Why is American Football more entertaining than soccer?
I mean, for euros that shit on American Football for only having "11" minutes of actual game time action and a bunch of commercials, that Green Bay/Arizona was probably one of the most entertaining sporting matches i've ever seen.
Is something like the Hail Mary, or the fucked up coin toss / dumb penalties equal the same as having a boring 0-0 draw the whole game, just for someone to score in the 90th minute? Who knows. But it seems to me that even for a game that has 11 minutes of actual game time seems really fucking entertaining for some reason.
What do you think?
I personally don't give shit for the fact that there's only 11 minutes of action.
It might well be that these 11 minutes are very entertaining. But it's the setup of these 11 minutes that doesn't make it worth watching.
If it were 11 straight minutes of action, that would be awesome, but why sit through 60 commercials, shots of players loafing around and endless replays?
>It's another "america vs. the rest of the world" episode
The time in between plays is important though if you have an understanding of the game. I really don't see the difference between time between plays and dead possession in futball. What's the difference if no one is scoring in either instance? The ads are there for you to have a break to drink Bud Light the official beer of the NFL, talk about the game, and shitpost.
My favorite aspect of football is how difficult it is for one player to carry others at the end of the day though.
>11 minutes of action between 60 minutes of ads
>85 minutes of jogging around grass and flopping and 5 minutes of actual scoring and replaying wide shots and penalties
Really no point in watching any of these sports.
i guess it depends on what your definition of "action" is, Because watching teams pass it around the back, dive, and send unsuccessful lob passes right to a defender/gk is not action, and that accounts for around 95% of the average soccer match.
Its the truth. I feel bad for people who dont understand football. It's like their dad didn't love them. They are missing out on the greatest strategic game ever created.
4th quarter. 3rd and 8. your down 10. ball on your own 46. What do you do?
>I feel bad for people who dont understand football. It's like their dad didn't love them
speak for others, i taught myself everything including strategy
the complex shit i owe to my HS coach but still
but i bet it's better than people from places other than north america trying to give their shit opinion about something they don't know shit about
imagine saudi arabia trying to talk bobsledding with you, how would you feel?
>Soccer is gay. I'm talking about real sports
I'm just being honest with you and this is the real american feeling. Soccer is for dorky kids who suck at other sports. Football is king.
>My son just got a soccer scholarship
Congrats really cool
>My son just got a football scholarship
WHERE'S HE GOING MAN FUCKING AWESOME
a 6'5 320 pounder shoving you around and creating a running lane for his 200 pound running back. you don't understand the game or you would appreciate it a lot more bro. i'm sorry you feel this way.
I don't know how you can think that tbqh. It's fast, high contact, high scoring and incredibly athletic. I'm not a huge fan of the sport, but it's objectively got all the ingredients of a sport to entertain the masses
>you don't understand the game or you would appreciate it a lot more bro. i'm sorry you feel this way.
Same could be said about you amerifats and actual football.
I just like watching one team black another team. In fact, if you lose your punishment should be watching your opponents fuck your wives, with the smallest girl taking the biggest dick balls deep until he cums or she dies.
Well that's dissapointing, since it's the most tactical sport of all time, and if you don't understand the intricacies and deep tactical knowledge behind a group of black men spraying cum over the face of a man who has just had his anus reupholstered then I guess your daddy never loved you.
Because I like Rugby. AFL has too much kicking and they score so often it isn't exciting, just like basketball. They don't tackle like Rugby and they constantly blow that fucking whistle.
Not to mention they look like a bunch of queers with no sleeves.
Coming from someone who watches american football and soccer. NFL games typically have me interested throughout, just because there are only 16 games so each one has a bigger impact compared to all of the regular season soccer games. Though, watching the games for the United States in any world cup has me on the edge of my seat as much as any Panther game. They're both fun.
