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/tg/, how can we fix fantasy rpg economies?
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>>54395044
Switch gold pieces to silver pieces, for a start.
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>>54395044
a "gold piece" is actually a gold-colored copper piece that represents its face value instead of being literally gold
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More bartering.

Have any of you had experience with your party working together to pilot/sail/drive/control a vehicle of some kind? Be it mech, ship, tank, whatever, I'm curious to hear how it functioned and your thoughts on it.

My players just got a 12-crew boat and I want to ensure that everyone has something to do and can directly contribute to the vessel, but I'm not sure how.
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I think Rogue Trader has a system like this and Seventh Sea probably does too. There's got to be a DnD module that brings something similar
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Look at Sea of Thieves. It's a video game but had similar concepts
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>>54393527

RT does it better than anything else I've seen. And even they have the classic two problems.

First, the only tactically interesting job is pilot. Everyone else's job is "roll to not fuck up". Gunner? Roll to hit or miss AKA fuck up. Engineer? The job varies from game to game but whether he's reinforcing shields, overclocking engines, or repairing damage, it's rolling to not fuck up. Etc etc. Even the Captain in most systems.

The other problem is roll isolation. AKA the Shadowrun problem. Everybody takes his turn doing his thing in his role on the ship, then goes off and waits while everyone else does their thing in their own worlds.

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What is in your opinion the worst thing about D&D 5e (please only post things that are intrinsic to this edition of the game and not the game itself)?
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It is bland.

Don't get me wrong, I DM'ed Mines of Phandelver as it was excellent, used "theather-of-the-mind" in one dungeon, minis and squares in another, zones (each room, cutout as a puzzle piece) in the other, as it was great.

But the rule system is bland. It looks like WotC feared the same backlash they had with 4e, so they returned to 3.x, added successful 4e mechanics to it (encounter disguised as short rest, hit dice), obfuscated the cogs that made the system work and kept into the safe space of the know.

It lacks the "humpf" of trying, of innovating. If someone released it on /tg/ as 3.75 or "what PF could have been", no one would bat an eye.

What is a shame. As I recall, the playtest Fighter and Sorcerer were awesome.
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>>54392781
Basically this.
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>>54392305
Low bonuses compared to the dice range. Bound accuracy isn't a bad idea, but it doesn't work in execution, especially when also applied to skills.

Advantage is not a bad mechanic, but it doesn't scale at all (and exacerbates the issue with dice randomness+small modifiers). I massively prefer SotDL's boon/bane system.

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>I drink the water elemental
how would you respond /tg/?
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You sure you want to try and put a hostile creature inside your own body?
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Make a fortitude save.
>Pass
You hold it in and slowly absorb it. As it trashes in your gullet it hits you automatically for 1d3+1 rounds.
>Fail
You throw up uncontrollably as the entity tries to escape your body. You are now fighting a vomit elemental.

>90% of campaigns are high fantasy dungeon crawls where the party meet in a tavern then get a quest
>Campaigns are planned first with characters being created once everything is already written, instead of writing the story around the characters
>Campaigns are run with such large groups that devoting any screentime to individuals is completely implausible, resulting in a lack of player agency and simplified archetypal character personas
>People are more interested in dice rolls and builds than roleplaying and character development
>People think roleplaying is when your orc murder marathon is momentarily interrupted by a moral dilemma
>Most players don't even know what 'metagaming' means
>Males playing female characters and vice versa is considered degeneracy even though creating and playing as characters who aren't like you is the entire point
>Players inhabit a cardboard cut-out of a world designed solely around a single questline, with varying degrees of railroading
>Players don't describe their characters actions, they just say 'I attack' or 'I roll to intimidate'
>In the unlikely event that players do describe their actions, GMs stare at them in confusion before asking them to clarify if they're rolling to attack or rolling to intimidate
>Kobolds
>So many fucking kobolds
>Characters have no establishing scenes and no interparty relationships, they just appeared and now they're doing shit together
>Characters splitting up to do their own thing is either grounds for a salty storytime or downright unheard of
>Characters have no motivations or goals beyond fulfilling whatever objective the GM pulled out of his ass and maybe one other token aspiration that will never be actually addressed in-game
>The deepest insight most GMs give into their world is 'the house is old' or 'the Lich has 5 HP left'
>Most NPCs consist of one trait and a quirky accent

Explain yourselves.
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That's rough buddy?
We're not being paid for this you know.
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>>54387280
Not going to deny that what you describe is how a lot of games end up, to varying degrees. But so what? Sometimes that's all a player and DM want to do - and they'll have fun with it.

Players who want to lean more heavily into character development and improv acting can keep trying different groups until they find one that can cater to their tastes.
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>>54387280
>Campaigns are planned first with characters being created once everything is already written, instead of writing the story around the characters

As a player and GM both I can only regard the GMs who do this with a mix of pity and disgust

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Why are so many people so angry about non traditional fantasy races?
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>>54371320
They are snowflake bait.
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>>54371351
Yeah how dare anyone try to do something original? Everyone should ape tolkien elves and dorfs forever.
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Backlash against memes that they never actually encountered in real life and if they did they didn't know how to handle.

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What's your opinion on fake Chinese MTG cards? Has anyone had experiences with them? Would you dob an opponent in if you suspected they were using fakes?

