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>>44585292
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Jumpers, what's the weirdest situation you've found yourself starting a Jump in?
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>>44603759
Girlchan in paradise.

Need I say more?

Also source?
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>>44603784
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>>44603759
You used a very suspicious comic series from a very suspect artist to start this discussion.

Anyway I'd like to give you another answer, but since I started >>44603784 as a literal abortion I can't exactly say anything else.
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>>44603784
Ah, I didn't see what you said at the end, else I would've told you and not made another post. That artist is big on furry and zoophilia, with a small minority of monstergirl stuff. Not a lot of porn, but tons and tons of romance. So I do not think you want the source.
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>>44603967
Fair enough
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>>44603759
>>44603784
Isn't that Sanzo?
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Anyone know any perks or items to convert physical energies into mystical ones? So far all I've found is Universal Adapter from Storm Hawks, and that's stated to be very inefficient. Granted, I've got a lot of energy to work with (ACU Mortar Head Light of Terra with the Dark Star Generator, imported as a Classic Muscle Car in Supernatural, imported as my body in Undertale), but I still don't want to be wasteful.
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>>44604102
Para-Magic from FF8?
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>>44603930
>suspicious
>suspect

wut?
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>>44604102

I'm not completely sure if this would work or not, but the Marvel jump lets you combine perks.

The energy perk mentions blasts of magical energy as an option, and there's a shapeshifting perk.

So you might be able to combined them to get the ability to convert one form of energy to another.
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>>44604144
That could work. I could fuel the paramagic with conventional energy, then use magic-absorbing to recycle that back into magical energy.

>>44604171
I'd have to ask Marvel Anon next time he's around if that's valid.

Right, thanks, anons!
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>>44604147
It's art from a porn artist. I made that obvious a few posts down.
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>>44604240
Why's it gotta be raw mana?
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>>44604330
I've never seen that artist make any porny art, unless you consider romance porn.

Though knowing JC, at least a couple of people do.
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>>44604694
He's done a very small amount.
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>>44604668
Paramagic can only cast spells based on what you fueled it with. So I couldn't use the infinite electrical power supply I have for anything other than electrical spells. I'd need to process it further from electrical mana to a more general purpose form.
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>>44604699
In that case why even try to obscure the artist's name? You can't even see any adult pictures on Pixiv unless you make an account.
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>>44604752
I find it disagreeable.
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>>44604803
...you're a very strange person to be browsing this site, then. That said, you're not the first prude I've met here, though the other one I know of is a tripfag of ill repute-not one who comes around here, fortunately

>>44604102
Landscapist from Endless Legend, sort of?
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>>44604836
Landscapist is more about attuning yourself to sources of energy than converting them. Also, Ardent Mage "sorcery" is really just them communing with ancient alien femtotechnology, so even if it did work that way it wouldn't help me. Thanks for the suggestion, though.
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>>44604102
Dresden files, its something he explicitly does through items several times.

Dresden files is funny though in that its half deterministic and half not, you have to believe in a spell for it to work and it can work differently from person to person, but it still requires the energy to work. So pick up a minor or major faith perk in magic or energy conversion and you should definitely be able to do it.
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>>44605286
That's a weird way to think about it, but it sounds like the best suggestion so far. Okay, Dresden magic it is.
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>>44605307
Just a quick note that wizards in universe do have access to a recharging energy pool, so if you dont have that evocation is right out(off the cuff magic). But thaumaturgy(ritual magic and enchanting, think potions, voodoo dolls, finding spells, and rocket skateboards) is what he used to do it in the first place and while he did it with some of his own juice, often times he draws from energy around him.

and one character who explicitly has no magic has been shown to do ritual magic, which is what led to rocket skateboards

Just giving you some extra info on it, convertig it to other energy sources might be pretty damn inefficient or require some other perks, but definitely doable.
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>>44604102
Inheritence Cycle (Eragon) magic runs off energy as understood by physics and it can be converted and stored using magical means. It's also very versatile and should just keep scaling as long as you can supply more energy.
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>>44605429
Gotta tolerate that elf wank though.
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>>44605449
>tolerate
>not torch
I honestly don't know how anyone could stand that jump any other way.
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>>44605429
Oh, that sounds even better. And I could Conjoined Conjures to link it into any other magical system I wanted to use. Okay, time to go to Eragon and see if it's as bad as everyone says it is.
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>>44605449
What if we are the elf wankers though?
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So how am I supposed to remember who I am after 40 years or so? Even if I avoid backgrounds like I am right now, time's a bitch.
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>>44605429
>>44605458
...you know, fun fact. With those in mind and 'Science Changes Everything' from Gate making your magic more efficient the more physics and science you know? It feels like combining Eragon magic with it could yield some crazy things.
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>>44605374
I thought that Bob was helping him out, which is why he could do the ritual magic.
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>>44605477
You can like elves, but you're not gonna be able to tolerate the fellatio Paolini gives his.
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Omega beams, just how do they work?
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>>44605449
Can't be any worse than Twilight's vampire wanking.
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>>44605519
You are in for a treat.
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>>44605449
>>44605454

I haven't taken it yet, but I've considered attempting to troll the elves by taking the 600 cp drawback, agreeing with them in the most horrific way possible whenever they do something, immediately switch to agreeing again when they realize the implication and try to counter it, and answer any comment about not making sense with "I'm not being paid for you to be wrong."
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>>44605485
Bob taught him how, which I imagine at first was like teaching a blind man to shoot. It may have been how you say though, actually, yeah he did need bob to put in the startup energy, but that may have been due to the complexity of the items, since he can make a circle without issue, while keeping polka alive. Yet considering you can pick up a spirit of air in jump I was really just telling him his options
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>>44605519
This is technically true but only because elf babies don't erupt like chestbursters from their mother's stomach right before falling in love with a werewolf at eye contact

And because there's one elf who acts like a dwarf and thinks all the other elves should go fuck themselves
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I've never understood why people say Inheritance has elf wank. Yeah, the author goes on about how great they are in the second book, but then why the war actually starts they barely do anything, take the most casualties, and the queen dies like a bitch. Not to mention their inability to zerg rush Galby when he first rose up and took over the human kingdom. They spent a hundred years hiding in their forest afraid of a single Rider and Dragon.
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>>44605518
His eyes are just twin symbiotic laser snakes. Didnt you read the fall of mount dread?
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>>44605554
Probably because the way they slaughtered humans near their village and how they're portrayed as good for doing so.
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>>44605554
That would actually make it worse. Had they lived up to the wank they would have just been mary sue the race.

Failing to live up to it just means the author has a huge boner for them.
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Is there a perk that lets you form weapons out of positive emotions? I vaguely remember one, but I'm not sure if I actually read it last night or dreamed it.
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>>44605554
Because in spite of being more useless than a vegan salad in a shark feeding frenzy, the elvish lifestyle is still lauded as being infinitely superior to plebian human/dorf scum
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>>44605480
Get an Eidetic Memory perk. Don't think too hard about how much people change naturally, even in short spans of time.

Alternatively, one of the mind rape origins in Animal Crossing lowers the effect background memories have on you massively.

If you've gone Drop-In only until that jump, it actually doesn't have any side-effects at all and you don't have to worry about the big issue of suddenly being detached from a shitton of memories.
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>>44605480
Make sure you grab Savant in your first jump, or some equivalent memory perk soon after.
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>>44605600
Lantern rings from marvel
Sword singer dudes from elder scrolls
Soul knife from dark sun/ravenloft/forgotten realms
I think the zelda hero capstone is something close
Maaayyybe castlevania or van helsing
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>>44605600
Uh, a magical girl setting?
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>>44605663
Frick, list some stuff and forget the most obvious answer.