christ, australia coming through with the bants
In all honesty though, the strategy part is what makes the game interesting. You attempt to guess what play is coming, and see if you were right or not. Also, catches are fucking awesome, so are some runs, athletic ability in general. Ive been watching the pats long enough now that I can basically predict about 50 percent of the plays correctly, but belichick is one sneaky bastard. What I dont think you take into account is just how much preparation goes into the design and execution of plays on the defensive and offensive sides of the ball. hell, teams have a whole set of practice teamers who run plays against the real defense that coaches think the next opponent might run. Even plays that they haven't even seen yet on tape. The last super bowl was one because of one of these scout guys who predicted what the seahawks might run on the goal line, taught it to the defender(malcolm butler) who then intercepted the ball on the goal line because of what he had been taught about a play that the opponent had never run during the entirety of the season. There are hundreds of plays like this on each team, and 5 or so different varations of each play(different lineups, mirrors, etc.) This, along with the sheer athletic ability of the players is what makes football interesting.
theyre definitely opposites ... soccer is easily the most popular sport for girls and women to play in america. the best player in the world is literally the size of your average woman. it rewards feigning injuries, non-aggressiveness, draw games, whining, rewarding of non-achievements(people literally rate and admire 'skills' plays, basically in game tricks that lead to absolutely nothing). it's really the lowest of the low as far as athletic talent goes, these chaps could literally do nothing else in the world of sport other than maybe pro darts.
not true, soccer takes technique out the wazoo, and massive amounts of stamina, not to mention team tactics. I respect the sport, and it is a beautiful game, but it doesn't take the same amount of strategy that Football does. I an american and I grew up watching the Pats with my dad as he explained the game to me, so that is the sport I love and feel most attached to.
Oh ya, and getting a ball into a net requires years of training and learning. That's why every parent here puts their kid on a soccer team, so they can get into it while they are young and learn how fucking boring it is
All the excitement of soccer, all the strategy of football.
I'd honestly think American Football would be very entertaining if it wasn't more commercial break than actual gameplay.
I can handle some commercials too, like in hockey but this is just ridiculous.
>All of just trading scores and nothing important happening until the last two minutes
Want to know how I know you've never watched basketball? Literally everyone who hasn't watched basketball makes this same argument and it's straight-up wrong.
>53 players per team
>only 750 starting jobs
>1000 secondary/bench roles
>surprised that the average length of career is so short
I'd like to see this statistic with only players who had a starting role for 16 games in a season, hell make it 10, I assure you it will more than double the career length. it's also dependent on the position. a good QB, or even a mediocre one, can have a 10+ year career; Peyton and Brady are examples of players with 20 year careers. Kickers and punters can have 20+ year careers too. other skill positions (WR, RB, CB) don't last much past the age of 30 due to decline in speed/agility.
but how many 35 year old soccer players are there? I doubt very many, mostly just the all stars
Know your audience lad. After all, they're the only nation in the world dumb enough to find gridiron """""""""tactical""""""""". You've got to make allowances for them.
I've played and watched football since I was 5, but I think that American football is the superior tv sport. However nothing beats watching football live, it grants you a completely new perspective on the players work off the ball which changes so much when it comes to enjoyment. Watching a talented central midfielder live is probably my favorite thing when it comes to sport, and I love to watch a lot of different sports. Watching the NFL on my computer beats watching the PL, but nothing will ever come close to seeing my local club playing live
>"Fucking Amerifats letting 300 pound mongoloids play their '''''''sport'''''''''"
>"There is no strategy at all. None. I could take a team to a Super Championship if I wanted to because I have a higher intellectual intellegence then all Americans!"
>"I am probably more talented then their """""""athletes""""""". I may be a 5'8" 175 European, but at at least I'm not as fat as the typical American sportsball player!"
>"soccer is superior in athleticism, strategy, and enjoyment of your dumb little game"
Because they are entertaining in different ways.
American football is designed to be short and sweet. Plays last a very short amount of time, and every single one of them matters. That's why you feel entertained after a game even though the amount of actual action was very short. The season is the same way. It barely lasts 4 months for most teams and little more for the others. Also its a single competition, as opposed to football where even the shit teams compete in at least 2 competitions every season.
Football on the other hand is much slower tempo constant spectacle where the appeal is that important plays can happen at any time but no one knows when. At any time a keeper can botch a goal kick to give away an easy goal, a player can slide in with a knee high tackle and dynamite his own team. Entertainment is provided not only by scores but also the numerous misses, dribbles, antics etc..Thats not to say that such things dont occur in american football, but they are not the main appeals. Also, football exists in gigantic volumes from numerous leagues within countless nations. If you watch enough leagues there is no such thing as a week, hell, even a day without football for the entire year. Euro football also feels more ad-libbed, with very few instances of rehearsed plays working out, in contrast to american football where every player knows exactly what they are going to do before the snap with occasional improvisations.
