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"If you read this, it means you must have managed to defeat the dragon that stood of guard in front of the access of the temple: I have no words to say how much proud I am of you! You defeated your first dragon! That's worth 5 whole golden stars! (you'll find them at the bottom of this letter, all for you: don't forget to keep track of them, my joy and pride! They are stickers you can put wherever you want!) It's one of the most important stepstone to your path to become a real man, and I am sure that you will do it! Sadly at this time I am not here, but you all deserve a big warm hug. I wish I could be there to see you in this moment. I see how much you have grown: I remember like it was yesterday when you first started to swing your sword against those skeletons...without even knowing that they weren't much hurt by it either! But look at you now! I'd shed tears if I were right there. On the other hand, while I am not here, all you find in this room is your for the taking. Don't worry, no cursed stuff, I double checked! Also, I left you a large tray of chocolate chips cookies. I hope they'll still be warm when you'll find them. Take a small break, and enjoy yourself: I won't be doing stuff until next month! Keep an ear sharp about rumors about gates and demons, alright? I am sure you will manage to do that too.
With love,
-BBEG"


Your character ends up to deal with an oddly paternalistic/maternalistic BBEG. How would he react?
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Knowing my character, I'd poison the cookies, curse the items and find a new dragon to guard them, then let another party believe it was the BBEG and enjoy the resulting chaos.
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>>37185548

But that way you'd get no golden sticker stars!
Not that you deserved them, apparently.
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>"Ah, you -almost- counterspelled my demon portal summoning, my boy! A jolly good effort of you, well done! Have a star."
>"Now that my plan has succeeded and I have essentially won, I look forward to see how you seize the victory from the jaws of defeat. I know you can do it!"
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>>37185695
Hey the stickers ain't as satisfying as chaos and the cries of madness and war.
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>>37185823
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I find the concept... Interesting.

Maybe not the way OP described, but if an old adventurer, too old to fight anymore, finds a prophecy that tells of the return of a dark god. He then makes all this shit to find worthy adventurers that can defeat said god when he arrives.
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>>37185430
another take would be your party keeps finding these notes, but from your party's first BBEG which you defeated and killed decades ago.
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>>37185430
Well, it seems that this is the end of your quests. I know it must feel hard to have come so far, but I just want you to know that I'm so very proud of all of you!

And just remember! It's not about whether you win or lose, the princess is saved or killed, or the world is enshrouded in a thousand years of darkness or not! But whether or not you all did your best and had fun being all that you could be
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>>37185430

Interesting. What else do you have about this?
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>>37185823
Lies, nothing is more satisfying than getting a gold star.
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>>37185430

I read a short story like this at some point.

Turned out the hero was the BBEG's son. He was being trained and tested to make sure he could handle ruling the empire.
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I'd feel bad about killing that BBEG.

Then again, his/her dying words would probably be full of pride.
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>>37185430
I love this idea because of how much it would destroy my players brains. Oh, and my druid would probably see how genuine it was and feel super bad about harvesting all i could from the dragon's corpse
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>>37188093
It would seem like he was not actually evil, just doing evil things to prepare you to kill Chtulhu or something.
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>>37187963
Indeed!
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>>37185430
this is a great idea!
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>>37188391
that is a great comic!
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>>37185430
I'm saving this
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>>37185430
How maternal we talking about? And how will she "reward" us when we catch up to her?
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>>37188706
depends on the gm/group I'd imagine
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>>37188706
>The BBEG is madly in love with one of the party members
>The entire campaign is his/her attempt to challenge said party member so he/she can grow stronger
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>>37188391
Source?
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I can work with something like that.
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>>37191121
http://paranatural.net/
a wonderful webcomic
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>>37185430
That's surprisingly reassuring.
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>>37191241
Cheers, have a Vader
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I did this with the BBEG once to try and piss off my players who wanted to play an all evil campaign.

The big bad didn't feel they were worthy of facing him at the time until they did a bunch of silly self improvement bits and learned a bunch of lessons about teamwork and not being evil dickass murderhobos.

The dungeon was literally 98 rooms filled with continuous afterschool specials.

The big bad successfully redeemed 3 of the 5 players and then was murdered with those three by a gated in Baatezu summoned by one of the players who was a dedicated renegade for life.

In the end though everyone seemed pleased with the campaign.
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>Now you're ready to face the real evil!
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>>37187963
I disagree STRONGLY.
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Bump for situations
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You were defeated and captured! Don't worry, that won't cost you any gold stars and I don't think any less of you but maybe next time you should be more careful and always look out for your safety first.

You will have to escape. Keep calm and look around the cell you are being held in, I'm sure with your intelligence, skills and charm you can figure out a way to escape. (You are much smarter then the Orc guards!)

