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>Infinity is a 28mm skirmish game by Corvus Belli where Tohaa splice Krogan and Battlecat DNA to create the greatest CC synchronized pet of all time.

>All the rules are for free. Buying the books is only relevant for fluff:
http://www.infinitythegame.com/archive.php

>Provisional Catalog where you can look at pretty pictures of the miniatures you're thinking of getting:
http://www.infinitythegame.com/catalogue/

>Rules wiki:
http://wiki.infinitythegame.com/en/Main_Page

>Official Army Builder:
http://www.infinitythegame.com/army

>Token Generator:
http://inf-dice.ghostlords.com/markers/

>N3 Hacker Helper:
http://www.captainspud.com/n3hacking/

>Batreps:
http://www.youtube.com/#/playlist?list=PLzrPO7KIAtwXlOUh545nq21WQaW7YxuGc

>Terrain:
http://pastebin.com/Hy9SRkmJ

>Faction Rundown:
http://www.mediafire.com/view/mqaaf5fosmti5b4/Infinity_Faction_Rundown_v.1.3.rtf

>All Consolidated Rules:
https://mega.co.nz/#!DhhlRLqJ!6T_kh36C9oLG8kCAJq1e5e_Eu9GO0pU8_hexY2zCcp0

>Latest news is the Economically Questionable RPG Kickstarter
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/modiphius/corvus-bellis-infinity-roleplaying-game

>The Actual Faction Poll
http://strawpoll.me/5146634

>Scans (More Needed):
http://www.mediafire.com/download/a6nel34mw0la3bb/Infinity+1st+edition+Rulebook.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/wd3pbtpjp5w9dig/Infinity+-+Corvus+Belli+S.L.L.+-+Human+Sphere.pdf

>Last Thread
>>44527846

New polls:
>Which was the best release of 2015 for PanOceania, Yu Jing, Haqqislam, and Nomads?
http://strawpoll.me/6216905/
>Which was the best release of 2015 for Ariadna, Combined Army, ALEPH, Tohaa, and the couple of Mercenaries?
http://strawpoll.me/6216931/
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>>44604867
I should be getting my nomad support box soon, and I shall convert the new daktari as a catgirl.

I'm also getting the uberfalk box.

>i accidentaly all the furry
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>>44604985
What do you play mostly, Vanilla or Bak?
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>>44604985
>converting girl to catgirl
>"accidentally" furry

I have news to you, son...
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>>44605040
Daily reminder, that out of the six Intruder sculpts to the date, none has bee female.
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>>44605040
I got the op icecream box, sold the pan oc to a friend.
I have riot grrls box + spitfire girl
geckos box, and jaguars box
and hellcats blister (HMG and hacker)
vortex spec ops.

pretty limited.
But, soon I should have :
support box, uberfalk, REMs box (the ones that can be EVO repeaters)
and I just bought:
spektr hacker, corregidor base set box
and the new avicenna (will i ever use my daktari??)

If i could have my own way i would have gone full tunguska, but obviously that isn't happening anytime soon.
I prefer the craziness of bakunin, but corregidor is a solid workhorse.
I don't like the sin eaters though, really, I think they lack character. each to their own ofc.
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>>44605132
>and the new avicenna (will i ever use my daktari??)
Well, if you want to use your shiny Corregidor units and have a doctor, then maybe. She's the cheapest doc around and she's not terrible.

Yesterday I had my Dak heal up a few guys and kill a pesky Fusilier in ARO. Not bad for a little brown catgirl.
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>>44605074
It still kills me that they went with a male HMG Intruder. That's all I wanted was a lady hefting her HMG downrage or even actively reloading it.

>>44605132
Very good. Sounds like you have quite a bit. Tunguska should be a lot of fun, but it's still a huge way out unfortunately. Hell, we don't even know if Kriza Boracs will actually be a thing.
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>>44605132
Pretty good selection. Remember you need a hacker or TAGs to run remotes. Either the Interventor or Custodier are worthwhile pickups down the road, both because the toolbox of the Hacking Device Plus and the fact they are great LT choices in Nomads limited selection. If you are on a budget, you can still nab the old twin tails Interventor blister. Also anything with Koalas is a boat load of fun.

I agree about the HMG sineater. The MK12 and MSR ones are pretty sweet though.
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>>44606229
I'm using the reverend healer as a proxy for a custodier atm.
I will pick up and actual custodier one day, and interventors too.

So what I'd like to do is build a nice little bakunin list, in order to field a full riot grrl link team, because they are just wow.
Not sure how to go about it though.

REMs would be nice, I could use them as total reacs, or sniffers to flush out hidden enemies.
That would require a Custodier.
Then add dak, engineer, palbots, uberfalk
Then I'd have to proxy my spektrs as zeroes for now.
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>>44606300
That looks like it could work. I'd go combi blitzen over multi for the GRRLS. Blitzens can shut down a lot.

Not a lot of long range, but between the zero V smoke and white noise, you can find yourself dominating the midline fast. Obvious LT, but that is kind of a Nomad thing turned up to an eleven in Bakunin.

Remember a 4 man fire team gets a +3 to discover and the MSV1 knocks off the 3 of the penalty imposed by ODD/CH. Also the Chimera and her pups each get discover rolls. Sensors remain the best way to reveal those things, but the fire team, Zeros, and Ubers have tools to deal with camo.
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>>44606830
>I'd go combi blitzen over multi for the GRRLS
I'd definitely go for a mix. Maybe even as far as all of them. Zeros open crates in Lifeblood, MR Grrrl busts it open. Shottie has lovely luxury of going B3 AP rounds or Flash Bangs. B5 Sptifire is hard to pass up. B2 ARO from a Blitzen is ded skary from an MSV1 HI with buddies.

Each profile brings something to that link.

>Nomad obvious Lt. options.
It's almost painful sometimes. Unless in Vanilla and you don't mind using up an Intruder as one in addition to the higher cost. That's the one thing I have issue with when making a Nomads list. Picking the right Lt.
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>>44607473
I usually go 2 combi/blitzen, 2 shotguns and the spitfire for the grrls.
I have never bothered with multirifle yet, because so far we aren't seeing any TAGs or much multiwound, so combis and shotguns is plenty firepower.

