Has catachan ever been invaded? I ask because fenris has been invaded thrice.
Whats the "deathiest" death world in 40k?
No its believed that a lot of the life on the planet has genes dating back to ancient tyranids that came to the system before we could even fly a plane. They left some and they devolved/evolved into what they are today
I'm pretty sure catachan's explicitly called out as the deadliest death world.
I'm not going to dig out my books to check, though.
I'm curious as to what the flora and fauna of Catachan do to ork spores. Conventional wisdom would suggest that orkifying the landscape would be supremely LESS dangerous than the local sights.
They're at least semi feral, though given Old Zogwort managed to get off the planet somehow, they seem to have some ability to travel.
There's not a whole lot of info on them overall, besides Old Zogwort, who's one of the most powerful Weirdboyz among the Orks.
>Whats the "deathiest" death world in 40k?
Phyrr from Dark Heresy.
A world so lethal even the bacteria want to kill you.
And for good reason. Every single thing there has a bio-mutagenic genetical toxin that even made the AdMech give up on finding a cure for it.
Also there are psychic cougars.
Catachan has native populations of Orks and Tyrannids.
It's already been invaded by xenos It's just that the rest of the planet was so fucking awful that they just got absorbed by the ecosystem rather than the other way around.
It's also why Space marines haven't recruited from there. Space Marines wouldn't survive.
>Space Marines wouldn't survive.
space marines don't recruit from there for the same reason they don't recruit from Cadia. their main exports are guardsmen and they need everyone they got.
>It's also why Space marines haven't recruited from there
They haven't recruited from there because no Chapter is based there. Marines regularly recruit from deathworlds.
>Space Marines wouldn't survive.
And ordinary humans can? Don't be absurd.
Well, there are still some there, so obviously they do.
Winning wasn't the point, it was just about survival
Sly Marbo wouldn't let some scum messing with his grandma's garden.
Did they manage to understand that catachans weren't a new nid bioform?
>Whats the "deathiest" death world in 40k?
Catachan. That's why they made a codex for it. They're like the Ultramarines for deathworlds.
And the reason it's a deathworld is because it was invaded by Tyranids.
The Flesh Tearers homeworld is also pretty hardcore.
Basically something like Honey I shrunk the Kids in 40k.
Orks become stronger and harder the more enemies they fight, the stronger their leader, the harder their trials, the more toxic shit they east and survive.
They are pretty much PC's, they gain XP from everything, have no level cap, no parents and their best friend was killed by orks.
And that's when I noticed that Anon wasn't some nameless poster on the internet, but was in fact a three-storey tall chitenous mantid-assassin from beyond the edge of the galaxy, sent to slaughter men and beasts alike!
The Burnscour Lictor!
Classification: Death World
Region: Ragged Worlds
Current Proprietor: None
Environment: Everything’s trying to kill you
Recommendations: Tape down the trigger.
I think their population had a lot to do with it too. Up until a certain point they won't get much bigger than Nobz and the main way a warboss gets bigger is the Nobz around him getting bigger so he has to keep getting bigger to stay in power.
Makes me wonder why their core worlds don't have warboss so big they ride on gargants.
Remember that Charadon planet near Ultramar that the UM need to send their best heroes in suicide mission every hundred years or so to kill the new Arch-Arsonist (The Warboss to end all Warbosses)?
A normal Boy there is a match for a Nob.
It's the one thing that keeps their Master Librarian awake at night.
They sent the core of a Hive Fleet there to delay it, but they know Shit-Will-The-Fan once that conflict ends.
If the Orks win, they'll be so fuck-huge they might be unstoppable.
If the Nids win, the biomass they'll acquire is fucking stupid high...
Pretty funny. I am a bushman from australia, did 5 years in our army as an engineer. On top of that, im from a really small town in central NSW. Ive got lots of stories and experience.
I like to imagine id be catachan if 40k was a real thing.
I think the trick is that when a warboss gets to a certain size, he's compelled to start a big Waaagh!, and since orks haven't managed to conquer the galaxy yet, those Waaghs all get stopped at one point or another. So even if orks don't have a maximum kaiju size limit, they always manage to coincidentally get killed during their Waaagh. Maybe Gazghkull will finally be the ork that becomes godzilla, or maybe he'll get killed at the height of his power like all warbosses who came before him. We'll never know.