>>44605600
Power rangers
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>>44605659
>>44605663
Just checked back through my jumps, looks like it's "The Power of Love" from Scott Pilgrim
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>>44605554
On an unrelated note, why is this in the Finished Jumps section? It's clearly a WIP - aside from the low quality in general, the Rider background's cost hasn't been finalized.
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>>44605710
Oh yeah, forgot the part where he literally forms a sword out of nothing. Then immediately forms another one. Scott pilgrim is weird.
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>>44605646
Is there even anything as good as Savant in other jumps? I already took Psionic and Pokeglot, which I kind of need both of, and I don't think it's actually possible for me to grab all three without making serious sacrifices that I'm too much of a bitch to handle right now.
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>>44605753
There are other perfect memory perks, and other perfect shooting perks. It is pretty fantastic, though, although not sure if it compares to Psionic, or getting +300 free CP in Pokemon Mystery Dungeon.
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>>44605659
> Lantern rings from Marvel
> Marvel
Triggered
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>>44605776
I don't get the issue. Now if you don't mind, I need to pick up a couple lightsabers from Star Trek.
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>>44605848
Tis a reference to days long past.
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>>44605776
I am a dumb
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>>44605548
>And because there's one elf who acts like a dwarf and thinks all the other elves should go fuck themselves

God, Rhunon was best elf.
Almost pod-worthy.
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>>44605483
So now I just need to figure out how much energy this combo actually lets me work with. The Dark Star produces "greater than that of the most advanced power generators and mass extractors". The Tier 3 Generator produces 2500 Energy. The Hydrocarbon Generator structure produces only 100 Energy. Supreme Commander uses some pretty huge scales, so the Hydrocarbon Generator is probably the equivalent of the Ratcliff-On-Soar coal plant in the UK, an output of 2 gigawatts. That would make the Tier 3 Generator output 50 gigawatts, and for the Dark Star to be notably more powerful that it should probably be at least 150% of it's output, so 75 gigawatts for the standard Dark Star.

But, I'm not working with a standard Dark Star. I'm working with one scaled up to the ACU Mortar Head Light of Terra. The normal one is designed for a machine 270 meters long on its largest dimension. The upgraded LoT is 216 kilometers on its largest dimension. Being a bubble universe, the Dark Star's production should increase with its volume. So one scaled up by a factor of 800 would produce 512 million times the power. That's 38.4 exawatts. For reference, that's roughly equivalent to 18 times the total energy released by every nuclear bomb ever detonated put together...continuously repeated once every second.

Okay, I clearly should have done this math before I decided to do this combo. I'm fairly certain that I won't just explode immediately, since I've got Jump-chan fiat holding me together (the Classic Muscle Car retains full functionality of the original vehicle, so that should include power management). But I still don't think I could ever properly use it. Even one percent of its full power would be enough to outshine the sun in the sky. Literally, average solar energy striking the Earth's surface at any one time is only 173000 terawatts, that's half a percent of the Dark Star's output. Any attempt to actually take advantage of this combo would end in me destroying the world.
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Damnit, you guys have too many jumps. Trying to find a memory perk that isn't "and your memory's a bit better" is a pain in the ass.
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>>44604803
So, do Puritans have meetings or a clubhouse or what? How do you meet to not have fun as a group?
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>>44605374
Couldn't you fuel evocation yourself if you had a personal mana pool from somewhere else?
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>>44606014
And now you are Saitama.

>>44606019
>Trying to find a memory perk that isn't "and your memory's a bit better" is a pain in the ass.

Pokemon, Savant Perk
Great Detective, Mental Palaces Perk
Fable, Hero of Will Perk

They're all expensive, but they've got what you need plus some extra goodies.
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>>44606014
Does the Dark Star even scale up like that?
Assuming it does... I might have underestimated how horrifically powerful my own ACU is...
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>>44606019
KOTOR. It's got an eidactic memory perk for 100cp. Might not be as good as PM, but there it is.
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>>44606081
Anon I just find non-humanoid romance disagreeable. That doesn't mean I'm not sick nasty otherwise.
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>>44606019
>Genius -DC
>Enhanced Memory -KOTOR
>Motivated -A Certain Scientific Railgun
>Index -A Certain Magical Index
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>>44606014
Eh. I actually try to avoid fiat as much as I can, if only because I feel for combos it's better to cover your bases as much as you can. If you're unsure about power management, find some things which specifically DO allow it. You've been trying to turn regular energy into spell usage, right? FF6, Yoshi's Island, RO, plenty of places that offer the ability to reduce magical requirements or waste no magic at all. THEN in Type-0 you have Altocrystarium which can help you convert technology into magical equivalents... and with magic-boosting perks that means you could probably convert some pretty damned good regulators. Of course if you don't feel comfy with that, try to get as many Magitech perks as you can possibly scavenge.

Personal opinions on why you would even NEED a ship that big aside, another thing you could just do is try to invest in wireless energy technology. With that kind of range you could just deploy satellites and beam it to power all of your stuff just to offset some of the concerns, while making it power your ship 24/7.
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>>44606152
No, I'm confident I can contain it. Even without fiat, I've got enough other things that would help me hold together despite the strain. I just don't know what I'd do with this. I severely underestimated the output. This is enough energy to rend apart worlds, what am I going to do with that other than, you know, rend apart worlds? My ambitions have been outstripped by my accomplishments, it's supposed to go the other way around when you're committing acts of hubris.
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>>44606133
I looked up the artist and I'm having a hard time finding anything other than cute things. You seem to be really defensive, closet furry who rails against everything even remotely near your fetish?
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>>44606014

https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/supcom-information-megathread.205530/

May be of use.
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>>44606181
Have you considered, well...

...creating worlds?
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>>44606181
Experiment? Try to pump all the energy into energy-mass converters? Have the mother of all disco raves? I'm sure you can figure something out.

>>44606116
I legit don't know, it definitely seems like something the jumpmaker would be best in clarifying. I personally solve any issues in my chain by assuming scaling up or combination only makes the changes additive, not multiplicative. But again, that's me only and should not be taken as insistence in any way, shape, or form.
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>>44603759
Sanzooooo!

Everything he does is adorable.
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>>44606212
I said non-humanoid anon. And he does things like a human raised by a dragon wanting to screw his mom.
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>>44606329
You're the guy who was going on and on about how computers and non humans can't feel love aren't you?
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>>44606329
Not him, but I don't see anything worth giving a damn about on his account. Just dumb manga stuff, nothing lewd.

And besides-do me a favour and check which site you're on. Bet you there's like 5 threads out there celebrating monstergirls, or straight up things like dragons.
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>>44606389
No, I'm not sure why anyone would think an advanced enough AI couldn't feel love, or even outside of objections that these creatures could.

>>44606402
Simply because I am here, does not mean I agree with or like everything on the site.
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>>44606329
You seem to know an awful lot about these things, are you sure its not your fetish?
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>>44606418
That's vaguely creepy but also adorable
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>>44606418
Anon, I just don't understand why it's bothering people I said I found it objectionable.
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>>44606730
Because you're an inherent contradiction and we like pointing it out that you seem to know way more about inhuman romance, jap artists with a limited footprint hosted on a site that pretty much requires you to be a regular user to navigate or know moon runes, on a site known for its bizarre tastes.

Its less likely you find it objectionable and more likely you're pretending you do. That's primarily what we find objectionable, the false pretense. Also if you actually do believe it then you're hilariously puritan about 2D images on fucking 4chan and /tg/ of all board, and should be laughed at.
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A question about the force sensitive background in Clone Wars:

Does it get discounts on all force powers, or are the 3 free 200 point powers all they get?

How dangerous are the Yuuzhan Vong, and how likely would their assault be stopped if the Confederacy and the Republic pool their resources to fight them?

If we take the Yuuzhan Vong drawback, how soon do they attack?

If I stack the engineering perks from KotOR and Clone Wars, would I be able to eventually build superweapons like the Death Star and the Eclipse?
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>>44606730
Because you're being lumped in with the people who leverage indignation and moral judgement against anyone who does not adhere to puritanical posting standards.

I get that you're not like that, at least you seem fairly live and let live, but by sounding out that you find something objectionable you invite comparison between those who bludgeon others with their own morality and yourself.

Like said, you don't seem like that, but to me that's what seems like is happening.
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>>44606836
The Vong take over the Galaxy basically.
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>>44606836
>Does it get discounts on all force powers, or are the 3 free 200 point powers all they get?
If I remember right, it's the latter and not the former. Though if you want the definitive answer, wait for KOTOR.
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>>44606833
If it's a big deal, I know about him from that t-rex monstergirl comic he does that a friend told me about.
>>44606845
It seems this might be the case.
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>>44606836
My default answer to most SW problems is the same: slug throwers.

Warfare being what it is, the defenses of the SW-verse are designed to defeat the weapons of the SW-verse. Kinetic energy weapons, slug throwers up to rail guns, have a higher rate of fire and projectiles that fly faster than their direct energy SW counterparts.