But the truth is that people mostly prefer the one they grew up with. Americans can't understand how europeans tolerate their kits being walking billboards and euros can't get how can someone watch a near 4 hour program for little over 10 minutes of action.
All in all they are the same, they just provide entertainment in different ways for different people.
pls no bully its just the views of a poor soviet block peasant
I think having played football yourself is more important to enjoying it than it is for American football. I've no idea if it's true, but I don't think I would enjoy watching football as much if I hadn't played it myself growing up.
No, you are not.
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>Why is American Football more entertaining than soccer?
It's not, you are just an ads-watching-machine
>I mean, for euros that shit on American Football for only having "11" minutes of actual game time action and a bunch of commercials
This is a fact though
>that Green Bay/Arizona was probably one of the most entertaining sporting matches i've ever seen
Really? Just because that coin flip? Were you born this decade or something?
>Is something like the Hail Mary, or the fucked up coin toss equal the same as having a boring 0-0 draw the whole game
Not actually since penalties on "soccer" are really exciting and make even people that root for other teams watch it, unlike retarded people just throwing a handegg here and there
>But it seems to me that even for a game that has 11 minutes of actual game time seems really fucking entertaining for some reason
This "for some reason" you speak of means "I literally watch almost 2 hours of ads and I'm brain damaged to unironically enjoy it"
>What do you think?
Canadians are legitimate retarded
soccer is 90 minutes tied at 0. youre just watching an offense play keep-away with the ball for 10 minutes and theyre still at center field and havent got any closer to the goal. because the defenders advantage is disgusting.
handegg is commercials commercials commercials and whoops your 13 play drive just got completely nullified by a random stupid penalty. even when theres 20 penalties occurring on every play that go uncalled. also theres like 8 players on each side who never even touch the ball or need to display any kind of skill, they are just dumb pieces of meat.
basketball - every player must defend, every player must score, there is no insulting hierarchy of positions. every player is a completely unique combination of variable height, wingspan, first step, shooting, ball handling, IQ, man defender, team defender, that creates unlimited interesting combinations. a team can score 10 in a quarter or 40 in a quarter, theres huge variance in a single game. games are constantly decided in the final seconds of play in the most exciting way possible.
no, because controlling and defending possession of a puck with a stick on offense is way easier than doing the same with a large ball with only your feet.
its way too easy for the defense in soccer to disrupt the advance of offense, one guy just has to sell out and slide and instantly theres a 50/50 play to redetermine possession.
>being this unpartial
You are not obliged to enjoy soccer but you don't have to act like a nigger because of it. Your argument is literally nothing. I wonder if you are also one of those guys that defend NASCAR over real motorsports because the cars are shitboxes.
I honestly don't if /sp/ would be better without flags. I love replying 9-11 to 7-1posting and calling indians subhuman scum.
It's like being at /int/ without the faggots and once per week, we tall about actual sports.
>biggest baddest athletes of all time
>wear pads so they cant even worry about their own health when they destroy niggas
>boo hoo soccer is better
Soccer is what gay uncoordinated kids do. Boo hoo no contact waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
Possession in soccer is a tactic that's used to draw opposing players out of position or run out time.
Sorry that you have Severe ADD and must see action 100% of the time. It's pretty clear you prefer checkers over chess.
Handegg is fun to watch but I'd never want to play it, that's the key difference between it and our football
>let me hold the ball whilst a few 300 pound giganigs rush me and cry to crush my skull
What was that playoff game last week? People were getting heemed left and right. Some dude even popped up in the fencing position. Great to watch still. I like that gladiator aspect to it.
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How to play football(american) with 4-5 buddies on each side, can be played 2 hand touch or tackle, this example will be tackle, since I am not a pussy
Just defend, can be any amount of people doing whatever you want, but usually 1 rusher, and four cover guys
>4 total downs, 2 completions past the line of scrimmage is a first down
>Quarterback walks up to line of scrimmage, holds ball over the line of scrimmage, says hike, and steps back from the line
>Defense begins counting (1 mississippi...2 mississippi...up to 5 mississippi at which point he can run and try to tackle the Quarterback)
>Quarterback attempts to complete a pass, and does so, or the pass falls incomplete, or the defense intercepts the ball, or the qb is sacked
>Play continues like this until a turnover, or a touchdown is scored.
