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>8-1 in the divisional round
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>(1)8-1
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>1-0 in the divisional round
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>>64868588
fucking jets, that was gronks rookie year and before edelman became the player who he is today
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>>64868739
>Brady hadn't thrown an interception in over 9000 attempts and had like 4 the whole season
>Throws a pick on a fucking screen pass against the Jets
>Lose to Mark Sanchez led team you blew out 45-3 a few weeks prior

That loss hurt almost as much as SB 42.
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>>64868588
>AFC
>An accomplishment
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>>64869083

The NFC has been way more shit over brady's career
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>>64868588

>AFC

Literally who they even have to play each year worth anything? Big "interception machine" Ben? Peyton "perennial choker" Manning? Joe "remember when I won a Super Bowl" Flacco? I doubt the Pats would be anywhere near as consistent in the NFC.
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>>64869083
Teams with losing records entering the postseason- postseason record
>AFC: 0-0
>NFC: 2-2

Amazing conference you have there
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>>64869118
>Main competition is the AFC is the Colts Broncos
>Both overrated as fuck
>NFC has Packers, Bears during their prime, Cardinals, 49ers, Seahawks, Now Panthers
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>>64869166
Sorry Texas, NFC sucks.
The Steelers and Pats by themselves wipe the floor with the NFC for a decade.
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>>64869262
SO what you're saying is the only other good team in the AFC is the steelers?
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>>64869239
Bears were definitely in their prime during Brady's career.
Cardinals, Panthers, 49ers? Is this a joke?

>the city of you
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>>64869239
>NFC has Packers, Bears during their prime, Cardinals, 49ers, Seahawks, Now Panthers

Those teams are 2-6 in super owls since 2000
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AFC doesn't have parity.

Always Brady, Ben, and Peyton for a majority of the years with a random Flacco appearance.
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>>64869300
Colts, Broncos, Ravens. zzz
And AFC is like 8-4 in the last 12 bowls you cuck
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>>64869309
$(ers were good at one point. You didn't say for the majority of his career, just his career.
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>>64869353
Way to back pedal tiger

>AFC is shit
>Get proven wrong
>A-AFC doesn't have parity

The AFC also also hasn't let losing teams into the post season, let alone win games in the fucking playoffs.
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>>64869379
>naming panthers, cards, and niners
>not naming the giants, seahawks, or saints
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>>64869444
I did says Seahawks. Honestly forgot the saints
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>>64869453
Why wouldn't you
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>>64869059

I tried telling my friends that even though they were 14-2 that year, they were smoke and mirrors. It was only a matter of time before they got their shit kicked in. Hell, the Browns did it that same year.
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>Marvin Lewis hasnt been fired
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>>64869262

The point
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your head


Brady's 8-1 record means nothing considering how lopsided the AFC is. There's no competition. It's always the same teams every year.
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>>64869634
It's almost like Ohio is a joke
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>>64869634
Bengals didn't win cause Andy Dalton didn't play duhhh :^)
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>>64869059
2010 team had a better defense than the 2011 team, too. Would definitely have helped in the SB

>>64869239
>Packers
perennial doormats

>Bears
>that one year with Rax Grissman

>Cards
>Naners
>Hawks
>Panthers
Now you're just reeling off (potential in some cases) SB teams of the past 5 years or so. The Hawks have been the only ones who weren't one-hit wonders.
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>>64869648
and those same teams consistently beat the best teams the NFC has to offer.

The NFC hasn't been dominant since the early 90s and 80s

>letting 7-9 and 7-8-1 teams win in the playoffs
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>>64869767
>>Bears>that one year with Rax Grissman
they went 10-6 almost every year under Lovie
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Let's see

2001:
Beat Raiders who went to the SB the next year

2003:
Beat Titans (Lol)

2004:
Beat Manning Colts

2005:
Lost @ Denver

2006:
Beat 14-2 Chargers on the road

2007:
Beat Jaguars (Lol)

2010:
Lost to Jets (fuck)

2011:
BTFO Tebow

2012:
Texans

2013:
BTFO Luck

2014:
Beat Ravens

Not bad desu senpai
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>>64869648
>no competition

Peyton's teams have been good (at least) against us, 2-2 in the playoffs (soon to be 3-2 in favor of NE ;) Ben can go full-out at any time, Flacco can too if he can pick up enough PI yards.

>>64869887
and had the best defense in the league their SB year. They should have BTFO Peyton, especially when he was fucking up by himself.