Now that isn't to say that a box of Sten guns will solve the YV drawback, or anything else in SW, but it'll go a good deal farther than most of what you buy in universe.
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>>44606949
They have slug throwers in Star Wars. They're worse than Blasters and Jedi can still dodge them.
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>>44606836
>Does it get discounts on all force powers, or are the 3 free 200 point powers all they get?
99% sure they're non-discounted. Only Force Sensitives can buy them in the first place, so why would they have a discount instead of being listed for full price?
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>>44606961
I call bullshit. Modern firearms have higher rates of fire than blasters, and the rounds travel faster. You see Force users get overwhelmed with mass of blaster fire in the movies and the cartoons, so it stands to reason that weapons that are better, per instance, than blasters will fare better.
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>>44606949
Flamethrowers solve way more problems than slug throwers in SW. They're the premier 'try blocking aoe cunt ass' weapon.
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>>44606998
Plus they seem to not require much in the way of fuel, so that's nice.
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>>44606836
They don't get the discounts, it's just the other backgrounds can't take them at all.
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>>44606992
You're basing your assumption on blaster rate of fire from observing them in the movies, instead of reading the lore aren't you? Confusing theatrical limitations for reality?
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>>44606992
iirc blasters are more destructive and harder to defend against with armor(not that jedi wear armor), as well has effectively having more ammo.
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>>44607032
>Confusing theatrical limitations for reality?
You say theatrical limitations, but the choice was repeatedly made to show blasters firing at a set rate with a particular flight time. Sure, you can cite muh books, muh canon, but the movies are typically regarded as more canonical and in the movies blaster bolts are far slower than firearm projectiles.

>>44607040
>blasters are more destructive and harder to defend against with armor
See, that makes sense.

>more ammo
And again, that makes sense too.

But, books aside, the bulk of canon shows that blaster's projectiles fire far slower than do firearms.
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Can I just use a Mass Effect M-920 Cain against a Force User?
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>>44607093
There are no longer levels of canon. You either accept disney canon or legends canon.
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>>44607108
Then the muh-sooper fast blasters are right out.
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>>44607106
If you want overkill I guess.

Get to DMC first so you have the infinite bullets shenanigans.
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>>44607106
HK suggests that AoE attacks are the way to go. He doesn't explicitly state that, but when he discusses how to hunt Jedi he lists a series of AoE weapons.
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>>44607106
Literally just use a bit of nerve gas. Preferably the kind that just requires skin contact. They'll be incapacitated and then dead in less than a minute. Just remember to wear full body protection and a respirator or just be a robot.
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>>44607106
If you had some type of siren-style attack, sound-based that either did physical or psychic damage, then that'd probably be a pretty solid approach as well.
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>>44607125
If you choose Disney canon, then you don't have any info on any of it.
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>>44607242
You have what's on the screen: slow moving blaster bolts.
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>>44607106
>Basic forceuser's power - telekinesis and precognition
>ballistic weapon
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>>44607370
Blasters are no different, and Kylo Ren is the first Force user we've seen hold a projectile in mid flight.

What's the upper limit for that ability? Could he hold a wall of incoming rounds, ala Neo? The point isn't to sling one powerful blast at a jedi, but to overwhelm the jedi with more than he or she can deal with.
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>>44607370
>Precognition

>They can see the endless storm of Cain rounds bombarding from afar.

>and can only affect a few of them at a time.
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>>44607407
Kylo Ren's trick is a baby bitch's imitation of Vader just vaporizing blaster bolts. He can't manage that, so he has to physically hold it and look like a dumbfuck in the process.
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>>44606836
You get the free 3x 200cp powers, free Melee Training, and free basic skills/powers. However the only discounts you get are additional lightsabers and Headhunter starship.

So it works itself out, seeing you get like 600cp worth of free stuff.
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>>44607439
"Master, I sense the Force is trying to tell me something."
>"What is it, Padawan?"
"Something about no lube?"
>Explosions
>Death
>laughingmichaelbaymakesthegdpofcanadaagain.mny
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>>44607407
>upper limit
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>>44607509
And?
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>>44607106
>>44607040
>>44607032
>>44607022
>>44606998
>>44606949

Shotguns, proximity grenade launchers, missile launchers (on a proximity fuse), sonic weapons, flamethrowers, tesla guns, and chemical throwers are the way to go when directly confronting Force users.

HK said it best though, ambushes and large scale destruction are the most surefire way to knock off a Sith or Jedi.


After all, pre-cog is useless when you can't escape the attack you've foreseen.
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Gun wankery is always annoying.
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>>44607566
>I dislike it when we discuss things that challenge my headcanon and canonfu.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmJqgdaTArM
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>>44607602
Nah it's just that /k/ likes to come into settings and be all "GUNS ARE THE BEST I WANT ONLY GUNS GUNS WILL BEAT ANYTHING" and it's kinda tiring.
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So how dangerous is PS238? Because the perks look absolutely amazing, but I'm worried the death-risk scales accordingly.
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>>44607564
>HK said it best though, ambushes and large scale destruction are the most surefire way to knock off a Sith or Jedi.
Yup. Squared up fights are a suckers bet. Fairs are for ribbons, cows, and delicious yet unhealthy food, fairs are not for fights.
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Question, this is the guy who asked about blood magic last thread.

Besides continuing that question about what forms of blood magic are there that are obtainable, suppose I was an idjit and already jumped Darkstalkers a while back - and when Cursed instead of Blooded, thus not obtaining the blood form.

Is there any possible way one could emulate that or mimic that off the top of your heads? I might try to combo into it but any corners I can cut will be useful.
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What is the survivability in the one piece jump?
also if i have stasis pods do i get free background or is it drop in only?
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>>44607623
Fair enough.

But I saw it more as the typical out of universe solution to an in-universe problem. Much like being a psionic or a wizard in a gritty realistic jump, it gives you an edge that other people aren't planning on.
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>>44607639

It also really depends on the abilities of the Jedi you are fighting as seen here.

>>44607604
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>>44607681
Well, sure, there are always going to be exceptions to the rule, just as there are going to be general rules. Only a Sith deals in absolutes.
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>>44607604
>lances
>speeder-bike jousting

But. But why though.
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>>44607780

Star wars is so advanced that old styles of fighting become useful again
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>>44607643
Horror movie has a perk that gives you an extraordinary amount of blood and Deadman Wonderland has a similar perk. Couple both of those with some regeneration perks and you should have tons of blood on hand to do your magic with.

Again, I'd recommend Camin Sorcery for your blood magic base, as it is powerful, scale-able, and you can use the blood of your enemies to power your stuff too. Just make sure grab blood from sapient, as that's it's only caveat. Otherwise you're only limited by the amount of blood you have on hand.

Combined with Blood Magic from Dragon Age, for instance, should let you summon a literal army of Fade demons or hilariously overcharge other magical attacks and effects, as Dragon Age blood magic can be used to cast magic from health/blood instead of mana.
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>>44607604
>>44607780
also why the fuck would that lightsaber get stuck when the blade isn't even physical.

>>44607839
What. How does.
I'm questioning fiction again damn it I need to stop doing that.
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>>44607912
Well in Dune it's because they invented shields that can block anything moving too fast and that go nuclear with lasers.
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>>44607839
Trench warfare is still a viable strategy in most instances because its simple and basically everyone has machine guns, and few people have tanks
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>>44607912
Iirc lightsabers have a field containing the plasma so it can be physically resisted to a point.
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>>44607944
See, I can get that logic in Dune. Even if it's only used so that the author can have sword-fighting in space.

BUT WHY SPEEDERBIKE JOUSTING.

The lances also have muzzle openings that indicate they have secondary blaster usage. Why not blast.
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>>44607912

It's an energy shield anon and remember that they are fighting with swords again and also trench fighting happens regularly
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>>44607968
The pervasive nature of air and space craft capable of serving in an attack role argue strongly against that.
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>>44607968
Dont forget bombing runs and napalm.
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>>44607983

Anon they are laser lances they are like powerful torches
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>>44607968
>trench warfare is viable
>orbital bombardment exists
You are legit retarded.
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>>44607370
The Cain's not a ballistic weapon. Cut Codex entries from ME2 show that it was originally planned to be a directed energy weapon instead of a railgun, and this was retconned back to being canon in ME3. It shoots dark energy blasts, basically a technological version of the Warp power that biotic classes can use. I can't even guess how that would interact with someone trying to block it with a lightsaber.
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>>44607983
The animators wanted to include speederbike jousting.
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>>44608025

Anon this isn't 40k you don't just orbital strike every where
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>>44607912
>why the fuck would that lightsaber get stuck when the blade isn't even physical

Maybe it has to do with the containment field around the plasma stream?