Before that though, you should make sure you eat up. I made you some stew and banana bread and there are some dry socks and a wool sweater because it's cold in prisons and I thought you could use some comfort food.

I'll send some extra blankets and tea if you don't escape by tomorrow.

All of my love;
Your Archnemsis.
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If they fail against the BBEG:

"I'm not mad, I'm just terribly disappointed."

That would cut so bad.
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>>37192319
Is she my archnemesis? Cuz if so, my character's gonna have to retire and I'm gonna have to roll up a warforged, he's too much of a horndog to fight her without a raging boner.
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>>37191315
This picture looks so ordinary when you look at the thumbnail but then you open it up and it just keeps evolving in front of your very eyes. I like a picture that does that.
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>>37185430
My character would totally fall for that. Though she won't admit it she's been b desperate for a good father figure ever since she fled her real parents. She'd start working extra hard to try to impress papa without really being aware she's doing it to earn that hug.

I just hope the BBEG is being genuine here.
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>>37185430
Why would such a cool guy be Evil?
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>>37192794
Trying to revive their real dead kids,
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>>37192818
Ok wakfu, I've seen pictures from you before, I get the barest hints of the world and now you throw this at me? I'll watch you now. I hope you're happy.
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>>37192794
Just because your evil doesn't mean you can't be nice. As well, if you knew you were destined to lose to a band of heroes wouldn't you want to make them as powerful as possible so that your final duel will set the heavens aflame, empty the seas and create new land marks in its wake?
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>>37192907
You made the right choice anon.
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>>37192907
it's really shitty, just looks pretty.
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>>37192907
Good job, you'll enjoy it. Though I will say give it a few episodes to pick up.
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>>37192907
Nox is in no way a paternalistic character, just saying.

Good villain though.
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>>37192551
>I just hope the BBEG is being genuine here.
Wouldn't you rather they not share an embrace like King Arthur and Mordred?
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>>37192794

You asked me why I do this when we last saw each other. I'm sorry I couldn't tell you then because I was in the middle of fighting off a desperate alliance of men and elves, but I thought you should know now.

Power, domination and the will to change the world to your vision are the only things that matter in this world. All those silly lies about good and evil and right and wrong don't matter, what matters is power and the will to use it.

And you have that! Every time I challenge you, every time you fight you get a little stronger and get closer to the potential that I know you have. When you can beat me, when your will and power are stronger then mine, I know I can trust you to impose your vision of what the world should be and be even greater then I have been.

Love, as always,
Your villian

PS: Please find enclosed an enchanted dagger for your rogue friend I forgot to put in the treasure I gave the ogre you killed last month. There is also a new hair ribbon. Please, you have a lovely face, why do you hide it behind your hair?
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>>37193002
.......Okay I REALLY like the way it looks so I have to ask. How long till it picks up, I stopped at #3. also do the voices get any less annoying?
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I actually ran with this a while back in a homebrew

>Immortal dark one that can only be killed by a true hero
>He cant off himself or let himself be killed he has to fight till the very end and always have some evil plan brewing
>Aside from that he was a pretty nice guy
>His minions weren't bloodthirsty death rapists but rather honor bound soldiers who followed codes
>Anytime anything resembling another evil popped up he'd snuff it out
>You'd think the PC's would like him NOPE
>Nigga he made them furious

>Melee pc trys fighting him and he just dodges around em giving them advice on how to attack better
>Magic pc's all get visionary advice on what to do next from the BBG himself, they dont trust it despite it being proven correct again and again
>party keeps finding notes and friendly doodles in their books and bags, as well as some useful items now and again
>He never mocks them, but their convinced he finds them pathetic
>Kinda backfired near the end
>Only time he ever went full evil is when one of party members tryed to serve him as a minion "essentially betraying the party" he turned her to dust on the spot
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>>37193039
Watch it in french with subs, it helps a lot with the voices
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>>37193039
The voices? Are you watching the horrible English dub or the original French?
As for the French, well you get used to them, the male voices I mean. The female voices I never had a problem with.
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>>37193047
>>Nigga he made them furious

I know right? this has gotta be one of the best ways to get your players pulses quickened.
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>>37193072
Ohhhhh okay. the sound was half the reason I stopped watching because GOD DAMN how could something that looks so good have sounds that make me want to pop my eardrums.
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>>37193112

It depends on the group, really.

