"If you read this, it means you must have managed to defeat the dragon that stood of guard in front of the access of the temple: I have no words to say how much proud I am of you! You defeated your first dragon! That's worth 5 whole golden stars! (you'll find them at the bottom of this letter, all for you: don't forget to keep track of them, my joy and pride! They are stickers you can put wherever you want!) It's one of the most important stepstone to your path to become a real man, and I am sure that you will do it! Sadly at this time I am not here, but you all deserve a big warm hug. I wish I could be there to see you in this moment. I see how much you have grown: I remember like it was yesterday when you first started to swing your sword against those skeletons...without even knowing that they weren't much hurt by it either! But look at you now! I'd shed tears if I were right there. On the other hand, while I am not here, all you find in this room is your for the taking. Don't worry, no cursed stuff, I double checked! Also, I left you a large tray of chocolate chips cookies. I hope they'll still be warm when you'll find them. Take a small break, and enjoy yourself: I won't be doing stuff until next month! Keep an ear sharp about rumors about gates and demons, alright? I am sure you will manage to do that too.
Your character ends up to deal with an oddly paternalistic/maternalistic BBEG. How would he react?
>"Ah, you -almost- counterspelled my demon portal summoning, my boy! A jolly good effort of you, well done! Have a star."
>"Now that my plan has succeeded and I have essentially won, I look forward to see how you seize the victory from the jaws of defeat. I know you can do it!"
I find the concept... Interesting.
Maybe not the way OP described, but if an old adventurer, too old to fight anymore, finds a prophecy that tells of the return of a dark god. He then makes all this shit to find worthy adventurers that can defeat said god when he arrives.
Well, it seems that this is the end of your quests. I know it must feel hard to have come so far, but I just want you to know that I'm so very proud of all of you!
And just remember! It's not about whether you win or lose, the princess is saved or killed, or the world is enshrouded in a thousand years of darkness or not! But whether or not you all did your best and had fun being all that you could be
I love this idea because of how much it would destroy my players brains. Oh, and my druid would probably see how genuine it was and feel super bad about harvesting all i could from the dragon's corpse
How maternal we talking about? And how will she "reward" us when we catch up to her?
>The BBEG is madly in love with one of the party members
>The entire campaign is his/her attempt to challenge said party member so he/she can grow stronger
I did this with the BBEG once to try and piss off my players who wanted to play an all evil campaign.
The big bad didn't feel they were worthy of facing him at the time until they did a bunch of silly self improvement bits and learned a bunch of lessons about teamwork and not being evil dickass murderhobos.
The dungeon was literally 98 rooms filled with continuous afterschool specials.
The big bad successfully redeemed 3 of the 5 players and then was murdered with those three by a gated in Baatezu summoned by one of the players who was a dedicated renegade for life.
In the end though everyone seemed pleased with the campaign.
You were defeated and captured! Don't worry, that won't cost you any gold stars and I don't think any less of you but maybe next time you should be more careful and always look out for your safety first.
You will have to escape. Keep calm and look around the cell you are being held in, I'm sure with your intelligence, skills and charm you can figure out a way to escape. (You are much smarter then the Orc guards!)
Before that though, you should make sure you eat up. I made you some stew and banana bread and there are some dry socks and a wool sweater because it's cold in prisons and I thought you could use some comfort food.
I'll send some extra blankets and tea if you don't escape by tomorrow.
All of my love;
My character would totally fall for that. Though she won't admit it she's been b desperate for a good father figure ever since she fled her real parents. She'd start working extra hard to try to impress papa without really being aware she's doing it to earn that hug.
I just hope the BBEG is being genuine here.
Just because your evil doesn't mean you can't be nice. As well, if you knew you were destined to lose to a band of heroes wouldn't you want to make them as powerful as possible so that your final duel will set the heavens aflame, empty the seas and create new land marks in its wake?
You asked me why I do this when we last saw each other. I'm sorry I couldn't tell you then because I was in the middle of fighting off a desperate alliance of men and elves, but I thought you should know now.
Power, domination and the will to change the world to your vision are the only things that matter in this world. All those silly lies about good and evil and right and wrong don't matter, what matters is power and the will to use it.
