>post yfw you realize that ESPN is dying and there's nothing anyone can do to save them
>getting cucked by overpaying for College Football and the NBA
NBC Sports has been smart to pick smaller sports with dedicated fanbases. Like soccer and NASCAR. Pretty smart move 2bh I like the direction they've chosen.
FS1 will throw all kinds of money at overtaking ESPN because they can. Disney is powerful and rich, but they don't have shit on Murdoch and Newscorp. And FS1 has the advantage of learning from ESPN's mistakes.
CBSSN will remain small and limited.
Why do you think they over reported the committee wanting the deal? They wanted to look like the best deal
Ironically enough they didn't have enough shekels and planning to make it happen
the CFP was the final nail in the coffin. Monday Night Football hurts, but they're on the hook for several billion to broadcast the CFP assuming it'd be getting Superbowl-ish type ratings. They miscalculated big time.
ESPN is paying 470 million/year JUST for the CFP.
In contrast, Turner is paying 1.2 billion/year to broadcast NBA games. That includes all of the regular season and playoffs. And some of those playoff games will get ratings that match what ESPN got for their highest rated CFP game this year. Turner and ESPN both are getting a lot more bang for their buck with the NBA deal, although it should be pointed out that Turner does a much better job at using it with better pre and postgames that people want to watch.
By paying 470 million/year to broadcast 6 games ESPN set itself up for disaster.
they will save themselves with LGBTcenter which only focuses on gay/trans/queer athletes in the sporting world
followed up a daily 4 hour roundtable where wilbon, stephan a smith, and bomani jones discuss which white NFL coaches are possible KKK members
Fox Sports 1 is no great shakes but ESPN is even poisoning Sportscenter now with SJW shit...long segments on how we must feel for Walsh and "muh concussions".
Not to mention hiring that dumbfuck Mendoza to shit up baseball.
MSNBC of sports...great fucking idea.
ESPN pays 1.9 billion/year for the NFL.
NBCSN pays 1 billion for 6 years of Premier League Games. And they pay around 4ish billion for 10 years of NASCAR (FOX pays about the same to broadcast half the season while NBC gets the other half).
While neither will get ratings like the bigger sports get, they're smarter longterm investments than ESPN's CFP or NFL deal.
>mfw i forgot that most of fortune was anti-jew, not just /pol/io
dis idear dat espn is duh worldwide leaduh in spawts is cahmical, ok?
Jim in Long Island, ga'head?
>Hi Mike! First time, long time! Do you think the Giants will hire Jason Giami as their new head coach? I'll hang up and listen…
Two houahs, folks
>spending $7.3 billion on a College Football, and broadcasting the games on NYE, where even people on this site have better things to do
ESPN went to shit when they started going full retard with the sports talk shit
aside from the fact that local AM radio already has that market covered, if I want to listen to two morons talk about sports I'll do it AFTER the game
Thank God memer frat dumbass college kids realized what the Internet is and replaced ESPN with slightly less shitty websites like Plebstool and Plebspin.
ESPN will finally RIP in hell. Fucking dumbass company.
>Jews are victimized for no reason and never do anything wrong
>tfw I was on /sp/ and watching those games that night
ESPNs problem is that they focus too much on national sports coverage. Regional coverage is so encompassing for the average viewer, they can get all the information they need about their team from their regional sports channel. Big national games are less enticing. Yes, the matchups may be good but the individual teams aren't as big a draw because most people have already seen the good teams play vs their home team. Not to mention most people want discussion tailored to their team/interests. You can't really get that from a national broadcaster, especially so on one like espn who is going to push their own agenda/stories and ignore certain teams and even entire sports. it's no surprise ESPNs ratings are dropping. They aren't needed as a channel anymore with so much more and better information available elsewhere.
Why doesnt Disney just put a bullet to the head of espn and put MNF and he CFP on ABC?
They do it for basketball and for regular season collage games, why not for the NFL and the playoff?
