Wizards will surely deliver edition There was no spoiler thread

Nope, sorry.

This is their way of getting back at us for the leaks.

>>44642224
http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/card-image-gallery/oathofthegatewatch

Full spoiler has been up for some time now

The format looks like a blast, I'm shocked with some of the removal in it

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>>44642637
Hello removal

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Look at Kozi and Ula leaving different trails.

Neat.

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>>44642224
Why

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So do people play this in eternal formats or do they just pay an extra mana for Abrupt Decay?

>>44642715
How are you surprised? That's been the whole thing about devoid, they take a spell that already exists and make it cost more than it should by slapping devoid on it.

>>44642715

Shock and Lighting Strike retarded ginger bastard kid.

>>44642727
It might replace nature's claim in nonblack decks

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The non full art version is so fugly, jeezus christ

>>44642727

Green IS the strongest color in magic.

Jesus Christ, they get all the good shit.

Buy your Inquisitions now, lads. Price is only going up. Can still grab playsets for $50 on ebay.

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All purpose removal that avoids dies triggers and reanimation.

The question is, does the mana cost make it unplayable in constructed?

>>44642839
Utter end is just better

Holy shit, this set is shaping up to be half decent.

>>44642839
Its mana cost alone wouldn't make it unplayable, but the mana cost and the fact that it's sorcery speed does.

>>44642637
Oh wow. Not a single white card looks even remotely interesting.

I am the resident "WW in every format ever all the time" guy and if I think white is shit in this set, it has to be seriously bad.

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BR Devoid got some nice tools. I like this one and Pulse of Murasa, they're going to be really good once SOI comes around.

>>44642678
Hello, my old friend.

>>44642876
The 3 mana wall that awakens is neat.

>>44642860
WOW! A RARE MULTICOLOR CARD IS BETTER THEN THE MONOCOLOR COMMON?

>>44642715
to be fair, with burn specifically, and spot removal in general, dodging protection from color is a little relevant. protection's minimized so it's a bit of a cop-out reason, but in modern and older it is a thing.

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>>44642937
>BR Devoid got some nice tools
I like this one especially. Decent power boost for its cost and can let your guy survive combat at the same time.

"B: Remove elf" is always a good card design in my book.

Black pacifism

is it cool as shit, or cool as shit?

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>>44642959
And you cast it on this guy...

While you have a Nettle Drone out...

>>44642951
This will not see play in anything older than Standard.

>>44642727
>do people play this in eternal formats and lose harder to counterbalance or do they play the uncounterable spell that can also hit creatures

Really?

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I think I'm in love.

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>>44642963

>>44642715
>"Wild Slash is too powerful for the meta"

>>44642727
Dredge can't play this because it won't hit Leyline, but it does hit everything else. Pretty interesting

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My little hedron crab is all grown up.

Would it have killed to have the same effect on this guy? maybe mill 4?

>>44643031
It's meant to be a 23rd card in limited.

So, yes.

>>44643009
Definitely some sweet sideboard tech against the Atarka Red "combo", might make them think twice.

>>44643056
So you turn a loss into a tie?

>>44642715
The previous Zendikar block had Goblin Guide, Bushwacker, Shock with Kicker, Searing Blaze and Rebound Shock.

The New and Improved Zendikar block has... Bushwacker 2.0. That's all.
Because new players didn't like to lose to burn players. It's not fun.

>>44642950
>Is it too bad to see constructed play
>Yes, there's already better options
No need to get so upset, MaRo

>>44643005
That art is fucking hideous

>>44643078
>>44643056
Uh, if they swing for lethal I'm pretty sure you die before the lose life trigger goes on the stack.

>>44643081
No player likes to lose to "oops, my 10 cards add up to 21 damage, gg"

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>>44643056
I think you want this instead.

>>44643127
*No player likes to lose

I'm lovin' Oath of the Gatewatch. January 22 can't come soon enough.

Best set since Khans.

>>44643127
Yes. That's why Magic is a better game now, with less archetypes every year, so new players feels happy every time they play their Rhinos.

>>44643174
>less
*fewer

>>44643146
Fuck thats an excellent counter to Atarka Red
Guess that Red aggro is really dead now. Because, you know, reprinting a drown in sorrow and not printing any decent burns or aggro creatures wasn't good enough, and only half of the deck is going to rotate out come March.

>>44643185
Thanks.

>>44643146
>Horned lions
I never knew I liked this concept so much. They just look... So kingly.

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Weez enchantments now n' shiet

>>44643274
WE WUZ BLESSED N SHIET

>>44642876
White has so much removal in this format though. It's all in commons and uncommons and it's 1-4 mana rather than 5 like general limited removal.

>>44643274
All that does is get you 2-for-1'd. What sort of casual runs auras?

>>44643274
>It'd be nice if you didn't put the halo around my eyes, I'm not fucking La Forge you know, I can't see with this thing on.

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Is this a good pick in an aggressive red Limited deck? I've had good fortune with running one or two Lava Axes as my finisher. Plus there are a few Devoid cards which care about casting other Devoid cards.

>>44642709
Rampant growth too strong, plz nerf wizard

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http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/latest-developments/getting-colorless-work-2016-01-08

>"The solution was to figure out the exact kinds of cards that would be good in this Standard, and make some of them colorless cards."

Look, I'm super keen on this set and all but {C} costs are terrible design and there's no escaping it. Like Planar Chaos and New Phyrexia it's a fun quirk but not a healthy thing to do again.

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>>44643274
I guess wasting cardslots on creature enchantments is kind of like wasting money putting chrome rims on a hooptie, so fitting?

>>44643368
>>44642715
Can someone post the last pushed burn card that was able to target a player?

It's like WotC has become fucking allergic to burn spells that can target players. If they include them at all, then they're over-priced like mad.

