Seriously, how do we fix it bros? I feel that a massive implosion is on the horizon and it'll be worse than the 2011 Colts. I know there's something really off with the current state of the team. An important piece is missing.
This team is a secondary away from serious Owl contention. I've got them winning the AFCN and going to the AFCCG next year (subject to change after free agency/draft of course).
If their offense stays healthy they could average something crazy like 33 points. They're literally elite at every position there except for TE (and Heath Miller is no scrub either). The run defense is already top 10 and the pass rush is getting sacks. bottom 5 pass defense and injuries are the only things that are holding this team back
Fix what? They were injured more than any other team that made the playoffs and made it to the divisional round. They'll be a powerhouse next year with all the main pieces staying in place. If you want to win some money, put it on the Steelers this offseason.
Also, I know it's just crying over spilled milk, but Peypey should have been ruled down on that feet first slide (which resulted in a 34 yard pass to Sanders). I honestly don't blame the refs, because the NFL is making it so fucking confusing for them these days with when to protect the QB and when to just let them play. Consider this though: if a Steelers player would have dove on Peyton while he was still on the ground, downing him in the process, you bet your ass they would have gotten a 15 yard penalty for tackling a player who already sacrificed himself down. Eh.
>fix the O-line
You mean the O-line that was still top 10 statistically despite losing All-Pro Pouncey and solid LT Beachum? They'll be fine. Villanueva's breakout performance makes Beachum expendable, which means they'll probably give Decastro a longterm contract. Literally the only questions moving into next season are free safety (Will Allen is getting too old) and corner, though even that was looking better once the team finally started playing Boykin.
You have one more year until Le'veon is out of there, no chance in hell would your management have that much cap space invested into 3 guys. Next year is pretty much all the window you have left until Lev leaves, Ben retires and Antonio has to make due with a shit QB.
He just signed an extension through 2019.
Possibility, but Steelers find ways to keep these type of players, usually through vets restricting their contracts.
Steelers don't have windows of opportunity. We don't have losing seasons. The division is ours now that all the other 3 teams are shit. As long as we enter the playoffs with half our starters, we'll always be a threat.
>The division is ours now that all the other 3 teams are shit.
Do Steeler fans actual believe this? I mean I know you beat the Bengals in the playoffs and everything but you cannot seriously think that the division is literally yours. I don't like the Bengals but even with their major free agency coming up, there's no chance that they can't win the division.
I wouldn't be so lax about your division m8. I mean the Browns are punching bags but Harbaugh is a good coach. The Bungles have proven to be good in the regular season but that shouldn't matter as long as you guys can keep getting wildcard berths. Firing Lewis could change their choking ways, but he's an excellent scout/recruiter and the owner himself has shown apathy to the current situation so who really knows what Lewis' future is with the team.
>The division is ours now that all the other 3 teams are shit
Hence why I said that there's no chance that they can't win it. Iloka, Marvin Jones, Pacman, and maybe even Reggie will get resigned. Even if they can't get back Reggie then they'll be fine with Shawn Williams.
They would've had AB and D'Angelo back. They wouldn't have been favored, but don't act like it would be impossible
DO you seriously like Tomlin? He's a horrible coach, most steeler fans I know can't stand him either. Me personally I'm glad they are sticking with him, same with the Bengals sticking with Marvin Lewis.
anyone that thinks they should fire Tomlin is retarded
I've been hearing this way too much lately, and I'm guessing it's cause we haven't made an owl appearance since.. 09/10?
He didn't have a great team after Cowher left, and he was able to keep them competitive and an owl, and after that keep the team challenging for a playoff spot almost every year
Fuck people that say Tomlin should be fired
The Steelers logo and uniforms are fucking ugly. Fuck this boring franchise desu senpai
I'm thinking Ben has maybe one good year left. Their defense has improved somewhat towards the end of this year so next year they should have a good team if they can avoid injuries.
I've visited there a few times and I enjoyed it, would definitely prefer it to NYC where I lived for a few years.
fire Tomlin, hes a scrub who blows games and only had success with leftover talent from Cower.