Well, I think if the orks and nids don't get any reinforcements from outside the planet, they'll eventually disintegrate one another. Nids lose biomass as they recycle their dead, and orks need to harvest something to eat and live just like the other old ones' science fair projects. With a margin of error of tyranid acid weapons and ork burnas destroying bits and pieces of the total population, one or both sides will be destroyed in a few centuries.
I think Krieg is technically a death world. Full of radiation, no real plants or animals to speak of besides the Kriegers. There was even a short story where a genestealer invaded, and it only managed to infect a Krieger that was considered genetically unfit and was shot.
Also no food and no water, no natural shelter.
It's a wastelad of irradiated mud, ask and molten concrete cities.
Life is only possible inside the hermetically sealed hives where the air is purified, supplies are flown in.
Genetic damage is so widespread even with extensive eugenics and gene testing three in ten born are too deformed to let live and the rest rarely live to fifty before cancer takes them.
Would you play a Fallout game on Krieg /tg/?
You bet your ass I would
And despite that, they commit more than ten regiments of soldier per year, where similarly populated world commit one, pet decade.
It's at the point where Departmento Munitorum official's commit Kriegers more readily to suicide missions than penal legions.
Shit, I seriously want to stroll through irradiated trenches killing xenos, mutants and monsters while I blast old-timey music over the vox.
Their entire industrial output is devoted to raising soldiers. Weapons, equipment, training, cloning vats.
Other worlds have luxuries like fresh food and producing goods to something besides survival.
Orks can feed off tyranids, and tyranids can feed off of orks.
It's a match made in Heaven. The orks of Charadon are enjoying the fuck out of that fight, it's terrifying.
Regardleds of who wins, the end result is a near unstoppable ultra-veteran force of Space Badasses.
Luckily, thats a problem for the next, next, next, next generation.
OK niggers, listen up.
Catachan is not Space 'Straya.
Catachan is Space 'Nam.
It's always been Space 'Nam.
Space 'Straya is called Van De'Man's World (Van Diemen's Land being the original name for Tasmania, a State of Australia.) and has produced a fighting force called the "Redbacks" (A Redback is an Australian spider. Related to, but far deadlier then the American Black Widow.).
Ipso Facto, Van De'Man's World is a deadlier world then Catachan by sheer dint of it ACTUALLY being based on Australia. The deadliest place on earth.
>Catachan a shit.
>Van De'Man's World GOAT.
>Cat fags BTFO.
Charadon solution: Wait until the Orks almost beat the Tyrranids.
Nuke Caradon with a fuck load of exterminatus weapons.
Remove extremely weakened Tyranids that remain with prejudice.
>Defence of Catachan (972.M41) - Chaos Lord Ratathrax of the Night Lords Traitor Legion invades Catachan. Sending vast orbital barrages down onto the planet aimed at incinerating vast swathes of the Catachan world-jungle, Ratathrax robs the Catachan Jungle Fighters of their most natural defence before systematically bombing their bastion networks into rubble. Ratathrax makes planetfall to enjoy the butchery first hand. Unfortunately for him, Colonel "Iron Hand" Straken of the illustrious Catachan II Regiment lies in ambush in a quagmire of toxic sludge, waiting for Ratathrax to remove his helmet before successfully ambushing him and throttling him to death with a poisonous barb-root.
The Big Tyranid/Ork bash orchestrated by the UM is on Octarius, ruled by the Overfied of Octarius
Charadon is a different system in the same cluster, also an Ork world ruled by the Arch-Arsonist of Charadon
"Recently" Ghazkull's arrived to recruit the biggest and a'rdest lads for his next adventure, and the systems are conveniently close to Ultramar...
There is no waiting it out, Orks keep coming to the planet from all over for the good fight.
>Locate Black Hole in galaxy
>Send false messages to orkz and their warbosses that the biggest and the baddest fight of all time is occurring near Black Hole
>Orkz gets eaten by Black Hole
>Convince them that they are just being sent to the Big Fight
Could it work?
Ork don't announce there's a good fight, they prefer to keep good fight to themselves, other orks just gravitate towards the waagh field.