>>44643368
I think so. If we have to draft our wastes out of packs and they aren't supplied by stores, people will have very few of them, so land destruction will be ok. Plus, even if they are supplied, anyone with them will basically be running tricolour, so you can fuck them up.

>make limited a fun format
>depower limited
One day they'll understand that they can only pick one.

>>44643078
>>44643111
>>44643122
Nevermind disregard that I didn't think that through,

this
>>44643146

on the other hand is quite excellent.

>>44643412
>Can someone post the last pushed burn card that was able to target a player?
Exquisite Firecraft, I think

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HOO LEEE

>>44643274
I just love the art.

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God Cohort is suck a fucking shitty mechanic holy shit.

White looks weak as shit for prerelease, just hope that you don't get rares in it.

>>44643274

>Play blessed negro
>Get 2-for-1'd
>"JUDGE! DQ! #blacklivesmatter #dindunuffin #churcherrydei

>>44643486
it seems like the multicolored whites, and white eldrazi are all leagues better then the pure white cards

Oath looks pretty decent compared to BFZ.

Well, I'll see. I got around 10 events in my area during pre-release week.

Kinda put off by how many eldrazi cards have pay for effects that just don't seem worth it between their cmc and the effect. At least those sit at common and I'm not into limited.

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>>44643486
but anon, for 4+3 mana you get to tap enemy creature and you get 1 life

>>44643473
Mexican eldrazi

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I'm used to do some kintchentable magic with friends but I want to try out some competitive play at FNMs at my LGS and OGW is the perfect moment to join the party I think.

I just made this with the entire OGW spoiled. How does this look for standard ? I'm looking for a deck cheap to build. I was thinking also about BW allies but I like Eldrazis more.

>>44643486
Cohort would be a better mechanic if it didn't make you tap the creature with the cohort ability. That way you'd be able to activate the ability multiple times via tapping otherwise useless allies, token allies and the like.

I like the Ally creature type though. Its a nice concept. I'd like an opposite creature card, something like a Renegade type, Enemy, Defector or Adversary creature type with its own mechanics.

>>44642959
That flavour text should have gone on some 0/1 hexproof indestructible eldrazi

>>44643618
In the current climate, that would cost 2<><>.

>>44642715
>hey a bad card among decent ones
>lets whine over this one
MAGIC IS DEEEEEDDDDDDDDDDDD

Well, I can't say I've seen any exciting card there.

>>44643676
>Decent ones

What?

>>44643589
Rebels was a good tribe, until it died.

>>44643708
>Baiting this hard

>>44643717
There was a Rebels tribe?

What set?

>>44643708
DED I SAY DEEEEEEDDDDDDDD

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everyone saw it coming, but Chandra confirmed for ruining Ob's good time.

>>44643753
Mercadia and Time Spiral.

>>44643514
>>44643589
See what I mean?, You get a couple of those beautieson out on the field, tap them for cohort and bam, you are in VALUETOWN.

So what are the best cards that this set has to offer?

Everything that I've seen seems to be complete shit so far.

>>44643768
And why the fuck is Chandra made to be such a strong Planeswalker when her Planeswalker cards are complete shit?

>>44643565
I don't think you have enough ways to turn on wasteland strangler to make it worth playing.

You can't cast grasp of darkness with only 8 black sources. Consider another removal spell, like spatial contortion.

I'm not sure how good warping wail is in this deck.

You have too many 3 drops.

Play 4 ghostfire blade; it's the best reason to play the deck.

Consider playing hangarback walker.

I think you need another land. I would add a 4th crumbling vestige.

>>44643486
Honestly the powerlevel in this set seems real fucking off.

The commons look like abstract dogshit and the uncommons look miles above them which is stupid because the common/uncommon split isn't supposed to be solely for powerlevel.

Its double bizarre because the removal and tricks all seem undercosted in comparison to the power level of the creatures.

>>44643486
Stoneforge Acolyte is probably the only Cohort worth using.

>>44642839
Didn't they JUST SAY that no color should get "exile target creature" without riders? Fucking WotC, you lying fucks.

>Insular, parasitic designs conservatively costed
>"Worst set ever. Basically homelands!"

>Insular, parasitic designs aggressively costed
>"Bretty gud. Much better set. Glad to see wizards pick up their game."

>>44643886
But anon, it's devoid so it doesn't have a color :^)

>>44643886
But anon, it is no color ;P

>>44643886
No, they said no single colour gets exile target permanent without riders.

>>44643898
>Much better set
We are all comparing to BFZ that was complete bullshit. Also it doesn't change the fact that anus mana is ass.

ITT whiners desperate for anything to whine about

>>44643486
I love this flavor text. Lot of silly flavor text.

And yeah, cohort is a filler mechanic for limited.

>>44643939
MaRo, shut up.

>>44643956
yea, but so is fucking Support
and Surge is a mechanic for two-headed with only a few surge cards being decent.

>>44643823
I see Warping Wail as a counter to board swipers like Languish. It also kills Jace and Hangarback (if cast for 2) at instant speed.

Aside Wasteland Strangler, what 3 drop would you cut to make room for a playset of Ghostfire Blade ? They all seem good in their own way to me.

Thanks for the tips btw.

>>44644016
But a sludge crawler or two.
I like them too, but they just aren't 4-of material. The only reason I had them in my eldrazi decks was because lack of options as BFZ was only half the set.

>>44643971
Guess only Eldrazi get constructed cards this set.

I do like Surge a lot, but I play shit formats, so.

>>44644016

Not the other guy but, Vile Aggregate seems kinda bad. It's only a decent attacker when you're winning.

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Oh jesus. Fucking cheesiest flavor texts in the world in this set. Did they let Maro write these?

I love it.

Was hoping for inquisition of kozi, oh well

>>44644129
>The last set where Kozi will live
>They don't print his Inquisition
I didn't expect that

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>>44644129
Here you go.