>entire race of people are inherently bad
>it's a conspiracy, look
>casual to moderate racism is the only truth
Because ABC is free with an antenna and every person with ESPN is paying 7 dollars/month on their cable bill to have it.
Now multiply that 7 dollars with the number of households that have cable or satellite package and you get a large chunk of ESPN (and Disney's) revenue.
By putting it on ABC they're making it easier for people NOT to have a cable or satellite package and that would bury the network. While ad revenue would increase with higher ratings, it wouldn't be close to offsetting the money they'd lose from subscriptions.
>the one night people are not home
wtf were they thinking
And the reason other networks can do a mix of cable and OTA channels is because their business model is totally different.
ESPN costs every cable/satellite subscriber 7 dollars per month. The next most expensive channel is TBS at around 1 dollar per month.
FOX, CBS/Turner, etc... they all have business models that aren't dependent on subscriber fees, while ESPN's entire empire was built by strong arming the TV market into forcing ESPN into EVERY single cable or satellite package anyone can get. Which forces everyone with cable/sat to pay that 7 dollars whether they watch sports or not.
tldr the other networks aren't losing a lot from cable cutters, only ESPN and Disney are crumbling.
>spend out the nose for rights to everything
>only usually show one game at a time on the main networks and the other channel is just Sportscenter or some talking heads show hosted by a black journalism major and a washed up mediocre former athlete
Let em sink
>I called him racist
You know that's not how debates are won right? I can show you proof if you would like to see proof but then you can use pic related as a response and I'm stumped. That's how millennials "argue" in the 21st century isn't it? Good luck with your nigger epidemic.
And the real threat to ESPN isn't cord cutters, even though they're definitely killing ESPN slowly but surely, it's the actual cable and satellite providers.
They're in the money making business too, and cord cutters are definitely hurting their business. There's a lot of talk about unbundling cable and satellite packages and allowing subscribers to hand pick the channels they want so they're only paying for shit that they watch. This model would be amazing for the providers but would absolutely crush ESPN. If they do unbundle the packages, ESPN could lose anywhere from 30-50% of their subscribers right away.
That is how ESPN dies.
This. The a-la-carte cable package will be a thing in ten years, much in the same manner that free minutes became a thing (only oldfags will remember before iphones when minutes, not data, was the big thing for cellphones). Once Comcast goes a-la-carte, ESPN gets royally fucked. And at that point, why would any major league want to bother with ESPN when they could got to Netflix or Comcast directly, or just do things on their own?
I think it'll be a thing in the next 2 years, with serious talks about changing the model happening this year.
If cable and satellite providers allowed customers to handpick their channels it'd make everyone's bill lower since nobody would be paying for shitty channels that they don't watch. It'd bring back a lot of cord cutters and be a win win for everyone except ESPN.
I doubt it would be able to bring back cord cutters, just slow the trend. Comcast is in the business of making money and as soon as they go a-la-carte they will also have data caps. The more people that cut the cord, the more Comcast pushes data caps.
So fucking glad. All the "reporters" were saying that Carson was a done deal because Iger made the owners wet.
Instead, the Rams are back home, and Spanos will be massively BLACKED if he actually decides to go to LA to play 2nd fiddle in JerryWorld West
Handpicked tv packages will start on satellite. Dish or Directv will be first.
And it won't be just going through and picking each channel you want, since a lot of channels are actually bundled together.
Like FS1 and Fox News are bundled in with other Fox stuff. TBS, TNT, TruTV and shit like that together. The ESPNs are together...
Customers would just pick each little bundle they want to subscribe to and build their own monthly package. It's gonna happen really soon.
I sure as hell wouldn't pay for it. I only watch that shit channel when I have to -(CFP, occasional MNF game, occasional MLB "game of the week"). That's literally the only time I'm on that channel. Sportscenter has become a talking tabloid. It was good 15 years ago.
Any exclusive game they broadcast that I want to see I'll go watch at a local sports bar.
ESPN's main problem and the true reason for its decline is because of cable cutters.