The only one I've seen that always works is have the BBEG fuck with the NPC the table liked most.
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>>37193039
French or english? I don't think either ever really change or "get better," but the french voices quickly grew on me. Do NOT watch the english dub, go for subbed. I'm not being a quiabeaux, but dub is the only way to go for Wakfu. Remember dubbed anime from the 80s/90s, and how it was utter shit not because it was filthy baka gaijin VAs, but because the producers couldn't be arsed to find anyone that could read the lines halfway decently? Well it's back in full force with Wakfu. Ruel sounds like a raspy grandfather in french, but fucking Grover in english, and the unnecessary New Jersey accent on Percidal is grating; the rest are poor to okay in terms of both acting ability and style of voice, but those two are the cream of the crap.

Also the english dub added a lot of unnecessary grunts and action-y sounds. Poor choices all around.
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>>37193207
>Also the english dub added a lot of unnecessary grunts and action-y sounds.
OMG I hated those so much. I felt like a toddler getting keys waved in it's face.
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>>37193254
I honestly don't get what happened with the dub. Did the creators give all the rights and their kickstarter cash to an I-don't-give-a-shit studio for localization? Did they think so little of american audiences that they felt making it into a saturday-morning shonen show was what we wanted? That it was to only way to be successful? Did a localizing studio exec keep sticking his dick into it?

What the fuck happened that made Ankama drop the ball so fucking hard?
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>>37193047
I like this. I don't know exactly why.
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>>37185430

First, this will work really well with a character who never knew the mother/father. It could work as a "parent left so you would grow strong and tough" story.

Second, what about flipping it and having the BBEG be a son/daughter? Evil kids are much less common than evil parents.

If you use this, things like cookies need more context. Did the parent fix cookies before? That kind of thing. Otherwise they are nothing more than filler.
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>>37185430
She was the unwanted child of a prostitute, so it would be very uncomfortable and unsettling for her
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>>37185430
This sounds fucking adorable.
He's just a necessary obstacle for you to overcome and knows it. Because of that why not be apart of the growth?
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>>37185430

My last character was an orphan that always wanted to have her own family but ended up unadopted 'till she left the orphanage when she was an adult.
I think she'd go for it in an heartbeat, seeing if she could convince him to stop "world destruction" stuff. Also getting him a "World's Best Dad" coffee mug most likely, if he's willing to "adopt" her properly.
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>>37188052
Do you happen to remember where that story may be? That would be awesome.
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>>37188391
I'm fairly certain it isn't, BUT please tell me this is a running comic!?
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>>37191039
Thanks.
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>>37195810

>>37191241
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>>37191261
>>37191039
>>37188391
>>37185780
I love everything about this thread.
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Thanks!
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>>37188706
Well great now I have to go find that doujin again.
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>>37191039

Source?
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>>37195967
I dunno, it was in a thread I saw over here a good while ago. Lemme see if I can find it from the archives...
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>>37192349

So - kind od Katamari Damacy King the All Universe/ Little Prince relationship?
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>>37195957
What doujin would this be?
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>>37195957
>>37197367
Here you go anons
http://pururin.com/gallery/16898/layers-of-white.html
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>>37197442
...welp. It's...yeah...
I will never understand Japan.
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>>37193568
>It could work as a "parent left so you would grow strong and tough" story.
A "The Boy Names Sue" scenario?
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>>37195967
Did... did you not read the OP?
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>>37198312
May have misquoted, too.
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>>37196002
I don't think that works without working for the bbeg directly.
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It wasn't this silly, but I had a campaign with a half-dragon lizardfolk being left letters and messages by the BBEG constantly. She was incredibly confused and a little disgusted because she thought the BBEG was a crazed stalker for her or something.

Then it turned out to be a black dragon who also happened to be her father, and he was serious about her growth because he (cliche I know) wanted to rule the world as father and daughter. Unlike Mark Hamill, she took the offer, and the party had to fight them both.
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>oh boy! looks like you encountered my team of the assassins and bested them! I'm so proud of you, young hero! Here, take this golden star sticker as token of your achievement!

Also, tell your wizard who gonna betray your party of his own egotistical personal gain: I'm really, really, really disappointed of him. I thought he better then this.

But don't worry about this no-do-gooder, I'll can't wait our meeting in my dark tower! I'm preparing some s'mores, cocoa and some good old sacrifice to the old gods! Be sure bring MacGuffin with you! You will need it.

