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>>54550011
Fuck. We have no bard, and no paladin/cleric. My Warlock is an Abyssal tiefling with pact of the Fiend, but that's probably not gonna help. I guess im gonna complain to the DM about creating an encounter with CR far too high for the party.

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>>54550011
My character works on the side as a glorified delivery boy for a Tempter Demon, so I'd probably give ol' buddy Bal'De'Zar a call to figure out what this guy's deal is.

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>>54548291

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>>54549057

Conflict allows opportunity for men to prove themselves and better their world. Through proving their positive traits and remaining good people throughout hardship, they will be rewarded in this life or the next.

Plus, no conflict, no free will, yadda yadda we don't want slave worshipers.

>>54547868
>Are there gods in your setting?
Yes.
>Are they benevolent?
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
No. No they most certainly are not.

Because they're not omnipotent.

Some variation of FATE dice?

>>54547766
Fuck that die, post more pictures of your cat's paws.
They're cute.
You have a cute cat.

>>54547901

Seconded. Cat paws and I'll give you the answer.

>>54547044
No, they only exist to fall and have the space marines/imperial guard/sisters of battle/whatever called in to save the planet.

>>54547044
I don't think the PDF is the best group to deal with xenomorphs, nor do I think that Space Marines are particularly well equipped to deal with xenomorphs

Some sort of inquisition task force would likely be effective at wiping out the infestation, as xenomorphs tend to rely on stealth

Their natural ability to squeeze into tight spaces and hide effectively as well as their quickness (relative to baseline humans) would make them hard to combat on a large scale if only because they probably wouldn't take any sort of straight-on battle

>>54547220
The strength of xenomorphs is also pretty hard to determine easily. Someone seeing a xenomorph or two throughout the hive could mean that there really are just a couple, or there could be hundreds and there's really no way of telling until they invade en masse

Xenomorphs are also shown to be very intelligent and adaptable. That means if they come across a threat to their hive/continued existence they can determine a appropriate response quickly and apply it hive-wide due to their hive mind

Honestly I think they would be better at planetary infiltration than genestealers if only because they are able to mask the extent of their infestation so easily

>>54546698
For elves magic should be informed ability.

They are supposed to be great at it, but it shouldn't ever help them in any meaningful way, because elves suck.

>>54546698
It's rather odd. Most settings ostensibly say that Elves are the best race at arcane magic, having the best most long lived wizards and all that jazz. Of course, then you usually end up with the fact that heroic humans have to be the best at everything, so the greatest human wizard is a hyper-savant, while the greatest elf mage is a couple steps below him despite studying for 900 years.

It's probably a combination of HFY, and the fact that the BBEG is usually a Wizard, and it'd be weird if he wasn't the strongest wizard, since somebody would stop him otherwise?

I would say that in most settings, the average elf far outpaces the average human for magical potential, due in part to their lower population size and higher affinity for basic magic.

Personally for mine, I opted to just make Elves so good at magic that they just used to to get away from all those pesky worldly concerns and form a society elsewhere.

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>>54546698
fuck off out of here race traitor.

In D&D it was only OG to 2.5 where this was the case and it was because Elves were to busy being prancing mincing faggots to hit the books hard enough to reach the higher echelons of magic. It didn't matter they were still better than 98% of humans as only a very select few are supposed to reach that high level (the shit is not supposed to be like WoW with every tom, dick and harry at max level)

>>54546536
Try reasoning with them.

>>54546536
>Best way to counter Mages?
Hire another Mage to help you.

>>54546536
>Best way to counter Mages?
Banishers
>Timori Supremacy

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>>54545219
This update was huge. I changed a lot of stuff. So here it is!