I face jap sectorial a lot, and they are a pain in the butt with their hidden deployment, eveyone has courage, theres a guy with chain of command so they never lose leader, and my opponent pretty much always fields 3 bikers (one is yojimbo)

His favourite tactic is appear from hidden deploy, but still in TO camo ofc, he moves with 1st short order, so all can do is discover.
then with his second short order he moves into contact with one of my models.
next order he chops the model in contact in half (martials arts lvl9000 and monofilament bullshit)
I cannot wait to shove his martial arts up his ass with the chimera.
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>>44607999
Keep in mind you can delay ARO versus camo. If you choose delay, you can react with BS, CC, dodge, etc, IF they do something to reveal themselves, such as move into base to base with another model, attack, lay a deployable, or anything besides a short movement skill. If you delay ARO and they just use a short movement skill as their second skill, you get nothing.
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>>44608409
Question about a situation we've had last game:
TO Camo marker moves into LoF of a distant Grenzer and closeby Tomcat. Tomcat declares Discover, Grenzer Delay ARO. Marker moves as second skill and is discovered by the Tomcat. Does the Grenzer get to declare BS Attack ARO?
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>44608550
No, since all actions are simultaneous, what you're suggesting is the the Grenzer shoots at the same time as the Tomcat is discovering, which makes no sense
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>>44608764
So it doesn't really make sense to discover with one model and delay ARO with another, unless the guy reveals himself and then gets shot?

Delay ARO kind of implies that the action is performed later.
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>>44608857
>>44608764
Okay, I've reread the example of just that in the wiki and it seems that Grenzer's shot was lost the moment the TO Camo marker declared second move.
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>>44604867
Let's make a new poll based on the questions for best release of 2015 for all the others.

Based on the responses, these are the best releases per army.
http://strawpoll.me/6468394
What is the best overall release?
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Can I shoot at an enemy model with a marker (meaning the LGL that shoots deployable repeaters)? If I hit does the repeater get placed, if so where? The reason I'm asking is because if I had some enemy figure in the targeted state I could spec fire the marker with the +mods.
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>>44608857
It makes perfect sense, consider the other two options:
Both models delay, the TO model uses move as second option, gains ground for no loss.
Both models discover, the TO model shoots unopposed, most likely pasts one or more models.
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>>44609067
You got it.

>>44607999
Could just delay ARO and then drop a hit him with a template. He won't be able to dodge since he is using the second part of the order to get in Melee, if he does then he had to use the whole order to not take damage, which gives you a small respite. Could always do Alert! too.
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Another crazy paintjob posted by "glazed over" over at the infinity forum.

http://infinitytheforums.com/forum/topic/36233-glazed-over-infinity/?page=2
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>>44609319
sic!
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Nikolai Tesla recreation when?

It'd be pretty dope, yo. Guy never had any children.
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>>44607999
>His favourite tactic is appear from hidden deploy, but still in TO camo ofc, he moves with 1st short order, so all can do is discover.
then with his second short order he moves into contact with one of my models.
next order he chops the model in contact in half (martials arts lvl9000 and monofilament bullshit)

Delay, he can't CC after using 2 orders to get into b2b, so you get a free hit in CC with him, which doesn't have the modifiers from TO camo. He sounds like a scrub if that's how he runs his ninja
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>>44609394
I think we'll see Rasputin first, with Valor Level 5000
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>>44609319
speaking of paint jobs, I need ideas for a Yu Jing HI color scheme. Orange is nice, but something else would be better. I've been toying around with a dark, rusty red to compliment the exposed steel-colored wires, but I'm not sold on it.

Anyone have pretty paint schemes?
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>>44609654
How about greys and urban camo themes?
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>>44609654
Yellow and Teal?
Red and Teal?
Magenta and Yellow?
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>>44609654
I paint mine Dark red, dark grey clothing, and some orange brown detail/highlights for mine.
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>>44609654
I always thought purple was a snazzy underused color in infinity.
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>>44609939
video related.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFFzjkRmbjg
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>>44609704
Perhaps. I was leaning towards less obviously camouflaged themes since I find it fits better with a more futuristic look that is less concerned with visual camo because of tech, but grays could work. I might try some type of type 07 digital camo.

>>44609885
Maybe something near red and teal. I've been painting up the coats on the Hsien/Crane/Pheasant in a near-Prussian blue with Gold highlights
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>>44609977
Go blue, for Impersonator:Pan-O
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>>44609939
Well, Aleph has a quite lot of it mixed in its studio scheme.

Very nice models.
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>>44609977
I've been toying with an idea of gray Yu Jing with orange/yellow stripes. Could work well with the new power armor design.
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>>44609319
Her face looks almost too happy. Like a creepy doll.
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>>44609319
If only Joan was re-released as a standalone blister. I'd purchase her in a heartbeat and I don't even play PanO
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>>44607473
I guess it's fitting that the anti authoritarians have LT issues, but damn it really is annoying that there are no SWC free LT under 19 points and all Nomad LT have stock weapons. It's almost comical how I can look at another Nomad force and go for a decapitation.

I guess that's what makes starting vanilla Yujing/JSA so refreshing. So many options. No cheap workhorse specialists though.