Fuck a contracted Cable Bill. You can watch everything over the Internet with Amazon TV, Apple TV , Google TV , Roku, Livestreams , YouTube , ext.
The future is with a subscribed streaming service. I'm using Sling TV to get all my live sports like ESPN, it'll catch on and they'll recover I think
I'm aware. Sat Internet services (which my parents have) already have defacto data caps via the painfully slow bandwidth/speeds. So of course they would be the first to adopt it, and a-la-carte starts with smaller bundles before going down onto a channel-by-channel basis.
I actually like ESPN but that's mainly because it's good value for me. $20 a month for my sports channels, ESPN plus BT and Setanta. They have a lot of shitty filler shows but for that price it's worth it.
I don't think people would hate them so much if they weren't ripping them off
Not him, but I'm 37 and remember it well. ESPN was a staple of my late childhood and high school years. It's painfully to see how far it's fallen since the SJW/jew cartel took it over.
This. I've been telling everyone I know that cable will be obsolete in the next 7-10 years. Only baby boomers will hold on to it since they're uncomfortable with the fast paced internet world.
Haven't had cable for the last two years, just hook my laptop up with my hdmi cable and I can get 90% of the sports I want (don't watch tv series, that's a huge waste of time) the other 10% I can't pick up I hit the sports bar like the other anon mentioned.
I don't have cable and no real interest in getting it. If I did, it would only be for Fox Sports so i can watch my baseball team.
ESPN just sort of has generic big games that I don't really care all that much about in general.
it's basically for piece of shit buffalo wild wings fans.
>hating on BWW
What's the matter, you don't like having fun? What's so bad about getting drunk and full of wings watching the game with your bros for $20.00?
I think you're taking this >muh secret internet club thing way too seriously.
But, this is assuming you have IRL friends, which this post is indicating that you don't.
It makes me happy how infuriated you got over a mere sentence
We really are here forever, aren't we
>still on 4chan
I thought that age group was limited to /pol/ and the influx of stormniggers and blue collared garbage who took memes too serious
I'm afraid so, friend. The ride never ends.
Sports journalism beyond coverage of games, and relevant news about teams (player/coach transactions, injuries etc) is all bullshit. ESPN took it to new heights. Literally entire segments on their bullshit talk shows about a quote or a tweet from a player...WHAT DOES IT MEAN? IS HE CLUTCH? HELL NEVER BE GOOD? FAKE DRAMA AND BULLSHIT?
It worked for a few years but then people got tired of it. I watched morning take like five years ago and i though that shit was stale as fuck already...and guess what its still on.
The vast majority of people dont give a fuck about the history of the sport, its players or even their own teams. And for the ones that do, theres just not enough money to be made off of them to make something like ESPN work. Which they are finding out about now.
Holy shit, that's actually very accurate.
Mike really is the best in how he handles callers.
>Super Bowl contest coming up in 2 weeks
Should we try a live thread?
ESPN is the same company so butthurt about people like Jay Glazer and other channels they don't even mention them by name, while you have instances like Al Michaels and Chris Collinsworth mentioning Joe Buck and Troy Aikmen by name during a broadcast. ESPN just tries hard to keep themselves secluded from everything and everyone outside their little box.
How do you listen ,online?
Sucks he's not on TV anymore. He was dumb to go to Fox Sports, he should have went to MSG, he'd never be interrupted by live sports and plus they'd replay a "best of" show like all day since they have close to no original programs
They can start by doing something for cord cutters which is definitely where e sports gets it audience
ESPN's programming is tailored to manufacture stories, aka the CNN model. They air empty air bullshit in the day to get viewers and fill in sports to augment that reporting.
The current generation of Millennial don't resonate with that model of media. They enjoy shorter, shareable experience. ESPN isn't able to pivot in this direction quickly. They're tied into the business of making stories and celebrities.
Aljazeera America fell under for the same reasons.