As for "old school" tech used to defeat fancy new tech, well, none of it is exactly "old school".

Power weapons are a thing, as are coilguns and rialguns. Repulsor and gravity manipulation tech married to advanced alloys and powerful heat dispersion tech make for really damn powerful kinetic weapons.

Vibroweapons can withstand lightsaber attacks, for instance, and I'm never quite sure why that tech wasn't applied to armor as well.

90% of Star Wars armies are based around energy weapons, so good kinetic weapons can get around most forms of defense.

It's the exact opposite for Mass Effect weapons and tech, which are geared to repel kinetic attacks but offer little to no protection from energy weapons.

Actually, using tech from one series to attack the other is totally viable as far as strategies go.
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>>44608061
If your enemy is dug in, and you have ships in space, why would you bother with something so expensive and drawn out as trench warfare when you can use the ultimate high ground and just bomb them into submission?
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>>44608061
They don't orbital strike everywhere in 40k, because typically they don't want to destroy the structures on the planet. But really because it wouldn't make sense for a wargame about a battlefield to have orbital strikes being a primary means of battle.
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>>44608084

The same reason armies just don't drop nukes everywhere
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>>44606836
No discounts on Force Powers.

The Vong have biotechnology capable of standing up against mechanical weaponry, giant colony ships, terraforming tech that can quickly transform the environment of a planet. They're powerful but the Republic and Confederacy could definitely beat them if they worked together.

The invasion occurs immediately.

Yes.

>>44607638
There's at least one alien invasion and few merciless villians who have no qualms with harming kids but you should be ok, the main characters deal with all the major threats. And as always follow the golden rule of superhero setting, don't do anything stupid.
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>>44608110

Exterminus seems to get thrown about at a drop of a hat
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>>44608084
Not him, but:
Heavy shields, maybe you're being engaged in space, maybe there's heavy anti-space weaponry in orbit or on the ground, your troops may be in close proximity, there may be no ships designed for orbital bombardment so any effort would be wildly inaccurate.

And I just came up with those on the spot, I'm sure there's many more specific in-universe reasons.
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>>44608070
Are they suppose to be Knights of Ren? They look like Galactor minion rejects.
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>>44608153

You are right about that they have planetary shields and and ship weapons but most ships can bomb planets when needed but it destroys so much they only do it when needed.
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>>44608025
I was referring to the Real World.
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>>44608114
That's not an answer.

Nuclear weapons have considerations that high altitude strikes do not. You don't have fallout with orbital bombardment, and presumably you aren't doing it at home so the immediate political fallout is negligible.

>>44608153
Still, trench warfare is not viable when air power is ubiquitous. That isn't to say that it wouldn't happen occasionally in a shitty situation, such as you've described, but an evolving shitty situation that you make the best of is not strategy.
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>>44608140
It really isn't though, you need an Inquisitor, Chapter Master, High Lord Admiral, or Lord Commander to order it. And it's meant only to be done when there is no reasonable expectation of salvaging the planet. They'll leave an Ork infestation on a planet if it's valuable enough.
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>>44608199
>I was referring to the Real World.
Then you're a triple retard. Trench warfare, WWI style en masse trench warfare, makes no damn sense in a contemporary setting.

All the comments above about air power hold, and the prevalence of armor that can easily defeat small arms makes just hanging out with machine guns and firing lines a bad idea.

Yes, Enter and Clear a Trench is a battle drill that most big armies practice, but even as you train for that you understand that its highly unlikely that you'd do that because air power.
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Cool, sounds like it really is the containment field that causes the physical resistance, I wasn't quite sure. Anyways this >>44608084 leads into why planetary bombardment isn't always a viable strategy.

Planetary shielding is a thing, as is large scale ground shielding. There are 2 main types of shielding in Star Wars: Ray and Particle.

>Ray Shields
Specifically designed to block energy attacks only. Solid objects can penetrate the shield. Spaceships, vehicles, and personal shields used these, as did some ground installations.

>Particle Shields
These stop everything, but they are complete power hogs. Planetary Shields were all of this type.
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>>44608200

>Nuclear weapons have considerations that high altitude strikes do not. You don't have fallout with orbital bombardment,

Have you seen what happened to taris when they bombed it?, and besides your job is to take the planet not blow it to kingdom come not to mention all the civlian casualties.

>and presumably you aren't doing it at home so the immediate political fallout is negligible.

Anon I don't think senators would like their planet being bombed anon, do you know anything about star wars?

>>44608242

I guess I was only thinking about nid infestations
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>>44608140
Not really. Exterminatus is only rarely used unless your name is Kryptman, and he got into major trouble for the sheer number of them.
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>>44608304
Typically if you are losing against the nids, the planet will end up worse off than most forms of Exterminatus. An Exterminatus may boil the oceans, but the oceans are still there in the planet's atmosphere, and they will return to the ground in time, the nids take the oceans with them when they leave.
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>semi-unrelated
So, /jc – the dark days have come. Netflix is now available in Russia.

What the hell do I watch?
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>>44608115
Thanks for the info KOTOR. Looks like I'll be loading up on drawbacks to afford picking up Force Lightning again.

What kind of boost are we looking at if we buy the same powers in KotOR and Clone Wars? I'm assuming however much of a boost this is, it also applies to the "free" standard Force powers we get too (mind trick, force speed, telepathy, telekinesis, etc)

I really want to go full Sith Sorcerer here.
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>>44608254
The Syrian civil war called. Welcome to the world of abundant RPG negating cold war era armor
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>>44608070
>Vibroweapons can withstand lightsaber attacks, for instance, and I'm never quite sure why that tech wasn't applied to armor as well.
It'd be awful trying to wear armor that constantly vibrates.
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>>44608345
Glitter Force.
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>>44608493

Vibro weapons have some cortorsis weaved into them
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>>44608510
>Not the original
>Not recommending the House of Cards to a russian
Come now. You had such an opportunity, and to waste it on THAT travesty?
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>>44608623
Beasts of no Nation would also work
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>>44608345
Daredevil, it's one of the best things Marvel's done in a while. Kingpin in particular is amazing.
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>>44608351
Basic powers and powers that you purchase again will be doubled in strength.
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>>44607654
One Piece is shonen bullshit, but less bullshit then some other shonen.
Companions, podded or otherwise, only get backgrounds/points if you import them.
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>>44608534
Cortosis-Weave Armor was a thing, but it's extremely rare and hard to mine, and also amazingly lethal in high quantities.
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>>44608345
The Flash, Arrow, Jessica Jones-

Really, anything superhero-related that's on Netflix seems to be pretty good.

...Except for the Iron Man anime.
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>>44608715
Also Jessica Jones is pretty good too, if you skip past the three sex scenes. Seriously they have three damn sex scenes like one after the other. The first one is pretty long too, like 2 minutes.
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>>44607564
> YOU'RE BEING SUCH A BITCH, VERA.
> You just threatened to break my neck, what were you expecting me to do?
> BLUE WOULDN'T FLIP ME OVER AND GUT ME LIKE THIS.
> Blue puts up with a whole lot more of your shit than you deserve.
> Are you just gonna let her get away with this, Gismor?!
> Malefor, your ego is writing cheques your body can't cash.

Wow. I just had this weird image flash through my head.
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>>44609126
Arrow went to shit in the second season. Arguably like three-fourths of the way through the first.
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>>44607654
In case you didn't know, you can always bring 8+pods companions into the world, imports just get them new stuff and a history. You may use the Warehouse swap out which eight non-pod companions are active. Finally companions respawn in 48 hours if normal, one week for pods. They forget the last 30 minutes before death.
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>>44608365
>Welcome to the world of arabs sucking at war
FTFY
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>>44608365
Sure, but how well will those RPGs work against high altitude bombers or fast attack aircraft?
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>>44608910
That sounds awesome! I can't wait to sling horrible eldritch lightning.

With Weather Control and a double dose of Force Lightning, I should be able to do some crazy stuff. Add in some Age of Ice Air magic, and I should be able to conjour some wonderfully destructive storms.

I can supercharge the clouds with additional lightning, then call down one massive bolt to waste my targets.

Or, I can have the clouds fry any air power that might be in the area.

Using rain to detect enemy movement and positions should work too, especially for long range wide area lightning strikes.

