>Primaris Marines are said to be even MORE specialized and niche than regular marines
>lack many of a base marines tactical options
>somehow you're supposed to be able to make whole chapters of them
Is it just me or does this not sounds like Guilliman at all? His whole THING was making his Legion and Space Marines as a whole tactically flexible to handle any situation. Marines Primaris just don't match his engagement mentality, and moreover, with them being so restrictive and unflexible how the fuck are we supposed to make whole chapters of them?
When you read between the lines, they sound more and more like Thunder Warriors
>>53489622
They seem to be following legions in their organization. Bolter tacticals, special weapons support squad, etc.
We'll see if chapter specific ones will be different.
>>53489622
They are more specialized and niche on a squad by squad basis. If you had a brain, you'd realize they have plenty of options already between the bolters quads, the plasma squads, and the jetpack squads.
Each squad is more specialized, but the army as a whole is plenty tactical since every squad specialization is so different.
This is not fucking hard use your damn brain.
>>53489622
>somehow you're supposed to be able to make whole chapters of them
Suppose Sauron had won.
What would the Middle-Earth have looked like in, I don't know, five thousand years?
>>53488901
Eru would intervene because it would be clear something had been wrong in the song.
>>53488939
How dare you judge an omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent, and omnibenevolent entity? The song is good because he says so.
Industrial hellhole. The worst nightmare of men being born in rural england.
Did you actually ever try it anon?
>>53488310
Why does his wings look like foreskin?
>>53488449
FATAL.
That's Why.
The Answer is always FATAL.
Here's a basic critique of what's wrong with FATAL:
1. FATAL is meant to allow you bust a nut in a fun way.
2. A game of FATAL takes too long to setup before your boner's dead.
3. Having a game of FATAL already setup for just such an occasion makes you a fucking creep that kills boners.
If FATAL had a singleplayer option it might work...but then you'd just be jerking off.
Have you ever seen two different games and wished that they were one greater game with the strengths of both components?
What two games would you fuse together if you could?
Yes.
I'm working on one, but I feel like I'm just diluting the strengths of both.
Feels bad.
Infinity and Malifaux
I like Malifaux but it doesn't handle vertical stuff well and card for rule resolution is slower pace due to paying attention to suits and numbers.
Infinity is just a clusterfuck of rules and having everything in plain text like Malifaux would be welcome.
D&D 3.5 and Pathfinder.
Useful Links (Let's update this list overtime!):
https://fate-srd.com/
Welcome to the now Reborn Fate Systems General.
This thread is dedicated to all people who want to discuss about this flexible and yet so powerful system.
If you are newfag, feel free to ask questions.
If you are a oldfag, feel free to discuss about your newest modification and/or setting.
Feel also free to share your campain stories as either a DM or Player.
This thread questions are:
>Did you ever felt the need to include another kind of dice/subsystem in your homebrew version of Fate?
>Did you ever feel the need to put other not standard stress types in your campain?
>>53484667
I haven't gotten to play Fate and I guess part of it because I really liked their previous game Pace and Pace seems far more elegant to me since it doesn't use dice like Fate does. But I really, really apreciate how they've made epub versions of Fate and FAE. And I like how they're made a pocket mod version of FAE.
>12 bucks for a set of snowflake dice to play a bell-curved game when GURPS exists
>playing SJW systems where the devs donate to SJW causes
>playing a game where no character can even die without the player consenting
>ladder is full of nonsensical descriptors like "good" "great" "poor" and "mediocre" so the DM can just bullshit whether they succeed
>game has literal rules for fighting defensively and called shots despite being "narrative"
>massive ass book full of rules bloat
>metacurrency
no thanks
>>53484803
>>12 bucks for a set of snowflake dice to play a bell-curved game when GURPS exists
At the start of the manual is it explained that you can just use a d6 to instead of a Fudge dice without any problem, I guess you have some d6 in your house anon?
>playing SJW systems where the devs donate to SJW causes
>using SJW as a buzzword
>playing a game where no character can even die without the player consenting
That's just not true, if you receive damage and you cannot soak it using stress and conseguences, the enemy can do whatever it wants with you, even killing you and you don't need anybody permission for that.
>ladder is full of nonsensical descriptors like "good" "great" "poor" and "mediocre" so the DM can just bullshit whether they succeed
The words are meaningless per se, they are only for the flavor, the NUMBERS associated to them thou, are the important part, the GM cannot really bullshit anything, the rules about decrees of fail and success are clear, if you fail a test the GM would either make you fail or succeed with a cost, if you succeed, you succeed, if you have several degrees of success your players will have beneficial effects like ANY other game.