Still love my space punks.
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>>44609319
Man non metal metal is awesome.
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>>44609112
I'm pretty sure the answer is no, since markers have the (targetless) trait, although I can't find the marker rules.
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>>44611452
My problem with Yu Jing is the same old Lt. options. Thankfully the Zhanshi become SWC free, but it used to be Celestial Guard or Shang Ji. You never really wanted any other Lt. Maybe Sun Tze.
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>>44615889
Zuyong HMG automedikit is best LT
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>>44616397
That forces me to take a Hac Tao XO or a Pheasant, neither of which are cheap. I'm pretty aggressive with HMGs even if they are on Lts.
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>>44616397

Dao Fei Spitfire Lt is also pretty good all things considered. Even better with a SpecOps with CoC around.
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>>44609956
what's he saying?
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>>44618657
open it in YT. It has English subtitles options.
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>>44615286
I think that the original HS descriptions "cannot be fired directly at enemy" (or something along thise lines) is still valid.
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I hope I can play as a Kerail in the RPG
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I hope I can play as a Kerail in the RPG
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>>44619254
This human gets it.
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>>44619389
????
No seriously I'll name the beasts Mr Snuggles and Sir Scratchalot
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>>44619571
>Not Murda & Peashooter
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>>44619755
what the hell did I just watch?
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>>44619963
Bakunin
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>>44619963
no idea but I'm going to go out on a limb and guess it's French
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>>44619963
Bakunin on a tuesday
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So I'm new to Infinity and I like the look of the models in the Yu-Jing Imperial Service Sectorial starter. Are they any good?
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>>44620466
Playable. If you want to start to play IS there are worse ways to start. It's just that outside of Celestial Guard, the models are pretty situational. Especially Pheasant.
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>>44620466
IS itself is hardmode according to some players but every unit in that starter will see use, although the pheasant will see a gradual phase out.

Source: I used to play IS exclusively, and ended up buying and trading every unit in the starter individually once I learned how to play properly. I wish I had just bought the starter.
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>>44620546
>>44620521
Cool, thanks for the insight. Any models I should add after the starter? I've been reading that Yu-Jing is more of a melee army? Does that mean I should double down on Melee or try to supplement some more shooting into the army to balance it out?
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>>44620573
Don't double down on melee, YJ is the heavy infantry army take heavy infantry
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>>44620665
Cool, I like heavy infantry.
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I'm thinking of starting infinity and going with nomads. Is this a bad idea? I've heard they're a tad complicated.
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>>44620573
Celestial Guard Box and Kuang Shi box. Kuang Shi are your reward for playing hard mode, but they require a certain celestial guard profile to use. If you want you can just proxy one of the starter celestial guard as the controller and get the kuang shi next, but you will want the other celestial guard pretty quickly. Aside from allowing kuang shi, the controller has smoke that the hsien in the starter can see through but most enemies can't, making a brutal combo.
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>>44620684
They relies more of tricks than, say, PanO, but aren't really that complicated. Try to share Icestorm, if you go vanilla, or starter of the seectorial you plan to start.
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>>44620722
Thanks! Is there anywhere online that has a good breakdown of all the units?
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>>44620786
http://www.infinitythegame.com/army/
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>>44620722
So I'm picking up the IS starter box, Celestial Guard box and the Kuang Shi box. Need about $10 for free shipping. Any single models worth throwing in?
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>>44620857
Thanks but I meant in terms of tactics and usefulness.
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>>44620684

Nomads are not bad to start off.

Each of your units will likely be a bit odd but they don't require a heap of skills that other armies don't to play. I wouldn't really call any army other than maybe PanO (And even then, varies a lot by your exact army makeup) really that much easier than the others to start off.

They interact more than most with Hacking but every army has it's odd areas and hacking isn't that complex. Most hacking programs are very similar to weapons, after all.
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>>44620876
This is for general Yu Jing, but you found most IS units there. Keep in mind that you have access to some bounty hunters and ALEPH units for extra synergies.
http://infinitytheforums.com/forum/topic/298-a-treatise-on-warfare-yù-jīng-n3/
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>>44620918
>http://infinitytheforums.com/forum/topic/298-a-treatise-on-warfare-yù-jīng-n3/
Thanks!
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>>44620864
There are many.
-Hsien HMG
-Ninja hacker
-Sopothect (if you can find it, the blister is OOP and it's available in ALEPH support pack, though you may want the latter instead for yudbots)
If you want to be a little silly, you could even buy Lucien Sforza
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>>44620864
I proxied a sophotect using a deva for the longest time because it was cheaper in the short term. She is quite important to tournament play, but as others have said, bundled with some aleph stuff you won't have use for but should hopefully have little trouble selling (Pure Steel Phalanx players need netrods but not Sophotects).

If you are after a single blister that is both fun and of high value to tournament play, I nominate the ninja hacker.

Don't feel obligated to get your whole army in one hit, infinity is very try before you buy friendly, and if you have models from other wargames, you can use them to start right away and see what works for you.
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>>44620987
Yeah, I'm going to proxy the IS starter this weekend to see if I like the game first. I just wanted to get an order figured out in case I do.
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>>44620864

Get the Gui Feng / SpecOps dude, since he can be used as a legal proxy for most human-sized models.

Also, you might want to consider the Yao Xie (big bots) over the Celestial Guard Box if possible, since you are not likely to use ALL the CGs, while the bots have their own use.
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Does the Anniversary edition of Achilles have a release date yet?
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>>44620876
They're scattered all over various forums. It'd be nice to get them all in one place (say, 1d4chan; I know), but so far you have to look.
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>>44621726

The official forums are probably still the best place, though much of the stuff for Yu Jing is probably still being worked on.
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>>44620684

No more than usual. They've got a fantastic bag of tricks, but they aren't short on direct violence either. Good hackers, and nice TAG and Remote selections. Great for newbies, because it's easy to dabble in a lot of areas.

>>44620876
There's various tacticas about on the forums, but Infinity tends to be pretty organic in terms of what works and what does. What works for Nomads works for everyone, effectively. There's particular combos that are popular, but nothing's really set in stone at all.

Infinity's pretty special in that almost everything has a viable use, and the factions are internally and externally very well balanced.

If you're looking for places to expand from the starter set, then Moran, Zeros, and Spektre (Adaptive, Economic, and Invisible infiltrator types), Drones (any sort, good for lots of things), Intruders (EXCELLENT generalist ass-kickers), Custodier or Interventors (great combat and regular hackers respective), Morlocks(berserkers), Clockmakers and Daktari (engineers/doctors), Hellcats and Tomcats (fighty AD, and adaptive AD) are all very flexible, constantly seen figures that'll go easily into any army.
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>>44620763
>>44620903
>>44622847

Alrighty, I guess I'm going with nomads then.
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>>44620521
Um, you get the Wu Ming with BS which is the FO profile. That's a solid specialist even more when thrown in a fire team. Hsien is pretty good as well.