And you have that! Every time I challenge you, every time you fight you get a little stronger and get closer to the potential that I know you have. When you can beat me, when your will and power are stronger then mine, I know I can trust you to impose your vision of what the world should be and be even greater then I have been.
Love, as always,
PS: Please find enclosed an enchanted dagger for your rogue friend I forgot to put in the treasure I gave the ogre you killed last month. There is also a new hair ribbon. Please, you have a lovely face, why do you hide it behind your hair?
I actually ran with this a while back in a homebrew
>Immortal dark one that can only be killed by a true hero
>He cant off himself or let himself be killed he has to fight till the very end and always have some evil plan brewing
>Aside from that he was a pretty nice guy
>His minions weren't bloodthirsty death rapists but rather honor bound soldiers who followed codes
>Anytime anything resembling another evil popped up he'd snuff it out
>You'd think the PC's would like him NOPE
>Nigga he made them furious
>Melee pc trys fighting him and he just dodges around em giving them advice on how to attack better
>Magic pc's all get visionary advice on what to do next from the BBG himself, they dont trust it despite it being proven correct again and again
>party keeps finding notes and friendly doodles in their books and bags, as well as some useful items now and again
>He never mocks them, but their convinced he finds them pathetic
>Kinda backfired near the end
>Only time he ever went full evil is when one of party members tryed to serve him as a minion "essentially betraying the party" he turned her to dust on the spot
The voices? Are you watching the horrible English dub or the original French?
As for the French, well you get used to them, the male voices I mean. The female voices I never had a problem with.
French or english? I don't think either ever really change or "get better," but the french voices quickly grew on me. Do NOT watch the english dub, go for subbed. I'm not being a quiabeaux, but dub is the only way to go for Wakfu. Remember dubbed anime from the 80s/90s, and how it was utter shit not because it was filthy baka gaijin VAs, but because the producers couldn't be arsed to find anyone that could read the lines halfway decently? Well it's back in full force with Wakfu. Ruel sounds like a raspy grandfather in french, but fucking Grover in english, and the unnecessary New Jersey accent on Percidal is grating; the rest are poor to okay in terms of both acting ability and style of voice, but those two are the cream of the crap.
Also the english dub added a lot of unnecessary grunts and action-y sounds. Poor choices all around.
I honestly don't get what happened with the dub. Did the creators give all the rights and their kickstarter cash to an I-don't-give-a-shit studio for localization? Did they think so little of american audiences that they felt making it into a saturday-morning shonen show was what we wanted? That it was to only way to be successful? Did a localizing studio exec keep sticking his dick into it?
What the fuck happened that made Ankama drop the ball so fucking hard?
First, this will work really well with a character who never knew the mother/father. It could work as a "parent left so you would grow strong and tough" story.
Second, what about flipping it and having the BBEG be a son/daughter? Evil kids are much less common than evil parents.
If you use this, things like cookies need more context. Did the parent fix cookies before? That kind of thing. Otherwise they are nothing more than filler.
My last character was an orphan that always wanted to have her own family but ended up unadopted 'till she left the orphanage when she was an adult.
I think she'd go for it in an heartbeat, seeing if she could convince him to stop "world destruction" stuff. Also getting him a "World's Best Dad" coffee mug most likely, if he's willing to "adopt" her properly.
Well great now I have to go find that doujin again.
It wasn't this silly, but I had a campaign with a half-dragon lizardfolk being left letters and messages by the BBEG constantly. She was incredibly confused and a little disgusted because she thought the BBEG was a crazed stalker for her or something.
Then it turned out to be a black dragon who also happened to be her father, and he was serious about her growth because he (cliche I know) wanted to rule the world as father and daughter. Unlike Mark Hamill, she took the offer, and the party had to fight them both.
>oh boy! looks like you encountered my team of the assassins and bested them! I'm so proud of you, young hero! Here, take this golden star sticker as token of your achievement!
Also, tell your wizard who gonna betray your party of his own egotistical personal gain: I'm really, really, really disappointed of him. I thought he better then this.
But don't worry about this no-do-gooder, I'll can't wait our meeting in my dark tower! I'm preparing some s'mores, cocoa and some good old sacrifice to the old gods! Be sure bring MacGuffin with you! You will need it.
With best regards, Your BBEG.
What about this idea:
The stars are handed out as a reward for using underhanded tactics and general evil-leaning behavior.
