a SJW tries to force into my games?
Not the dude whos comment your vaguely referring to but isn't there a difference between pandering to the people that buy your product and trying to bring real life into escapism?
I mean, from a business perspective its pretty understandable, isn't it?
The latter if ever I feel arsed to run a Star Wars campaign without resorting to the Star Wars books. My players are lazy fucks that hate change.
Fuck it. I'll check anyways. Thanks.
>implying germans are elves.
They're a rigid, hierarchical race who undergoes selective breeding for the sake of getting the best soldiers. They're methodical and highly-structured to the point of being mechanically efficient.
Assuming you don't wanna just use the book stats for them, I would sneak in half ogre stats (+1 LA and a hell of a steal) for wookies, halflings for ewoks (everyone's favorite hirstute anthropophages of both settings, which would make jawas = goblins) and I have no idea what is special about gungans.
The Star Wars d20's tend to give wookies a very modest physical bonus but the rage ability. I would personally give them a modest constitution bonus but a huge strength bonus coupled with rage, if making them from scratch -- assuming lightsabers don't use a str mod. Rationale is in a sci fi game melee isn't very important.
Ewoks are pretty similar mechanically to halflings, complete with throwing bonus. You could have them come from a high grav or high density world and be more like dwarves, which would explain why they needed antigrav bikes and why normal seeming rocks would one shot helmeted troops.
Elves would probably be the race most likely to dominate in terms of hard workingness, as they never sleep and can sink in 100 or so years to master a career.
Incidentally I think elves would probably be reasonably warlike in most settings due to no natural population valve, being the most conservative race imaginable (if elves were real, older ones would have cultural values from the days of feudalism and younger ones would have cultural values from the days of Washington) and they're universally trained to use longbows. In addition, as they typically inhabit forests they'd probably be landlocked most of the time, and landlocked nations start the most shit.
Under that scheme, dwarves would be Russians, alcoholic, mainly gaining revenue from exported wealth, inhabiting a frozen wasteland, and of course, resentful of the smiles and good cheer of foreigners.
>Elves would probably be the race most likely to dominate in terms of hard workingness, as they never sleep and can sink in 100 or so years to master a career.
>Incidentally I think elves would probably be reasonably warlike in most settings due to no natural population valve, being the most conservative race imaginable (if elves were real, older ones would have cultural values from the days of feudalism and younger ones would have cultural values from the days of Washington)
So what you're saying... is that the Elves are Japanese
Because then those Japanese AV actresses making rape noises while having sex makes SO MUCH SENSE.
Elves work for Japanese in many ways. Or Axis factions in general as is popular (witness the Galactic Empire having aesthetics and style, including a grorious empire, of both WW2 Japanese and Germans).
The elves = japanese parallel shows up all over the damn place, with them having katanas fairly often, a nice little island fairly often, and is most pronounced in, say, 40k. It is to the point that I purposefully downplay stuff like that.
Maybe it's because there's Paizo staff that are queer and want to see more representation in their hobby? I love how you're such a pearl-clutching authoritarian that you *feel* creators of content should cater exclusively to you?
How fucking selfish is that?
Ha! I'm as liberal as they come, but I'm not authoritarian left that the mainstream have been angry at.
I can simply see the obvious agenda pushing when all the good characters in the AP are sexually liberated while the bad guys are all the bible thumping right.
I can easily say I don't condone it since it ruins true equality when one side hearkens moral superiority over the other. Its a pendulum shift. Nothing more and when it swings, I'll probably be the one bitching about it all over again.
> because he's describing a group action instead of individual behavior now
I see you people towing the party line every single day. Unthinking pearl-clutching rants about cultural marxism, degeneracy, sjw bogeymen. Go to any thread like this, you'll see this far too often.
Was I being too recondite for you? The anti-sjw pearl-clutching that happens all the damn time? Easily singled out through the exclusive use of buzzwords?
I take it you don't go to /tv/? That was the thread du jour every day before the release of that movie.