How many times do you have to watch Harbaugh out coach him with an inferior team for it to sink in? You'll always be "missing something" if your coach is a hack.
The refs have been abnormally fair over the course of the playoffs this year. The only iffy call was on Pacman Jones and the game was already over since the Steelers were within field goal range at that point.
Aside from getting a good CB or two, keeping a healthy team for once would be the a guaranteed owl. Every season for the past couple of years the steelers have been crippled. The talent is there, its just in the ER.
Bengals are the better team and they've proven it for years now.
Steelers just come through in the clutch.
AFCN is a 2 horse race. Unfortunately Ben is old and breaking down. The Steelers window is closing fast.
No, Mike Tomlin only had to start Landry Jones and a 50 year old Michael Vick for just as many games. Ravens were devastated with injuries this year, but Steelers were just behind them.
What is wrong with the team? The only hole is the secondary and its a relatively deep draft for corners. The whole offense is in good shape, with everyone at full health, and the front 7 played very well on defense. Also Boswell kicked like 90% as a replacement this year. I see no problems.
Not to mention the rest of the offense is extremely young, apart from Miller (Jesse James looking like a good replacement). The only old starters on defense are Will Allen and James Harrison. I'm not autistic enough to do the math, but I'd bet the Steelers have one of the top 5 youngest teams in the league going into next season.
The only thing fucking up their next few years is the Cortez Allen contract.
Cortez allen will be cut, saving them about 4 million bucks. Also wouldn't be surprised if heath was cut, although that would be a very unpopular decision, with Ben more than anyone.
I read they only save $1.7M if he's cut, and that's not counting money that would go towards his replacement. After that they still only save something like $2.5M each year until his contract runs out.
I can definitely see the Steelers restructuring Heath's contract this offseason, giving him another year and cutting down his base salary for next season to help the team. I don't see them outright cutting him this year.
Problem with the Steelers is that Bell is made out of glass and Ben is a drama queen. Injuries pretty much decide who wins the Owl and the Steelers will always have this problem due to their personnel.
(neutral Philly fan)
Have you seen the hits that injured Bell both times? No RB would have functioning knees after those. It's not a coincidence it was the Bengals both times, the Bengals who concussed Brown, and the Bengals who almost kept out Ben from the 2nd round.
Harbaugh is a top 3 coach in the NFL, it's a tribute to him that he won 5 games this year with the amount of injuries they suffered this year.
forgetting about the Ravens?
Steeler injuries don't compare to what the Ravens suffered. Vick and Landry were at least highly sought after prospects. Ravens were playing turds like washed up Schaub, Clausen and Mallet
I remember a hit Bell took 2 years ago on the goal line where he got BTFO and concussed. It was a primetime game... forget who they were playing.
He's a great talent but he doesn't have the awareness to protect himself. Some guys just don't have that 6th sense. He won't last long in this league. Both hits vs the bungles were totally normal. He will be done in <2 more years
Vick was signed a week before the season started. Steelers were the only team desperate enough to give him a call after Gradkowski became ded, and with Landry Jones the only other QB. And we saw why.
Jones is so bad that Vick jumped ahead of him without doing anything other than being Tomlin's nigga. I'm sure you saw his awesome performance when he had to come in for Ben in the playoff game against the Bengals.
I'd say the injury comparisons are not that far off.
That was against the Ravens. Game winning TD IIRC, and he was fine afterwards. Neither hit he took against the Bengals was normal. Last season he was airborn when the Bengals player took out his knee. Ben's fault mostly for leaving it up there. This year it was Burfict rolling over his leg after he was already down and out of bounds. You may be neutral, but I'm seeing a bias here.
>but I'm seeing a bias here.
he was literally tackled to the ground in the Burfict hit. that was a routine tackle and he still got hurt. that's my point. great talent. injury prone.
I don't buy it. Both injuries were pretty flukey, and I have no problem admitting a guy like Lamarr Woodley was injury prone, or even Maurkice Pouncey. You actually believe he's out of the league in less than 2 years because of those two cases. lol