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>wife has had multiple shipments of HGH confirmed delivered to the Manning house hold
>Peyton has visited that same clinic on 2 different occasions
>have miracle muscle growth during that same time
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>>65083587
professional tip: they're all on gear

trust me on this, I'm a philosophy major
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>pro athlete
>not on HGH
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>>65083690
>>65083587
Pls show evidence. Any evidence will do
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>>65084832
HGH WAS DELIVERED TO HIS FUCKING HOUSE
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>>65084897
Your mother is a whore. My evidence is because I said so.
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>>65084936
Manning said himself his wife received hgh
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>>65085028
No he didn't. He said that whatever drugs she took were her business.
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>>65085078
so, there were some mystery drugs shipped to Manning's house and an employee of a clinic that was shipping them said it was HGH.

Isn't it enough to at least start an investigation? Where's Ted Wells when you need him?
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>peyton loses last football game
>found guilty of taking hgh
>career comes crumbling down
>suice
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>>65083690
Where's the evidence that Peyton took any any of it?
>b-b-but it was in his house
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>>65085226
More evidence than deflategate without a $50 billion investigation
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>>65085226
you usually need an investigation to come up with evidence. it doesn't just fall from the sky you know
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>>65085122
Shipping prescriptions is very common over here. Perhaps his wife is on antidepressants or painkillers to deal with birthing giant headed children?

Either way, one allegation that was promptly retracted without the threat of legal action really is a non story.

Assuming that she WAS sent HGH, it could legitimately have been for her, as there are a lot of medical conditions (including some related to childbirth) that can be treated with the use of HGH.

Besides, All Jizzeera certainly destroyed a lot of support for their case with the whole "second source" fiasco.
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>>65085247
>A Colts player brought a patriot'a game ball to a ref and the ref confirmed it was under inflated
>refs went on to find 11/12 of patriot game balls are under inflated
There's your evidence and should be enough to disqualify them from the owl. All you have is confirmation that there was hgh in his house
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>>65085330
>I don't understand basic science: the post
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>>65085342
>I don't have a comeback so I'll discredit the person who is arguing against me
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>>65085371
The psi dropped in accordance with the ideal gas law you mouth breathing retard.
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>>65085028
>throwing his own wife under the bus
I'd expect nothing less from a guy who put his balls on someone's face.
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>>65085330
>balls were slightly under the PSI limit
>this proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that the Patriots purposely underinflated them to gain a competitive advantage
Congratulations, you managed to fail at both, basic logic and basic science
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>>65085421
>b-b-b-but he does papa John's commercials
>he a good ol' boy like me
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>>65085382
>Brady dindu nuffin it was the weather
Then how were the Colt's balls at normal psi? Same environment and ball size
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>>65085485
Holy fuck you can't be this stupid. Colts balls dropped as much as .7 psi. They were sitting in the warm locker room while they measured the pats balls first. They only did 4 Colts balls because halftime was over. They were sitting there for like 15 minutes
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>>65085485
>being retarded
I'm not even memeing right now, I mean literally. Go get yourself checked
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>>65085421
>mfw this story
I really have no idea why this isn't more widespread knowledge
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>>65085515
>>65085530
>>65085551
> them stinkin nazi's under Goodell framed muh baby Brady cus he's evil
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I think my wife's son might go to the same clinic. I really don't know what treatment he gets there. I always ask when I go in to pay the bills but they won't let me look at his medical records because I'm not his dad.
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>>65085613
>>>http://www.helloquizzy.com/tests/the-mental-retardation-test
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>>65085613
Good comeback. Now go back to Reddit and enjoy your hugbox
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>>65085632
>I passed dis test n now my daddy don't beat me no more
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>>65085633
What's reddit and what's a hugbox?
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>>65085315
>birthing giant headed children

toppest of keks
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>>65085613
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/report--nfl-worried-about-footballs-deflating-in-chilly-minnesota-175201372.html

Do you even watch the game?
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>>65085315
What is the criteria for evidence then? All the patriots accusations are hearsay, and deflate gate has been proven false, and yet.

It seems that, for believabilty, the criteria has been met by accord
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>>65085315
>birthing giant headed children.