Like sticky children, yappy dogs and drunk people gravitate toward folks that don't like them.
Maybe, but there is an unacceptable risk that the ork's force of belief coupled with the general weirdness around black holes could in fact result in the mother of all WAAAGH!s falling out of a wormhole a hundred years in the future and directly over something important, because the fucking greenskins just ALWAYS pull that shit.
Presumably by the Imperium/humanity when it got colonized, I guess.
Straken's origin story is being trampled by a giant squiggoth in a giant underground tunnel, still manage to kill it by cave-in, survive even though whole body is jell-o, have his success stolen by an incompetent commander, not giving a shit, being revived as cyborg straken and continuing like nothing happened...
It's always hilarious to me that Krieg commissars aren't there to execute cowards, they're there basically to keep the Kriegers from dying heroically taking pointless objectives.
>"Guys. GUYS. This hill is shit, go die taking the next hill. Not that one, the one on the left. GB-8472, kindly stop screaming 'REDEMPTION' when I'm talking, before I shoot you myself."
Well, there's a certain semantic issue there. If human life simply can't survive on a death world, period, than it's not really a death world since it can't be colonized. A death world needs to be deadly enough that most people won't survive, but it can't be so deadly no one can survive. Otherwise, you'd have places like that one world where it rains molten glass shards sideways at 150kph every minute of every day being classified as Death Worlds instead of 'inhospitable'
The definition must be pretty loose, as the book counts it and Phyrr (the world where everything is poisonous and mutagenic) as death worlds. It seems to be anywhere that human life is possible, even if only in airtight habs is counted as a death world. Humans could live on Kenov, if only everything wasn't trying to kill them (and wasn't better at killing them than Catachan).
The Imperium doesn't have a classification for planets too dangerous for habitation.
The closest is a Dead world, which is a planet with no life or atmosphere at all.
"A Death World is a planet which is too dangerous for a variety of environmental and biosphere reasons to support widespread human settlement.
The types of Death Worlds are varied, ranging from planets that are covered by world-wide jungles that harbour vicious carnivorous plants and animals to barren rockscapes strewn with volcanoes and wracked by ion storms.
These worlds are near-impossible to colonise by Mankind due to their environmental conditions or the nature of their biospheres.
Nonetheless, many of these worlds have large human settlements, which are notable for the strength and self-reliance of their people.
Many of the people of these worlds are inducted into the Imperial Guard, or recruited by the Space Marines, a fact which is often the sole reason for the continued habitation of those worlds.
Some harbour rich mineral, vegetable, animal or gaseous resources that are of such value to the Imperium that a small human settlement will be maintained despite all the dangers."
How the Imperium defines worlds seems pretty loose in general, really. I mean, one of the principal distinctions between Death World and a nasty Feral World is "Do more natives die from superpredator or from spear wound? If the former, Death World. If the latter, Feral." That and various parties will happily skew the classifications one way or another for their own benefit.
"A Feral World is defined as a planet whose population is composed of nomadic hunter-gatherers or members of early agricultural societies and who possess technology equivalent to Old Earth's Stone Age, Bronze Age or early Iron Age cultures."
So if there's a general cultural and/or tech level beyond the renaissance it ain't Feral.
The dangers of warp travel are greatly exaggerated. If it was a 50/50 chance to die per trip the Imperium couldnt exist with how many ships they'd lose a day.
Yes, every trip a demon could materialize and rip you to pieces, but its a really small chance.
America actually has far more killer wildlife in it than Australia, the thing is that America's deadly flora and fauna are spread out over a considerably large stretch of land while Australia has all of its killer wildlife condensed onto a relatively small island when compared to the continental U.S.
not sure if Catachan has been invaded
I would say Fenris is the most deadly. It was invaded when the Space Wolves had been lured away, but I think more of the Space Wolves' enemies died from wild animals/cold than attacking The Fang itself which is saying something.
Most of my countrymen are retards sadly.
>Makes me wonder why their core worlds don't have warboss so big they ride on gargants.
This was pretty much the case until the Emperor showed up. There was that one Ork that plausibly tried to 1v1 Horus after killing his entire bodyguard company for example. May have changed in newer fluff.