They can be exchanged for easy solutions to dungeon challenges, in such a way that if you are trying to stop the BBEG from acting out a particular scheme earning a few stars could end up doing more good than harm. But you're still doing evil.
>Good job on stealing those supplies, you're becoming more and more like your old man. I am so proud of you.
>Now is no time to be stingy! Spend some golden stars to immediately break down this wall.
It's really a shame that most are just too small to make something proper out of
>Your character ends up to deal with an oddly paternalistic/maternalistic BBEG. How would he react?
Played against one of those, TPK
Fuck off with that already, I got it the first time and don't want to ever see this shit on /tg/ again.
While going well into the creepy fetish territory I think of this as a good example of showing players why they should think twice before making pacts with demons and doing other stupid stuff.
Also I laughed because of the wizard, thanks
Have a puppy. Now let's get back on the rails, all right? ANY rails. Please.
Hm...I wonder what are all the possibilities for this kind of BBEG "quirk".
The ones I can come up with are:
-He's just mocking the party
-He's trying to confuse the party
-He's actually the father of a party member if not of all of them
-He's -not- the father of a party members, but he's sort of crazy and believes to be so
-He's just -really- lonely.
In the later cases, if he was sincere about it, the question is : how come he's into evil stuff?
Someone in this thread said something about an ex-adventurer trying to train the party for a bigger thing.
But I was thinking: would a scenario where he "must" do the things he does count? And/or just not-too-secretly hoping someone will stop him?
An elf would make a great pet/child/companion for a lich now that I think about it.
It would keep them sane and feeling somewhat youthful, and the lich would be the only human they'd get to know their whole life.
Hell, a half-elf who's human parent becomes a lich.
Such as all the awesome cartoonishly drawn vaguely porn comics.
In America it's all half-assed and poorly-drawn fanservice shit where it's tits and asses everywhere without ever actually showing a thing. Atrocious.
Sorry for /co/ rant.
Their comics are even better.
But there's gems like this too.
Well my party would go full on Redemption Mode. We couldn't kill him, so we'd try to save him.
Also applicable to hot female BBEGs who don't really put their heart into killing us.
>Yugo is a god now
When and how the fuck did that happen?!
>the notes and cookies are actually from the BBEG's henchman
>It's always signed with the BBEG's name because the henchman doesn't have a real name and does the BBEG's paperwork anyways
>His only skills involve working evil so he can't get a day job and is stuck working with the BBEG
>I mean, he could go dig ditches or something, but BBEG pays well and he's just sure you guys will stop the plot anyways
He just has to keep you guys encouraged and it'll all work out.
My character is the BBEG's daughter, but he is distant and left her on a church doorstep, if he got replaced by a paternalistic/maternalistic she'd be either confused at the concept, or if the BBEG was in some way redeemable, she'd just go along with it and try and calm them down and make them new parent.
A similar thing, but actually the hero was being trained and tested to -defeat- the BBEG.
Also the BBEG was actually a low-grade miniboss with an overinflated ego, but that's neither here nor there. He still fit pretty well for this thread until he started to lose his cool.
Yeah it was Elan's dad right? He wanted his son to defeat him just to cap off his career as secret overlord of the land, because of a flair for the dramatic? I honestly stopped reading around that arc, not for any particular reason, just got a little bored, there might've also been a hiatus.
There's been multiple really bad hiatuses.
Yeah, he had a villainous blue screen of death when he realized his son wasn't the main character and was left banging his feet and fists on the sand in the desert about not being the big bad as a result.
At that point of dramatic dying where he can't see anymore, so Elan tells him he's in the middle of the panel and surrounded by grieving minions and fist-shaking foes when in reality he's offscreen while Roy gives the rest of the party orders. Totally alone otherwise.
After the party clears a particularly hard dungeon where they were told the princess was being kept, they find a note on the back of a map in the treasure room.
>Don't worry guys if your reading this note here that means you have cleared a far more difficult challange then the one needed to save the princess. Also take these dragon slaying arrows they should come in handy, as she is guarded by one lone dragon you can find them on the map. Best of luck!
>With love, BBEG
No, this was a short story published in an anthology, not a webcomic.