My sides, take her, please.
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>being literal cheating scum yet still only one ring

oi can his life be anymore of joke?
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>mfw Brady>Manning and the Pats owning Manning at both Indy and Denver isn't enough
>mfw Patsfags STILL salty as fuck and salivating to pin speculative allegations on anyone else but them
All you faggots had to do was just shut the fuck up and watch your team keep winning, and they did, but no, you STILL have to be little bitches about this shit, all these months later. Dangerously close to Yankee-fanbase levels of douchebaggery here.
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>it's an AL Jazeera: America story

Suicide bomb yourself op
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>>65086138
>it's a "Manning won't even deny his wife had hgh shipped to the house" episode
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>>65086156
>no proof manning actually used the drug

patriots fans are not only ignorant but possibly mentally retarded
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>>65087594
>mfw no proof brady ordered his assistants to illegally deflate balls
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>>65087648
> Brady hides his text

> people in charge of the balls caught with text talking about deflating them
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>>65087648
Regardless the balls were deflated even if brady DID have nothing to do with it.

it's still a mark against the organization
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>there's a confirmed video tape of a Patriots attendant taking the footballs into the bathroom with him for 30 minutes
>Kraft accepted the loss of draft picks and the fine
>one of the attendants was caught mentioning Brady's football preferences, and calling himself the deflator
The only thing against Brady that's fishy is destroying his phone, but it's no smoking gun. I don't believe Brady cheated knowingly.

Someone in that organization, however, willingly cheated and/or made the decision to tamper with the footballs. I'm not sure if it was Belichick (probable), Kraft (highly unlikely), or the attendant just decided to be a 'hero' (probable), but someone in that organization, without a doubt, tampered with the footballs. It's just too coincidental.

Same with what OP is saying, BUT the fact so many athletes have joined together in a lawsuit against Al Derkajihad or whatever they're called, and the fact they subsequently closed their doors shortly after the story, implies they published a story they knew was wrong and shamefully bowed out with their tail between their legs.
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>>65089430
>>65087786
Can we at least agree that balls deflate naturally in cold weather?
>Yes

Can we agree that given a starting PSI of 12.5, and weather conditions on the field, the balls should have deflated naturally by 1.0 - 1.3 PSI by halftime?
>Yes

Can we agree that when the balls were measured at halftime, the balls were documented to be about 11.3 PSI?
>Yes

Doesn't this fit into the expected pressure drop predicted beforehand?
>N-n-no, he cheated!

The mental gymnastics are astounding
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>>65089444
Yeah, we can agree the weather would affect the footballs, but you SERIOUSLY don't think it's odd that the same attendant that took the footballs into the bathroom ALSO talked about deflation with another attendant? REALLY?
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>>65089430
Even if you don't believe Al Jazeera's story, it's an established fact that Manning's wife received shipments of HGH in 2011 as he was recovering from neck surgery. You don't have to believe he took it, but that's a pretty naive way of thinking.
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>>65089470
when he sent some "deflator" text in the off season? are you fucking retarded?
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>>65089470
you SERIOUSLY don't think there could be any other explanation besides the "cheating" we have no evidence of?
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>>65089470
He didn't talk about deflating footballs. None of their thousands of communications make any reference to deflating balls below the legal limit or after referee inspection.

Also if he WAS deflating them in the bathroom, wouldn't they be below the natural pressure drop? Why were they exactly in the predicted range based on weather factors alone?
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>>65089499
>>65089498
>>65089487
I've got something to sell you anons.
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>thread turns into talk about the patriots cheating

i rest my case
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>>65089498
Kraft ACCEPTED THE PENALTIES AND FIRED THE TWO ASSISTANTS

GUILTY
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>>65089523
Why are you incapable of answering a simple question?

If the balls were intentionally deflated, why weren't the below the natural PSI drop?

It's amazing how people ignore basic math just because it doesn't conform to their beliefs.
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>>65089532
Actually the two assistants are still working with the team.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/nfl-reinstates-patriots--john-jastremski--jim-mcnally-125904939.html
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>>65089540
Why weren't the Colts' footballs deflated? Only 1 of their's turned out to be under the limit.
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>>65089532

I figured there was some kind of deal between him and Goodell, which the commish then went back on.
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>>65089553
My point still stands
Kraft accepted the penalties
He knew his team cheated
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>>65089555
3 of the 4 Colts balls tested were below the legal limit.

Also they were tested at the end of halftime when they had been inside for 15 minutes, allowing them to warm up and regain pressure.
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>>65089555

perhaps the colts inflated them above the lower limit
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>>65089564
>>65089555
holy fuck you're both absolute retards that don't even know anything about what actually happened
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>>65089564
Except you're forgetting in order to remove the penalties he would have to sue the NFL and piss off the 31 other owners. Brady had the NFLPA to fight his case for him, Kraft would have to attack his co-workers while also weakening Goodell's (and the owners) power.

It's not a black and white issue for Kraft.
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>>65089580
>a single leaf
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>>65089612
yet more than a single brain cell
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It seems like HGH would be something that would be really beneficial recovering from neck surgery and that is the only time period they nailed him getting gear.