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Woah, this is a neat ability. I've never seen anything like this.

>>44644197

I suppose you think snaps and liliana of the veil will be reprinted in SOI?

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I swear, with Zada out, they are trying to make more shit like this. Red normally doesn't get good tricks like this.

>>44643843
>the common/uncommon split isn't supposed to be solely for powerlevel.
yes it is. there's a line of complexity because NWO, but commons and uncommons have powerlevel as the biggest division criteria to balance out limited.

>>44644303
Man, fuck Snapcaster, they better not reprint that shit, that standard was miserable.

>>44644066
>>44644084

so

-2 Wasteland Strangler
-3 Vile Aggregate
-4 Grasp of Darkness
-2 Sludge Crawler

+4 Ghostfire Blade
+4 Spatial Contortion
+1 Crumbling Vestige
+2 Hangarback Walkers

Seems good ?

>>44644278
it's a really cute condition, I hope it gets more show in red's pie down the line.

>>44644314
You mean like Titan's Strength? Losing a scry but adding Trample isn't worth the additional CMC.

>>44644303
Snap and Baby jace in same standard.

Anyone playing anything but u/x

>>44644388
True. I am just excited because I have Zada EDH deck planned. Sure Strike was a lot better, for sure. I dunno, Titan's Strength is certainly a great card.

But yeah, comparing Sure Strike to shit like Slaughter Cry, I'm excited for more of these.

>>44644371
Yeah, same here. Mannichi is one of my favorite cards ever, so it would be nice to find more ways to make his ability relevant.

>>44644366
Run Transgress the Mind. It gets rid of boardwipes/counterspells/planeswalkers and gives you a bit of fodder for wasteland strangler.

That said, I'd also probably get rid of some number of Eldrazi Obligator (since it's a 5 drop in your 21 land deck) and run that 2B 3/2 that drains your opponent for 2 on ETB if you control another colorless creature.

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Craw Wurm replaced my a literal Worm.

I actually like when they draw wurms as worms. Though it is a bit dumb.

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Wait, Kiora is here too. Of course, she left to find shit to fight Eldrazi? Why the fuck didn't she end up doing anything?

>>44644303
I'm hoping they reprint Dualcaster Mage instead. It'd be a cool throwback, it's not a bad card, it wouldn't be as broken as Snappy, and it would finally answer the question of whether stuff from Commander products will ever get reprinted in normal sets.

>>44644572
She found Lorthos and brought it in to fight Ulamog.

Then Kozilek showed up and one-shot it.

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>>44644584
>it would finally answer the question of whether stuff from Commander products will ever get reprinted in normal sets.
What? Shit from commander has already been reprinted in standard sets.

>>44644331
Not necessarily. Uncommons are generally supposed to be the build-arounds for your deck, the cards you don't want guaranteed in every draft, and the cards that are too complicated for Common. None of that really necessitates power level, but I do concede that all of those things make it a lot easier for them to have a higher power level, if you see what I mean.

>>44644646
I meant stuff that was made specifically for Commander; I was under the impression that the only set those were ever reprinted in was Conspiracy, which isn't a Standard set.

I'm not too surprised that I was wrong, sad to say. Which ones were reprinted? This is the first I've heard about it.

>>44644129
>>44644197
This is a block where rampant growth is too good for standard.

>>44644697
ScOoze was like 40 bucks at one point because it was only available in the original Junk commander deck.

>>44644697
scooze idiot

>>44644697
Scavenging Ooze is the first that come to mind that was first in the original Commander set and then reprinted in M14.

I am sure there are 2 or 3 more I am forgetting.

>>44644623
God damn Kiora. You are spunky like Chandra but useless. You are a blue planeswalker, come on, you can do better.

Damn it. I liked Lorthos. He was the freshmaker.

>>44644697
Scavenging Ooze.

>>44644278
this is the first time in a while a card doesn't reference it's name when referencing itself

>>44644762
Huh. Guess that answers that question.

I got a little less stupid today. Thank you!

>>44644790
It isn't referencing itself. I was confused too. Reread it. Yeah, a bit confusing? This is a new effect.

>>44644790
What? I don't think you read the card properly.

>>44644821
Dualcaster Mage would be a great reprint though, but in actual sets, red doesn't get flash. The reasoning is that with Haste, red doesn't need flash.

But honestly, they fucked the color pie so bad this set, I could see it.

>>44643514
If only it also drained for 1 it would be decent.

>>44644882
Red does get spell-copying though, and flash is the only way to staple a body to that effect.

>>44644833
>>44644836
fuck I can't read

>>44643486
This is what I don't get, on their page explaining about cohort, they say that the good thing about cohort, is that the ally that you need to tap can be any ally that you just casted. This led me think that the cohort allies would be low costed, so that next turn, when you cast another one, you can tap both. But almost all cohort are overcosted as fuck and one of the only guys that interacts with it costs fucking 3 that enters before most cohorts.

>>44643717
It was ok in timespiral when it wasn't viable in the slightest.
It would be a really cool tribe if most of the good rebels had large downsides so you wouldn't just gather an army and auto-win, but as it was it was pretty boring.

>>44644978
Mercenaries, now that was a tribe.

>>44644278
Dear god, that's so awesome.

It also doesn't look anything like either Ulamog or Kozilek's broods. Gentlemen, I think we are before Emrakul's spawn.

I think think this is a clear clue as to what kind of abilities Emrakul's brood will have.

>>44642981
Look at its little arms, its so cute.

>>44645079
Dude, I am pretty sure Gravity Negator is an Emrakul brood. And if its theme is ferrofluid, it can look cool as fuck.

>>44643514
This might be the whitest black card I've ever seen.