>game has literal rules for fighting defensively and called shots despite being "narrative"
So you are criticizing a system that was designed to face every situation for having decent combat rules?
If you want to make it more narrative based you can just remove that thing, but I feel like it's useless, because the combat isn't in any way heavy anyways.
>massive ass book full of rules bloat
Fate Core is about 300 pages, I guess that's standard for a core book of any kind, just think of a book about a generic system, Fate Accellerated is 50, FIFTY Pages. Both games can be set up with only the first 20.
Also calling it a "massive ass book full of rules bloat" is quite laughable by a GURPS player, because GURPS is really know to be a light and not confusing system at all!
Continues.
Previous thread: >>53466171
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>News
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This week's Monday Meeting Notes:
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>Question:
Have you ever played up the Exalted connection?
>5th editons cliffnotes
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>>53484143
No, the very thought of connecting World of Darkness and Exalted disgusts me.
>>53484143
Exalted is so OP that not even Mage can really compete.
>>53484317
Seconding the not this again. We spent a couple threads arguing this to a standstill; either one could win depending on what sort of assumptions you make about how the settings mash.
Altered art edition
Previously: >>53466788
>Commander 2017 Spoilers
http://mythicspoiler.com/c17/index.html
>Latest Commander Ban Announcement
http://mtgcommander.net/Forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=18588
>Latest MTGO Banlist Update
http://wizardsmtgo.tumblr.com/post/160343614814/update-mtgo-commander
RESOURCES
>Official Site: Contains deck building rules and the current ban list.
http://www.mtgcommander.net
>Deck List Site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck’s strategy and card choices.
http://www.tappedout.net
>Another resource for commander discussion; they have an entire forum dedicated to discussing decks. People often make primers, which go into detail about how they built and play their deck.
http://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/the-game/commander-edh
>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the the internet.
http://www.edhrec.com/
>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen Commander’s color identity.
http://manabasecrafter.com/
>/tg/ EDH General Discord
https://discord.gg/UE9Vqzu
CARD SEARCHING
>Official search site. Current for all sets.
http://gatherer.wizards.com/
>Unofficial, but has GOAT search interface.
http://magiccards.info/
>Thread Question:
Do you have any altered cards in your decks?
>>53483266
Nope but i would like in my atraxa and my mikaeus.. any good artists You know?
thoughts on ultra pro satin tower? I need a deckbox
>Thread Question
I'm running alters of these guys but I can't find one for Ayli.
>>53483368
http://imgur.com/a/tLS5s
http://imgur.com/a/SZC4Q
Give a look through those galleries. I know Dirty Mike has one, but I think Atraxa might be too new.
> playing DnD on Roll20 with friends
> make a few mistakes over the course of the session
> one person has to keep going on about it - pointing out everything and act like a prick about it
> mfw
I swear to god if we'd been playing IRL you wouldn't of pulled any of this shit and you'd of acted like a proper human being. I don't know who you're trying to impress by being a cunt about me making a mistake about 3 points of HP.
Maybe you're just being overly sensitive.
>>53482633
>haven't played in over a month
>GMs (we run two games at once) kept getting busy with work
>or holidays come up
>Finally play last week
>not playing today because Memorial Day weekend
I understand people get busy and why the others usually don't want to play on holiday weekends. It's just a bit annoying because I like playing with them and we haven't been able to play for a while.
t b h, thinking of running an Only War game with whoever feels like playing. Just for those times when our normal GMs get called into work or they're enjoying the holidays.
>>53482633
>wouldn't of
>you'd of
You sound like a bitch, OP
Enough that guy threads.
lets have a dumb fuck thread.
>5e
>mission is to escort a man and his wares across contenent so he can sell them in an auction
>payment is either 10% of his sales or one of the remaining magic items
>going for the cut for sure fuck the items
>he starts listing items we may be able to get
>names a great magic shield that prevents anyone from aggressing against you or anyone in a line behind you if you take a stance as an action.
wow thats actaullly pretty powerful, how much is that?
>oh that's one of my more expensive items that will cost you 5000 PP
holy shit thats expensive
>start doing the math in my head
>if that item sells thats 5000 GP right there.
>still going though the list
>dart of the hive mind
>ranger friend
>oh what does that do
>the dart itself does 2d4 but on hit it does hail of thones
>oh yeah I'm gonna get that
holy shit wtf are you seriously, you'd give up all that money just to be able to do hail of thorns one more time in battle? you already have hail of thones.