6.08 to 6.09
Corrected issues with the colt Lighting and thunderer(They're DA guns, not SA guns)
Changed 44 Henry to 2d6+1, making it's recoil -2
Changed the 44-40 to 1d10+5, making it's recoil -5
Changed 6.8 SPC to 5d4+3 , making it's recoil -6 and moved it to intermediate rifle
Gave the Greatsword a 10 ft reach
Changed Integral stock to PDW/Handgun ONLY
Changed HE launched to concussive only
Increased cover bonuses.
Changed formatting to make firearms easier to read.
Made numerous modifcations to the concealiblity of firearms to provide a more diverse set of concealable spans that were current
Added Minishells to shotguns
Changed the shotgun Quote
Changed the notion of "integrated" to "permanent" to avoid confusion. permanent objects on firearms can't be removed.
Consolidated the Rifle and shotgun feats so that they are all one kind of feat and removed some of the "Tactical" reload notions that was being pointed at
Changed all notions of "Fixed barrel" to "Break Barrel"
Increased Sling steady feat to +2
Increased all Saving throw feats to +4
Combat Throw increased to +3
Changed magnum shells so it reduces 1 per 3
Removed the Ablity for a wax slug to take the benefits of a slug barrel
Added the Advanced Combat sight in the 3.1-6x range.
Added the Gripod, a vertical foregrip/bipod hybrid
Clarified Text for Contolled shot Feat
Clarified SNiper rifle, DMR and AMR expert feats saying that they only get the reduction when using a rifle with a magnified optic.
Doubled the ammount of primers you get per box
Corrected the painkiller issue so that you can't give it to people with CHP, but no XHP
Increased the ammount a spray bandage bottle heals to 1d3

>>54545246
This is the rest of the changelog for the core rulebook.

Increased Wrist wrap bonus to damage to +3
Added the Sig P320 Family, as they won the XM17 Contest
Added the Model 27 Registered Magnum
Added PM-63 RAK
Added PM-84 Glaubery
Added the Schmidt Rubin Model 1911 Rifle and carbine
Added Sig 510
Added CZ 528
Added Browning A bolt bolt action shotgun
Lost count of the guns. Removed the gun counter.
Changed "Hiring requirements" to "Job Change requirements" to make it more clear
Made the following Changes to attacks:

Burst Fire: Increased 2r to CRP-2 and 3r to CRP-4
Autofire: Increased to CRP-7
Double Tap: Increased to CRP-3
Slamfire: Increased 2r to CRP-4 and 3r to CRP-5
Bumpfire: Increased to CRP-8

Changed The following Ranged Weapon Upgrades:

Ported Barrel: Now negates Recoil by 1 instead of granting a +1 Bonus
Match Barrel: Added Machine pistols to the list of possibles to receive the upgrade.
Compensator: Now Negatates recoil by 2 instead of granting a +2 bonus
Muzzle Brake: Now Negates recoil by 3 instead of granting a +3 Bonus
Bipod: Grants a +3 attack bonus when used.
Detailing: Grants a +5 Bonus to all presence checks, and even huge weapons get the bonus now.(Gold plated Anti-material rifle FTW)

Fixed stock: Now Negates Recoil by 2 instead of granting a +1 attack to multishot attacks
Synthetic stock: Now increases Recoil by 2 instead of granting a +1 attack to multishot attacks
Buffer stock: Now Negates Recoil by 5 instead of granting a +3 attack to multishot attacks
Detatchable Stock: Now Negates Recoil by 2 instead of granting a +1 attack to multishot attacks
Speedfeed stock: Now Negates Recoil by 2 instead of granting a +1 attack to multishot attacks
Integral STock: Now Negates Recoil by 1 instead of granting a +1 attack to multishot attacks

Vertical Foregrip: Now Negates Recoil by 1 instead of Granting a +1 attack to multishot attacks
Magazine Foregrip: Now Negates Recoil by 1 instead of Granting a +1 attack to multishot attacks

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>>54545265
Next up is Advanced Arms, the Futuristic book.

Removed the AI from the Skiff(It was a mistake)
Fixed errors in Spaceships
Removed the requirement to point weapon mounts, they now function as the default, where you orient the weapons when they are installed
Changed Sublight engines so that they scale with size.
Changed Firearm formatting to the new style of formatting
Aded the notion that shields will be down for at least one round
Changed "Hiring requirements" to "Job Change requirements" to make it more clear
Changed Removed Tactical Plasma rifle reload and patched it into the current reloader feats
Removed all of the tactical plasma feats and instead tied them into Shotgun, Rifle, and handgun reloader feats in Core

>>54544658
A mad mage has turned your entire party into homosexuals. What's your next move?