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>>44645125
gravity negator seems to have Kozileks floating shards though

>>44644697
Hornet Queen started in the Ghave deck as well

>>44644956
Cohort is a repeatable mechanic, on cheap stuff, it would be dangerous in limited. Repeatable effects like this are often underestimatedin limited.

In particular, during stalled board states, cohort will be very good.

>>44642815
Splinter Twin.

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>>44645125
>>44645167
Yeah, there's no way that that's Emrakul's brood. Just look at pic related and the similarities with the Immobilizer. That's what the brood is gonna look like, and its nothing like what we've seen before.

>>44645360
Looks like Emrakul schtick is it's brood doesn't resemble humanoids like the other two.

>>44645245
Blinding Drone is a 2 mana that can do the same thing, but even better in a stalled board, since it doesn't tap another creature, and in a stalled board situation, 1 mana is nothing. And at 3 mana, there is Essence Depleter, that drains 1 life for 2 mana.

Cohort is just shit, and will be shit even in limited. Ondu War Cleric is the only cohort that you can draft without fear of it being useless.

>>44645395
emrakul's hallmarks are the weird baleen lattice thing, lumpy bodies and knobbly tentacle arm things, contrasting the sleek tentacles of the other two

>>44645360
arent those eyes on the immoblizer though?


which is kozilek thing

>>44642715

Kills those pesky "Protection from red, gain life" creatures

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>>44645395
Yeah, you've got it.

Hope you are ready for going full microorganism/insectoid eldritch-ness.

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>>44643185

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>>44643820
It's called "informed competence".

>>44643867
You mean this piece of shit? You may actually be right, which is sad.

>>44645472
also got the weird radial symmetry. definitely kozi

>>44643820
inconsistency is a red thing.

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>>44643193
>>44643185

Less is 100% correct.

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>>44645463
>>44645506
Yeah you've got it.

>>44645539
If you get a lot of equipments, he is pretty ok, and Ondu War Cleric is almost not complete shit. With this, Allies are confirmed dead.

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I like the art of these two. They look much better than most clusterfuck eldrazi.

>>44645539

>equipment tutor
>suffers from summoning sickness
>requires going tribal for Allies
>potentially requires several turns to dig for the equipment you want

B..b..but it only costs 1 mana r..r...right g...g..guys?

Steelshaper's Gift

>>44642817
One could say it's devoid of any beauty.

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>>44643768
Why is Gideon standing? Just kill his ass off already and give us a likable White PW or bring back Ajani when he mad

If elf hitler is alive too or saved from her fate I'm going to be moderately irritated, Ob getting revenge was one of the best things to happen lore wise in a looooooooooooong time

>>44645539
I lied, Drana's Chosen gets you a 2/2, which seems decent in Limited. Unless I missed something when I skimmed the full set, that makes two.

But still, two Allies to dig 4 deep for an Equipment and no way to cast it more eaconomically? Fuck off, Wizards. Would it have killed you to have it reveal until you hit an Equipment?

>>44645800
The Origins Five are effectively immortal. It'd be likely DC permanently killing off Batman or Superman.

The only casualty is Kiora, the planeswalker that doesn't matter.

>>44645873
Wait she fuckin died?

>>44643274

The halo around the eyes was supposed to be a punishment for the angels. A blinding light that constantly stung their eyes and obstructed their view to symbolize how blind they had been to the true nature of the Eldrazi. But I guess it's a not a big hindrance to have a dazzling ring of light right over your eyes, in fact I guess it makes you physically stronger and able to see more for some reason. Of course, it only makes sense that it's given out by one of the two only angels in the history of Zendikar that never had a halo over the eyes.
Why the fuck do I even care about lore anymore?? WotC sure doesn't.

>>44645873
and even then, she fell in the water, I'd give her 50/50 odds of coming out humbled but alive.

>>44645910
>defeated in the water
>never stated that she died
100% sure she is still alive.

>>44645894
Mindfucked by Cozy.

>>44644572
Then she lost Thassa's bident too

>>44645907
Wait, now that you said it. No new Iona? Fuck. She is the coolest angel.

This whole set is shit again

They could have gotten me with a simple IoK reprint - but even that... no

Just

>>44644278
Does it even attack the people it wants dead? Or does it just waddle around and it's very presence causes death?

>>44646175

Isn't she catatonic or something?

>>44646422
that never stopped her of doing her job.

>>44646389
its eyes on its legs paralyzes its victims
and then it waits for the other eldrazi that have big black tentacles
it likes to watch

>>44644900

Actually it's not, you can go the route of howl of the horde, sorcery speed effect that copies the next spell you cast

>>44646389
presumably the whole "eldrazi corrupt what they touch" thing is how it murders people.

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Am I the only one who thinks this card looks amazing.

You get a 0/6 and a 3/3 for 3 mana, yeah you have to use a land but you're still up a creature.

And land creatures have more upsides than downsides in this set anyway.

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>>44646570
One more card for this dude to take advantage of.
I like it.

>>44646570
Heck, flicker it with the flicker eldrazi to pump your lands for 3.

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Good job with shafting RW again wizards.
One common equipment: Bone Saw, two uncommons, two rares.
Of course, one of the uncommons is strider harness which had to be bumped up because surely at common it would destroy the balance of limited. It was simply too good.

>>44643368
More like consuming butt hole.
>>44645800
Hopefully they retcon any cis white male in all of standard, 2015 +1 and we're finally getting somewhere!

So how disappointed are you in this block, /tg/?

>>44647078
I'm pretty excited and can't wait for pre-release

>>44647078
I miss Annihilator.

>>44647078
Not as disappoint as I was for RTR.

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>>44647078
Pretty disappointed. I am excited for a bunch of cards from this set but yeah, bfz really fucks up the card pool to choose from.

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What cool stuff

Cohort creatures now also trigger their own Cohort ability when they're tapped for another one's.

Are they better now?