The only real turd in the apple pie is the Pheasant just due to cost, but the starter is actually one of the better ones out there.

172pts isn't that bad. Add in a Quack Sheep box or Celestial Guard box and he can take it to another level for cheap.

I'd take the IS starter over the Vanilla one...
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>>44623493
>I'd take the IS starter over the Vanilla one...
Well, that is definitely true. The old starter was one of the first resculpts and its age shows.
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>>44623493
Yeah, Wu ming are a solid choice in link and Hsien is a effective. Pheasant is pretty much only choice if you desperately want CoC in a non-SpecOps enviroment or Bao-link.
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Was there ever a scan of the Angel Giraldez Masterclass book?
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>>44626189
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I need a little help with colors. I am going to go with an invert scheme for my neoterra army but need identify the colors to get the paints ready. I am going to use citadel paints since the closest shop to me is a gw store and i like their paints to be honest.

>>44626189
seriously, give the man some money. Carlos already has him enslaved, just let him get something from the vending machine.
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>>44626326

I can see how asking for a scan may seem like I'm not going to actually buy the book. I'm just curious what the content is like. I usually buy the book if I like what I see.

I'll ask you guys then, is the instruction in the book any good?
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>>44626387
their pretty good. they give you the insight on how he paints in two separte styles to bring out the details of the models. he has some great instructions and even shows you a step by step way to paint the joan of arc that comes with the book to his level of painting. worth it really.
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>>44626735
Spaniards are sleeping, post Combined Army!
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>>44628289
>when
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>>44628319
Suddenly, Guija.
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>>44628448
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If a remote has a repeater, can that repeater be used by a hacker who'd normally be out of range to affect said remote?
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>>44629791
Yeah.
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>>44629791
>If a remote has a repeater, can that repeater be used by a hacker who'd normally be out of range to affect said remote?

If you mean that a Nomad Hacker can use a Supportware on a friendly Nomad REMote with the "Repeater" skill the answer is yes.

If you mean that a Nomad Hacker can use the "Repeater" skill of an enemy REMote for using any program on it like "Gotcha!" without being on Zone of Control the answer is: NO, it cannot.
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>>44629891
The former.
>>44629841
Thanks, both of you.
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Rules Question here:

Those Symbiobeasts... do they provide a Regular Order to the order pool? do they occupy a spot in the army list?
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>>44630088
no on both counts
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>>44619963
Mind Game, by Masaaki Yuasa
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>>44628319
>photo of a computer screen
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My LGS is starting a slow grow league soon and I want to go with Haqqislam. Beyond the starter box what should I get.
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How viable are the combined faction? My friends have chosen every other faction so I'm pretty much left with this one. What's the general strategy/unit design? Tanks, glass cannon, horde, specialist, etc?
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>>44631948
It's a photo of a projected image, pal.
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>>44632061
They have the best tech.
>No seriously
They have the best tech.

Things like Skiavoros (Lt. that has Strategos and if it dies can transfer the Lt. ability in addition to it's WIP to another unit in your force that has a Cube or G:Autotool), Umbra Legates (Sith aliens that are excellent at CC and have great stats and equipment), and then there's the races that make up the Combined Army.

Murder Apes
>You mean Red Orks?
Nah, these guys have a Shogunistic Clan society where each regiment embraces war and honor as a part of life. Only the strongest and most powerful survive.

Things like the the Rodoks, Sogarats, Kurgats, and even the humble Vanguard are solid. They all ignore LoL and Isolation due to the Veteran L1 rule and they have Religious, which means if you want to dive into cover from heavy fire they have to take Religious checks (just a WIP roll). They are the sledgehammer of the CA.

Super Survivor PredLizards
>Shas-
>Shasva
>Fuck it.

Yeah, these guys are all about survival and disruption. They have access to TO:Camo on a fair amount of units and normal Camo on others. Very squisy, but can be very deceptive in the amount of damage they can cause. Nothing is scarier than a TO:Camo ML with V:Dogged appearing to ARO your prized shooter.

Sygmaa, the other other Tohaa
>Red Tohaa?
Mhm. They have the normal Tohaa biotech pushed further by the abilities of the EI. In short, some Tohaa decided it was better to leave the Triumvirate after being conquered. Life has never been better.

Which takes use full circle back to the EI aspects. I mentioned the Skiavoros, but there are two combat platforms that can be Lt. that are also damned dirty.

They really have some of the sickest options for tech and weaponry in the game. It comes at a premium though. The costs associated with being the best isn't cheap.

Things like the Rodok, Kurgat, Daturazi, Shrouded, Noctifer, Ikadron, and Unidron are pretty well costed for what they are.
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>>44633185
>ohaa decided it was better to leave the Triumvirate after being conquered. Life has never been better.
You they are absolutely furious because they or their ancestors were told that is they didn't they would be zombified when nothing really changed and in fact technology improved in certain areas.
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>>44633185
I wanted to get the Morat aggresion starter pack, is that a good start?
Also, what's the deal with this faction having from the looks of it, very different species/units? Are you restricted by which type you choose in the faction?
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>>44633585
I'll let a more experienced anon answer the starter pack question.

About the diversity of species, that's all in the fluff. I understand your question in a way that you're primarily interested the game aspect of this, so I won't delve much deeper into the fluff than just to say that the Combined Army is a huge, nigh-unstoppable force of several assimilated species that were brought together by a determined, alien AI (the EI). Under its command, they work together.

Gamewise. The Combined Army works pretty similar in its restrictions of units as other factions. I'm not sure how much you already know about the game, so I just cover the basics, just to be sure.

You have access to all species if you play the normal vanilla Combined Army faction. There's also two sectorials (as other factions have), which are optional lists of availability for units inside the faction, following certain themes.

