>people who think Liga BBVA is better than the Prem not even in response to your webm, before you post Prem examples of things like that. Liga BBVA is just Barca and Madrid(s) ruining people, not entertaining in the long run.
>>65025339 that just means Real Madrid are a world-class team, I was not implying that all the teams are better in the Prem, simply that it is, in my opinion, the most entertaining, exciting and competitive league. It has all these features along with world-class teams playing in it, whom people just want to call money teams and so on...but what are Madrid and Barca? Also money teams, thats just the truth in sports, money is correlative to success.
>>65025382 >along with world-class teams playing in it Lol no, if you seriously think that Arsenal, Man U or Spurs are world class then you are just deluded
>competitive league Only because all the teams are pretty much equally shit
>entertaining Well the big teams have become shit, only City and Arsenal play occasional entertaining football. The smaller teams have become better though thanks to being able to buy loads of decent players
>exciting This is the only correct statement you made. It is exciting because of the parity and all of the fun story lines like >Van Gaal, Leicester and Chelsea's demise.
>>65025880 Fuck off you hipster cunt, you seem to be judging your Prem hate on a season where every top team is struggling, look at it over the past decade and English triumph in the CL is second to none. 3 different PL teams have have the trophy in the last 10 years, compared to 2 La Liga teams.
>>65025938 >3 different PL teams have have the trophy in the last 10 years Reminder that Liverpool's CL win is finally more than 10 years ago so this >the league is good because it has 3 CL winners in the last 10 years meme can die
>>65025902 Yeah, because City are a borderline world class team. The problem is it's hard to call any team that isn't Barca, Real or Bayern world class because there is such a big gap between these 3 teams and the rest.
>>65025938 Yes, mid-2000's the PL was very good and Chelsea, Liverpool and Man U were 3 of the best teams in Europe. Things have changed pretty rapidly since then and in case you hadn't realised only Chelsea have been respectable in Europe in recent years.
>implying I hate the Prem I watch it every week and it's the only league I watch. It's called being realistic and not deluded.
>>65026106 >players are extremely fit see I keep hearing this but then then everyone in England complains about the Thursday-Sunday cycle of the Europals and how the fatigue hurts them in the EPL but it never seems to impact Sevilla, Fiorentina, Napoli etc. So how much fitter are they really
notcie how real madrid players don;t really celebrate goals in la liga because scoring 5 goals+ is what they are meant to do. And they get pissy with each other for not setting each other up for easy goals against the amateur defenders in la liga. The whole team is just full of greedy cunts who want to play and score for themselves.
>>65026158 Honestly I like having two cup competitions, it's more to watch and the FA Cup replay is a tradition that has been for ages. If it hurts the English teams in Europe I don't really care, the only time I'll care about it is if we lose our 4th place CL spot, but I can't see that happening unless Serie A continues it's revival and PL teams keep getting worse (which surely can't happen with all the money)
Chelsea's run is obviously the best English CL run ever. They beat the best team in the world when they were still in their prime, came back against Napoli, and came back against Bayern in the final at their home stadium.
>>65026192 it might be a case that the increasing internal competition is hurting the EPL in Europe. If Leicester get top 4 that's basically 1 wasted CL spot next year. Meanwhile Barca Real and Atletico are practically guaranteed last 16 each year
I agree with you pastabro, I would scrap the shitty league cup and no fa cup replays, but the jews in charge of english football will never allow it because they get to squeeze even more money out of working joe public football fan
>>65026182 God you're such a faggot, I clearly said that the top teams are in shambles this season but overall the EPL is still better if you look at it over a certain timescale and has produced more CL winners than La Liga
>>65026325 that's not what I mean. I mean that the EPL is being hurt by its own financial success. It's not crazy to imagine teams lamenting 2nd 3rd and 4th spot because they wouldn't give 2 shits about the CL 10 years from now.
>>65026389 right, I mean smaller teams hope for an away tie to get cash and with no replays it means they might get shafted so they should get some recompense. Don't know how they can do it but I'm sure it can be done
It's not really 'wasted' though is it? Leicester's fans will get to enjoy being in the CL and the club will make millions, plus it's going to be entertaining for all us to see how Leicester and Le Chat Shit Man do in the CL
>>65026441 the club will make a fraction of what just staying in the Prem gives them, not to mention being in the top 4. Their squad won't be able to handle 2 games a week, especially if they play an aggressive press and they'll gladly sacrifice the CL group for better EPL placement. Can't argue that it will be entertaining of course
>>65026453 which small teams exactly? Because fans of bottom 6 EPL clubs would much rather stay in the Prem and would play youngsters in the cups, not to mention their owners
>>65026502 >Birmingham relegated same year, would burn the cup in a ritual fire if it meant staying up >Swansea about to be relegated now, would do the same
they money in the EPL is just insane, only Championship level and below teams care for it. I've heard some older Wigan fans claim they gladly accepted the FA cup and relegation but even they say it half-heartedly
>>65026587 If my team ever get promoted we won't compete for a european spot, and I know I'd rather see us going for it in cups than just treading water for years. Which do you think means more to arsenal fans, the FA Cups or the years of being in 4th?