E.g. Tape Cohort Creature A for Cohort Creature B's effect and get both effects to trigger in unison.

>>44647212

Why? Return to ravnica was a good set, dragons maze sucked but not as bad as BFZ

>>44647308
Or just have more allies who give you a bonus when they tap.
Or make it so cohort doesn't need other allies to tap.

>>44647365
I'd still keep some sort of "tap another ally" mechanic with it, considering it's supposed to represent a cohort of allies achieving shit together.

Which makes it even dumber that only one of them is actually doing anything and the other just helps them to get something done that a lot of other creatures can do without even tapping.

>>44647308
That would've actually been interesting and even maybe not utter shit.

>>44647248
I love this equipment, and I am confused as to why it wasnt released with BFZ

>>44647078

Very, although most of it is based on fluff. The eldrazi are one of the coolest things in Magic yet most of their art for this block is terrible for some reason the story of really should have been how they wiped out the last of the resistance and killed off a major planeswalker or two rather than this "motley band of superheroes unites to defeat lovecraftian horrors through the power of diversity and friendship" garbage we're getting now. I don't even mind the whole superteam plot but why did it have to come at the expense of the one truly mysterious threat left in the setting? They really missed the chance to save that for a block with Bolas cast as a supervillain, have some good cheesey fun with it.

Also the cards are mediocre but that isn't surprising, WotC thinks that new players want a simpler and weaker environment for some reason so everything they put out is inevitably going to skew towards that. If you're disappointed by that reality then you're probably a bit stupid, there has been no indication that anything else was going to happen.

>>44647347
>dragons maze sucked but not as bad as BFZ
nostalgia goggles are one hell of a drug.

>>44647700

BFZ has zero redeeming qualities whereas dragons maze had voice of resurgence, notion thief, and progenitor mimic

I like those cards

>>44645945
She needs some tentacle rape

>>44647308

That would have been awesome but they don't really have any clean way to word that since they insist that ability words cannot have any rules text relevance, so there's no such thing as a "cohort" ability. So something like >>44645539 would probably read "Cohort - T, Tap an untapped Ally you control: Look at the top four cards of your library. You may reveal an Equipment card from among them and put it into your hand. Put the rest on the bottom of your library in any order. You may activate this ability without paying its cost whenever CARDNAME is tapped to pay the cost of an activated ability of another Ally you control" which MSE says is nine lines even without the flavor text. Or since they're adding a sixth basic they could also make the much less significant change of finally letting those words before the hyphen mean something.

>>44647308
maybe make the cohort abilities worth it.

You have to invest so much for cohort, but most of the effects are useless outside of limited, and even in limited I have a hard time justifying them.

It blows my mind that 4 mana cost rare is a 2/2 creatures that requires you tap it and another ally, to spawn a TAPPED 2/2

>>44647898
They could just word Cohort similar to Extort or Manifest with "To Cohort, tap this creature and another Ally you control. This ability may be triggered without paying its cost if this creature is tapped to pay a Cohort ability."

Then just make it read "Cohort - [Ability text] (Reminder text)", the latter could even be left out if the room runs out.

>>44645945
;_;7

>>44643009
>AAAARRRRGGGGHHHH WAAAATCH MEEEE FLEEEEEEEEEEXXXXXXX

>>44647248

This is actually really good, like I would actually play this in an Allies list in Modern.

>>44645910
Really? 'kay, nevermind, she's alive.

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>>44645360
>Though her brood's members
>her brood's members
>her brood's
>her

>>44648068

That's even longer.

>>44648649
They slapped on the pronouns of the Gods they were once thought to be. Emeria was female.

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GOTTA PAY THE TROLL TOLL

>>44648695
Reminder text could be left out when there is absolutely no room for it.

>>44642819
Blue would like a word with you in private.

>>44647262
>Not enough room with all the other cool stuff packed into it.
>all the other cool stuff
>in Oath

Why is Mark such a lying shill?

>>44642981
This is surely part of Emrakuls brood.

>>44643462
>>44643146
by itself it ends up just fogging if they've done the battle rage.

>>44647248

this is huh

WOW

>>44642709
that's gonna look nice in foil.

>>44648728
Is there an equipment that does something whenever it's equipped?

I'm sure there's a way to abuse the fuck out of this.

>>44648728
TROLL PATROL
TROLL PATROL

>>44648728
Now the hunt for good equipment with really expensive equip costs begins.

>>44648846
It wouldn't work unless you had two of them.

>>44648895
Argentum Armour's pretty decent, I don't think there's anything in standard worth equipping in the first place though.

Does Herald of Kozilek reduced mana cost of colorless by generic or can it also be <>

This set seems a lot stronger powerlevel then BFZ.

>no new processors

Holy shit wizards, i know this set is mostly about kozi, but would it have killed you to make some decent ones for oath?

Blue got shafted hard in this set, I don't think there's a single playable card outside of tribal eldrazi.

>>44647898
Why not
>T, Tap an untapped Ally creature you control: [CARD] and that creature coordinate.
>When [CARD] coordinates, [ABILITY].

So for example Stoneforge Acolyte would be
>T, Tap an untapped Ally creature you control: Stoneforge Acolyte and that creature coordinate.
>When Stoneforge Acolyte coordinates, look at the top four cards of your library. You may reveal an Equipment card blah blah blah...

Then if you tap two Stoneforge Acolytes together, you get to search the top four cards for an Equipment twice because they both coordinated.

WHAT SHOULD I TAKE TO MY FNM TONIGHT?

MONO RED GOLBINS

MONO BLACK DISCARD

GREEN BLACK GRAVEYARD

>>44648846
nothing I can think of but you can chuck sunforger more than usual.