Those two sectorials are for one The Morat Agression Force which focuses on the Apes. You can field much more of them than you would be able to if you'd go Vanilla, plus you can form link-teams because you play a sectorial (one of the main advantages. Every factions sectorial shares this feature). You'll have much less or no access to a lot of the other units which are not-Morat.

The second sectorial is the Shasvasti something something Eggforce. Impregnation Infiltration. The Eggening. I don't know, I forgot. Basically the same as the Morat sectorial, just with Shasvasti. Very different playstyle. Probably better to be avoided, I hear it's pretty weak right now and about to be reworked, with a rehaul of the models in the future. One is better off fielding Shasvastii in a Vanilla list.

It's just because of the fluff and nature of the CA that the sectorials are so obvious, optically speaking. Ariadna, which consists of a number different nationalities (as do other human factions) has scottish, french and american sectorials for example.
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>>44633481
They had the choice of convert or die. Most noticed that after they had been claimed by the EI not much had changed despite what their leaders had told them. Most go to war against the Tohaa because they felt betrayed. Is that what you meant?

>>44633585
It's not a bad start by any means. The Raktorak can be proxied as a Kurgat. The Sogarat is solid. I used the Oznat as a Zerat, and the Vanguard do their thing.

It depends on what interests you for the Combined Army. I recommend the new Vanilla Starter, the new REMs, and an Ikadron blister if you are on a budget and like what the new "identity" of the force has to offer. That pack has more of the EI and Sygmaa in it.

The MAF pack is solid for starting Morats or boosting your vanilla army if you want to go that route.

If you don't mind using Cho on the forums, he splits boxes out of the Uk and you can get things you really want instead of getting the whole box.

If I was starting a force and like the Morats more I would get the Starter as cheap as possible, get the Boarding Shotgun and HMG Rodoks from the new pack via Cho, grab one of the Yaogats and give him a Sniper Rifle from the Vanguard box, if that sounds too intense you can always proxy or get the Maakrep if you don't mind some Sigma.

Would also ask Cho for a couple of Daturazi, the HMG and SR Vanguard from the SWC box.

If you wanna buy the boxes and stuff, by all means get what you think looks fun. Combined Army is very strong and I still believe that everything can be useful or doable in Infinity.

Except for Raktoraks, fucking hate those useless shits. I proxied both as Kurgats or Rasyats.

Do you think you want to go just straight Morat Aggression Force or still Vanilla Combined with heavy Morat influences?
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>>44634397
>They had the choice of convert or die. Most noticed that after they had been claimed by the EI not much had changed despite what their leaders had told them. Most go to war against the Tohaa because they felt betrayed. Is that what you meant?

Yep
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>>44634397
>They had the choice of convert or die. Most noticed that after they had been claimed by the EI not much had changed despite what their leaders had told them. Most go to war against the Tohaa because they felt betrayed.

This doesn't sound anything like what a sepsitorized being would say
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>>44635153
A lot of them didn't get Sepsitorized though.
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>>44635153
The CA doesn't actually use sepsitors that often. Doing it en masse would cause more problems than it would solve, since most of the people you didn't manage to sepsitorize would get really pissed off with you and try to rebel.

It's far easier just to give orders to their leadership and let them sweat the details.
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>>44635422
>>44635243
CADF plz go
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>>44635639
Oh come on... I'm actually really stoked for my new Tohaa units!
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Are they gonna make any more Dark Tohaa?
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>>44637256
Probably. I doubt they'll get a whole sectorial, though.
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>>44637283
Maybe theyre with onyx? With that biotech drones i bet the sygmaa is behind all the design
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>>44637283
>>44637283
Awww :(
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>>44637914
They'll probably be in either the Tohaa or CA book for the RPG, though.
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>>44637655
>>44637283
Seein that Onyx is more "CA all-stars" with morat and shas units, I think it's possible that Sygmaa gets their own in future. Hell, they might get some Tohaa units too (mainly kamael and makaul, especially the latter, because those are older units in fluff and don't have that strong "anti EI" stigma) to fill basic LI and WB roles.
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>>44637951
See>>44619755
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Tohaa
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Group 1 9 / 0 / 2
KERAIL PRECEPTOR Submachine Gun, Smoke Grenades + 2 Surda SymbioBeasts / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (28)
2x SURDA SYMBIOBEAST Pulzar / Viral CCW. (16)
KAMAEL (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (13)
SAKIEL Combi Rifle, Swarm Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (20)
KOSUIL Engineer K1 Combi Rifle, D-Charges, Nullifier / Pistol, Knife. (29)
SAKIEL Spitfire / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 23)
KAMAEL (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (13)
KOSUIL Minelayer K1 Combi Rifle, D-Charges, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (25)
RASAIL Lieutenant Viral Combi Rifle + 1 Chaksa Peripheral / Pistol, Knife. (42)
CHAKSA PERIPHERAL Heavy Flamethrower / Pistol, Knife. (4)
KAELTAR (Chain of Command) Combi Rifle, Flash Pulse + 2 SymbioMates / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0.5 | 26)

Group 2 0
GAO-TARSOS HMG / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 39)
CHAKSA AUXILIAR (Neurocinetics, 360º Visor) HMG / Pistol, CCW. (1 | 25)
CHAKSA AUXILIAR Smart Heavy Rocket Launcher / Pistol, CCW. (1 | 15)

5.5 SWC | 298 Points

[url=http://www.infinitythegame.com/army/index.php?l=ODElVG9oYWElNzUxJjI1NjQmMXw2NDYmMjIzNSYxfDY0NyYyMjM4JjF8NzQzJjI1MjYmMXw2NDcmMjI0MiYxfDY0NiYyMjM1JjF8NzQzJjI1MjcmMXw2NjImMjI5NiYxfDcxOSYyNDM0JjF8NjQ5JjIyNTEmMnw2NTUmMjI3NCYyfDY1NSYyMjc1JjIlMjk4JTUuNSUwJQ@@]Open with Army 5

