>wife has had multiple shipments of HGH confirmed delivered to the Manning house hold
>Peyton has visited that same clinic on 2 different occasions
>have miracle muscle growth during that same time
so, there were some mystery drugs shipped to Manning's house and an employee of a clinic that was shipping them said it was HGH.
Isn't it enough to at least start an investigation? Where's Ted Wells when you need him?
Shipping prescriptions is very common over here. Perhaps his wife is on antidepressants or painkillers to deal with birthing giant headed children?
Either way, one allegation that was promptly retracted without the threat of legal action really is a non story.
Assuming that she WAS sent HGH, it could legitimately have been for her, as there are a lot of medical conditions (including some related to childbirth) that can be treated with the use of HGH.
Besides, All Jizzeera certainly destroyed a lot of support for their case with the whole "second source" fiasco.
>A Colts player brought a patriot'a game ball to a ref and the ref confirmed it was under inflated
>refs went on to find 11/12 of patriot game balls are under inflated
There's your evidence and should be enough to disqualify them from the owl. All you have is confirmation that there was hgh in his house
>balls were slightly under the PSI limit
>this proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that the Patriots purposely underinflated them to gain a competitive advantage
Congratulations, you managed to fail at both, basic logic and basic science
Holy fuck you can't be this stupid. Colts balls dropped as much as .7 psi. They were sitting in the warm locker room while they measured the pats balls first. They only did 4 Colts balls because halftime was over. They were sitting there for like 15 minutes
>mfw this story
I really have no idea why this isn't more widespread knowledge
I think my wife's son might go to the same clinic. I really don't know what treatment he gets there. I always ask when I go in to pay the bills but they won't let me look at his medical records because I'm not his dad.
What is the criteria for evidence then? All the patriots accusations are hearsay, and deflate gate has been proven false, and yet.
It seems that, for believabilty, the criteria has been met by accord
>birthing giant headed children.
My sides, take her, please.
>being literal cheating scum yet still only one ring
oi can his life be anymore of joke?
>mfw Brady>Manning and the Pats owning Manning at both Indy and Denver isn't enough
>mfw Patsfags STILL salty as fuck and salivating to pin speculative allegations on anyone else but them
All you faggots had to do was just shut the fuck up and watch your team keep winning, and they did, but no, you STILL have to be little bitches about this shit, all these months later. Dangerously close to Yankee-fanbase levels of douchebaggery here.
>mfw no proof brady ordered his assistants to illegally deflate balls
>there's a confirmed video tape of a Patriots attendant taking the footballs into the bathroom with him for 30 minutes
>Kraft accepted the loss of draft picks and the fine
>one of the attendants was caught mentioning Brady's football preferences, and calling himself the deflator
The only thing against Brady that's fishy is destroying his phone, but it's no smoking gun. I don't believe Brady cheated knowingly.
Someone in that organization, however, willingly cheated and/or made the decision to tamper with the footballs. I'm not sure if it was Belichick (probable), Kraft (highly unlikely), or the attendant just decided to be a 'hero' (probable), but someone in that organization, without a doubt, tampered with the footballs. It's just too coincidental.
Same with what OP is saying, BUT the fact so many athletes have joined together in a lawsuit against Al Derkajihad or whatever they're called, and the fact they subsequently closed their doors shortly after the story, implies they published a story they knew was wrong and shamefully bowed out with their tail between their legs.
Can we at least agree that balls deflate naturally in cold weather?
Can we agree that given a starting PSI of 12.5, and weather conditions on the field, the balls should have deflated naturally by 1.0 - 1.3 PSI by halftime?
Can we agree that when the balls were measured at halftime, the balls were documented to be about 11.3 PSI?
Doesn't this fit into the expected pressure drop predicted beforehand?
>N-n-no, he cheated!
The mental gymnastics are astounding
Yeah, we can agree the weather would affect the footballs, but you SERIOUSLY don't think it's odd that the same attendant that took the footballs into the bathroom ALSO talked about deflation with another attendant? REALLY?
Even if you don't believe Al Jazeera's story, it's an established fact that Manning's wife received shipments of HGH in 2011 as he was recovering from neck surgery. You don't have to believe he took it, but that's a pretty naive way of thinking.
He didn't talk about deflating footballs. None of their thousands of communications make any reference to deflating balls below the legal limit or after referee inspection.
Also if he WAS deflating them in the bathroom, wouldn't they be below the natural pressure drop? Why were they exactly in the predicted range based on weather factors alone?
I've got something to sell you anons.
Why are you incapable of answering a simple question?
If the balls were intentionally deflated, why weren't the below the natural PSI drop?
It's amazing how people ignore basic math just because it doesn't conform to their beliefs.
Actually the two assistants are still working with the team.
3 of the 4 Colts balls tested were below the legal limit.
Also they were tested at the end of halftime when they had been inside for 15 minutes, allowing them to warm up and regain pressure.
Except you're forgetting in order to remove the penalties he would have to sue the NFL and piss off the 31 other owners. Brady had the NFLPA to fight his case for him, Kraft would have to attack his co-workers while also weakening Goodell's (and the owners) power.
It's not a black and white issue for Kraft.
It seems like HGH would be something that would be really beneficial recovering from neck surgery and that is the only time period they nailed him getting gear.
People take steroids and hormones all the time when recovering from illness.
One thing really makes me wonder. When he said that his wife had some prescriptions mailed to their house and that it's a private matter, why didn't he say something like "My wife had drugs shipped to our house, it's her business what drugs they were but it was not HGH."? If it really wasn't HGH he could've easily denied it altogether without endangering her privacy
>allegations made by literally reddit: the newscorp
>ISIS News Network shuts down reddit: the newscorp because they suck
>people still believe it
are patriots fans actually scared?
>Assuming that she WAS sent HGH, it could legitimately have been for her, as there are a lot of medical conditions (including some related to childbirth) that can be treated with the use of HGH.
No, the only way she'd be prescribed this is if she had a pre-existing condition that would have been known BEFORE pregnancy. And she wouldn't get her prescription from a shady anti-aging clinic. You have no idea what you're talking about.
If she was the one using it, she was using it illegally. Same for Peyton
EVEN if he DID cheat
not like he did it to get an unfair advantage rofl. nigga took it so he could fucking function.
also where the drug test at? jk this doesn't matter to pats and chiefs fans
In his injured state, he did not need hgh to heal or "function". Hgh is a natural hormone made by the pituitary gland, which makes it difficult to catch in a drug test. Not to say the nfl is good at catching doping athletes anyway
Even if he WAS using HGH, who gives a gosh darned crap? I'd love to see old man Peyton slingin' 60 yard bombs to Sanders and company if it means a more exciting playoff game vs the Pats.
Yes, I recognized the irony of my diction (on a board such as this) as I was typing in those words. That's why I did it.
It's illegal by FDA standards, and the NFL banned use of the hormone
>human GROWTH hormone
Congrats, you know what hGH stands for. I'll give you a medal if you can tell me what AIDS stands for.
> not useful to function as an NFL quarterback
Oh quit being pedantic, you know I meant he did not need to INJECT extra hGH to add what his body already was making.
I don't recall saying it was not traceable, just that it was difficult to catch.
The fact that any lab-made hGH isoform is gonna look like natural hGH means it will be mostly reabsorbed in the kidneys and put back into the bloodstream, making it difficult to catch in a urine test. Only blood tests can catch it, which are performed less often than urine tests.
And if the athlete knows there's a chance of a blood test, he could easily just stop taking it in advance so it comes back negative.