With best regards, Your BBEG.
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>>37195967
It's literally just a screenshot of the OP
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>Party forgets to set up watch they wake up to a superior camp with breakfast and a note saying that they should be more careful who knows what is lurking in these woods.
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>>37197541
Don't worry no one does.
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>>37200162
that is a 5 gold star post right there!
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>>37192818
That shit ain't funny.
I wasn't ready for those feels from such a noblebright kids' series.
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What about this idea:
The stars are handed out as a reward for using underhanded tactics and general evil-leaning behavior.
They can be exchanged for easy solutions to dungeon challenges, in such a way that if you are trying to stop the BBEG from acting out a particular scheme earning a few stars could end up doing more good than harm. But you're still doing evil.
>Good job on stealing those supplies, you're becoming more and more like your old man. I am so proud of you.
>Now is no time to be stingy! Spend some golden stars to immediately break down this wall.
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>>37191241
>>37188391
Jesus the facial expressions in this comic are awesome

It's like one big pile of reaction images
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>>37200773
I know, right!
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>>37200832
It's really a shame that most are just too small to make something proper out of
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>>37185430
>Your character ends up to deal with an oddly paternalistic/maternalistic BBEG. How would he react?
Played against one of those, TPK
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>>37200933
Fuck off with that already, I got it the first time and don't want to ever see this shit on /tg/ again.
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>>37200950

Agreed. It's pretty horrifying.
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>>37200950
but dont you want to ascend into glorious assfat anon?
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>>37200950
>>37200995
I'm more concerned as to why the party went with the unbirthing-fetish succubus instead of any other option...
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>>37201384
Apathy mostly, that and she gave us free stuff. Also she never (seriously) attacked us until the end so we figured we could diplomancy our way out
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>>37200933
While going well into the creepy fetish territory I think of this as a good example of showing players why they should think twice before making pacts with demons and doing other stupid stuff.

Also I laughed because of the wizard, thanks
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>>37200933
Go away.

>>37201050
Shush.

>>37201384
No.

>>37201513
No.

>>37201597
NO

Have a puppy. Now let's get back on the rails, all right? ANY rails. Please.
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>>37185430

Hm...I wonder what are all the possibilities for this kind of BBEG "quirk".
The ones I can come up with are:
-He's just mocking the party
-He's trying to confuse the party
-He's actually the father of a party member if not of all of them
-He's -not- the father of a party members, but he's sort of crazy and believes to be so
-He's just -really- lonely.

In the later cases, if he was sincere about it, the question is : how come he's into evil stuff?
Someone in this thread said something about an ex-adventurer trying to train the party for a bigger thing.
But I was thinking: would a scenario where he "must" do the things he does count? And/or just not-too-secretly hoping someone will stop him?
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>>37201938
>if not all of them
Black Dynamite BBEG?
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>>37191261
Huh.
An elf would make a great pet/child/companion for a lich now that I think about it.

It would keep them sane and feeling somewhat youthful, and the lich would be the only human they'd get to know their whole life.
Hell, a half-elf who's human parent becomes a lich.
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>>37192907
http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Wakfu

Here you go.
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>>37201838
It's sooo cute b-but... I can't take care of a puppy all by myself, what if I forget to feed it properly? ;_;

comical odsmentk
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>>37193333
They used another studio, that studio cheaped out on them. Greatly.

Like great anime of the 80's with their horribly early 90's dubbing.
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>>37201938
A bbeg who is a relative, perhaps via marriage, of the whole party would be funny
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>>37192319
jesus christ its like looking at a manikin.
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>>37195957
to sad panda with you then.
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>>37201050
That's not the succugoddess that turns people into assfat anon
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>>37202099
Dofus is good too.
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>>37202031
The BBEG is a bard.....
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>>37202948
daymn son.

I'm kinda sad I didn't continue my French classes after ninth grade. There's all kinds of awesome shit going on in that country.
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>>37203562
Such as all the awesome cartoonishly drawn vaguely porn comics.

In America it's all half-assed and poorly-drawn fanservice shit where it's tits and asses everywhere without ever actually showing a thing. Atrocious.

Sorry for /co/ rant.
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>>37203562
Their comics are even better.
But there's gems like this too.
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>>37203707
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>>37187963
What about getting two?
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>>37185430
Well my party would go full on Redemption Mode. We couldn't kill him, so we'd try to save him.
Also applicable to hot female BBEGs who don't really put their heart into killing us.
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>>37202099
>Yugo is a god now
When and how the fuck did that happen?!
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>>37203761
But what if they are really trying to make you the best hero possible AND are giving it all to kill you, or at least do horrible things to you Zoom style.
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>the notes and cookies are actually from the BBEG's henchman
>It's always signed with the BBEG's name because the henchman doesn't have a real name and does the BBEG's paperwork anyways
>His only skills involve working evil so he can't get a day job and is stuck working with the BBEG
>I mean, he could go dig ditches or something, but BBEG pays well and he's just sure you guys will stop the plot anyways

He just has to keep you guys encouraged and it'll all work out.
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>>37185430
My character is the BBEG's daughter, but he is distant and left her on a church doorstep, if he got replaced by a paternalistic/maternalistic she'd be either confused at the concept, or if the BBEG was in some way redeemable, she'd just go along with it and try and calm them down and make them new parent.
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>>37186329
So... basically Palpatines plan?
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>>37195799
Was it Order Of The Stick? its been forever since I've read that, but I half swear that was a plot point at one point.
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>>37204170
A similar thing, but actually the hero was being trained and tested to -defeat- the BBEG.