I will have so much fun with this.
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>>44605483
need spice and wolf
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>>44609201
I feel the Arrow tries too hard to be gritty and real. Green Arrow doesn't seem to really have a lot of rogues, and they seem to have made him Not-Batman, but with 200% drama. I think the creators have started to notice this and with the Flash's huge success they seem to be trying to slowly introduce more comic-booky feeling.
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>>44609426
We all do, anon
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>>44605753
All its benefits combined in a single perk? I don't think so. But if you're just seeking the memory part, then the Star Wars Old Republic jump is a bargain with Enhanced Memory ("perfect photographic memory and instant mental recall") for a mere 100cp.

Oh, and you get to visit the Old Republic too.
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>>44607844
>Horror Movie - Bleeder
>Deadman Wonderland - Bloody

Sweet, so I did remember to grab them.

>Canim Sorcery

Will need to grab this, and I think the jump has a jar that refills with whatever blood's stored in it.

>Dragon Age Blood Magic

... Damn I forgot about this.
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>>44609426
Please let me know of a jump where i can __be__ the Holo or a Holo type being.
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>>44609751
Be more descriptive. There's a couple ways to take that.
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>>44609751
Fluffy? Easy, all over the place.
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>>44609806
A jump where I can be a cute, vaguely monster looking person who assists a companion in his or her job with my extremely effective abilities. In-between trolling, eating confections, and generally making huge amounts of money. Actual divinity optional.
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What is the best way to make an entrance and why does it involve lightning?
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>>44609967
Riding a lightning bolt out of a storm, ofcourse.
And because lightning is best element.
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>>44609906
Metavore for the candy
Inukami and or Okami for the fluff
Sherlock jump, Watson tree for friend buffing
I can't remember where to get cute from, I go more for powerful and sexy. Konata rocks cute, though, so she should be able to help there.
Hero and Demon King for economic knowledge, and Gargoyles for business acumen.

There ya go.
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>>44609906
Golden Sky Stories seems to fit your criteria nearly perfectly.
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>>44610054
I keep meaning to read that jump.
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>>44610013
Thank you! I really appreciate the detail.

>>44610054
That sounds pretty fantastic! I'll give it a read.
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>>44609986
Benjamin Franklin pls go.
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>>44610337
Can we keep Tesla at least?
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>>44608030
This. I liked the animation style, it had a serious Samurai Jack vibe in parts, but when I saw those lances I had to remind my inner jumper (before he could go off on a rant about cavalry charging a line of automatic weaponry) that it's a G-rated kids show.
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>>44610430
You ask me, Kenobi and the other troopers were just waiting for someone to give them the excuse. I mean, speedbikers you can imagine troopers keeping in stock, but lances as well? The training to joust?

I'm just imagining off-screen the Republic troopers and Kenobi were rushing to their bikes in barely-contained glee, giddy that someone was finally stupid enough to justify them carrying enough lances for the entire regiment. Plus they get to mock the other Jedi now because 'HA HA WE GOT TO USE OURS'.
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>>44610263
I should mention, Metavore is found in the Bodymod supplement.
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>>44609126
>checks netflix
... dammit still no The Flash yet in Australia.
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>>44610547
>soldiers get cool gear with limited, if questionable, use
>find a reason to use it anyway
Can confirm, this is exactly how soldiers think and operate. I had a team leader who, once we got in country and started doing raids, refused to see if doors were locked or unlocked. He always wanted to stack and use breeching charges. He can't hear for shit now, but he still swears it was worth it.

So, yeah, that's a pretty legit way of looking at it.
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>>44610547
That's pretty much accurate. Do you have any idea how many munitions were expended for largely shits and giggles with the most mediocre excuse because no one wants to lug that shit around in the desert heat for eighteen hours?

That time a donkey jockey with an AK ate a javelin was hilarious though. Completely worth every penny of that multi-thousand missile.
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>>44610726
>refused to see if doors were locked or unlocked
>He always wanted to stack and use breeching charges
That seems like a good way to kill a couple civilians
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>>44610936
We didn't do soft raids, but if not for that then I'd agree with you.
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I have grown bored with my chain, and decided to restart from jump 2 on-words.

Jump #02: Splinter Cell
Name: Diamond Paige
Age:30
Location: CIA, United States
Origin: Insurgent
Gender: Female

-Perks-
Dead Drops (Free)
Politically Correct (-150CP)
Glass Dagger (-300CP)
All Angle's Accounted For (-600CP)
Spec-Ops Training (-100CP)

-Companions-
Blaze
Atmos

-Items-
Anonymizing Handle (Free)
Technical (-50CP)
Black Book (-100CP)


-Drawbacks-
Three Alarms (+200CP)
Disavowed (+300CP)
Snarky Handlers (+100CP)

So, from what I know, the Splinter Cell series is about this super special secret agent man? Anyways, I do my best to avoid him and spend most of my time planning and committing crimes.
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>>44609214
Guess i misunderstood the additional rules on pastebin. I always thought you had to pay for import if you wanted any allies with you.
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>>44610680
That sucks, you're really missing out. First season was a blast. Second season so far is living up to the hype. It also has Mark Hamil, who said more lines than he did in VII.
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>>44611424
>First season was a blast
Yeah, I'm about half way through it and it's too much fun. It's a good blend of grim and fun. Honestly, I think it's the best thing DC has done since DCAU. Nolan aside, that is.

Arrow is fun, too, but it seems like they weren't sure on what direction to take it. It's more like a typical CW Pretty People with Gritty Problems show, whereas The Flash is out and out cape and mask.

Both would be great jumps.
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>>44611511
The fights between The Flash and Prof. Zoom are pretty fuckin' sweet.
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>>44610726
>>44610935
This makes me incredibly giddy to hear and for the life of me I cannot figure out why.

You two are awesome. Keep being awesome.
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>>44610935
>donkey jockey with an AK ate a javelin was hilarious though
Wait. Were you there for that? We RIP'd the unit that did that!
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>>44611684
Love you too, sempai; you're bro tier.
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>>44610726
>clapistanis pay taxes for this
s m h t b m f a m
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>>44612118
Shit, I remember watching that happen on TV.
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>>44612118
>>44612146
>Off topic
Read an interesting, read: sad, bit about how Golden Shield blocks anything about this inside China. The article went on about how locals have tried different ways of searching for it, and the governments attempts to continue to block searches. Crazy Orwellian shit.
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>>44612146
Tell me about the cold war gramps, did they really teach you to duck and cover?
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>>44612224
Not that old, so no.
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>>44612118
>implying that isn't an excellent use of tax money.
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>>44611281
Nah, though that's a common misconception for starting jumpers. Back when I was joining imports were few and far between so it was a lot clearer.
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>>44612213
Most of the barriers can be broken through simply by using a free DNS server instead of one of the Party-approved DNS servers. But I'm not surprised in the slightest that there are added protections for bright moments in history like your pic, or the Great Leap Forward and Cultural Revolution.
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>>44612313
>Cultural revolution
I think you mean the Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution, comrade.
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Is there a more up to date list jumps that the one drive?
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>>44612313
>Great Leap Forward
That's an interesting period in history that not too many people in the US know about. Some of the decisions were just staggeringly horrible.

>Back on topic
So could you do a generic revolution jump? Something that allowed you to jump into periods of significant socio-political upheaval?
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>>44612452
Wasn't someone doing something like that?
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>>44612602
Really? Do you know who?
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if I used dark binding on a stand user would they be able to use it or no ?
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>>44612779
They'd be able to use it.
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>>44612766
No idea. It was discussed by an anon some time ago but I don't know if anything ever came of it or it's been abandoned.
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>>44612812
well time for nommin on a DIO
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>>44612860
>Dark Binding DIO
>letting DIO inside your soul

This is a Bad Idea.
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>>44613116
well if you immediately used him to fuel alchemy or some other thing that proceeded to eliminate the soul, perhaps it would be less insanely stupid
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>>44613116
I don't understand why anon wants the D inside them this badly but hey, their choice.
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>>44612860
Sometimes....

Sometimes just because you can eat something, doesn't mean you should, or that it's in any way good for you.
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>>44613116
>>44613222
are you saying yu don't want a litte brando in you besides honestly whats the worst he can do
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>>44613309
Taking over your soul or perhaps be something someone could pull from you? Just random ideas.
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>>44613252
bu but anon hasn't worse things been eaten through dark binding through by a jumper ?
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>>44613330
power of dominance + dark binding is better than just dark binding I may have some bad ideas sometimes but you always prepare for the worst right?
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>>44613116
The perk says wicked souls can't affect you.
Pretty sure DIO counts as wicked.
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Who's this Tera guy I hear so much about?
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Alright, so. I know fuck-all about Warhammer 40K.