>>44648970
>Oh shit we blew our load on good expedition cards
>Guess we better print actually good cards to sell packs.
Its double annoying because you can't criticize it in any way elsewhere without a bunch of retards going full damage control and screaming how its not wizards fault that wotc decided to make 2 set blocks

>>44643820
It has to do with the SJW feminist cancer infecting the offices of WotC.

Chandra is a strong independent qomyn who don't need no man. Also why you don't see strong male characters in most newer sets.

>>44649020
Pretty shitty due to how narrow the ability would be.

If you really wanted to make it workable
>Cohort: Tap an untapped ally you control to do X. You can only activate this once per turn and only at sorcery speed.

Not templated correctly but you get the point, it would enable Cohort creatures to work together while also retaining the ally synergy.

Is it me or does 2 block set seem really anti-climactic?

>oh no eldrazi
>jk we got em

Also a fuck ton of mechanics got shafted. Only one set of ingest and process? Then only one set of ass mana cards?

>>44649020
Good. But then we can actually have a meaningful ability in expeditions set, and we dont want it.

>>44649020
You don't know how to play, please stop.

>>44649140
Something something new world order something new players market research highest point in all of history something something standard limited : )

>>44649140
Uncharted realms and the other supplemental stuff sort of helps with this

>>44648846
Kazuul's Toll Collector + Thornbite Staff + Heartseeker = One-sided board wipe

And Sunforger basically reads "RW: Cast a red or white instant card with converted mana cost 4 or less from your library."

>>44649140
Hopefully Emrakul kills Jace in the next one. It is a near impossibility, but I'm tired of that fuccboi.

>>44648960
It will probably be generic because it refers to a cost. It would have to be errata'd to make it reduce C instead and that would be awkward because then it wouldn't work in it's own set as triple BFZ wouldn't have any C costs to reduce.

>>44649140
so you just choose to willfully ignore the habit of introducing a mechanic in the second set and then forgetting it for the third set, or all of the only third set mechanics that have existed? this isn't due to the two set paradigm it's just slightly easier to notice.

>>44649069

Please, red Planeswalkers should be the strongest when it comes to a direct fight, Chandra can't plan 5 minutes ahead or lead a horse to a river but she can shoot walls of fire out of her hands at one dude really really well.

>>44649205
Leave Jace alone, WOTC already fucked him out of his personality and his anime clothes.

The only bad thing about Cohort is the ally restriction.

>>44642988
Very niche card in burn to kill Kor Firewalker, it'll see a little play.

>>44649069
>Also why you don't see strong male characters in most newer sets.
I know you're baiting but jace is a fucking genius who knows better than everyone because reasons, and gideon got a whole plane to fall in line with him basically because of his rippling biceps and winning smile.

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>>44649323
I mean, who wouldn't follow a face like this?

>Hol up

>>44649024
MONO BLACK DISCARD DUMMY

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>>44649354
They really fucked up his face, jesus christ.

>>44649354
I said smile, I'm not gonna try justifying that neanderthal brow.

>>44649354
Where did that monkey get a whip?

>>44649426
I dont know what to happened with art in MtG. Somekind of temporal disaster just sucked all good drawn cards back in time.

>>44645539
If this put the equipment onto the battlefield we'd be talking. But tapping two creatures just to maybe draw a card? Jesus that's bad.

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>>44649485
it's called nostalgia

People only remember the good art from the past and then moan about the shit art in the present. Although I do admit the variety of art has decreased significantly

>>44649024
G O B L I N S

>>44648738

It could be but this is WotC we're talking about, they're still putting devoid reminder text on rares.

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Completely off topic but I dug up my old playmat and was wondering what the art was from. Anybody recognize it?

>>44649531
Well, that one is hilarious, at least. There isn't really funny art anymore, unless you count those two punch cards from Tarkir.

>>44642715
will be in modern burn sideboards again white decks, also targets player which is neat.

>>44649531
They use less Terese and RKF art.

Ergo, it's objectively worse.

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>>44649594

That would be a Shadowmoor Mountain

>>44649469
Isn't it coming from his bracers?

Why is he even holding a fist, theres nothing in his hand?

>>44649628
>RKF
>Good

That asshole stamps his fucking initials on everything he does in big blotchy font and doesn't let Wizards edit it out. Completely detracts from whatever skill he has.

>>44649594
>>44649640
That mountain looks amazing.

>>44643486
>>44643867

The one creature that can Cohort for a +1/+1 counter on each of you creatures is... passable. But honestly it really is a depressing ability. The Cohort creature should just be able to tap an Ally for the ability, not tap itself as well.

But Captain's Claws, Stonework Masterwork, Bone Saw, Weapons Trainer and the Stone Haven Outfitter should breathe some decent life into my RWG Ally deck. I spotted a few other sideboard worthy cards as well. Even that said, I think I'll be building a RU Spellslinger, some of that looks fun as fuck.

>>44642959
Sorry for being bad at magic, but wouldn't aggro benefit more from just some one-drop, or removal for ants? Seems like it would do about the same, except your dudes no longer can kill siege rhino. I imagine killing rhinos isn't what the card would be used for in the first place.

Enlighten me.

>>44649745
>The one creature that can Cohort for a +1/+1 counter on each of you creatures is... passable. But honestly it really is a depressing ability.
Just did a first sealed online, that thing was really wrecking me.

>>44649801
..okay? Just like any other repeatable ability on creature that stuck on board when you don't have removal?

>>44643820

Because Wizards put the most narrow focus in what red can do its mechanics on the whole are usually clunky or not cost efficient compared to the other colors.

>>44649745
Nah, there's that black one that draws you a card for Cohort. That one will be a high pick for draft.

>>44649776
It's mostly for limited, I don't think this will be squaring off with Rhino.

>>44649608
MaRo sure dose. Whenever someone mentions that Magic art doesn't have the humor it used to, he mentions the bear punching card as proof Magic still has a sense of humor.