Use OP to build a nest.

Shit on his mount

At least they aren't additional flavors of elves.

Personally, to my surprise, most of my favorite nonstandard races tend to come from either Mystara or 4th edition.

For example, I just find Devas - angels who gave up place amongst the gods to instead live amongst mortals, living an endless chain of lives because they gave up their immortality, but the primal spirits won't have them, to be so much more fascinating than the "super holy angel-blooded" Aasimar.

4th edition's take on Bladelings as abandoned creations of the God of War is a lot more fun to mess around with than 2e's "they're probably a stabilized strain of tiefling, or a minor fiendish race; who cares?"

Gnolls got some really awesome fluff in 4e's Dragon Magazine.

Aranea are really neat for being a magical, intelligent bug race who are neither hive-minded NOR inherently evil.

Diaboli are just a nifty idea; extraplanar refugees who look like fiends, but have the hearts of angels. You telling me you can't make something fun with that?

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>>54544164
I find gnolls to be underused. They also have more potential than enemy race. And if you check hyenas, they got a surprising amount of folklore all over Eurasia.

My favorite part is how some hyenas can crush bones with their jaws. I always put them having a bite attack with concussion damage, 1d6 or 1d8.

I don't know much about Kingdom Death Monster, but I have been dicking around with /tg/'s latest "let's make grimdark setting" thread, so color me interested. What's this setting about?

>>54543598

The setting larger than the game covers, because you start off the game essentially playing as cows.

An immortal being called the Scribe periodically writes humans into existence out in a plane of stone faces that exists in eternal darkness. These humans simple come into being as adults with no memories, with nothing but some cloth and a lantern to light their way in the darkness.

The cynical might say that the lanterns also advertise the location of these 'survivors' to nearby monsters. Of which there are many, ranging from degenerate lion-beasts that are all that remains of a once proud civilization, to screaming monster goats, to time-warping rainbow birds, to bugs cosplaying as knights, and so on.

These people usually die very quickly, but the lucky ones survive long enough to find areas of relative safety, band together, and work out something like civilization. Killing monsters and butchering them for resources and advancing, until their settlement inevitably falls into tragedy and death.

A lot of the monsters in the setting eat people, or were people once. So the scribe makes more of them as needed, and the Golden Entity occasionally sends forth its armies to harvest crops of humans.

Oh, the Golden Entity is the Scribe's boss. The Scribe isn't even a major player, really. That's how low on the ladder we are. Our all-powerful creator being is middle management in hell.

>>54543799
Hmm. In a setting like that, I'd want to make it clear that death can come easy, while at the same time not going completely out of my way to kill them. Character creation would go fast, you get your stats out, and since humans are just "made", we don't worry about backstory stuff other than some basic personality traits. Have it so there's downtime in the settlement to let characters form relationships and connections, so they want to survive and don't consider each person they player as cannon fodder. Have there actually be signs of hope and something to strive for, just make it very difficult to accomplish and have plenty of things get in the way to hamper spirits.

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>>54543119
>I want to know what makes a barbarian FEEL like a barbarian instead of some other martial class.
Not being a martial class, for one.

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>>54543162
>Not being a martial class, for one.
What?

Maybe having tactics that are made available literally by pure strength and speed. Like realistically being able to accurately and powerfully hurl a table at somebody, or being about to really on his ability to just straight catch arrows. Tremendous speed and strength, is my two cents.

>>54540700
>2. Restrictiveness.
Rather than make the character you want, you have to mix and match options to get the closest idea you were striving for. If you want to be a proficient brawler, you have to take a level in a certain class (monk). The character progression is pre-set — why did my back-street brawler suddenly become immune to all diseases (monk class ability)? And why can my witchdoctor take animal forms now (druid class ability)? You can pay an instructor to take riding lessons, but then you can't increase the Riding skill until you gain a level (which can take months in-game, or more, if you’re higher level). You cannot make up your own spells. Many character concepts are banned at starting levels (this is especially true with magic-users). And no, you cannot be a good singer because you chose the Fighter class.