>>64869909
>two (2) playoff one-and-dones for Brady
>nine (9, soon to be ten [10]) for Peyton
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>>64870098
Actually only the Jets was one and done. He went one and done when the Pats got BTFO by the Ravens in 2009 though
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>>64869909
and for the Indianapolis/Denver Peytons


>1999
one-and-out in Div vs. One-Yard-Shorts (1)

>2000
one-and-out in WC vs. Lelphins (2)

>2002
BEEEE-LOOOOOOWN THE FUCK OUT in a 41-0 one-and-out loss to the Jest in the WC (3)

>2003
lost conf @Pats (finally 2 playoff wins lolololol)

>2004
20-3 loss @Pats in division (after putting up 49 on the Broncos in the WC)

>2005
one-and-out in division vs. Steelers (4)

>2006
I can haz Super Bowls lelelel

>2007
one-and-out in division vs. Chargers (5)

>2008
one-and-out in WC @Chargers (6)

>2009
SB-losing pick-six vs. the Saints

>2010
one-and out in WC vs. Jets (7)

––––––

>2012 Broncos
one-and-out in division vs. Ravens in OT (8)

>2013
>43-8

>2014
one-and-out in division vs. Colts (9)

>2015
one-and-out in division vs. Steelers (10)


overall an absolute stellar track record for Peyton Manning in the playoffs
>Nine (9) one-and-dones
>soon to be ten (10)
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>>64870855
>soon to be ten (10)
They won't lose to Pittsburgh with Brown ded and Rapistberger almost ded
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>>64870743
That 09 team was shit though. I don't hold that against him.
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>>64869909
>>64870098
Here's Peyton in the Divisional Round because I'm bored;

1999:
Lost to 13-3 Titans at home

2003:
Win on road vs 13-3 chiefs

2004:
Lost on the road to Tom Brady

2005:
Lost at home to 10-6 Steelers (oh kek)

2006:
Adam Vinateri beat the Ravens 15-6

2007:
Lost to Chorgers at home

2009:
Won vs Ravens

2012:
Lost to Ravens at home

2013:
Beat Chargers

2014:
Lost; Scored 13 points against the Colts who the next week got BTFO 45-7 by Brady kek
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>>64869426
Proven wrong how? Only 4 teams even made the Super Bowl. Zero depth.

From 03-15 it's literally only Brady, Ben, Peyton and a random Flacco.

NFC had the Eagles, Seahawks, Giants, Packers, Bears, Saints, Cardinals in that time frame.

AFC is top heavy. NFC isn't.
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>Manning's stats when he finally got 1 (one) ring
>3 TD passes in 4 games
>7 Interceptions
>70.5 rating

Fuck Reche "Literally who" Caldwell for dropping that pass, Pats would have destroyed Grossman
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>>64871223
Also forgot the 49ers
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>>64871223

If the Patriots, Colts/Broncos and Steelers played in the NFC, the NFC would have looked the same. Then you would be saying the AFC was better because different lesser teams win it every year.
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>>64871223
>Patriots
>Steelers
>Ravens
>Clots
>Broncos
>4 teams
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>>64871314
I count the teams Peyton was on as one, because the Broncos only got there because of him, same for the Colts.

Even if you separated them, NFC still has far more teams make the Bowl.
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>>64871359
>I count the teams Peyton was on as one, because the Broncos only got there because of him, same for the Colts.

>>64871257

Yeah he really carried that team
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>>64871294
No because the Gaints would have beaten the Pats in the playoffs those years too.

Having only 4 or 5 teams make it doesn't mean the entire conference is good.
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>>64871390
Yeah he did. Just like LeBron getting the Heat and Cavaliers to finals. They aren't the Heat and Cavaliers, they're the LeBrons.

Then they one year he won was despite his awful play
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>>64871223
having "diversity" of teams making the Super Bowl is an indicator of luck/upsets in the playoffs

>>64871257
>outscored by his kicker
I wonder how Adam Vinatieri felt after that SB and he was told that he had more points scored than Peyton over the 4 games
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>>64871408

>giants going into gillette and winning in the playoffs

MAYBE 1 of those years, but definitely not both.
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>>64871448
No it means parity, which means depth. Especially since those teams continue to make the playoffs and win.

How does only the Patriots, Steelers, and Peytons making the Bowl mean the ENTIRE conference is superior?

It shows the other teams suck because they can't beat Brady, Ben or Peyton.

Those three guys have 12 afc championships.

You think that isn't an indicator their competition in the AFC is awful?
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>>64869239
>only knowledge of footballs spans back 5 years
>not aware that Brady has been winning since 2001
>not aware of how shit the NFC was throughout the 2000s
>not aware of how good the AFC was in the 2000s
>this much of a fucking mouthbreather

It's not even a matter of opinion. The AFC was objectively better than the NFC throughout the 2000s the same way the NFC was objectively better than the AFC in the 80s and 90s
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>>64871507

>You think that isn't an indicator their competition in the AFC is awful?