Also the BBEG was actually a low-grade miniboss with an overinflated ego, but that's neither here nor there. He still fit pretty well for this thread until he started to lose his cool.
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>>37204206
Yeah it was Elan's dad right? He wanted his son to defeat him just to cap off his career as secret overlord of the land, because of a flair for the dramatic? I honestly stopped reading around that arc, not for any particular reason, just got a little bored, there might've also been a hiatus.
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>>37202436
either way they are all gonna get smote by my holy water lubed spear
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>>37204484
There's been multiple really bad hiatuses.

Yeah, he had a villainous blue screen of death when he realized his son wasn't the main character and was left banging his feet and fists on the sand in the desert about not being the big bad as a result.
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So now that we're talking about Tarquin, how will this guy react when defeated? And more specifically, what're the odds the player party would defeat him in a way he would not enjoy?
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>>37203967
I like this idea even better.
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>>37206872
in an anticlimactic or boring wayI would guess. maybe hiring some other people to take care of it.
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>>37208782
Dies offscreen.
At that point of dramatic dying where he can't see anymore, so Elan tells him he's in the middle of the panel and surrounded by grieving minions and fist-shaking foes when in reality he's offscreen while Roy gives the rest of the party orders. Totally alone otherwise.
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>>37192404

>-1 billy club
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>>37203829
Always was. He just reincarnates. Or something.
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After the party clears a particularly hard dungeon where they were told the princess was being kept, they find a note on the back of a map in the treasure room.

>Don't worry guys if your reading this note here that means you have cleared a far more difficult challange then the one needed to save the princess. Also take these dragon slaying arrows they should come in handy, as she is guarded by one lone dragon you can find them on the map. Best of luck!

>With love, BBEG
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>>37204170

No, this was a short story published in an anthology, not a webcomic.

I -think- it was one of the stories in this set, but I had trouble finding a list:

http://www.ebooks.com/411864/if-i-were-an-evil-overlord/greenberg-martin-h-ed--davis-russell-ed/
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>>37215313
I didn't even know of this one.
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This is how I BBEG
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>>37217671
What about when the party finds your stash? What then?
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>>37217681
Then I lose.
But I have control as long as I have monopoly over it.
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>>37191525
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>>37198893

> implying King of All Universe done anything wrong
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>>37190436
Your BBEG is Vriska Serket?
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>>37193047
Can you give more storytime? I want to know how the party responded to the dustification of the betrayer and how it all ended.
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>>37218112
Or Professor Zoom
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>>37192794
He sees the potential in the protagonist to be a fantastic hero, they just need the right nemesis to overcome. Somebody who can prepare for real evil later on and deliver the hero's first punches with a stern but caring fist and a glass of milk after.
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>>37203707
>>37203733

Source?
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I wonder will he send gifts to them on Christmas-ish day to the heroes?
what kinda of gift he expect from them to him?
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>>37218284
I think he would send a comfy sweater to the paladin, new sheath for fighter's sword and pair of good wool socks for the wizard. Rogue gets coal because he is a dick-ass thief.
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>>37218284
A velvet lined arming cap.
He's a nice guy.
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>>37218284
>the BBEG is father christmas, who acts like a villain to inspire more heroes
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So, what does the party get them for Father's Day?
Or Mothers day if it's a female I guess.
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>>37220106
A sword to the heart and a dagger to the back.

And an unimaginable amount of bitch tears if done right.
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My character is an orphan, so she'd probably join the BBEG if given the chance.
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Damn I have a BBEG that's perfect for this. I need to make her start writing letters.
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I am so happy this thread is still around. Can someone archive this thread please?
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>>37220817
You could do it, it's not that hard, just remember to add the relevant tags.
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>>37202109
Just give it to the succubus
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>>37221679

Ew no she'll shove it in her vagina

I may not be an expert at caring for puppies but I'm relatively certain that you don't involve your genitals in the process
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>>37222211
Obviously you're wrong
Succumilf knows best after all
Now if you'd just be a good little boy and follow the puppy....
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>>37222263