>3. Mystery killing.
How many times have you seen, or thought yourself: “The guy touched my sword. The blade rusted and crumbled to pieces. This must be the Rusting Grasp spell (obvious, right?), which means that we’re dealing with at least 7th level druid. His Wisdom must be at least 14 to cast that spell, so, his Will save bonus is +7 or greater. He also has a good Fort save, so we better use some spell against him that requires Reflex, which is probably his worst. We gotta keep him away from the bushes too, as he’s got no movement penalties there and he can Entangle us if we follow. He also leaves no tracks behind. Druids also have animal companions, so we better be ready for surprise, and if he starts to lose, he’s got an ability to turn into eagle and fly away. Better watch out for that one, as we need information for him.”

>>54540708
Okay, I must state I don’t do this on purpose, but this kind of information just comes to me during the play. In essence, one tiny detail tells me VAST knowledge about the character we’re dealing with. No mystery at all — I know pretty well of what the character is capable of. And if GM modifies things that it isn’t as I think, this is to possibly cause scorned reaction from players: “Hey, why didn’t you tell you allowed such class? I would have really liked to play such a character,” etc.

>4. Logic holes/silliness.
Weapons have damage caps. Roll 1d4 point of damage for hit using a hand crossbow. WTF!? Any crossbow should be a dangerous weapon, and this four damage doesn’t even account for a scratch on most non-starting characters.

Okay, while never mentioned in the books, I can understand that Hit Points are meant to represent also stamina and dodging, not just taking wounds. However, this makes an arrow just as easy to avoid as a punch. Although using this representations is better than having barbarians running around with a dozen of arrows in their chest, it’s still silly. But hey, that’s what D&D is — silly. A friend of mine explained me once how he can make a character who dishes out 1d6+4 damage with a random twig picked up from the forest (don’t remember the mechanics, sorry, but it didn’t require exceptional Strength). It is also amusing that a single shuriken can CONSTANTLY make just as much damage as an average "longsword" (1 damage + 1 point blank shot + 2 weapon specialization = 4 automatic damage). Have fun combining it with the Flurry of Blows and you get a character whose biggest problem is that he cannot physically carry enough shurikens… They just run out before the combat ends.

>>54540723
Also, have you ever-ever seen any PC take cover in D&D against a single archer? Their defence trait vs. bullets/arrows is the same as in melée, so it would be stupid to take cover, as there’s no additional danger in charging ahead to hack the archer down. (Some firearms-based settings have upped the base damage of ranged weaponry to address this issue, but it’s not evident in D&D.)

This chapter also covers the impact of a the d20 roll has on a skill/ability checks. In case of the latter, your characters capabilities make up a miniscule part in the final result. Yes, this means that people with no training can outshine professionals time-to-time, and that arms wrestling contests between Strength 8 and 18 characters are mainly resolved with luck.

And as someone has very wisely said — though the skill ranks certainly help to succeed in tasks, they have more to do with qualifying for a prestige class.

There are more and more detailed issues on it, but they tend to fall into the four categories presented above.

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>>54540622
An interesting well-written character won't be an attention-whoring snowflake in the first place. If they are, chances are 100 to 1 that they're gonna be a shitty character, sorry.

>>54540758
define at what point "snowflakishness" starts for you, because all the complaints i see on /tg/ simply dont add up with my current group.
does it begin with "my character is race x just because"? because that never seemed to be a problem and, as i said, the matter of the character's race was fact yet was never forced into focus. or does /tg/ obsess over something like design efficiency?

>>54540622
If you aren't just being inflammatory, you should lurk more until you realize that just about everyone here doesn't actually play RPGs or interact with actual human beings consistently. All they know is memes and there's no arguments to be had with them.

>>54539399
Talk to your other players about the new guy and go from there

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>>54539399
> Player: "He is the kind of player that wants to kill everyone in the party. Ha"
> ask if he's That Guy
> am told "He's a fun guy". Also that he's killed his entire party before in a 2 year long campaign.
"A fun guy"

>>54539399
> ask if he's That Guy
> am told "He's a fun guy"
Well, that settles that.