No, it's an indicator that those teams are very good. How about actually giving credit where it's due.
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>>64871479
>Road Warrior Giants not winning on the road.

What ifs are pointless though.
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>>64871544
Like I said the AFC is top heavy. Of all 32 teams the AFC has 3 of probably the top 5 or 6.

But the rest of the teams in the AFC are ass compared to them.

Are the Bengals going 0-7 under Lewis an indicator that the AFC is superior?
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>>64871534
Exactly. The Patriots, Steelers, and Peyton's teams are the equivalent of the 49ers and later the 49ers/Cowboys.
Also, pretty sure off the top of my head the AFC didn't have playoff teams OR division "winners" with sub-.500 records.
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>>64871597
no, it's an indication of the Bungles being the Bungles, no matter who their coach is. There are always pretenders in both conferences.


>>64871854
*equivalent of the 80s-90s Niners and early 90s Cowboys
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>>64871597
Are the 8-7-1 Panthers and 7-9 Seahawks both winning their wildcard games an indicator that the NFC is superior?
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>>64871854
Yet the following years those Seahawks and Panthers drastically improved.

While the Bengals go 0-7
Jets luck their way to two AFC title games
And the AFC west does nothing until Peyton arrives
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>>64871938
since 2000
AFC: 9 owls
NFC: 7 owls

fuck that was hard
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>>64871888
Yes. Because those weren't fluke wins and the following years the Seahawks and Panthers go further.

Bungles are AFC still.

Did the Yankees constantly winning titles and pennants mean the entire American League was good?
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>>64871994
You might be the dumbest mother fucker I've ever seen on this board. Do you have any idea what an accomplishment that is?
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>>64871978
dont forget the * for the giants first owl win of the 2000s that was won on a miracle catch that should have been blown dead for 3 seperate instances of offensive holding that directly prevented defenders from making the sack.
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>>64871978
>Only the Patriots, Steelers, and Peytons with Joe Flacco

>That means the rest of the AFC is good

>Giants, Packers, Saints, Seahawks all beat Ben, Brady, and Peyton

>AFC still can't field a champion outside of that group
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>>64872036
>Can't disprove what I said
>Hurr durr you're dumb

>Bengals can't advance ever
>Panthers and Seahawks advance the following years after sub .500 division titles
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>>64872056
>Giants, Packers, Saints, Seahawks
Four teams.
>Patriots, Steelers, Ravens, Peyton Manning
Four teams.

Golly gee fucking whizz.
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>>64868588
>The 1 loss was to Rex & the >jest
Still can't believe that actually happened
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>>64872110
With the Panthers, Cardinals, 49ers, and Bears making the super bowl while the AFC teams are still the same

>More teams from a conference making the Super Bowl doesn't mean that conference has more depth and is better

>Only a few AFC teams making it year in and year out means the AFC is better

Lul
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>>64869648
Steelers won two owls, Indy won one and Ravens have won one since 2005
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>>64872194
No the AFC winning more owls means it's better you dumb fucking cum stain.
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>>64869634
Vontaze should be though
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>>64872214
>Credit the whole AFC for only the Patriots, Steelers, and Mannings winning
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>>64872056
Or the truth: the top tier 2000s AFC teams have been so dominant that they beat teams that would have gone to (and very likely won) owls

>mid 2000s chargers
>late 2000s jets
>early 2000s raiders (did actually go to an owl)

If anything the NFC was the top heavy conference during the 2000s. Who were all the great teams from every division in the 2000s? There were only 2 teams that were consistently good while the rest of the conference was either up and down every year or fucking garbage: the eagles and the packers. And you know what? neither of them won an owl in the 2000s either.
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>>64872208
We dont have an owls at heinz field sorry
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>>64869239
>Bears during their prime

Confirmed millennial
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>>64872041
If we star *ing we will be here all day. Because going throw a receiver is PI even if you intercept it.
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>>64872256
>Ryan's Jets with fucking Sanchez winning the Owl

Though the prospect of a Sanchez/Grossman Owl is hilarious
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>>64872269
Everyone knows the Bears prime was the Great Depression.
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>>64872254
>Somehow give credit the whole NFC for consistently losing to those teams

What kind of cuck logic do you operate on you shitfitting rainbow monkey?
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>>64872188
don't forget dirty sanchez
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>>64872270
It is, but that isn't what happened, Butler made a play on the ball. The difference between the two plays we are talking about here is that one is a very clearly visible foul that should be flagged 100/100 times and the other isn't even a foul be definition of the rule and no official will ever call it a foul (nor should they)
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>>64871978
This may not be the best indicator, but if you go by which SB contestant had the better team each year (not necessarily the winners):