Nigga I'd have killed that thing as soon as it started chowing down on innocents. I don't need a whole greentext to tell me that a demon who's acting friendly will only act friendly until I can't stand up to them anymore, and "tricked into getting eaten by a vagina" is pretty low on my list of ways I'd like to die. It's definitely on there, don't get me wrong, I'm just not going to LET it happen.
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>>37221679
>>37222211
>>37222263
>>37222349
Can we seriously just fucking stop talking about that thing already?
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>>37220106
An invitation to join the party as a hero.
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>>37220106
I think something highly sentimental, hand-maded and totally expensive. Something that will shed a single tear of joy and proudness. And full of explosive runes.
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>>37222349
>"tricked into getting eaten by a vagina" is pretty low on my list of ways I'd like to die.
I'll admit it's only midway down mine
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So... with MY party at least, I know that this whole thing would have a bigger impact if the BBEG was a woman. What about you guys?
Is this more, I guess potent, if it was a man or a woman?
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>>37222967
Woman
Particularly succumilf
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>>37222967
They would have different sort of behavior and emphasis, but ultimately either one would work in about equal measure.
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>>37222967
it's pretty much the same regardless of gender really.
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>>37222967
I'm not actually sure, I think it would probably be funnier if it was a man being so doting towards his enemies.

If it was a woman I could see the pcs being way to into trying to fuck her, at best going with the 'lawful hot dickings' excuse.
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>>37223103
I have a couple female players: trust me, the gender really isn't an issue here - lawful hot dickings would be attempted regardless.
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>>37222967
I'm more into "I'm your big brother/big sis who never let you down" then parental relationship on this one. But in that one case, both will do fine. Especially when in duet.
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>>37185430
>"I have no words"
>followed by words
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>>37203829
He wielded all six Eliatrope Dofus at once to fight Ogrest in the 3-part special episodes they did that follow up S2. It's pretty much Wakfu: The Movie and it's fucking great.

They haven't explained how the things he did made him a racial God like The Twelve, but apparently it had effects that weren't directly shown in the episodes, other than the brutal chaos and destruction that resulted from the fight.

Lotta shit changed in the lore because of what happened in those episodes.
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>>37198289
You should listen to Cash's sequel to that song.
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I wanted to do something like megabyte in reboot where the character is the final villain but you're forced to deal with him in multiple day to day situations.

Said villain would even have a soft spot for some of the characters(see megabyte in the episode with enzo's birthday) but continue to be a glorious bastard whenever possible.
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>>37223123
Probably but I know one guy in my group who would be capable of derailing everything into that singular goal. And he'd be less likely to think of and make it the single objective of the campaign.
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>>37223222
So a Shadowrun campaign?
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>>37223163
There was a sequel?

I have never heard of such a thing before.
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>>37223222
Make him the King of the land.
Fully supported and loved by his people with an army of loyal and just knights at his side, but on the side he likes to do shit to fuck with the heroes, partly for his entertainment, partly for secret reasons that no one knows about.

The players can stop his plans and stop any damage from his shenanigans, but they can't attack the King without becoming infamous criminals who would be attacked and executed on sight. The King might even tease and mock them along the way, but at the end of the day he still goes back to being the beloved King.
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>wants to be a hero, has essentially managed it despite acting like a pointy-eared Jack Bauer with anger issues
>hates his parents for trying to marry him off to some girl he never even met
This would end... interestingly.
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>>37223335
Or a minor god when a heroes are demigods on their way to achieving a godhood. Higher power selected him to challenge, test heroes worthiness in various ways. He actually a really nice and swell guy, but it's his job to do: test new gods and making sure they will not figure it out before right moment.
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>>37223489
My other thought, to match OP's idea, would be for the BBEG to literally be one of the first people. Part of the first civilization to have ever lived from whom all other species and civilizations descended from. Literally the parent to all of the sapient races that currently exist.

They could just be angry with their descendants for letting the world get so messed up. They were never supposed to interact with monsters or meet the dragons or dabble in dark magic, but they did and now Daddy/Mommy wants someone to be a good child and clean up the mess they made.
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>>37223542
Not angry. Just... Disappointed.
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>>37223154
Can you link to that because I haven't found anything like that.
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>>37223776
http://www.wakfu.com/en/mmorpg/news/announcements/426155-trailer-equal-god
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>>37223875
Oh, it is for the games. Thought the episodes were released.
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>>37224033
They are. I grabbed them off nyaatorrents I think, since they don't have it up on brotherhood of tofu.

I'd recommend watching Wakfu season 1 and 2, the Nox and Goultard specials, then read the franga (I think they are about done with tome 3), and then watch the specials.