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Bad?
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Does Infinity play anything like that old Flashpoint skrimish game?
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>>44638470
2nd group may leave your Garsos in a pinch with its lack of orders and you may not have enough command tokens to spare to change its group. Said group also have most of your heavy weapons. This list might see some major problems on a table not overloaded with terrain.
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>>44638499
If you mean skirmish game from Virtual Fusion Press (that was so old it's kinda hard to find anything from it), I'd say yes and no. Both have been compared to some of the older 40k editions, but Infinity relies heavily on terrain and has extensive reaction system and, if I understood right on Flashpoint, fewer models and pretty much no vehicles.
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Tohaa
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Group 1 10 / 0 / 0
KERAIL PRECEPTOR Submachine Gun, Smoke Grenades + 2 Surda SymbioBeasts / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (28)
SURDA SYMBIOBEAST Pulzar / Viral CCW. (8)
KOSUIL Engineer K1 Combi Rifle, D-Charges, Nullifier / Pistol, Knife. (29)
KOSUIL Engineer Boarding Shotgun, D-Charges, Panzerfaust / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 24)
KAELTAR (Chain of Command) Combi Rifle, Flash Pulse + 2 SymbioMates / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0.5 | 26)
ECTROS HMG, Nanopulser / Pistol, CCW. (2 | 51)
ECTROS Lieutenant Viral Combi Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, CCW. (49)
GAO-RAEL Spitfire / Pistol, CCW. (1.5 | 36)
KAMAEL (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (13)
KAMAEL (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (13)
CLIPSOS (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (25)

4.5 SWC | 294 Points

[url=http://www.infinitythegame.com/army/index.php?l=ODElVG9oYWElNzUxJjI1NjQmMXw3NDMmMjUyNiYxfDc0MyYyNTI4JjF8NzE5JjI0MzQmMXw2NTAmMjI1NSYxfDY1MCYyMjU3JjF8NjQ4JjIyNDgmMXw2NDYmMjIzNSYxfDY0NiYyMjM1JjF8NjUyJjIyNjcmMSUyOTQlNC41JTAl]Open with Army 5

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>>44638772
Looks good pretty vunerable to fire however.
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>>44638828
Well, there is Kaeltar with symbiomates to counter that somewhat.
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What do you want to play for the RPG?
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>>44639101
Shasvastii infiltrator.
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>>44639101
_male lizard pilot
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>>44638353
>makaul
So, CA hiring space elf corsair mercenary?
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>>44639249

You can't. They don't fit in the cockpit right; there's boob sockets in the clamshell and the heavy flamethrower is controlled via vaginal muscles.
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>>44639101
KOSUIL constantly talking about the Tohaa Illuminatey conspiracy.
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>>44639344
>Vaginal muscles
>not using Rectal muscles as subtitute
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>>44639101
A rogue void operator who came to the human sphere in search of cash.
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Which faction would you say has a high degree of variance in army lists? Do any factions have diverse lists because certain units are only viable due to synergy with others? Basically I want to play a faction which isn't just 300 pts of generic 'good stuff'.
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Are Domaru worth taking if I already have Haramaki in the list?
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>>44639420

Rectal muscles control the reload function on the HMG.
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>>44639725
Only a single one for Lt option in my opinion.
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>>44639591
All vanilla factions (not sectorial that is) have big varietie at their hand, aside from Tohaa and maybe Aleph a bit. They are the newest factions and that's why they don't have that many units.
The synergies are more organic and common among the factions.

I feel the Nomads and Haqqislam have a lot of cool choices especially.
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>>44639982
Shame, the new box looks really nice, but I can't see why i'd take them over haramaki, maybe 1 or two for heavyish filler.
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>>44640030
yeah, I don't see why to pick them also. I think it would be great to have a CoC option for them also. You could have Lt and Coc in one link and that would be really risky but that aside CoC would give them specialist option and this is something that would made Domaru stand out. Or smoke granedes.. Something that makes them worth taking.. Well I hope for changes in HS3.
Also for me Kerail is a first sloppy play from CB. Fix it CB!
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>>44640074
Reduce SWC of spitfires by 1 or .5, take a link team of spitfires?

Should I be bringing more than 1 haramaki ml? I've never considered it and usually just have a raiden for more explosions
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>>44640109
When I play Haramaki (I only play JSA from time to time) I always take 2 ML.

Also reducing SWC for Domaru is not the way to make them usefull.. JSA has a link to kill, has some hitters, it needs something more, not in the killing direction.
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>>44640189
Giving Domaru smoke really wouldn't fit though, since JSA only has access to it through named characters. The CoC would be great and an upgrade over the Kempei
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I hear a lot of people in batreps pronounce "kamael" something like "ku-maul". Does anyone else pronounce it more like Samael?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZwivj8eNHU
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>>44640387
I always thought it was pronounced ka-mail.
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>>44640387
It depends on the country.
I pronounce it like Samael - but this would be nothing strange in polish pronunciation.
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>>44640387
Yeah like that vid. ka-ma-el. Ma-ka-ul. Etc etc. But only because that's how I first heard it pronounced when I watched the Tohaa reveals during the Campaign Paradiso Infinity week
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>>44640387
In Germany at least it is pronounced like Samael.
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Wip on my hacker. Visor is going to get redone. Did not like the turquise glaze. It looks way to green.
The face and lining the armor and I am done with this mini.
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>>44640524
From behind.
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>>44640387
I sound it using some German structure. You sound the second vowel as the main sound for the word.

Kamael to me has been Kuh-meel
Makaul has been Muh-kool or Muh-cull
Kotail is co-tale.

That's just how I've done it.
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Looking for some advice here, I'm about to get into infinity and I can't decide between nomads and islam; can you guys tell me what's the general feeling while playing them casualy? I know that nomads have l337 haxxor 5killz, and Islam awesome healing, but what can I expect while playing a regular starter pack army?
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guize, I need helps.

I'm stuck on color scheme for muh nomads.
I want to do orange armor, with grey cloth, with white visors and shit.

The thing is:
orange don't cover the grey, even though is macharius solar orange, and the grey is fenris grey.

Where does the clothing stop and the armor start? nomade kit just seems to be one big ass coverall with holes in it, sometimes.

how do i into paint??
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>>44642002
I'd suggest Islam, then you can actually play as a moderate sensible islam, which will be like a breath of fresh air.