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>>44649844

Pretty much. My Ally deck can out-aggro just about any other Aggro deck... as long as removal isn't a huge factor. Then the deck feels like watching an eight year old try to do a little segment from a popular song on a guitar.

>Note note... missed note
>"Hang on"
>Note note... missed note.
>"Hang on"

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>>44642715
http://magiccards.info/ia/en/370.html
Good job, WotC.
Making a red damage colorless now that you decide to phase off protection.

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>>44643899
>>44643908
>>44643936
The lawyer's promise. :P

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>>44649676
So does most of the art in shadowmoor, but pretty much all of the mountains were top notch. It worked as a really good contrast to Lorwyn art which had all the weird faces and proportions and Rebecca Guay

>>44647898
if they wanted to do that they could have just made it a keyword or w/e it's called, it's not that they can't do that, they just don't want to for whatever reason

>>44649531
Nowadays, half the cards are CG, artists are too lazy to even draw faces, they just take some photos from image banks and cg the shit out of it.
It is ok to use an image for referece, but not as base image.

>>44649227
Not to mention the card spell out that Ob Nixilis prepared for the others, but did not expect Chandra to be there.
So he planned his shit, kick the ass of three planeswalkers and THEN Chandra come out of nowhere and force him to flee because he was surprised and probably out of juice.

If anything, it's Ob Nixilis power that should be questioned.

>>44650087
Fun fact, Ghostly Flames doesn't actually let red or black cards target creatures with protection from red or black.

>>44650160

Elesh Norn, is that you?

>>44650160
Jason Chan is one of my favorite artists in all mtg. For some reason, after liking a card, I end up discovering that it is his art.

>>44650223
no, but it does let earthquake or pestilence hit them.

>>44650087
>read the rulings
Wow, seriously? wtf wizards. This is the most conditional shit I have ever seen.

>>44643005
This has to be the ugliest shit in OGW. Seriously? that CG in the background looks like it slipped on a banana peel.

>>44649652
To keep his fingers away from the blades, presumably. There are some angles he could attack with that would slice his hand to ribbons if he didn't have it in a fist.

Admittedly he *is* indestructible so it probably wouldn't hurt him, but it would still mess up his accuracy for those sorts of attacks.

>>44643368
Goatse edit when?

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>>44650237
Elesh Norn a shit

>>44645699

Seed Guardian looks like one of those cards that's gonna get big next block if SOI cares about that stuff as much as the original block did.

>>44642715

I like how the picture is basically everyone's reaction to reading the card.

>>44650214

I agree, Ob Nixilis must become more powerful.

>>44643473

This is all I wanted, something to replace Ultimate Price which will be 100% irrelevant after this set drops, this kills Anafenza too as an added boon.

Thanks Wizards.

>>44650160

Lirwyn art has its own charm

Rebecca guay is possibly my favorite magic artist

Other one is John Avon

>>44650160

Shadowmoor was fucking fantastic. In some ways I'm kinda glad WotC isn't inclined to return there right now, I feel like it'd be hard to get the feel of things right again.

But please, for the love of god, let me still love Innistrad this time next year.

So where's my nigga Emrakul?

>>44649224
>so you just choose to willfully ignore the habit of introducing a mechanic in the second set and then forgetting it for the third set, or all of the only third set mechanics that have existed? this isn't due to the two set paradigm it's just slightly easier to notice.

Or perhaps the way they did the old 3-block set was complete shit? Seriously, they fucked it up really terribly with Theros, and it was the most notable. Tarkir was bad but at least somewhat justified

>>44642715

>implying it won't be sided against affinity

>>44650304

Rules quirks like these are one of my favorite things about magic

Because I have assburgers

>>44650237
Shit, I can't unsee this now.

So, let's say they had reprinted IoK. What would standard look like?

>>44645079
> pointy Hedron bits
> eyeballs everywhere
> Ermacool

It's definitely from Kozilek's brood, mate.

>>44650729
Did you love Innistrad for the power level? Or the standard? You'll probably hate it.

I'm excited. The trailer seems to make it seem pretty spoopy like the original two sets, so as long as it has cool hats and scary monsters, I'll like it.

reflector mage's face looks too much like that cooking show nigger people post here as a meme

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Can you regen from deathtouch damage?

>>44650785

I dunno if Tarkir would have worked as a two-set block, but certainly if we'd just gotten right to Journey into Nyx I'd have liked Theros more.

I'd also have liked Theros more if it had made more of an effort to be a fucking enchantment block instead of a monsters vs heroes block with an aura subtheme. No "casting enchantments matters" mechanic until the final block, REALLY?

>>44650864

I liked the WORLD of Innistrad, including the rare journey from darkness into light with AVR that I'm afraid they're going to fuck up to raise the stakes again after Zendikar's Deus Ex Machina.

I liked pretty much all of Innistrad's mechanics, its tribal themes, its general aesthetic...I'm not a huge hammer horror guy but that was very nearly the perfect block for me if it wasn't for the endless snapcaster+delver dicksucking that spawned from it.

>>44650919

Yes

>>44650910
Ainsley Harriott. That's his name.

>>44650160
I way prefer Lorwyn art over Shadowmoor. Everything in shadowmoor is grimey and filthy. I get that's the point, but fuck that.

>>44650919
regen "the next time this permanent would be destroyed this turn it isnt, instead tap it, remove all damage, and remove it from combat"

yes

>>44650930
I actually thought the idea of tying enchantments to Nyx was pretty clever, if a bit lazy.

And I was actually kind of impressed by how the creatures in the second block that mimicked global enchantments felt like enchantments.

I get that auras are not the most popular enchantments, but I can really see why they went with it as global enchantments can be hard to keep track of when there's lots of them.

I don't think they can fuck up the aesthetic of Innistrad. Though I don't feel they fucked up Zendikar's aesthetic either, to be honest.