The stuff with Yugo becoming "The God-King" is an in-game lore sort of thing as a result of the stuff that happens in the 3 special episodes.
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>>37224144
>Brotherhood of tofu doesn't have them
>Nyaa does
What. Well at least now I know where to look. They're subed right?
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>>37224403
Fully subbed and in good quality.
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>>37224483
Do I need to read the manga before watching them? Because for some reason I haven't yet gotten around doing it.
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>>37224483
Awesome. Time for wakfu.
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>>37188706
>>37190436
Fuck off, Weekend Smut Thread, no one likes you
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>>37224504
>>37224504
First chunk of the Franga is a lot of neat stuff. You get to see what became of a lot of the characters and you get to see some nice downtime stuff. Then shit hits the fan.

All you really need to know is that they went looking for all 6 of the Eliatrope Dofus and found them due to some extenuating circumstances. Also, Eva and Grovy totally hooked up and had babies together.

Shit got super real and Jiva fucked everything up... again. Then adventure happened.

But the weird thing is that Ankama didn't release all 3 volumes before they released the episodes, I think.. I might be wrong though. Either way, the special episodes only briefly mention the jist of the Franga happenings. They found the Dofuses (Dofii?) and that's all you need to know.
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>>37224575
The entire Weekend does.
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>>37224630
Yeah, but it's the middle of the goddamn week, so they'll just have to wait.
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>>37224575
I am honestly just a little dissapointed with how uncleverly they handled it. Like instead of having the heroes misinterpret the BBEG's interest as something romantic.

Because their really isn't much of the Paternalistic/Materialistic dynamic with just having the BBEG interest be romance.
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>>37201938
I like the idea that the BBEG is just doing it because he thinks it's funny. Nothing necessarily malicious or tragic about the quirk, just the idea of acting like a concerned parent to the people trying to kill you is hilarious to him and he's playing it straight for the laughs.
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>>37225511
That does sound a bit fun but to me it feels like it lacks the truth needed to really make the joke. I prefer the idea that he's so hyped about the upcoming fight between good and evil and just wants it to be perfect so he's making his enemies stronger to showcase how great he is.
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>>37200933
Fuck off /d/, you aren't funny.
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>>37225742
The general responses that gets says otherwise
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>>37225742
Stop looking at /d/ and we can actually move past it. I don't want to see that shit fetish revive again on this thread.
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>>37225800
> I don't want to see that shit fetish revive again ever.

FTFY
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>>37225816
You are right, but at this point I don't want it on my funny villains thread.
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>>37225800
>>37225816
Is it bad that the only time I want to post fetishshit is when people are complaining about fetishshit?
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>>37225844
No, I understand your spite.

But you should try to be better then that.
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>>37225844
It's kind of understandable: a lot of people just want to stick it to the whiners, do stuff they hate just to spite them.

I'd like to respectfully ask you not to, though. Please.
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>>37201938
You can also have him be an evil overlord who knows he WILL be defeated by the heroes of proficy and he wants them to be as strong and heroic as possible when the time comes so that it can be said he was taken out by the greatest heroes ever instead of some scrubs.

And this is they only way he can think to help them on their way.
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>>37200755
Why not both?

One BBEG is the pseudo-mother who wants them to grow up to be good, legendary heroes, while the other BBEG is the pesudo-father who wants them to follow the adventurer-family tradition and bring evil to the land.

Their can be wacky parent hi-jinks of them trying to out do each other, but in the end they want the adventurers to decide for themselves.
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>>37185430

...It's just me that sees this kind of BBEG as an evil (?) version of pic related?
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>>37226375
Muh negroid!
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>>37226375
That sounds... pretty fantastic.
Just arcane runes hidden fucking EVERYWHERE, along with pretty nice prizes, but to the point of the party getting actually sick of them.
"If you are reading this, you finally managed to find the treasure room that I set to teleport between my multiple lairs. Congratulations, you are heroes now. Here's a set of magical amulets for you all to wear, and I've taken the liberty of writing the rough draft of a song bards will sing about you into the ages"
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>>37226375
Or pic related.

Cant forget pic related.
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So how do you think your pc's would take the death of this BBEG?
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>>37227969
My PC's called me a douchebag and thew dice at me when they realized they would have to kill the BBEG in front of his daughter, who had been a recurring NPC that helped them on countless occasions.
They didn't know her dad was the BBEG until 3/4 of the way through the campaign, and almost punched me because they found out when BBEG visited his daughter in town for a picnic.
No, this was not a comedy campaign.
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>>37228038
Well that shows you've done a good job at getting your players invested in your world.
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>>37185430
>mfw I look at the note, look at the other characters, then put the stickers on my rifle, then walk off
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>I never had a family of my own. I just wanted to give the citizens of Oz everything they wanted.
I love the idea of a villain passive aggressively running a civilization into stagnation and then ruin just because he approached being a ruler with the same mentality as being a coddling parent. Incidentally as forever GM, my character is the oddly paternalistic BBEG; he reacts by being oddly paternal.
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>>37202948
Why does this give me a boner? What has my life become?
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>>37228778
It just means you have been seduced by that those swaying french hips. That is surprisingly normal for here.