No one else plays them anyway, so you'll be the unique snowflake with awesome models.
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>>44642268
In general Nomads (especially Corregidor) usually have jumpsuits with puffy pants and armoured torsos and legs below knees. Bakunin is similar, but less puffy, albeit with an occasional hood or cape.
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>>44642268
Start with not using shitty GW paints. Also white base is a good start. Orange tend to be tricky, also white. If you have those problems I guess you are a novice painter. Got some bad news for you - white is one of the gardest colours to paint good and orange is not easy at all.

>>44642433
>No one else plays them anyway
Hi, this is Infinity General when we talk about Infinity The Game. As you have no idea about this game - check the OP for more informations.
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>>44640524
After the lining are you going to pick out the edges of the armor with white or bone? Because you should... The rifle looks great.
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>>44642605
Yeah I will. Thing is I want to start on my Haqq today but I need to finish this mini, an ORC (swiss guard hacker) and an Akali Spotfire aswell before friday. After that I'm starting my Haqq adventures.

Overall I'm happy with my scheme for my PanO it's just that everything not airbrushed looks like ass.
Thinking about doing it all but highlighting and faces with airbrush and exstensive masking on my Haqq. See how it looks.
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In Bakunin can I take a fireteam of just a Moira with HMG, Kusanagi, and a Reverend Healer?
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>>44644775
I'm not sure you can even have Kusanagi and Healer in the same link by RAW. In Joan's case it is explicitly written she can be with Gabe in a link, but here it's not.
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>>44644775
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>>44642538
Why hello there pretentious cunt wad ! :D :D

Over here there are a few infinity players, not one of them plays space taliban.
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>>44645049
That is severely lacking. Doesn't even mention Riot Grrrls or Wildcats.

>>44644775
>>44645005
Here's the excerpt.
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>>44645150
>>44645049
>>44645005
>>44644775
http://infinitytheforums.com/forum/topic/30963-solved-kornak-raktorok-suryat-link-again/#comment-675003
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>>44645228
The wording here is different though: Kornak can join any HI team, regardless of what it is, while Raktorak can only be linked to Suryats. So Kornak is more flexible.

With Healer and Kusanagi it seems more restrictive, like Kusanagi can only be in a team composed exclusively of Moiras, same with Healer.

Like I said, my frame of reference is Joan: either Jeannie with 4 Hospitallers/Santiago or a spelled out link team with Gabe and 3 Hospitallers, no other interpretations.
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>>44645429
In the builder Kornak has the same (2+1; 3+1 or 4+1) language though. That's why I'm confused.
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>>44639591
>>44640021
I'd offer up Yujing as having pretty high variance as well. Just their heavy infantry alone have a flavor for every need, from close quarters, infiltration, and all the way to fire support. Also home to some bonkers stuff like a holo projecting MSV remote, Kuang Shi, and motorcycles. No obvious gaps except for cheap workhorse specialists.

Pan O I would put lower on the variance because there are obvious elements that they just do not have, a number of sectoral only troops, and a lot of overlap among their knight selection. Great TAG variance though.
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>>44645555
Yeah, but Kornak has "any HI link". SO for instance Suryats and Raktorak.
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>>44645005

People are arguing this again?

I want RAW fags to die
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>>44645787
This really should be in the FAQ.
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>>44645890
HSN3 when?!
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>>44640387

I pronounce it like Samael.


For reference I've been doing

Toe-ha

Coat tail

muh call

Sack kee el

Cur rail

Knee Coal or Nicole depending on laziness

Surda usually done as Cyka, with the pair being Cyka Blyat
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>>44630088
"The Controller and the Remote only provide a single Order to the Orders Reserve and both are activated with only one Order. It is mandatory both figures belong to the same Combat Group where they count as a single figure."
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I did some terrible things to a baggage bot. I'm trying to make a Pi-Well, I'm gonna proxy a Custodier as Zoe until I pick up a Dactyls I think. Does it work?
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January Releases from Mayacast:
- "Something for PanO, but I wont give details"
- Hac Tao Hacker
- Hassassin Govads
- USARF Desperados
- Onzat with Vullan Shotgun
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>>44649056
Extra News:
- Angel is working on HSN3 Preorder model and new ITS winner model.
- Ulhans and Tikbalangs probably in the first half of 2016.
- Operation Flamerstrike beginning at the end of January. BoW is working on a website.
- 2016 will be Yu Jing's year
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>>44649056
>Onzat with Vullan shotgun
What? Oznat?
>>44648827
battletech/10
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>>44649310
Yep. Onzat with Vulkan Shotgun. Wouldve prefered Zerat reaculpt. But Vullan Shotgun is new for Onzat though
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>>44649284
>- Ulhans and Tikbalangs probably in the first half of 2016.
I ain't fucking believing until I fucking see it
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>>44649620
2015 was year of the Stingray, after all...
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>>44649284
What is Operation Flamestrike?
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>>44650182
Yu Jing x Ariadna starter box?
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>>44650182
It's an online compaign run by CB anf BoW. There will be new missions and achievements for prizes. The campaign will "have meaning" for a specific island on Paradiso. It's all free too and there will be a massive PDF available when it starts.
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>>44649056
>something for PanO
Well, what could that be? I wouldn't mind a Hospitaller box, but that's unlikely.
>>44649310
It *really* does look like something straight out of Battletech. Probably either a gauss or a AC/20 in one arm and a medium laser in the other.
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>>44648827

Look roughly 35 tons, AC/10, maybe C3?

Urbanmech IIC?
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One question:

I've recently bought a box of 45th highlanders as the start of my horde. Would it be incorrect historically to paint woad on them?
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>>44651851

It's Ariadna. None of them would be able to call you on it.

It might be some sort of topically applied Nomad war juice.
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>>44649056
Black Friars?