And when did I say anything about /pol/? Or that minorities might not be from /pol/? (There are a barrage of "I'm black, but I disagree with #BLM or I despise multiculturalism nearly every day)
Sorry, you've never seen a complaint against Finn based on his race on 4chan? We are using the same website right? Also those examples you just gave were EXCLUSIVELY complaints against his race...
What does "true equality" even mean when one group has historically been slandered, under and misrepresented? You can't simply claim to be leveling the playing field in the name of "true equality" while ignoring the plight of underrepresented people.
You may argue that this sort of equality is contemptuous for both sides, "Equality for all is tyranny for you" or that "undue concern is undue contempt" but under that bravado, there's a group that hasn't been on a fair playing field for years. And it's disingenuous and naive to employ libertarian canards and expect that there aren't groups that exclusively benefit from that rhetoric.
>SJW scum were literally ruining muh hobbies and deserved a slap.
A slap is such a light sentence for what I actually wish upon the SJ plague upon our lands. I want them doxxed, shamed and have all their personal accounts deleted and or sabotaged. THEN they can have something legitimate to be triggered about.
Yes, I'm Pro and I see both sides. Do you happen to think its a left-right race-gender war the media shoves down your throat?
I also don't care about feminism. I'm not an idiot and I can immediately point out the difference between the pro-women suffragists and the misandrist feminists.
There's always conflicts. What I want is an equal theater for those conflicts. There's no good side or bad side unlike what others want you to believe. What matters is not the person but the message he carries. Hence why I despise Social Justice - its obstinately obsessed with labels but not ideas. Its banner is equality but its action speaks apartheid. Its a cancer upon equality by wielding it wildly like a cudgel.
I'm still left by what I stand for. I still support the rights of individuals over corporations. I still value free speech and defense of it. But I will not carry any other political identity tied with the left like SJW or Feminist, because I don't support those.
My problem with your rhetoric is that it oversimplifies very disparate groups of people with very different ideas. Say what you will about third-wave intersectional feminism it isn't as monolithic as you'd like us to believe and there are different modalities employed, yes, even under the banner of intersectional third-wavers.
My problem is that your objections and talking points are de rigueur and proscribed by your demagogues and you act as if it is inherently different when YOU do it as opposed to your enemies. You want to pulverize your ideological opponents into easily identifiable motes of dust with no substance so you can attack them simply and without critical thought.
You use cheap rhetoric that diminishes the conversation and endlessly pathologizes people you disagree with. Your cry for the decency of freedom yet attack other expressions of it.
I have seen the viciousness and the incompetences of the "intersectional feminists" as you called it. They are all cut from the same cloth - why should I bother myself with differentiating one moral authoritarian for another?
No. I am different from my enemies. I don't want to silence them, I don't want to slander them, I don't want them to stop honestly.
They do a good job as is, making an embarrassment out of themselves anyways.
>You use cheap rhetoric that diminishes the conversation and endlessly pathologizes people you disagree with
Pot Calling Kettle Nigger moment here, bud.
>Your cry for the decency of freedom yet attack other expressions of it.
Attacking is different from disagreeing and deconstructing their argument.
Because you'll find a wealth and diversity of ideas and actions on either side and that not everyone is like that, and ultimately we all want the same thing, whether our own methods are ultimately the most expeditious or not.
My best friend is an MRA and Gamergate supporter, our beliefs aren't mutually exclusive, sometimes we argue, but ultimately he is my brother and has shown me things I would have otherwise never seen, and that goes for him as well.
Im not talking about sjws. I mean there are gay people and so forth that play ttrpgs. I know a few.
I mean, I dont like pandering but including representation in your product when you want to sell to groups that crave representation? Thats a pretty sound business strategy
>What does "true equality" even mean when one group has historically been slandered, under and misrepresented? You can't simply claim to be leveling the playing field in the name of "true equality" while ignoring the plight of underrepresented people.
Yes, in fact, I can. Your hurt feelings do not mean that it's your "turn" to dominate society, and the "plight" of past faggots has no impact on how things are for you today. You're as bad as the Christfags with this whole original sin deal you SJWs have going on.
Secondly, how do you justify dismissing two valid arguments against your position with just the word "bravado"? What you are is overrepresented and still whiny about it.