If you're talking about Ullanor, then no: Horus went one on one with the boss while 10 Luna Wolf Terminators fought a mass of Nobz (initially 40, though Horus himself had killed a bunch too before he reached Urlakk). Out of the Terminators, only Abaddon survived, but Horus's victory over Urlakk was described as a complete curbstomp:
>The Overlord was an enormous Ork, but he was simply no match for the Primarch's skill and unnatural power. First crippling his enemy, Horus hefted Urlakk's broken body out onto the roof and threw it screaming from the battlements to fall far below amongst the horde of Orks still assaulting the lower levels.
Wait, no, it's pretty much the opposite. The United States has so much more land taken up by people. People with guns. Or spears, whatever. Australians have all that beautiful wilderness full of monsters that want to kill you and/or fill their treasure hordes with Australian gold and bitches. Alaska is the only part of America on that same level. Otherwise, when deer are the deadliest animals in your wilderness, it's not really wilderness.
>Implying space Australia won't be annexed and become space America
I assume you are a brit, so what does a typical American accent sound like to you? The story had the term "draw" which in America means a Southern accent but from what I've seen from Brits they seem to think that Americans speak with a deeper tone and slower than others. You can see this when you watch Brits trying to do American accents, look at any Monty Python sketch involving Americans for a prime example.
Oh God, that thing.
Self Defense through mutually assured destruction... The only defense against the tyranid gone native... Being a living nuke that blows up at the drop of a hat.
Closer to a frag missile. Coated in toxins. Fucking hell, what demented space god designed a creature like that? At what point did ALLAHU AKBAR become a survival trait? What, do other Catachan life forms just very carefully and slowly tiptoe around the damn things while trying to think placid thoughts?
The only real danger of the environment in america is well armed functioning retards being the base humans that they fucking are.
Fucking burgerclaps. Go wipe your arses with a gympie bush.
Could Cadia classify as a Death World? At least partially? Given, that a big part of the planet is infested with daemons and Chaos and shit, and it's as close as you can get to literal space-hellhole?
nope, death world means natural environment.
demon world maybe, but fortress world is probably accurate as well. It is hard to get any cohesive details of cadia post 999M41 though
It's... like sailing. Yeah, a crazy ass storm could show up and wreck your shit, but 9 times out of 10? You're fine. Running in to enemy ships is a higher possibility and more of a fucking nightmare than standard warp travel.
The warp is a horrible place, but there are good paths through it. Just hope to the emperor your Nav didn't fuck up, and everything will be fine.
Also hope there are no Iron Men on board your craft pretending to be ratings.
see, that always made me wonder about the Ullanor-battles, where the Emperor almost got choked to death by a warboss.
Could you imagine how big a Waagh he must've had to become that powerful?
I'm not that Anon, but I am another Ausfag that grew up in Queensland and spent quite a bit of time in the sticks on my own (or with my mother and sister, Dad is in the Army)
The first snake I saw was when I was about 4. I had literally just finished getting the story from my mum and dad (He was home on leave for a change) and the bastard slid past the door I was just about to go out. When I was eight I was shown how to use a gun and given one to use. I was 11 when I killed my first brown snake with a short handed spade (the first of many. Never with guns, always with the Spade or Hoe.) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_brown_snake
I've never been bitten, but i've had all sorts of spiders try. A harmless but still spoopy huntsman underneath my pillow just before I faceplanted on it. (lucky I checked). Another huntsman on top of the toilet cistern lept at me and fell into the bowl. I then pissed on it and flushed it. I've been shot at with both rifle and bow. I've had dingo's driven to desperation by the drought hunt me to the very edge of the farmhouse. We had to get professional hunters in for that time, they nailed about ten-fifteen of them before they gave up.
I've had a variety of injuries but never broken a bone except my skull which is still dented to this day.
I've had a pretty colourful life.
Aight, I spose so.
It was two separate incidents, but both involved the same dickbag that was forced to stay at my place. To cut a long story short, him and his sister were (regularly) abandoned by their mother at our place because she wanted to go party (she was recently divorced) and her kids were wonderful bundles of fuck.
I'll call him Phillip.
