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Why isn't your high fantasy setting the apocalyptic remnants of a Sci-Fi setting?
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>>44582581
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>>44582581

George R. R. Martin, please go. You have writing to do buddy!
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To be fair i made a homebrew postapocalyptic setting that what was left of the Papal States formed a Crusading Order of power armored knights and tank platoons that were hell bent on killing any kind of mutant or heretic.
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>>44582581
Because Endless Legend is fun, but sometimes I prefer something a bit more traditional.
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>>44582581
Because I'm not gay
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>>44582581
>>44582611

I wish Blazbaros would finish Urth already. Seems cool enough for a setting.
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It actually is exactly that. Humanity tried to drill to the moon through a universe made of space magic and fucked up. Now people ride mounts and ramshackle cars about while being chased by ogres and kobolds.
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>>44582581
But it is
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>>44582581
>Implying

I mean, calling Numenera "post-apocalyptic" is maybe a bit of a stretch due to the timeframe involved, but it's definitely a fantasy setting formed from the remnants of a sci-fi one.
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>>44582581
It's built on the remains of a Tippyverse setting. A primary race in my setting is ice assassins whose bodies have been used to hold thousands of minds, and can call up memories in the form of skill bonuses.
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>>44582766
Why is his art so shit?
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>>44584207

Because that's his older art.
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>>44582581
My high fantasy setting is loosely based on the parts of the Destiny canon I liked coupled with a technological spin on Dark Souls and its concept of the Undead mixed with some other space opera and fantasy fiction.

It's not only the remnants of a technological empire, it's a new one built on the bones of the one before it, ruled by the quasi-immortal ghosts that stuck around and under threat of entropy made manifest in the form of aliens and Lovecraftian elder things.
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>>44582581
Because while I'm down with suspending my disbelief, tying it up and raping it is a bit much.
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>>44583372
>Humanity tried to drill to the moon through a universe made of space magic
Now why does this sound familiar...
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>>44582581

The campaign I'm starting up next week is pretty much this.
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>>44582581
It is, but undistinguishable. The old gods were a spacefaring civilization that created a world-ship to run away from the heat death of the universe. Magic is just the manipulation of a quantum probability field. None of this matters to the players, who are playing a standard 5e hexcrawl.
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>>44584549
Right but they fuck it up and it wasn't a literal drill
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>>44582581
When I was first making it, it was.
I kinda faded out as I developed it more.
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>>44583372
>That pic

End result of pic related?
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>>44586545

That sounds like a low level magic item... and i love it.
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>>44582581
Because post-apoc is for fags who think they can top Mad Max by adding magic or aliums or 1950's aesthetics to the mix.

Spoilers: you can't. Mad Max is the peak of post-apoc and everything else is just a cheap, boring derivative.
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>>44588041
It is my setting. Space magic bees make great bullets, and awake rather posses once they touch something living. Just make sure to load the gun with gloves.
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>>44588083
Here is your (you)
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>>44586545
Oh god I remember that thread. That stupid bastard seriously through /k/ was just fucking with him and he didn't know what he actually had.
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>>44582618

Has that been confirmed? I've had that theory since I first started getting into Game of Thrones.
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>>44582581
It...kinda is.
>Millennia ago, peoples from all over the multiverse boarded a fucktonne of spelljammers and fucked off boldly where no biological form has ever gone before
>Fast forward a lot (and I mean a lot) of time
>12 remaining ships crashland on a young, surprisingly uninhabited world
>Much time has passed and no one could remember it, no records have been preserved anywhere but the most well-hidden underground vaults
>Only elves - being ageless and immortal - could have remembered it if they weren't busy slaughtering each other in a thousand-years-old civil war
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I've tried, but it usually ends up turning into pic related instead.
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>>44582581

Because mixing sci-fi and fantasy is fucking retarded and is only done by faggots who can't make up their minds about what kind of game they want to run. Having computers, cybernetics and laser rifles in the same setting as dragons, magic swords and wizards is fucking retarded.