Maybe it's a good thing for fakes to get better and better as it opens up more expensive formats to people who can't afford to play them,
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The problem I have with any card game in general is the prices, however being an investment type of deal Chinamen proxy cards circulating have a real good chance of hurting someone who's put real money into the game. I think they're fine for cube but I really don't like the idea of supporting someone else getting burned on value
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>>54354500
>Would you dob an opponent in if you suspected they were using fakes?
Only if I was losing
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>>54354500

Don't give a fuck, I welcome a change to the "pay to win" mentality of Magic. All those salty neckbeard tears when someone has a 20 dollar deck with the same cards as their 10.000 dollar decks is just hilarious

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Check for copyrights before you post anything directly.

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Please! Degenesis: Rebirth / The Killing Game,

Would it work?
For the uninformed, the manga/show is about a gigantic hole on a desolate island that is so deep that nobody ever reached the bottom yet, with all kinds of ancient artifacts hidden in it and primeval beasts dwelling below that has become a huge hub for adventurers to come to in search for riches.
A group of adventurers trying to climb down as far as they can would make for a pretty fun setting in my eyes. Could probably work really well as a 'hardcore' setting, too, where player death is rather common while always having an easy way to add new characters to the party.

Would ultimately probably just be a simple loot raid campaign, but I can still see the potential to have quite some fun with it.
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Yes on the following conditions

>No forced child characters
>Make curse burden a legitimate obstacle to overcome.
>Make overcoming curse burdens the hardest part of character progression as you get to the 3rd layer and below
>Steal any artifact ideas you can from any setting, players are supposed to return them to the surface and purchase them legitimately otherwise they risk being disowned by the Organization (if they want to go that route let them though)

It has merits for a setting for sure.
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>>54352462
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>>54352752
Of course no forced child characters, especially not past a few hundred meters in.
The other points are pretty much how I'd imagine things would work. The curse effects and resisting them would probably be the hardest part to implement, but I suppose they'd fall under general vitality/constitution saves or just be based on your character level. For D&D as the system, making a curse save using your Proficiency bonus would probably best represent it.

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Standard thread for all you magic players I want to build a deck with this card but having trouble putting it in something
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>>54333206
That's because it's a shitty card, anon.
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>>54333206
It costs 8 mana, and won't even win the game by itself. This has absolutely no use in standard. With zero way to cheat out enchantments in standard, you wouldn't even be able to get it out in any deck other than a ramp deck, and if you're ramping to 8 you might as well drop an eldrazi instead.
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So I'm thinking that a G/R ramp deck might be be viable in standard. I put together just a quick little list not using anything past Kaladesh seeing as those sets are about to rotate out. What do you think? List is currently:
// 60 Maindeck
// 2 Artifact
2 Traveler's Amulet

// 22 Creature
4 Shefet Monitor
4 Glorybringer
2 Ramunap Excavator
4 Ramunap Hydra
2 Greenbelt Rampager
4 Sand Strangler
2 Khenra Scrapper

// 2 Enchantment
2 Unbridled Growth

// 2 Instant
2 Abrade

// 24 Land
2 Sheltered Thicket
4 Hashep Oasis
2 Desert of the Fervent
2 Desert of the Indomitable
2 Hostile Desert
6 Forest
6 Mountain

// 8 Sorcery
2 Rhonas's Last Stand
2 Hour of Promise
2 Beneath the Sands
2 Attune with Aether


// 15 Sideboard
// 2 Artifact
SB: 2 Rhonas's Monument

// 1 Enchantment
SB: 1 Durable Handicraft

// 6 Instant
SB: 2 Struggle // Survive
SB: 2 Life Goes On
SB: 2 Hungry Flames

// 6 Sorcery
SB: 4 Sweltering Suns
SB: 2 Rhonas's Last Stand

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>called Pathfinder
>literally zero focus on finding paths
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> Dungeons & Dragons

> characters explore dungeons
> and fight dragons (sometimes)

Makes you think, huh?
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>GURPS
>not a singular gurp in the entire game, and certainly not plural of them
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>Fantasy Craft
>no mechanics dedicated to creating works of fiction involving magic

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Can chads play Dungeons and Dragons and other tabletops? Is it possible or is it just a meme that only socially isolated nerds play tabletops? Has Lord of the Rings and Elder Scrolls bridged the gap between nerds and chads?
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Fuck that.

I play FANTASY games to escape Chads and normies and their bullshit, not deal with them.
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>normies REEE
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>>54409934
>Can chads play Dungeons and Dragons and other tabletops?

Who's gonna stop them, you?

Don't make me laugh!

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WWWWWRRRRRYYYYYY edition

Previous Thread: >>54406511

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inb4 prancing la-la homo men ruin this general too
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*blacks your path*

What do you do?
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First for idiots that thought that index was everything 8th had to offer

Codex time son.

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Last Throg
>>54397907
Paste Nyaa
http://pastebin.com/vrqYhnpu
>Awooo
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>>54407380
this is good bread
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>>54407370
I approve of your homage

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What the fuck is wrong with GW modern artworks?
Just look at pic related. It looks like it was drawn by an eight-year-old retard.
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I disagree. Modern GW art is great.
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>>54406669
It's fine, it;s just a fantastical map.
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>>54406691
horrible

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