I -think- it was one of the stories in this set, but I had trouble finding a list:
He sees the potential in the protagonist to be a fantastic hero, they just need the right nemesis to overcome. Somebody who can prepare for real evil later on and deliver the hero's first punches with a stern but caring fist and a glass of milk after.
Nigga I'd have killed that thing as soon as it started chowing down on innocents. I don't need a whole greentext to tell me that a demon who's acting friendly will only act friendly until I can't stand up to them anymore, and "tricked into getting eaten by a vagina" is pretty low on my list of ways I'd like to die.
It's definitely on there, don't get me wrong, I'm just not going to LET it happen.
So... with MY party at least, I know that this whole thing would have a bigger impact if the BBEG was a woman. What about you guys?
Is this more, I guess potent, if it was a man or a woman?
I'm not actually sure, I think it would probably be funnier if it was a man being so doting towards his enemies.
If it was a woman I could see the pcs being way to into trying to fuck her, at best going with the 'lawful hot dickings' excuse.
He wielded all six Eliatrope Dofus at once to fight Ogrest in the 3-part special episodes they did that follow up S2. It's pretty much Wakfu: The Movie and it's fucking great.
They haven't explained how the things he did made him a racial God like The Twelve, but apparently it had effects that weren't directly shown in the episodes, other than the brutal chaos and destruction that resulted from the fight.
Lotta shit changed in the lore because of what happened in those episodes.
I wanted to do something like megabyte in reboot where the character is the final villain but you're forced to deal with him in multiple day to day situations.
Said villain would even have a soft spot for some of the characters(see megabyte in the episode with enzo's birthday) but continue to be a glorious bastard whenever possible.
Probably but I know one guy in my group who would be capable of derailing everything into that singular goal. And he'd be less likely to think of and make it the single objective of the campaign.
Make him the King of the land.
Fully supported and loved by his people with an army of loyal and just knights at his side, but on the side he likes to do shit to fuck with the heroes, partly for his entertainment, partly for secret reasons that no one knows about.
The players can stop his plans and stop any damage from his shenanigans, but they can't attack the King without becoming infamous criminals who would be attacked and executed on sight. The King might even tease and mock them along the way, but at the end of the day he still goes back to being the beloved King.
>wants to be a hero, has essentially managed it despite acting like a pointy-eared Jack Bauer with anger issues
>hates his parents for trying to marry him off to some girl he never even met
This would end... interestingly.
Or a minor god when a heroes are demigods on their way to achieving a godhood. Higher power selected him to challenge, test heroes worthiness in various ways. He actually a really nice and swell guy, but it's his job to do: test new gods and making sure they will not figure it out before right moment.
My other thought, to match OP's idea, would be for the BBEG to literally be one of the first people. Part of the first civilization to have ever lived from whom all other species and civilizations descended from. Literally the parent to all of the sapient races that currently exist.
They could just be angry with their descendants for letting the world get so messed up. They were never supposed to interact with monsters or meet the dragons or dabble in dark magic, but they did and now Daddy/Mommy wants someone to be a good child and clean up the mess they made.
They are. I grabbed them off nyaatorrents I think, since they don't have it up on brotherhood of tofu.
I'd recommend watching Wakfu season 1 and 2, the Nox and Goultard specials, then read the franga (I think they are about done with tome 3), and then watch the specials.
The stuff with Yugo becoming "The God-King" is an in-game lore sort of thing as a result of the stuff that happens in the 3 special episodes.
First chunk of the Franga is a lot of neat stuff. You get to see what became of a lot of the characters and you get to see some nice downtime stuff. Then shit hits the fan.
All you really need to know is that they went looking for all 6 of the Eliatrope Dofus and found them due to some extenuating circumstances. Also, Eva and Grovy totally hooked up and had babies together.
Shit got super real and Jiva fucked everything up... again. Then adventure happened.
But the weird thing is that Ankama didn't release all 3 volumes before they released the episodes, I think.. I might be wrong though. Either way, the special episodes only briefly mention the jist of the Franga happenings. They found the Dofuses (Dofii?) and that's all you need to know.
I am honestly just a little dissapointed with how uncleverly they handled it. Like instead of having the heroes misinterpret the BBEG's interest as something romantic.
Because their really isn't much of the Paternalistic/Materialistic dynamic with just having the BBEG interest be romance.