2000: AFC (Ravens)
2001: NFC (Rams, they were objectively better even though they were upset)
2002: NFC (Bucs, knew the Raiders gameplan)
2003: AFC (Patriots, Panthers were a Cinderella team)
2004: AFC (Patriots because >iggles)
2005: NFC (Seahawks)
2006: AFC (Colts because >Lovie Smith)
2007: AFC (Patriots, self-explanatory)
2008: AFC (Steelers)
2009: AFC (Colts because the Saints D sucked D)
2010: AFC (Steelers had slightly better offense and defense)
2011: AFC (Patriots by the length of Gronk's dick)
2012: NFC (Niners)
2013: NFC (Seahawks)
2014: ...NFC? (slightly-less-GOAT-defense Seahawks)
2015: ?

That's 9/16 for the AFC. deb8 them if you want, but the overall trend still favors the AFC
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Sanchez has the 6th highest passer rating in playoff history, he had a great game against the Pats in 2010. Some of those throws were beyond elite.

I really thought the Jets had found their Sanchize QB after that game.
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>>64872332
I can't count. 9/15 in favor of the AFC
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>>64872309
>Consistently losing
>Steelers luck out vs Cardinals
>All of Brady's wins were via field goals and luck
>Peyton beating Grossman is an accomplishment

>Saints, Seahawks, Packers BTFO Peyton and Ben
>Brady loses twice to Eli
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>>64872378
If you're so obsessed with determining which conference is better outside of superb owls, what you need to do is tally the total interconference record since 2000.

Why you give a shit about which conference is better is some next level cuck magic (my team didn;t win but the teams that beat my ass did therefore I'm a winner!), but that's your bag.
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>>64872314
Just like lowering your head to hit and rb in the jaw is, but it wasn't called. Refs blow calls all the time. If you go back and look at every game you could refball your way into abdicating every win ever. Because no team plays a perfect game and everyone gets away with shit, especially late game. To say "Patriots would have won if this flag was thrown" There is a good chance you can go back and find an uncalled flag for the Pats with Brady on the field for at least half of his TDs that season. And maybe dig even deeper and fine flags that if thrown cost the pats a chance to even go.

TL;DR It is okay to hate the refs for blowing a call, but your team is given as much as it gets, no matter who they are or how blinded you are by homerism.
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>>64872378
>Saints won on a lucky pick-six
>Packers winning by 6 is not "blowing the fuck out" of anyone
>implying both Giants victories were not due to enormous amounts of luck and choking by their NFC playoff opponents
see I can play that game too
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>>64872433
Yeah, I thought it was the team I like lost to these, so I'll root for their opponents because fuck them.
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>>64872433
I've linked to this multiple times on /sp/ whenever it comes up but these fucking losers bury their heads in the sand and ignore it.

http://visual ly/afc-vs-nfc-records-year?view=true

So yes, it is pretty fucking objectively obvious and clear that the AFC was the superior conference in the 2000s
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>>64872469
Literally no one talks about that play being a penalty
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>>64872627
Which one? Shazier (because it was and it got lost in all the niggery but it would helped prevent some of it) or Helmet catch (because it was but everyone doesn't care because it is the Patriots)? My main point still stands
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>>64872378
>muh luck
>cites the giants losses
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>>64872332
2014 was a split I'd say. The Pats and Seahawks were both equally dominant that season.
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>>64873202
exactly. if vegas called it the first toss-up SB ever I'd say it was about even.
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>>64869166
Packers, Giants, Cowboys, 49ers, to name a few teams more noteworthy in history, don't just limit it to a decade be as it suits your autistic post better faggot
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>>64868588
GOAT
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>>64872194

It means that the NFC has parity. It does not mean the NFC is better.

We need to compare the NFC vs AFC records (in the last decade, two decades, etc) to compare which conference tends to bring home the lombardi.
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>>64875845
see
>>64872618
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Is Tom Brady the Greatest of All Time?
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>>64868672
Kek
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>>64869239
>Packers
Most overrated team in the league. Never beats anyone but trash teams, the Steelers of the NFC
>Bears
LOL
>Cardinals
Muh Knee and quickly aging roster. This is their last year to truly contend. Their window is super short and it's almost closed
>49ers
Literal hot garbage, do you watch the NFL?
>Seahawks
Win by one point against an NFC north team. Get bailed out of at least one playoff loss a year, first Green Bay, now Vikings have handed them free wins.
>Panthers
Meme team. With a meme QB.
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>>64872280
That defense would have shut the Packers and the Saints the fuck down. Neither the 2010 Packers nor 2009 Saints had great defenses to match them, so the Jets would have commanded the game. Very likely they win if they go to those SB those years.
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>>64869239
>now panthers
>losing to the falcons

please.
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