Or your into doggirls still pretty normal for tg
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>>37228870
>Doggirls
>Not the Iop or the Osa on the ends.
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>>37229030
Then I fail to see any reason for regrets so fap happy anon.
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>>37200755

'little low on gold stars? The chappie up at the front is selling them for just fifteen gold a pop!"

THAT'S RIGHT! MICROTRANSACTIONS!
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>>37229177
That doesn't sound like a caring parent, that doesn't sound like a caring parent at all.
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>>37218257

"les Lascars", its a french animated movie. unfortunately there's no english dub, as far as I know.
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>>37229446
Reminds me of Wakfu
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>>37185430
>Your character ends up to deal with an oddly paternalistic/maternalistic BBEG. How would he react?

It didn't work out so well for this guy...
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>>37185430
ask him if he knows a good way to get a blood stain out of a traveling cloak
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>>37229446
Dubs are shit anyway. Are there subs?
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>>37229737
Well he really only tried that when he knew he was fucked.

But on the plus side was able to quote him in my Senior Seminar.
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>>37230091
Yes, but I can't remember where they are.
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So what would be the best class/monster for such a BBEG?
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>>37234094
Succubus
Thrallheard
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>>37185430
"...You know, I *do* really miss my dead mom and dad."

And then the BAD END happens.
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>>37229177
>the BBEG is an EA executive
THE HORROR
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>>37229177
That's an idea on its own, but not really one for this thread.
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Wolzard from magiranger was kinda like this actually.

He was the father of the rangers, having sacrificed himself to seal the evil demon god of badness in the last fight to stop it. He lost of his memory and became its servant. But he had shades of this left in him. He couldn't actually bring himself to kill his wife instead imprisoning her. And was semi-paternal whenever the heroes gave him a good fight. He kinda ahad a Darth Vader/Luke relationship with the Red Ranger.
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>>37237744
Or a good end, it you can survive the rest of the party.
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>>37200915
Some are pretty good
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>>37234094
Human
Bard
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>>37242136
Warlord would fit better I think.
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>>37193207
>quiabeaux
Holy hell my sides!
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>>37201597
I did this in my campaign. One of my players died due a demon attack, so in death he was offered a chance to live again, at a price. He chose eternal vassalage to the demon (an imp, more a salesperson for his out of the picture boss then anything.) So said imp stuck around in the player's head. The party began immediately dealing anything they could to him. Selling off not strictly necessary body parts, and worse things for various benefits. One player sold his kidney for a name of a stronger demon, so he could summon that one and sell his soul to him in exchange for a demonic servant, trying to not at all subtly copy Black Butler. Instead of suave smooth expert, he got a slavering, stinking hunk of muscle stink demon.

The imp in question has already grown into the next echelon of demon, and is close to ascended again. The first person to sell himself to the demon is now a lich, and is offering to perform the ritual on anyone else he can to meet his characters goal of 'ending death'. In reality he's feeding all the souls he can to the imp. In the sequel campaign this demon is going to be one of several different potential world enders the party will have to stop.
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>>37204065
No, palpatine's plan was to take over the galaxy and turn Luke Skywalker into his apprentice.

Palpatine was Lucas's character, and of the third party shit wrote about him is effectively fanfiction. There was absolutely no evidence of some extragalatic threat moving in or that Palpatine was secretly looking out for all living things.
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>>37243521
What does this mean?
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>>37246115
I'd guess they'd be something like a weeaboo but for france instead of nipland.
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>>37246559
Aah, makes sense.
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>>37246115
>>37246559
>>37248439
It's literally weaboo spelled using french words/phonetics you fucking idiots
Qui = wee
Beaux = boo
Hence, quiabeaux.
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>>37248519
Nifty thanks for the french lesson.
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>>37248519
It's 'oui', not 'qui'

'eau/eaux' is 'oo', though.
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>>37248519
Shouldn't that Q be an O, then?
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I'd probably have to write him a letter.
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>>37248840
>Ouiabeaux
>yes, beautiful
lol
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Reminds me of that one time I ran a Chip's Challenge dungeon crawl.
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>>37197442
So was the middle part what was actually happening or just his imagination?
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>>37249703
>level 142 is a pentacle
do tell your story though
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>>37197442
>boy comes home 10 years after an unexplained panic attack
>is immediately sexually assaulted by a moth
Well
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>>37249703
Oh god that game... So many fond memories of not completing it because of some level with like 20 keys and 24 doors.
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>>37237144
But you've named the same thing
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