90+% of the fanbase of any given SEC school not named Vanderbilt is made up of hillbillies and/or rednecks who only ever come within a mile of a university to watch some "footbawl"
Not really because they have a game just about every night and Hockey doesn't have afternoon games where they would need it. And of the sports that do, they get about the same as running the Happy Hour shows. Fox has the rights to soccer sans WC and despite getting college BB now CBS gets the tournament. So, they have to go all in on the NBA somehow getting a rating spike with GS or the SEC NOT playing the national title game next year.
its almost as if people dont like loud annoying niggers infesting every show
Sportcenter at its height was 1 hour of highlights from just about every game or US sport played the day before, with 1 interview on Sunday and Top Ten on Monday. They started doing all this other shit because by the time Sportcenter came on everyone already saw the highlights they wanted to see.
>ESPN grows so desperate they relegate all airtime solely to programs discussing and commenting on sports
>ESPN no longer has sports
>already produced spinoffs, so they can't pull an MTV2
>DIsney reveals SPEC (spectator), a new network that only broadcasts actual sports (with competitors and athletes)
>I'm finally at peace
>ESPN3 (their streaming service)
Ten networks for the company the brings you the National Spelling Bee on its main channel.
But the early sports center hosts turned in to personalities and a few got famous, I think ESPN realized that sports fans would watch outspoken entertaining people debate sports by witnessing the rise of some of the SC anchors
Huh, I knew ESPN fellated the SEC network, but I always thought they were independent entities. I didn't know ESPN actually owned the SEC and Longhorn networks.
>espn starts covering video games
>video game geeks thinks its because their gay ass "sports" are popular and not thats its a desperate attempt to fleece as much money from nerds because the ship sinks
Classic exists but you actually have to buy it separately in another package. It's broadcast of the BCS title game was actually pretty awesome since it was just in stadium sound with no commentary. If only they did that more often.
If I'm scrolling through sometimes ESPN Classic is showing old strong man comps from the early nineties and Brent Musberger is lustily interviewing the contestants. I bet Brent was the guy everyone picked on there. (bc lazy eye Scott was black)
That's good business 2bh breh. Who's at home weekdays during the day watching tv more than anyone else? Well why the fuck wouldn't you cater tv shows to them?
Just like soap operas started on the radio then onto tvs for housewives cuz they were who was home then.
More women work now so those aren't as big, but there's a lotta black ppl sittin at home on weekdays that's for sure. Whole new demo to take advantage of.
Like all the ghetto "court" shows that are all over during the day.
>ESPN is going all in with their black Grantland and hope to launch later this year
I'm sure that'll save em lol
>ESPN revenue is currently 9 bil
>Estimates are that under a la carte model, ESPN could only bring in 4 bil
>ESPN is on the hook for 5.8 bil per year just in broadcasting fees in upcoming years, not to mention other costs like labor and facilities
holy shit they might be losing a LOT of money soon
ESPN used to have an international channel (ESPN america) that was goat tier. Super Bowls, World Series, NBA finals etc.. and daily programming like a European specific sportscenter, PTI and that annoying hispanic guy (Dan something) and his mentally challenged father sports talk.
But as American sports rights expanded throughout Europe, the channel got watered down to a 24-hour loop of MLB and college hoops. The occasional PTI couldn't show any clips, so it was basically two guys talking about clips they couldn't show. After that, my life was never the same
This has more to do with people getting rid of cable in general. The only thing really getting cable alive is live sports. Without it, most if not all people would just get rid of cable.
The Ticket in Dallas.
Here are my experiences with ESPN general programming in 2015
>turn on sportscenter
>it's two bimbo women talking about football
>turn it off
>turn on sportscenter
>it's two bimbo women talking about draft kings picks
>turn it off
>turn on sportscenter
>it's blatant TMZ tier lebron coverage of NFL shilling for deflategate pseudoscience
>turn it off
That basically sums it up. It is unwatchable now.
E! can go fuck themselves right into bankruptcy
>michelle beadle announces she will stop following wwe
>wwe results now posted on espn
I hope espn will be as dead as stuart scott