My homebrew D&D setting is not at all home to the remnants of a crashed spaceship where an artificial intelligence seeks to become a literal god and sends out robots and cybernetically-enhanced undead to spread a literal techno-religious virus to the unsuspecting world of flesh above
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>>44582618
>>44588392
He actually deconfirmed it in a reply to a comment on his blog. He's said unlike Heinlein and Asimov towards the end of their lives, he's yet to have the urge to combine all his stories.
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>>44582611
Why shield? He has a gun which means his opponent will have one as well unless this shield is made from some bulletproof material.
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>>44582581
>>Why isn't your high fantasy setting the apocalyptic remnants of a Sci-Fi setting?
Check out the Nausicaa series. It's basically techno medieval with airships and giant bugs after the planet got nuked by meat robots.
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>>44588725
I honestly liked that game... but holy shit was it grindy.
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>>44589175
You answered your own question
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>>44589018
The genres began often near-indistinguishable from each-other you faggot.
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>>44582626
Warhammer 40k?
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>>44589220

Oh, okay then. My mistake.
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>>44582581
Because that's more of a sword&sorcery trope than a high fantasy one.
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What would people in this setting call things like an artificially intelligent robot? What about a starmap that has comprehensive information on a variety of habitable planets? How would they react to these things?

the vaulters are 100% not a part of my setting, I promise
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>>44589696
but the Mezari are, right?
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>>44589696

>What would people in this setting call things like an artificially intelligent robot?

Automaton, machine men, etc.

>What about a starmap that has comprehensive information on a variety of habitable planets?

Depending on the setting they might not fully understand what it's telling them, but know that it pertains to the celestial realms above. Something cheesy, like the "Star Atlas"?

>How would they react to these things?

To robots, probably no differently than they would constructs powered by magic, or sentient constructs powered by magic.

To a catalog that details planets, probably would find it completely useless except to the occasional curious scholar.
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>>44582766

As someone who knows Blaz, he's busy with other stuff, particularly making the Payload game. And alot of the good U'rth stuff ideas, the really trippy stuff, is from another guy.
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>>44589861

>Only realized seconds after posting this what the setting was.

Oh, that invalidates all my answers then!
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>>44582581

But that IS my setting, except replace High Fantasy with Pike-and-Shotte.
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>>44584207

Oi, you havin a chuckle m8
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>>44586545
OH MY GOD.
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>>44589018
Now you're contradicting yourself. Is it bad or is it good?
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>>44586545
Sometimes, it amazes me how a human beings, being from time to time so stupid up to even forgetting how to breath, survives and expands a horizons of stupid.
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>>44590241

More like I just wanted to vent what I commonly hear from some people when they see science fiction elements in a fantasy game.

>Iwasjustpretendingtoberetarded.jpg

I get different strokes for different people, but when you actually say that "sci-fi has no place in fantasy" you're kind of objectively wrong.

I actually ran a short game in that homebrew setting at my college, and one of the players got physically upset when they found out the lich they were hunting down was a cyber-lich armed with a gravity gun, despite having been exposed to magitech already and being fine with it. I guess it really matters whether something's powered by magic or actual electricity and circuits.
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>>44589137
How does he explain a god from his space anthologies (Bakkalan the Pale child, described as as a pale child holding a black sword) showing up in the Temple of the One God in Braavos?
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>>44590620
References for fans of his other works. At the end of the day, these are fictional stories, so what stops them from referencing other stories? GRRM also has references to Jack Vance, Roger Zelzany, Tad Williams and Robert Jordan, among others. Doesn't mean their works are a part of his universe.
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>>44590696
I guess. It just seems like a little bit of a cop out, but I just felt so goddamn clever when I recognized that. Link to the blogpost saying aSoIaF isn't linked to his SF?
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>>44590926
http://grrm.livejournal.com/464984.html?thread=23461208#t23461208
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>>44590985
I can't help but wonder if he initially wrote it as being a single continuity, but then after it all became "game of thrones", he had to alter course, especially since this was literally just posted like three hours ago, and not too long after he announced the delay.
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>>44589175
Why do you assume his opponent also has a gun?
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>>44591958
This. The shield is probably to keep dirty peasants from battering his armor as he makes them drop by the thousands with his magick stick.
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>>44589018
...now I'm trying to figure out how to name an AI-turned-figurative-deity.

Acronym name corrupted into an actual name, I assume, but fuck if I can name robots.
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>>44582581
because Degenesis already exists
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>>44590696

At least he's not going the Jeff Vandermeer route where all his books are either real history or non-fiction in each other book, or possibly all real but in different dimensions.
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>>44582581
because my dieselpunk setting is the remnants of a scifi setting
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>>44592018

Depends on its original function. For a navigational computer, like you might find in an example like >>44589018?

How about Orbital Dynamic Insertion SYStem, or Odysseus?
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>>44590479
I'd like to know more about the setting, if you've got more.
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>>44590479
I had more or less the same thing happen, save for the "Lich" was actually a crazed transhuman scientist shipwrecked on a primitive world, and his phylactery was actually the data core housing his actual ego that he kept uploading into new bodies
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>>44582581
And what if my Sci-Fi setting is the apocalyptic remnants of a high fantasy setting? Hum?
Ever thought of that?