Govads are going to be a boxed set huh? Coolio!
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Do Battletech quads make good REM stand-ins sizewise?
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>>44651851

Absolutely not, in fact the new highlanders have woad on the studio model


Remember, Caledonia isn't historical Scotland. It's what a bunch of futuristic stranded colonists forced into barbarism THOUGHT Scotland was like. It's literally a culture based on cliches played straight
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>>44652605

They wouldn't be too far off. Maybe a bit skinny. And they'd need to be on the right bases, obviously. But a lot of the quads wouldn't be too far off the Nomad remotes in terms of size, at least the basic remotes.
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>>44651673
>Well, what could that be?
The full quote was "Mind the gap. Something for PanO, but I wont give details."

And a forumite already figured out that Blackfriars is a subway station in the UK with Mind the Gap being a warning sign there.
>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackfriars_station
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>>44655663

Sounds like the perfect pretext for a group of reeducated Templar hackers.
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>>44649056
>Hac Tao hacker
muh dick can only be so hard.
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>>44653940
More like scottish, brit, and a few other descendants thrown in.
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>>44657479
Scottish is Brit.
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>>44649056
>Hac Tao Hacker

Hack Tao, m i rite?
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>>44657479
It was the welsh and scots and british wasn't it?
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>>44657891
Go to bed carlos
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>>44655663
God I hope the black fairs are worth taking
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>>44649284
>- 2016 will be Yu Jing's year
I thought it was tohaa
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>>44657056
>>44657891

>inb4 no one actually uses that to begin with
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>>44657567
Don't tell them that

>>44658399
I think so. And possibly Danes? Or did they join up with the French?
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>>44659067
>inb4 git gud
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>>44659634
I don't think the non-dominant ethnics in Ariadna had some one destination. Like, if there were, say, 200 Danes on board, they all decided to interbreed and stick to French. These people had different backgrounds and were probably served in different branches. Håkan in engineering married a russian girl and Elise in science division ended up as a co-founder of small USAdrianan community, for example. There probably are some small "muh heritage" groups, but those are most likely spread across all factions.
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>>44651673
Maybe finally something for Acontecimento.
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Is Yuriko worth picking up for JSA?
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>>44662380
Yes.
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>>44662380
Yep, especially in a Keisotsu link. She's a competent Engineer who is pretty well equipped...dat panzerfaust is super nice
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>>44662509
>>44662537
Kk, ty anons
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>>44655663
Well, that's cool, but will those do? I mean, it's obviously another Order, Dominicans if I remember correctly, but I have no idea what niche they might want to fill.
As is we already have a glut of heavy infantry, so I doubt CB will introduce yet more of those. Same goes for Cheap smoke warbands or skirmishers wound be nice, since getting into melee is still fairly tricky, but I'd also take a Dactyls-style specialist unit, with doctor, engineer, hacker and something else (chain of command?) in a pinch.
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>>44662713
What if they're not HI, but MI and are MO's Bolts/Wildcats?
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I'm bored, so I propose following challenge. Make a viable list for a sectorial without it's usual crutches or particular strenghts. I start with ASS: No myrmidons or named characters. Had to take myrmidon officer to act as lt.

Steel Phalanx

Group 1 9 / 0 / 0
EKDROMOS Hacker (Assault Hacking Device) Chain Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, DA CCW. (0.5 | 25)
DACTYL Engineer Combi Rifle, Adhesive-Launcher, D-Charges / 2 Breaker Pistols, Knife. (23)
DACTYL Doctor (MediKit) Combi Rifle, Adhesive-Launcher, Nimbus Grenades / 2 Breaker Pistols, Knife. (23)
YUDBOT Electric Pulse. (3)
AGÊMA Marksman Missile Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 27)
AGÊMA Marksman MULTI Sniper Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 30)
MYRMIDON Lieutenant Combi Rifle, Nanopulser, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW. (0.5 | 31)
THORAKITES (Forward Observer) Submachine gun, Chain Rifle, Flash Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (13)
THORAKITES Submachine gun, Chain Rifle, Flash Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (12)
THORAKITES Submachine gun, Chain Rifle, Flash Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (12)

Group 2 0
THORAKITES Paramedic (Medikit) Submachine gun, Chain Rifle, Flash Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (14)
THORAKITES (Forward Observer) Submachine gun, Chain Rifle, Flash Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (13)
EKDROMOS HMG, Nanopulser / Pistol, DA CCW. (1.5 | 37)
THORAKITES Submachine gun, Chain Rifle, Flash Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (12)
DALETH Rebot Combi Rifle, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (17)
NETROD Electric Pulse. (4)
NETROD Electric Pulse. (4)

5.5 SWC | 300 Points
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>>44649056
Really cant wait for Govads!

>>44659051
That was 2015. I hope year of Yu Jing means an army pack like USARF
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>>44662737
So, worthless? Yeah, sure, I'd love that...
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>>44649284
>2016 will be Yu Jing's year
I hope they fix Pheasants. That would be really nice.
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>>44663086
What would you change?
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>>44663136
Make them cheaper and cut off some of the useless shit like that mono CCW. The main problem with Pheasants now is that they're underspecialised. They've got the weapon and CC stats of a close combat unit but no good delivery methods, and at the same time almost all of their loadouts include a sniper rifle or an X-visor which make them more suited to long range. What you end up with is an overcosted unit that isn't particularly good at anything.
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>>44663224

Dropping the mono would almost certainly fix the price issue. Alternatively, don't charge them for the mono. If they were only 30 points or thereabouts they wouldn't be bad at all. Like a tricked out Kempetai.
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>>44661493

>not using camo infiltrators as the physical button pushers instead

>not using much cheaper CG as the backline support

Bit of a shame to not use the EO variants instead.

>>44662760

Hopefully it won't be a year of dissappointments.
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Around Haqqs, never relax.
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>>44649056
>- Hac Tao Hacker
Yeah boy!
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>>44659067
I probably will at least once.
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>>44659634
They can deny it all they want, but it stands until they inevitably re-vote for independence.
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>>44649056
Instead of having 4 models for an availability 1 unit, why not recast some Hsien or something.
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>>44665541
>using other than lt and HMG Hsiens

You're cute.
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>>44664727
Well, at least no obvious lt.
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