>well you don't know how much 10% is going to be
>tell her that if she shield sales and nothing else that I have 5000GP.
>she starts shouting and telling me that I'm meta gaming
so doing math is meta gaming?
>your character is a fighter you can't do math that well
I have 10 int, of course I can do math.
>DM agrees with her and shouts at me saying my character shouldn't know that
>get treated spitefully the entire session
>haven't finished the journey yet but I know for sure I'm just going to get scammed while they get their magic items despite that not making any sense in the context of our campaign.
Kill them anon
>>53482577
ITT: Player fails to realize that the girl of the group was DM's girlfriend.Or worse, WASN'T the DM's girlfriend, but the magical realm in his pants was telling him otherwise.
I just wouldn't play with people who think a 10 int character can't divide 5000 by 10.
>short rests take 1 hour
Why did 5e do this? Doesn't it dick with the classes/archetypes that need short rests, like warlocks and Battle Master fighters?
How often are you really going to be in a situation where you can relax for an hour in the middle of an adventure, but you can't relax for the full 8 hours for a long rest?
>>53482105
Because 5e is a dumpster fire.
>>53482105
>How often are you really going to be in a situation where you can relax for an hour in the middle of an adventure, but you can't relax for the full 8 hours for a long rest?
Pretty often actually.
>>53482105
Because if short rests stayed at 5 minutes--how they were originally--anything linked to short rests would be all-but-explicitly and Encounter power, and the 3aboos 5e was supposed to draw back into the fold would have REEEEE'd and run back to Pathfinder.
Rolled 14 (1d26)
Lorgar's theme song edition
Mechanicum Ordo Serpentes subedition
1kSons discussed dusty armour, SoS watched Equilibrium before going to the armoury and transferring to Arrakis, Drop Pods have a high entry fee and respects were paid to based Bligh. Prospero underwent some historical revisionism and Unification fluff and armies were discussed. Deathstars were taken apart by an outdated physics concept, a truly torrential onslaught of memes began and Magos Coatl has apparently founded an entire order. All this and more in the last thread >>53468566
>Thread FAQ
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>Official HH 7th Edition Errata (not updated since January 2016)
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>30k TACTICA & TIPS
What to include in a HH list, how to format it, what makes each legion special (crunch), tactics, Tutorials for Heresy-era minis and more
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>HH Books, Novels and Rulebooks galore
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>/HHG/'s Legion demographics
http://www.strawpoll.me/10558764
>/HHG/'s allegiances
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>Primarch Popularity Poll
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>STUFF ANONS ASK FOR
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So what do you expect now that French will be taking over writing the Horus Heresy for FW?
>>53481596
>French
FUCK JOHN "DECIMATION" FRENCH
He's an irredeemable Dornfag.
Leave it to Chris Wraigh.
Alpharius did everything wrong.
Gob edition
Friend of mine is making a goblin gunslinger (female) and he wants me to find him a character pic with the right level of cuteness andthicc
Mind helping a guy out?
Will dump what few gobs I have too
don't you people know that fucking goblins gives you aids
>>53480610
>gobbo female
>he
>thick and cute
Fuck you and fuck him
>Playing?
>Brewing?
>Metagame thoughts?
>Discussion: What deck from another format do you wish was portable to modern?
>how do you feel about the diversity in the tournaments recently?
Decklists:
>https://www.mtggoldfish.com/metagame/modern#paper
>http://mtgtop8.com/format?f=MO
Primers:
>http://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/the-game/modern
Weekly Modern Metagame:
>https://www.mainphasemtg.net/modern-tier-list/2017/5/22/modern-tiered-list-weekly-update-and-analysis-for-52217
Save this thread for later. Real new thread
>>53475621
>>53475621
>>53479488
fuck off with your gay troll thread
UNBAN GSZ PLS
Medic in Only War
I have been searching for a nice source of magical symbols.
There are many different ones but I haven't found any that fit my needs.
Aside from the classic four triangles to represent the four elements, I cannot find any that are really universal.
Some are too complicated and hard to immediately recognize, like pic related...
>>53474254
Or too simplistic, stupid, or "clip art-y", like pic related.
Anybody have anything better?
Also, any cool or funny symbols welcome.
Runes, rune use, and that one anon's magical rune circle system would be cool too. I lost my copy of it and I always meant to incorporate it into my runecasters that I'm working on developing for my setting.
Actually, any cool runecaster art, stories, or anything would be cool too.