More seriously, the small issue I have with that kind of setting is that too often the fantasy part tend to fade out for the sf part.It become all about what happened ages ago. It's not a deal breaker though.
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Because I can't write a high fantasy setting, let alone one with a sci-fi setting woven in.
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Because it already is, OP.
For two games already actually.

One is a Kyoukai Senjou no Horizon game
The other is a Log Horizon game.
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>>44593597
>One is a Kyoukai Senjou no Horizon game
Holy shit please tell me more
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>>44593786
Mutants and Masterminds. PL 11. The only system crazy enough to run it.

You just KNOW Kawakami made a working horizon tabletop game just gathering dust in his home. He made an RPG called Obstacle Overture which was basically D&D with even more crazy math involved.
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It's gotten really common in books as of late - though admittedly it's usually more of a gritter, low fantasy setting, not really a high one. Think Prince of Thorns or The Warded Man instead of Sword of Shannara.

It just starts to feel a bit stupid and lazy - if you're going to make it so different in so many ways, why have it be descended from our world at all instead of making your own? You might a bit of surviving tech here, a bomb they could use there, but there's never going to be cars people can work but barely know how they function, or guns people are trained to use but treat as mystical items.
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>>44582581
because I'm super sick of this in every fantasy video game
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>>44586545
>>Tony Abbott discovers another way to stop the boats.jpg
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>>44589861
>no differently than they would constructs powered by magic, or sentient constructs powered by magic.
What if they think the robots are constructs powered by magic items called 'fusion cores'?
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>>44589018
>mixing sci-fi and fantasy is fucking retarded
It's hard to do well
That doesn't mean it's retarded
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>>44582626
So, the Enclave except based in Vatican instead of DC?
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>>44594134
>in every fantasy video game
U wot mate?
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>>44593062

The setting is basically a ripoff of the Shannara series/Adventure Time, in that its set on Earth millennia after humanity's interstellar civilization collapses and magic clashes (and, rarely, co-exists) with natural science.

Extraplanar beings ripped into the Material Plane and re-introduced magic into the universe's laws of nature and "woke up" the supernatural elements that still lingered on Earth from ye olden days, leading to a clusterfuck of an apocalypse.

Thousands of years later, people shun the science of the old world, believing it cursed at best (ie the sci-fi tech that's still lying around in remote places). The magitech that is slowly emerging is based off of a form of cold fusion, which, to those few who study old world science figure out, was not possible under old world science. Cue conspiracy that the magitech is based off of a deliberately introduced flaw by the extraplanar beings that invaded the universe for some endgoal.
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>>44582581
It's high fantasy postpostapocalypse of magitech setting by that point
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>>44593282

>Eclipse Phase meets medieval fantasy

Why the fuck haven't I thought of this earlier
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>>44594276

That'd work too, I'd imagine. The word "robot" itself wouldn't pop up though, except those who are in the know.
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>>44588725
I would play the fuck out of that. I love the aesthetics and setting, but hate the grind.
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>>44588083
>Mad Max
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>>44582581
Because it's a computer simulation built to retain the minds of half a billion people killed in a nuclear strike on a mega city. They've all forgotten the outside world, except the overseer AIs that now play as Gods, one trying to maintain the status quo, the other trying to reconnect to reality at the cost of burning through the hardware keeping people "alive"
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>>44589696
>What would people in this setting call things like an artificially intelligent robot?

A Golem

>What about a starmap that has comprehensive information on a variety of habitable planets?

Celestarium

>How would they react to these things?

Awe and wonder, as these are relics from the age of legends and magic.
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>>44592488
>VanderMeer
anything but a genius
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Wait, hold on, what? It's frowned upon to put all your stories in the same universe?
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>>44589831
Nope. Definitely not. Nuh-uh.
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>>44582643
Sounds like something a faggot would say.
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>>44582581
it is and it's fucking badass
go to bed Jarod
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>>44588083
But I don't want to play in Australia.
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>>44600825
Dude, I think you need to calm down.
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>>44600825
nigger
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>>44582581
Pretty sure that's 40k in a nutshell
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>>44600938
40k is what is termed science fantasy. Basically there's too much science for fantasy, but too much fantasy for science fiction.
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>>44589939
i'm not the guy you replied to, but that is really not very good

he has a lot of practice ahead of him
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>>44600978
There's really no science and never was, any more than Mage has science because they explain the spheres of magic
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>>44600978
>40K
>too much science
Ehehehehehe
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>>44593976
Sword of Shannara is also fantasy in the remnants of a high tech world.
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>>44593412
Isn't that sort of what Shadowrun is?
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