>>65026598 being in the EPL makes them attractive. The trophy evidently did nothing for them, judging by their current place
>>65026611 you represent an increasingly smaller subset of fans. Arsenal fans only rate the FA cups because they also finished top 4 those years. If it was one or the other they'd burn the cups immediately. I mean hell, some of them were seriously arguing throwing the games against Barca to focus on the league run
They're only in their current position because they fucked up with a managerial appointment and problems in the dressing room. If they had been smarter they could have been in Leicester's position, or at least Stoke's
>>65026630 So basically as soon as a team starts to go downwards, they should burn their whole history just for one more season? Saying villa should sacrifice their European cup to avoid relegation this season?
>>65026671 I'm not saying what should happen but what is happening. If Villa somehow got an FA cup run and there was danger of exhaustion or injuries you wouldn't find a Villa fan under 60 who wouldn't advocate throwing the cup and focusing on the league
>>65026865 No. He does this shit all the time. He's kicked people, punched them, pushed them, straight-up dived on multiple occasions, he never gets a single booking for it. No one demonises him for it. He's La Liga's golden boy.
>>65028688 Well, if shit comes to push, I'll still be watching it in some pub in Madrid for the atmosphere and banter. And to watch it with fellow students who most likely won't be able to afford a ticket at those.
What are some traditional ways you watch the games? Irish Pubs? Betting pubs or what are those called? Or outside in the public screening?
>>65028734 We have a huge clture of watching games in terraces with pintxos, beer and outside TVs, you'll find thousands of this everywhere in Spain, literally 4 out of 5 business here are bars so you won't have problems, if you are with other students you'll enjoy it no doubt.
>>65029721 Remove benidorm, denia and oliva, they're going to be desserted if not in summer, also Almeria's (cabo de gata and carboneras) and Malaga's beaches are way better. Leon is also a cool city, and Toledo too and is more or less an hour away from Madrid and you can see it all in one day. Have a lot of fun mate!
Gijon is increible but only in summerr .out of summer is better Oviedo top class city ,also go to Covadonga and learn Reconquista XD >Santander like Gijon is increible in summer ,out of summer meh >Comillas ,Santillana del Mar are greats all year long >San Sebastian great city ,less the old town muh pro-etarras (no Spain shirt here) >Madrid Great >Salamanca glorious >Barcelona spanish berlin >la Coruña like Gijon is increible in summer ,out of verano muh rain >León like oviedo great city ,365 days open
>>65026258 United/Chelsea may be the lelpls only hope in Europe for the next few years. I'm serious, Arse and City will never do anything in Europe with their current squads, they go in expecting to get knocked out. Numerous players need to replaced with players who know how to win in europe, along with a manager who can instill a winning philosophy, which City may actually do soon IF things work out for them. If they don't end up getting pep or at least someone significantly better than pelligrini, which is actually a lot harder than it sounds at the moment, they can be written off for the next 2 years. Arse however will never do that and they will also always take up a top 4 spot.
United/Chelsea possibly being the leagues only hope is not a good thing. Both squads are in shambles, but they at least have players who know what it takes to do well in Europe within THAT squad, and even they're running thin on those players now. I could see it being 3-4 years or more before the epls top teams can come close to matching La Ligas top teams/Bayern in terms of quality. When you see them play against each other the disparity becomes incredibly obvious, its not even moderately close. If Chelsea go out early this year I wouldn't expect to see any EPL team making the semis without getting an extremely lucky schedule.
The reason I write off Leicester/Spurs, they just don't have the $ to compete with Barca, Bayern and Real
>>65032363 You have to remember that EPL has one major handicap compared to the other leagues, and that is their match calendar. If an EPL team would win all the competitions available they'd play at least 15 games more than teams in any other league since EPL has more teams and they also have an extra competition, the League Cup. Add to that that all the non-EU players are guaranteed to play most of their national teams' games since their work permit implies they're starters for their countries, whilst in other leagues there's a lower chance for a non-EU player to start in NT games.
Another problem of the Premier League is the sturdiness of mid-table teams. Since they are backed with a lot of money they can afford to bring in better players than teams from the same regions of other league tables. That means that top teams have little room to take a breather since few games are "sure wins", whilst Barca, Real or Bayern constantly trash their opponents week in week out without breaking a sweat. This is not only a physical effort but a mental one, a starter in a top EPL team will be more worn out than someone playing for a top team in other leagues.
Another factor for their awful coefficient is the complete lack of interest for Europa League. West Ham played fucking Astra Giurgiu from Romania and Slaven Bilic didn't even make the flight there, his assistant led the team from the side! And that's because "sacrificing" an EPL fixture has far more important financial repercussions than missing out the Europa League money [that barely counts]. In UCL the interest exists, but English teams still have a harder time on which sacrifice to settle, unlike teams from Germany or Spain.
That being said, it's obvious that Barcelona has managed to build an extraordinary team, while Bayern have been extremely efficient with how they spent their money in the past 6 years. So it's obvious that English teams have room to improve, but all I say is that they have a tough road ahead.
>>65026762 >GOAT defenders and GK (especially Godin) >Simeone >The young guys are doing it right (Vietto, Oliver, Correa) >Even Fernandon't Scorres tries to come back defending and shit >Griezmann scores the goals against the shitty clubs
That's literally how you do it. Meanwhile Donaldo scores 23 goals against Literally Who FC but won't score a penalty against Sevilla and Celta Vigo
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