The first occasion happened when I was on my BMX with my cousin and sister quite some way away from the house, and Phillip and Sharon (his sis) were on the verandah. With a whistle something landed near all three of us (about 100 meters +-50 or so, i'm not familiar with american measurements) and it was one of my arrows. The stupid bastard had found my compound bow and decided to launch arrows at the three of us. He'd already launched the second arrow and thankfully it missed us as well and was laughing hysterically.
Thankfully he put it down because he was laughing so hard he dropped it off the edge of the verandah. I got back and beat the shit out of him until he stopped moving for a while (although he was faking most of it because he was shitbag like that) and he didn't see anything wrong with what he'd done.
Which led to the second incident. (Next post)
The second incident happened with just me on my own thankfully. Near the house there was a dry gully where a storm creek ran. Have heavy enough rain and it would flood for a few hours and then dry up, it was one of my favorite places to lay in wait when I was hunting.
I can't remember why I was there but I do remember it wasn't that long after it had rained as I was walking up the gully and heard a 'smack' followed by a gunshot. Slam your fist into your palm as hard as you can, that's basically what it was like followed by the echo of shot. The sound of projectile burrowing into wet mud/soil.
I hit the deck pretty fucking quick after that and only stuck my head up long enough to see what was happening which was the miserable shit had somehow ferreted out my rifle (which I had thought was safely locked away, not sure how he found the fucking key), planted it atop a starpicket (which was carving into the wood) and was laughing like a madman as he shot at me. Thankfully it was only a five shot mag (he could work the bolt, but didn't know how to reload the mag) so that was the day I learned to count gunshots.
Much the same as the other incident, once he'd finished he ended up dropping the rifle while he laughed. Yes, I beat the shit out of so bad he didn't talk to me for a week after that, but I never told anyone about it. To afraid of having my rifle taken off me (even though I was storing it correctly and I'd never used it in front of him)
Yeah, so fun times when I was pretty young.
He seriously shot at you 4 teh lolz?
Was he genuinely retarded or demented in some way?
Was his mother drunk/on crack for the whole pregnancy?
The mind boggles. What was the reaction to his and your parents after the crossbow and righteous ass whooping incident?
Between boys and in places that aren't suburbia(and sometimes in suburbia) ass whoopings extremely serious or otherwise often get chalked down to boys will be boys. Sure parents probably shout at the kids or each other but nothing ever comes of it. Australia from when i lived there was one of those places where the kid comes home early after getting in a tooth losing stitches needing fight at school and the dad asks if the other kid looks the same before handing him his first carlton or victoria(beer). He's right though chances are if he told his mum about the rifle deal they'd get him on improper storage and safety and he'd lose his gun which is an absolute bastard.
>see, that always made me wonder about the Ullanor-battles, where the Emperor almost got choked to death by a warboss.
That was Gorro. For Ullanor, see >>44577211.
>Killing Huntsman spiders.
>Not keeping them as pet guard dogs against other spiders.
Never said that was the case for this scenario just that he probably didn't tell him to avoid his parents then the law taking his bow and rifle away and give him serious shit about it later on when he tries to get new ones (its alot harder to get firearms and "firearms" there than america) so the parents not knowing actual danger happened just scoff at the kids for duking it out like boys tend to do.
The wildlife is Australia mixed with North America on steroids, the people are Vietnam War US soldiers on steroids (hence why many depictions of Catachans include distinctly black people).
They distinctly speak like Southerners (or what non-Southerners perceive us Southerners to speak like), so I'd say they're not too far off, especially since Catachans are supposed to be American in the first place.
Yeah, for the lulz apparently. And I am 99% sure you're right on both counts and she smoked like a chimney and never stopped. My parents were divorced by this point so it was just my Mum, she noticed and asked me what was going on but I just said we'd had a pretty good fight and he was sulking. (as another anon in the thread said, roughhousing is common here) She had her own variety of problems (Mum really went off the rails over these three years or so since the divorce) so it ended up being forgotten fairly quickly.
Mum knew about the compound bow incident, she never knew about the rifle incident. If the law -had- been involved it would have been a complete shit fight for everyone because all this happened around the same time as the Port Arthur bullshit (So about 96). To make matters worse my father owned the gun but had transferred it onto my mothers licence. Like I said, not worth the trouble. I just dealt with it.