>>44650729

This is why I am secretly glad that Lormoor is on the DO NOT RETURN list, especially after the fluff atrocity that is new Zendikar, never mind the shitty art. Can you imagine going to Lorwyn and getting a bunch of shitty CGI Flamekin and Faeries?

>>44651036

I liked the notion of enchantment creatures being critters that acted like global enchantments, but I felt like there was a lot of emphasis on little dudes with combat tricks or big meaty monsters with their +1/+1 counters and not a lot of emphasis on weaving the power of Nyx with enchantments and enchantment creatures.

The starfield effect was fuckin' cool, though.

>>44650785
>Seriously, they fucked it up really terribly with Theros, and it was the most notable.
How quickly we forget about Avacyn restored.

It's the poster child for bastard 3rd sets

>>44651042
>deformed photo faces as Kithkins
Oh god, no.

>>44651152
>Fifth Dawn
>Saviors of Kamigawa
>Dragon's Maze

And that's just in Modern
At least Avacyn Restored has several constructed playable cards

Also don't forget third set all stars like Future Sight, Rise of the Eldrazi, and New Phyrexia

>>44651042
>>44651153
I know man. I mean look at this CGI artist doing his so called 'art'. How dare he call himself artist!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zdKceNf8Oo

>>44649140
oh yeah it's a huge change from
>oh man Yawgmoth has been planning this invasion for eons
>let's just shoot him with moon lasers

>Some dick has stolen a spirit baby and now the spirit world is killing us
>let's give it back and solve everything

>Oh no what will happen to Mirrodin now that's it's been infected
>shit's fucked, the end

>Boy I wonder what will happen to Tarkir with all this timey wimey nonsense
>dragons kill everyone, the end

>Really want to see what's become of the Mirran Resistance and Urabrask
>Don't want to see how badly WotC will fuck up the block
It was my first block so I got rather into the lore and stuff for Scars and I loved everything about the setting and the cards themselves. I really want to go back but at the same time I'm terrified of what they'll do to it.

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>>44650214
Let's also Not forget that Jace, Gideon, and Nissa are all pretty Haggard at this point. They've been fighting for awhile, probably haven't had much sleep, and were effectively routed, and then got ambushed by a rested demon Walker who just absorbed a shit load of energy. He wins and gets a little beat up in the process, then along comes a fully rested Chandra, who just watched her friends get shit stomped. As for her power level, it's up there, and this has been established in the fluff many times despite having less than optimal cards.

Like pic related says, she knows how to use force. In a straight up fight, Chandra is probably the most powerful of the 4 super best friends, but that's her job. She isn't there to make plans or solve mysteries. She's there to blow shit up.

So she shows up and does just that. Ob Nix probably tries to get her to leave and she falcon punches his shit with Fire Fist Logic.

>>44651487
Jace looks like he's ripping a massive fart gas elemental

>>44651275
I don't really know what are you trying to imply. Rob Alexander cycle of plains in DvsD is one of my favorites.

>>44651527
Didn't you know? Every mtg art is CGI nowadays.

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>>44651487
Chandra~ let's name a redhead caucasian after an Indian name. Bet she likes curry and the tropics. Haha

>>44651512
>Summoning Fart Elemental
>Vs Pyromancer
Kek what a scrub.

>>44651555
There is a difference between making a decent CG and doing pic related.
Clint Cearley does have some nice art like bone to ash, but some of them are just shit.

>>44649531
Even the bad art from the past was fine because it gave the sense of playing a pulpy fantasy game. The recent art is trying way too hard to be zomgbadass.

>>44651933
flash or static isn't even the really bad art, that goes for the completely generic 90's D&D leather ranger dudes and the like

just a complete void of creativity and taste

>>44651933
I guess it is also because mtg used to be a bunch of old guys doing wizardry shit because fuck it, who is gonna stop me? And now it is about Jace the superman, and his justice league.

>>44651299
>oh man Yawgmoth has been planning this invasion for eons
>create an army of super soldiers
>set up a magic school to figure out time travel
>build magic flying plane-shifting ship
>eugenics time!
>4,000 years of planning
>gotta get all these planeswalkers to help out
>and build them all power armor
>...then drain one of their souls to power these bombs
>twenty different magical artifacts working in conjunction to creature a powerful annihilation beam

And even then, they only just barely won.

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>>44651636
Chandra's dad is very clearly a white dude, but her mom is very much Indian looking.

>>44651487
Fucking christ, those text and text bubbles look atrocious.

>>44651299
You're being purposefully dense if you think you can really condense Urza's fight against Phyrexia into two fucking meme arrow lines.

>>44643971
Support is a filler mechanic for limited because Development axed the cool part about it at the last minute (being able to put loyalty counters on planeswalkers as well)

>>44652167
Panel design too

>Rectangle tool; 2px border; white
>yeah that'll do

>>44651636
Let me guess, you have a blog where you complain about cultural appropriation.

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>>44652167
Yea, the art on that comic wasn't that great.

The art is much better here, but the text bubbles are eh. Plus, we get to see Chandra punch Anowon.

>>44652153
There's some Indians that are around Kiran's shade and even hairstyle.

>>44652412
Panel 2 looks like a Poser character put through a filter.

But the shift in style in the last 2 panels make it clear the artist was googling pictures of people and tracing over those instead.

I don't even draw, but someone tell me I'm wrong

>>44650919
How are Devoid cards listed on checklist?

>>44650919
Am I the only one that sees a dick with arms in this?

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>>44652511
It's entirely possible.

Local Man has come a long way before he ruined everything. Rereading this now, it's clear he's talking about the Mardu.

I actually liked Journey to the Eye

>>44652372
No, just googled "Chandra" one day and got Indians instead of a red walker.

>>44652412
>punch Anowon
That's a kick.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCuSiLnG-Wg