Is the God-Emperor alive enough that force feeding him the Golden Apple from Castlevania and/or all of Miracle Max's Medicines from Princess Bride would heal him?

What would even happen if it worked? Would it be worth the trouble of getting to the Imperial Palace and sneaking into the throne room?

Should I even bother with any of this? I have no attachment to 40K's humanity whatsoever. Or anything in that horrid universe, really.
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>>44607623
Brother!
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>>44613482
He has some Chaos fuckery going on, so powerful enough to do that and bring back the shattered pieces of his Psyche and soul.
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>>44613116
>Not letting Lord Ascended DIO into your heart
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>>44613419
are all the jojo antagonists wicked while im there I might aswell go for broke in collecting villains
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>>44613599
Our Lord and Savior President Valentine is a noble and righteous soul who only wanted to make America prosperous and great.
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>>44613482
1. Maybe not but his soul is scattered into a million piece in the warp if I recall some lore
Also it might not even be the God-Emperor on the throne but his son Horus.
2. The Imperial Palace has the most powerful stuff defending it. I think it has two warhound titans defending it's gates and the Costudes that are defending the place. Not counting the Imperial Fleet hovering over terra.

3. Personally I'd say not but the place is fucked anyway because of forces like Chaos, and the Nids that are slowly invading the galaxy which if i recall is nothing more than a recon force for the main fleet.
I only know bits and pieces from what people have told be but this is just my piece.
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>>44613543
my body isn't ready to deal with eyes of heaven DIO I don't even know if my rquiem will be enough but im curious too see what he did to reach heaven and maybe if I can do that with my stand
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>>44613471
He's Bancho Anon, for ages he went by Teratophilia OP. People still refer to him as that despite the subsequent name change when it finally got it through his thick skull that defining his identity as his disgusting fetish was a bad idea. They're effectively interchangeable.
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>>44613650
didn't he shoot the absolute fuck outta that civil war dude and threaten an innocent person?
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>>44613705
It was self-defense and for the greater good, respectively, you treasonous fool.

On a more serious note, Whammu and Esidisi are pretty pure-hearted people for the fact that they eat people for a living.
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What's a good relatively safe jump that can give me weapons to fight giant monsters with?
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>>44613705
Oh, sure, Valentine does some scummy stuff. But it's because of cynicism, not wickedness. He's not doing bad things because he enjoys it, like Dio or Kira or Diavolo. He just does it because it fulfills his goals. He's actually a fairly decent person, just a ruthless one. Hell, in Eyes of Heaven he actually works with the heroes against DIO, and blames himself for his inadvertent role in the events that led to Dio acquiring the Corpse Parts and becoming DIO.
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>>44613901
hmm he seems like an ok dude I need to read steel ballrun too bad I got stuck in phantom blood helping a patriot realize his dreams just makes sense to me.
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>>44613846
Lost Valley of the Dinosaurs
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>>44613846
What sort of weapons, how giant are the monsters, does your chain have a "must keep things interesting" requirement and if so what counts as interesting?
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>>44613362
More powerful? Certainly. Worse? It's hard to say.

It's really hard to say.


If the anon really, absolutely wants to om-nom Dio's soul, then to be safe they should at least be 2x as old and have extensive practice and perks dealing with soul stuff.

At the minimum.
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>>44613673
Well, you really don't have to face him. Eyes Of Heaven isn't canon, it's its own thing. Kinda like Jorge Joestar, and the Kars coalition of Mars.
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>>44613951
Steel Ball Run is a grey world. Valentine's brave, determined, and is fighting for something greater than himself and is willing to sacrifice himself for his plan that will make America the most fortunate nation in all of the world.

Problem is, he's also a murderous pedophile-y asshole who uses murder as the way to get rid of even the most minor speed bumps in his plan (like an injured captain on his boat), and this plan is at the cost of every other nation, hundreds of innocent lives in America, and Johnny's legs, and Johnny isn't too keen on any of that.
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>>44614161
And alas, we're never going to get an Eyes Of Heaven update to JoJo.
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So what are the best jumps/perks for rabble-rousing? I want to be able to call up rebellion by the time I hit Familiar of Zero.
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>>44614129
Weapons I can reproduce with science! Handheld, vehicle mounted, or fixed position are fine, mostly things regular people could use.

I sort of consider there to be a 'must keep things interesting' thing, but that can be 'slice of life' interesting as well, given some of the jumps that exist.

The monsters in question are large enough to take down buildings by leaning on them, and probably too big to live in the real world.
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>>44614242
Spread communist teaching throughout the setting and find a way for the commoners to be able to fight the magic users.
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>>44614242
Total War actually has some pretty good perks for it on the Independent tree.
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>>44614132
sounds like an idea.>>44614161
that's good I don't wanna get rekt by DIO
>>44614200
that is quite the predicament but surley he can be persuaded to tone down the fuckery.
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>>44614242
I remember A Song of Ice and Fire having one. Here it is.

Rabblerouser
You have an uncommon ability to mobilize the masses. Whether for religion, gold or bread you find it reasonably easy to instigate a full massive revolt against all but the most beloved of rulers.
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>>44614242
Tactically, try what >>44614299 said while also finding a magic system that's teachable (maybe D&D's wizardry?) to prove to them that they have as much power as nobles.

Also, total war and Sabaton have some pretty good perks.
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>>44614242
A Song of Ice and Fire has a capstone made for instigating revolutions that is literally called Rabblerouser. The origin that discounts it has some other neat perks too.

Just. Keep in mind that there's an apocalypse coming up and a giant dragon that's pretty much a boss fight for the Void Mages. Might want to make sure you can deal with that shit yourself, if you want the lower classes to prosper and aren't causing the revolution for shits and giggles.
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>>44614331
Eh, his entire stick only works from a certain point of view. The US becomes rich, but everywhere else is in a eternal state of poverty.
Not to mention this all requires the kidnapping and painful death of a 14-year old girl.

The plan itself is flawed, but Valentine himself may be redeemed if you can convince him to lose the cynicism that leads him to see the plan as necessary.
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Has anyone figured a way to revive the Emperor? His body would be easy, for sure. But what about his soul? Perhaps Tzeentch would assist in gathering soulbits throughout the warp? Or perhaps Khorne, knowing that insane amounts of death, destruction, and warfare would be the result of another crusade?

Once the soulbits are all gathered, mending it should be possible with enough soul manipulation perks, right?
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>>44614395
>implying I won't press the void mages into service of the people
From each according to their ability, comrade. We'll give their family an armed guard for protection and... motivation.
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>>44614275
Let's try this slightly differently. Where can an early jumper get or learn to make weapons that normal people could use to fight giants and kaiju and things of that nature?
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>>44614466
Why revive when you can replace?
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>>44614466
You're a retard if you ask the Chaos Gods for help.
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Atomic robo/B.R.P.D jump when?
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>>44614696
I've been thinking of doing an Atomic Robo jump. If I do it I'm probably going to wait for Ring of Fire to be over first, though.
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>>44614747
>ring of fire
My negro
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Is it just me, or is Doctor Who the most low key high-powered jump in the drive?

I mean, Time lords are dimension-destroying levels of OP. Like, the doctor's TARDIS, considered a museum piece, to normal TARDISes as a wagon is to a Mercedes, could theoretically burn a solar system for fuel. Modern war-TARDISes can trash entire timelines. The only reason Time Lords even have the DALEKS as rivals is because the Doctor fucked up and it turned out to be a static point in time, the kind you can't change without disintegrating the continuum.
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>>44614781
It's been a fun arc. Though I personally feel like the whole Longinus thing is kind of phoned in. I'm sick of seeing yet another leftover Nazi superscience project. Didn't any other regimes make superscience weapons? Robo's 92 years old, not everything has to be stuff from back when he was a teenager. I'm just hoping that some of the "to be made into arcs later" sections on the timeline will be stuff other than Nazis. Spear of Destiny is probably something to do with Longinus, and therefore more Nazi tech, but maybe Diamonds Are For Never, Mirrorshade Overdrive or Soldiers of Fortune will be someone else.
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The diner was lively, but that was to be expected of New York. Sliding into a booth near the back, I mumble to Jibril letting her decide on the order. Thinking about what was in store didn't leave me in a bright mood. Skimming the data pad I refreshed myself on the setting. It hadn't been my favorite, and after a point I had just put it down for it's nonsense. Feeling a tap on my head, Gaia is leaning over the back booth wanting to know what's wrong. While I could admire the sight all day, I don't get a chance to do even that before everything gets worse.