People take steroids and hormones all the time when recovering from illness.
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>>65089632
You know all about being single
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cheater
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>>65089638
Doesn't make it legal
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One thing really makes me wonder. When he said that his wife had some prescriptions mailed to their house and that it's a private matter, why didn't he say something like "My wife had drugs shipped to our house, it's her business what drugs they were but it was not HGH."? If it really wasn't HGH he could've easily denied it altogether without endangering her privacy
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>brady """""""""""""""""""cheats""""""""""""""""""""""""" gets nationwide attention
>chicken parm ordering hgh in his wifes name to get delivered to his house
>swept under the rug
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>>65094612
It shows your how bad the national media is

I mean ESPN is dieing because of how poorly they handle stories
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cheaaating you taste so good
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>>65085226
>Where's the evidence that Peyton took any any of it?

Come on. I'm a Peyton fan, too, but be serious, ffs.
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>>65085421
why aren't Peyton's sexual assaults ever mentioned, btw?
if he were black...[/jada]
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>allegations made by literally reddit: the newscorp
>ISIS News Network shuts down reddit: the newscorp because they suck
>people still believe it
are patriots fans actually scared?
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>>65097076
brady hasn't lost in the playoffs in a full 2 years
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>>65097096
that's what im saying. even if peyton is better than brady, debatable but could be true, kubiak is literally retarded compared to belichick. there is no way the patriots lose
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well damn the HGH sure did help
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>>65085315
>Assuming that she WAS sent HGH, it could legitimately have been for her, as there are a lot of medical conditions (including some related to childbirth) that can be treated with the use of HGH.

No, the only way she'd be prescribed this is if she had a pre-existing condition that would have been known BEFORE pregnancy. And she wouldn't get her prescription from a shady anti-aging clinic. You have no idea what you're talking about.

If she was the one using it, she was using it illegally. Same for Peyton
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>deflator text in may
>we know the balls in October jets game were way above normal levels

Yeah they totally been deflating balls this whole time.
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>>65089564
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwxXsEltyas
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EVEN if he DID cheat

not like he did it to get an unfair advantage rofl. nigga took it so he could fucking function.

also where the drug test at? jk this doesn't matter to pats and chiefs fans
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>>65104684
In his injured state, he did not need hgh to heal or "function". Hgh is a natural hormone made by the pituitary gland, which makes it difficult to catch in a drug test. Not to say the nfl is good at catching doping athletes anyway
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>>65104769
> human GROWTH hormone

> not useful to function as an NFL quarterback
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>>65085421
Don't take our anger out on Peyton just because you're a Virgin who's never had your balls on a girls face
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>>65085226
Just look at his decline in play. Neither Favre or Brady has had that much a decline.
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>>65104963
Somebody doesn't remember Favre's final season. It was a shitshow
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>>65103491
good point that doesn't come up a lot.

also, these guys only work home games. that's only 8 games a year. what about the other 8?
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>>65104986
He was also injured as fuck.
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>>65083716
underrated post
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>>65083587
Even if he WAS using HGH, who gives a gosh darned crap? I'd love to see old man Peyton slingin' 60 yard bombs to Sanders and company if it means a more exciting playoff game vs the Pats.
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>>65105375
>gosh darned crap
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what does hgh taste like?
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>>65105422
Yes, I recognized the irony of my diction (on a board such as this) as I was typing in those words. That's why I did it.
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>>65105483
it's literally just cum
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>>65085226
>the balls were under pressure by 1lb

TOM BRADY TOLD THE BALL BOYS TO UNDER INFLATE THE BALLS
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>>65105375
It's illegal by FDA standards, and the NFL banned use of the hormone

>>65104931
>human GROWTH hormone
Congrats, you know what hGH stands for. I'll give you a medal if you can tell me what AIDS stands for.

> not useful to function as an NFL quarterback
Oh quit being pedantic, you know I meant he did not need to INJECT extra hGH to add what his body already was making.
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>>65083626
>>65083716
ding ding ding
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>>65105728
I dun even care. Still would make the game more exciting.
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>>65083587
chicken good you taste so parm
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>>65106168
chicken taste you parm so good
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>>65106187
hg-good you taste so h
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>>65106239
hg-taste you h so good
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>>65085613
>my hypocrisy is amazing
>my jealousy of Tom Brady is being demonstrated
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ITT: butt blasted pat fans.
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>>65111113
look at ESPN
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fuck ESPN and its shitty agendas
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anally annihilated pats fans
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Lol you want me to care so badly
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>>65085576
thanks asshole, i rewatched the episode because of this gif.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKY6BGcx37k
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>>65104769

>HGH levels spike in childhood and puberty
>Just because it's normally produced it's untracable
>A 40 year old man having teenage levels HGH won't get detected

durr
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CHOKE
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>>65124724
I don't recall saying it was not traceable, just that it was difficult to catch.

The fact that any lab-made hGH isoform is gonna look like natural hGH means it will be mostly reabsorbed in the kidneys and put back into the bloodstream, making it difficult to catch in a urine test. Only blood tests can catch it, which are performed less often than urine tests.

And if the athlete knows there's a chance of a blood test, he could easily just stop taking it in advance so it comes back negative.
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