I like the idea that the BBEG is just doing it because he thinks it's funny. Nothing necessarily malicious or tragic about the quirk, just the idea of acting like a concerned parent to the people trying to kill you is hilarious to him and he's playing it straight for the laughs.
That does sound a bit fun but to me it feels like it lacks the truth needed to really make the joke. I prefer the idea that he's so hyped about the upcoming fight between good and evil and just wants it to be perfect so he's making his enemies stronger to showcase how great he is.
You can also have him be an evil overlord who knows he WILL be defeated by the heroes of proficy and he wants them to be as strong and heroic as possible when the time comes so that it can be said he was taken out by the greatest heroes ever instead of some scrubs.
And this is they only way he can think to help them on their way.
Why not both?
One BBEG is the pseudo-mother who wants them to grow up to be good, legendary heroes, while the other BBEG is the pesudo-father who wants them to follow the adventurer-family tradition and bring evil to the land.
Their can be wacky parent hi-jinks of them trying to out do each other, but in the end they want the adventurers to decide for themselves.
...It's just me that sees this kind of BBEG as an evil (?) version of pic related?
That sounds... pretty fantastic.
Just arcane runes hidden fucking EVERYWHERE, along with pretty nice prizes, but to the point of the party getting actually sick of them.
"If you are reading this, you finally managed to find the treasure room that I set to teleport between my multiple lairs. Congratulations, you are heroes now. Here's a set of magical amulets for you all to wear, and I've taken the liberty of writing the rough draft of a song bards will sing about you into the ages"
Or pic related.
Cant forget pic related.
So how do you think your pc's would take the death of this BBEG?
My PC's called me a douchebag and thew dice at me when they realized they would have to kill the BBEG in front of his daughter, who had been a recurring NPC that helped them on countless occasions.
They didn't know her dad was the BBEG until 3/4 of the way through the campaign, and almost punched me because they found out when BBEG visited his daughter in town for a picnic.
No, this was not a comedy campaign.
>mfw I look at the note, look at the other characters, then put the stickers on my rifle, then walk off
>I never had a family of my own. I just wanted to give the citizens of Oz everything they wanted.
I love the idea of a villain passive aggressively running a civilization into stagnation and then ruin just because he approached being a ruler with the same mentality as being a coddling parent. Incidentally as forever GM, my character is the oddly paternalistic BBEG; he reacts by being oddly paternal.
>Your character ends up to deal with an oddly paternalistic/maternalistic BBEG. How would he react?
It didn't work out so well for this guy...
ask him if he knows a good way to get a blood stain out of a traveling cloak
Wolzard from magiranger was kinda like this actually.
He was the father of the rangers, having sacrificed himself to seal the evil demon god of badness in the last fight to stop it. He lost of his memory and became its servant. But he had shades of this left in him. He couldn't actually bring himself to kill his wife instead imprisoning her. And was semi-paternal whenever the heroes gave him a good fight. He kinda ahad a Darth Vader/Luke relationship with the Red Ranger.
I did this in my campaign. One of my players died due a demon attack, so in death he was offered a chance to live again, at a price. He chose eternal vassalage to the demon (an imp, more a salesperson for his out of the picture boss then anything.) So said imp stuck around in the player's head. The party began immediately dealing anything they could to him. Selling off not strictly necessary body parts, and worse things for various benefits. One player sold his kidney for a name of a stronger demon, so he could summon that one and sell his soul to him in exchange for a demonic servant, trying to not at all subtly copy Black Butler. Instead of suave smooth expert, he got a slavering, stinking hunk of muscle stink demon.
The imp in question has already grown into the next echelon of demon, and is close to ascended again. The first person to sell himself to the demon is now a lich, and is offering to perform the ritual on anyone else he can to meet his characters goal of 'ending death'. In reality he's feeding all the souls he can to the imp. In the sequel campaign this demon is going to be one of several different potential world enders the party will have to stop.
No, palpatine's plan was to take over the galaxy and turn Luke Skywalker into his apprentice.
Palpatine was Lucas's character, and of the third party shit wrote about him is effectively fanfiction. There was absolutely no evidence of some extragalatic threat moving in or that Palpatine was secretly looking out for all living things.
Reminds me of that one time I ran a Chip's Challenge dungeon crawl.
>boy comes home 10 years after an unexplained panic attack
sexuallyassaulted by a moth