A cheerful tone chirps from the datapad as MAIDn pushes her way into the screen seeking my attention. When I see it my stomach drops through the floor. Her appearance has been noticeably changed, in a disturbingly familiar way. With the force of an hydrogen bomb, true instincts kick in screaming to cover the damn thing with the damming realization of why. She fucking /knows/. I've been undone by my own choices before the game even began, and this is what I reap.

Determined to try, I fling myself as fast as my muscles allow covering the files. It isn't enough to muffle the query that turns my lively table of companions quiet.

"Master, don't you like the new visuals? I tailored it from the material on your hidden folders and made a composite. If there is something wrong I can change it? We can go through the diagrams and cliff not-"

It had to be her, I thought. Of course it was MAIDn who gained Programming and Computer Science.

Sasuga, Worm. Nothing is sacred, including the lewd folder. Especially my lewd folder.
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>>44614890
You also don't get access to anything beyond the Sonic Screwdriver because you have to play by the Doctor's rules.

Which, frankly, is actually fine. I like screwdrivers, they're useful.
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>>44610337
gender bent Franklin was my fate servant
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>>44614587
I'm not retarded, I'm a jumper, silly!

And don't the Chaos Gods have politics of their own? That's why they have champions and forces, to spread their aspect.
>>44614525
Does the emperor even still have DNA to copy? Would it be better to just get the memories of those still alive and make a fabrication of that?

All this said, would the willing ritual sacrifice of many overtly powerful human psykers create a new Emperor-tier human? or was that just a one time thing
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>>44614503
Nanoha for high powered magical death. LoSS for a huge dragon form and strong elemental magic. Or, if you feel a little more daring, head to Mass Effect for the Cain and other man portable anti-ship/robo-cthulhu weapons. Just make sure you can run away to a remote planet while the Reapers invade.

You might not need to do that if you manage to rally the various races to stand together, but that's a long shot, especially as a new jumper.
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>>44614924
Your screwdriver is also barely functional. Basically just an actual screwdriver. If you like them that's fine but you can't do any of the fancy stuff the Doctor does with his.
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I want to be the best magical girl ever, but I have never watched a magical girl anime. What are the best settings?
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>>44615070
Do visit: Symphogear, Generic Magical Girl, Nanoha

Maybe visit: Sailor Moon

Don't visit unless you enjoy suffering: Madoka, Magical Girl Noir Quest
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>>44615022
Then why not ask the doctor for one?
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>>44615093
Don't listen to this anon Madoka and MGNQ are very good worlds for being a magical girl.
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>>44614480
>We'll give their family an armed guard for protection and... motivation.
That's going to work on... maybe one of them. Maybe.
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>>44615099
The jump explicitly states he won't let you get your hands on tech and will go so far as using the TADRIS' translation circuit to make sure you can't understand any of the science used.

I wouldn't bet on him letting you get things even if you leave him and make your own way through the universe - others have still had the translation feature running even after they stop following him.
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>>44615099
What >>44615175 said, with the addition that if you're with any doctor pre-Nine, you run the risk of getting the shit kicked out of you if you're too persistent.

>Exhibit A:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNuHV-iLBRw
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>>44614924
Honestly? I can understand the limitation. The tech there is fucking insane, and it's easy as piss to break pretty much everything in the chain in half with it.

But as it stands, I will never take that jump without having a way of bypassing all language barriers, heavy duty mind rape, and the mental fortitude to survive forcing my way into the brains of some Cybermen and Daleks.

It's not that I even really want that technology, or will actually do anything with it. It's that by stopping me from doing it from the get go, in my mind, the jump itself is challenging me to do it.

And I'm not going to backdown.
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>>44615022
>>44615099
The jump gives you an old one the doctor lost, its's the same thing, it works the same way, it just lacks the "programming" to do perform the more advanced functions, you can add that in yourself, you just need to figure it out yourself.
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>>44615099
Pretty much, the entire jump is set up so that you get absolutely jack shit out of going there and that it has nothing of value. Just skip it for your own sake, anon.
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>>44615248
No, pretty sure it states he ripped out most of the mechanics.
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>>44615275
That's the Vortex Manipulator.
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>>44615248
I know, but he stops you learning the science you'd need to do so, and there's no guarantees you'd have the parts needed to do so in other universes due to most DW tech running on particles and energies unique to DW.

>>44615275
That's the Vortex Manipulator, the thing Jack used to time travel and as his Sonic Screwdriver stand in during torchwood.
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>>44615130
Kyubey please go.
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>>44615313
Kyubey? More like Kyuteby
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>>44615238
An admirable sentiment. How do you plan to get around the universe/timeline?
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>>44615253
The perks are decent enough. Not worth the price of admission, but nice.
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>>44615427
Wouldn't say so, didn't see anything that stood out.
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>>44615253
>Not jumping doctor who just to be able to travel with the Doctor for 10 years
I would do it even if I got 0cp to start and couldn't take drawbacks. Shit sounds like fun.
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>>44615501
Dude's a cunt if he's fucking with my brain so much.
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Night Angel soon!
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Did someone ever make a Pact jump? With how often people talk of Worm you would someone would have made it.
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>>44615550
Let's not go to Pact, 'tis a silly place.
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>>44615550
>>44615562
Pact is what happens when someone looks at 40k and goes "not grimdark enough".
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>>44615547
Night Angel now!
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>>44615130
>MGNQ
Dis wurld da beast!
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>>44615583
>>44615594
>Says Pact is too edgy
>Someone immediately posts Night Angel
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>>44615594
I've never heard of this place what is it about?
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>>44615682
An angel that operates between the hours of 2000 and 0400
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>>44615682
Politics, Magic, Assassins
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>>44615721
Where can I get one? Sounds so much better than the ones in NGE with their bizarre working schedule.
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>>44615682
Ok let me phrase this differently what is this setting about and the world like? I know nothing about this world.
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>>44615594
holy shit that 300cp meister perk. also it needs a name. those constructs might be a little over the top
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Question to the anon who made Sword Art Online:

If I share the perk "This Is My Final Form" with Companions with a method like Medaka Box's "Lip Service," they do the form swap nonsense, and then I take the perk back will all of that be undone?
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>>44613846
>>44614503
Pokemon
>To fight monsters, we trained monsters of our own.
Still mad about Pacific Rim 2

>>44614747
Do you want my notes?
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>>44615379
Well.

Two big plans: Not telling the Doctor what I'm doing while going neener-neener or travelling with the War Doctor.

The first is easy enough, if a crapshoot about what I get. And there's the real risk of him finding out. Doubt that'll turn out great for me.

The second will get me access to other time lords. Ones that aren't pretty much holding the universe together by themselves. But that's ridiculously dangerous and, while not requiring it, doing it without supplementary perks to hide from authority and be protected from temporal fuckery would lead to bad times.

...Then again. If you take the fluff literally, rather than as a Benefactor mandated limitation, there's the small possibility of him deciding to let you learn so you can better help in the war.
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>>44615813
No, I'm not certain that I'm going to make it. I have trouble following through on my projects. I wouldn't want to waste your time.
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>>44615682
It's from night angel trilogy where the economy takes the background to suffering, and most minor characters in it get killed, raped, turned into a statue, turned into a statue and raped, raped and turned into a statue; or killed, raped and turned into a statue.pretty much all pov characters survive without this happening to them bar some angst. The main charecter and his girlfriend and his best bud are all mary/marty sues/stues.
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>>44615756
>Where can I get one? Sounds so much better than the ones in NGE with their bizarre working schedule.
Craigslist if you're on the cheap, but Monster.com has some contenders if you're willing to pay.
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>>44615594
Should mention this is my first jump, and it's probably going to get reworked a bit, but right now I'm taking in opinions.
>>44615770
It's pretty much about what I said, politics, magic, and assassins, and this guy beat me to a more in-depth description >>44615863
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>>44615875
scratch that, that description isn't really what it's about. Here's a better one:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Night_Angel_Trilogy
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>>44615863
Obligatory request of a list of names of people to punch in the face.
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>>44615835
>Travelling with the war doctor
Senpai, even ASA pales in comparison to monstrosities like the could-have-been-king, or the Nightmare Child, things brought to the fore in the time war. It's conflict that would make The Culture decide to pick up and move to another galactic cluster. Jumpchan herself would probably laugh nervously and start skimming through universes looking for a new jumper as soon as you dropped in. If you're rolling dice to decide whether you live, travelling with the War Doctor is a minus 1-trillion, multiplied by whatever bonus you think you should have.