>Kickoffs are the same as in game, one team kicks, or throws off, the other team returns up the field until they score or are tackled
>No extra points
>Penalties are the same as in game(most prevalent are Pass Interference and holding)
>Keep scoring until an agreed upon limit, or just play for fun
yea all those denver receivers are coordinated faggot and they are in the semis
have you seen a fatass football player do literally anything else? not to mention half of them are literally fucking retarded, even when it comes to their own sport.
multiple fucking times in a game you see these niggers fail to throw the ball away to avoid a sack, or stay in bounds / running out to manage the clock
they are literally fucking retarded
also...completely forgot, the defense gets to 'blitz' once every set of four downs, in which there is no mississippi count, and any amount of defenders are free to run at the QB the moment he snaps the ball
i tried to watch a match, there was a play and the referee stooped it then they showed the play from different angles several times for like 5 minutes.I arrived to the conclusion that the memes are real
It's the feeling of suspense. The limited play time makes the action all the more frenetic and intense once it occurs. You get the build up before the ball is snapped and other deliberations.
It's kind of a like a thriller movie as opposed to a non-stop action flick. Also, pretty comfy to watch since you don't have to train your eyes on the game the whole time and can talk to people, eat, do homework or something.
>mfw a pakistani was trying to argue that field hockey is harder to play than ice hockey because sliding on ice is easier than running on ground
After World War 2 we had a huge influx of refugees from the parts of Europe that weren't quite white enough to get into the country before, and they effectively brought the love of the game with them. Since then it's always been really popular in their communities. More recently it's become more mainstream as poms migrate here and are white enough and in sufficient numbers to bring it into the mainstream.
No """Australians""" call it football but most of the people who actually care about the sport have called it football or fotbal or calcio or ποδόσφαιρο all their lives.
>Why is American Football more entertaining than soccer?
That's a matter of opinion tbphwyf.
I find that I can enjoy both, especially when I watch American Football on a British broadcaster that replaces ad breaks with game analysis and discussion. It's a lot easier for me to maintain interest in such circumstances, perhaps because I'm so used to switching off from a sporting spectacle once the adverts kick in.
The only thing I would say in terms of preference is that scoring feels a lot more cathartic in Association Football. I tend to get more intense emotional peaks and troughs over the course of a game for some reason.
I guess the way I'd describe it is that American Football feels like a series of quickies whereas Association Football is more like edging until intense release. Ultimately there's a lot of enjoyment to be found in both.
> Anonymous 01/18/16(Mon)08:07:43 No.65026536▶
NFL is classic Hunter v Prey but it puts a twist on the usual cheetah chasing the gazelle theme.
Instead of Hunter v Prey
It's Hunter vs Hunter
or if theres a blocker it's
Hunter + Hunter vs Hunter or Hunters
So it's a twist on a basic instinct, now two hunters are hunting each other and another hunter can even interfere with another hunters' hunt. IE: a blocker.
SO yes it is more entertaining than any other sport. Its a hunt. With human beings.
how is that post cancerous its what it is, if youve played it youd see that it is absolutely a hunt, on a ground level, there are people that want to stop you from getting to your prey, and you shuck them and get to your target. How is that not a fucking hunt.
Its a learned thing. Like a sever tackle is learned. If you hit someone its instinctual to rotate but instead of rotating which lets them slip free you should sink your nails into skin equipment cloth etc and hit them head on into a body part and attempt to sever them in half by applying backwards pressure on what youre hitting, not rotational. Your first few tackles will be rotational and it lets them land on you which you dont want.
you dont you yourself to be the cushion for the fall, a sever tackle lets them be your cushion and the ground to be their cushion. it reverses roles.
You jew cunt. You know fucking nothing about this game if youve only watched it.
>criticizing football for only having 11 minutes of action
>criticizing americans for needing too much action
looks like Mohammed here forgot what he was arguing when he went to go pray on his flying carpet