You Will Die, or wish you did.
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>>44615979
All the Ursulls, all of Khalidor really, their god Khali too.
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>>44615835
>traveling with the War Doctor
>access to other Time Lords
>ridiculously dangerous

That's kinda like describing the act of setting your hair on fire and running naked through a torrential downpour of dioxygen difluoride as "mildly eccentric", anon.
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>>44615990
Well, yeah.

But I considered it for about a second, so I might as well list it.

Besides, if I went with anything other than the understatements of the century when describing it, the entire post and my next 10 would have been me saying it's dangerous and a really bad idea and that I'm not going to do it.
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>>44616101
Would having your hair on fire really make much of a difference in that scenario? Dioxygen difluoride is hypergolic with flesh (and literally everything else), you're going to burn no matter what.
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The answer is probably no but is it possible for me to import my own coat into the Enchanted Duster from Dresden Files?
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>>44616189
No, very true. It was just sort of a "and a cherry on top" thing.
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>>44615594
For a first jump? Good work
Definitely needs some tuning though.
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>>44615594
Needs work on presentation, there are some grammar issues and the spacing is all over the place.
Why is the 100cp perk from one tree "you have magic" and the 100cp perk from another "you have more magic than the other perk"?
Having the capstones be just "you can use a purchaseable item" is somewhat... lacking.
The black one. Just... the black one. No. Why. Stahp.
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>>44615594
I'm reading this and generally coming to the conclusion that I don't have enough information to make decisions. Would it be possible to write in a more objective/mechanist way?
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>>44616492
in his defence, the 100cp perks were, "you have magic" and "you have more powerful magic than the first one, but it caps out much lower"
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>>44616492
>The black one. Just... the black one. No. Why. Stahp.
I mean, that is exactly what it does in the books.
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>>44616492
>>44616546

He's currently asleep right now, given how he ducked out of the IRC after the... rather vicious critique given.

At this point all we can do is tear it apart and give more critique. It's a first-timer's jump, it's going to have it's wrinkles.
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>>44616552
>and "you have more powerful magic than the first one, but it caps out much lower"
No, it says "it's harder to get started" but the other one says you don't have any training anyway.
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>>44616569
Yeah, sure, but that doesn't make it a good way to work in Jumpchain. Hell, just make it unbuyable if that's how it's going to be done, or make the resurrection only work once you spark/go home.
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>>44615594
So uh, how powerful is "God" in this case? Because that word, with the capital G, tends to be associated with omnipotence.

Also the Black Kakari... don't. Just don't.
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>>44616625
Who is Black Kakari?
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>>44615594
For a first jump it's not too problematic? The thing is, you break the atmosphere a lot whenever you put in specific references to "Out of Jump" powers, and a lot of the perks don't really give a sense of the setting for a person who has no prior understanding, they just reflect upon some changes to the jumper.

You introduce a lot of terms and jargon, but, a lot of them you only associate with a definition, without any significance. So I don't know what importance the God King really has, whether he's truly a God King or something else. (The Plural God Kings in the opening text versus a single God King in the location text and then multiple God Kings again in the 300 perk is...somewhat disorienting) I dunno the impact of the Ursull family. I dunno Sho'Fasti and Sho'Cendi's place in the universe.

So you hint at what might be a lot of depth to the setting but...there's no real draw to it.

As a jump mechanically it's workable, can make a build off of it, but some of the perks are a bit questionable. The 100 Vir perk (I thought Vir was something you were tattooed with as you said in the Meister description?) makes things very weird with "Your magic is much, much stronger than 99.99% of Mages"...because comparing that with the 600 perk of Mage that says "As long as you wield Curoch, you are singlehandedly the most powerful Mage in the world!" it makes me wonder...

How far is 99.99% away from #1?

There's some other stuff too, but yeah on an initial skim read that's all I have.
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>>44615594
I'm actually not sure how to critique this. It's a bit rough around the edges, but, uh... The perks go overboard? I spent five seconds reading the wiki and it seems like a high powered setting, but that doesn't come across very well in the jump.
The black Cuckani is gonna get criticized too, you should probably drop it.
Tone it down, I guess? I dunno.
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>>44616659
>The Black Ka’Kari is the original, the one Ezra the Mad wizard created the other 6 from. It stops your aging, provides a powerful regeneration effect, allows you to become invisible, and devours anything it touches (except you, your clothes on the other hand...), and, most importantly, by obtaining the Black Ka’Kari, you no can no longer lose Jumps by dying. Instead, the Black Ka’Kari exacts a price. A life for a life, one person you truly care about, someone you would give your life for, will die in your stead, within 6 months of your “death” returning to life, you will have NO foreknowledge of who it will take. Takes anywhere from an hour to three days, and you will simply wake up in your body. In addition, with enough time, you can eventually replicate the Black Ka’Kari and create lesser copies of it as Ezra did.
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>>44615594
Expand references to the source material. I don't know this setting at all and thus a lot of the perks and items make little to no sense. Other than that it's pretty solid. Good work on the drawback section in particular.
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Are there perks to bypass willpower based defenses, or just outright crush willpower temporarily or a willpower crusher and willpower restorer/builder?

I need to social-fu some shonen protagonists and don't want to let them bullhead through it. Fighting them would by hypocritical with some of the things I want to say. Hoping for silver bullet charisma type perks to put and keep them off balance or something, I guess?
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>Star Wars

So, I took Electrokinesis in Railgun and Infamous, and I have Softcap; this idea hit my head a minute ago:

>Force User tries to ignite saber
>Use EM control to disable the EM containment field as it's forming
>Plasma spurts across the floor from the hilt
>"Wow."
>Tries to ignite it again, same result.
>Plasma spurting from the hilt as he looks up at me
>"Yeah, talk about premature."
>Suddenly stops, one more spurt shooting out of the end of his saber's hilt
>"I mean, really, neither of us even has our pants off yet, and you can't even keep it under control long enough to get ready? Shit."
>Shake my head as I just walk past him, patting him on the shoulder
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>>44617104
More like
>Force User tries to ignite saber
>Use EM control to disable the EM containment field as it's forming
>Plasma spurts across the fucking everything from the hilt
>Jedi screams as he's flash-ignited from the heat because his sword just fucking sprayed plasma all over
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>>44617083
Attt the risk of shilling, I'd say get Heartache from Undertale, you can allow them to get into a fight with you but you can then simply tank/survive the ensuing battle without fighting until some sort of epiphany/realization similar to what you're trying to get across happens.
That's just off the top of my head though.
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>>44617083
Worm has some very good charisma-based perks, and there is a perk in Generic Virtual World for knowing the right way to break down or get through defenses, from debate to combat. Other than just straight charisma though, I would have to know what your aim is in doing this, what your goal is. Convincing Shounen Protagonists that there's a better path is easier if you have evidence of it, while distracting them from things they should be doing is going to require setting up problems for them to deal with.
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>>44617327
It's a start, thanks.

Actually, reading it, why is Heartache under Caretaker? Frisk can use it against... everyone in a pacifist run, but Toriel initiates hostilities. Also Spare being under Caretaker. Toriel can kill you- well, more like committing suicide by Toriel- but Papyrus will NEVER kill you.

The help is appreciated, didn't mean to rag on the Undertale jump, it really is nice. Bizarrely, I actually kind of want to go to Murdertale because that's where help is needed- if you don't interfere in Undertale, they get the pacifist ending, right? Frisk is a good kid?
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>>44615655
well, they technically have a longer life-expectancy than in kanon madoka, so there's that
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Progress report!

>My dark work is but two items from completion.
>Wadanohara Jump - how the heck am I doing Backgrounds? I know there'll be a Races section
>There's been another Stevenbomb and wow do I need to update that thing now, gif related
>AoE III scenario chugging along slowly, news at 11
>not sure how to price Wargear in Eldar jump, working on Drawbacks as we speak, yes there is an Eldrad drawback
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