>>64836261 Losing a Bowl is better than not getting there. Getting real confused by this backwards ass mentality /sp/ has about Bowl appearances. Team that wins 1 and loses 2 is better than a team that only appeared once and won. However 2-0 is better than 1-2. If 2 teams have the same amount of owl wins the next best thing is appearances.
>>64836280 2nd place is better than every other team but the ones who won. The playoff system is to distinguish who the best teams are. If your team is oh so good why didn't they have a shot at the Owl? Because they're better for getting stomped sooner? Fucking lol dude. This rationalization will never cease to amaze me.
>>64836288 Maybe not, fans also wouldn't be vocal because everyone would just bring up that they never won. There's many factors behind it, but to tell me you'd rather your team get stomped with no playoff shot instead of getting an appearance is retarded mental gymnastics.
>>64836301 >Shit talking a team you couldn't even beat. Only team that can talk shit on the hawks are Pats fans. But let me guess, the Pats don't deserve to talk shit because they had to "cheat" to beat your bunk ass team?
>>64836315 >Be a browns fan >Get to shit talk any team that hasn't won an owl last year. /sp/ logic. And I'm a Steelers fan myself. Literally nothing matters outside of the post season dude. If a team goes 8-8, makes the post season, and wins the owl, those 8 teams can't shit talk.
>>64836353 >You have to be a fan of a team to defend them from people who are dumb enough to think they get to talk shit on play off teams while their teams are at home. I was also a fan of the Steelers ever since Tommy Maddox's faggot ass was losing games.
>>64836341 The original question is about going winless in SB appearances. Then you start talking about no playoff shot and then change it to going to 0-16. It would suck to go 0-16 or to miss the playoffs. It would probably be worse to go 0-3 or 0-4 like the Bills. That would be the biggest let down because you'd get all the way to the top only to lose.
>>64836372 I'd still say it's better to appear than not appear. Bills are better than any team that has made less appearances or haven't appeared at all. However any team with 1 win trumps them. That makes sense does it not?
>>64836378 Uh, yeah? That's how it works, you can't shit talk and get defensive the instant someone kicks your delusions out from under you. >Lmao your team sux ass lost owl >You didn't even make it into the playoffs >WOW DOOD THAT'S FUKED UP
>>64836432 Better to be the best loser than the worst one. At least super bowl losers still get remembered because they have to show the scores for both teams in the records. Rather than being completely forgotten. As an individual player making it into the Owl alone is pretty fucking awesome As a fan you should be glad your team conquered literally everyone else but 1.
>>64836459 So by your logic the browns are as good as any team that doesn't win the superbowl? If not explain in detail how that's not true without special stipulations. Because if you note past owls you're living in the past and if you note anything recent it doesn't count because either they cheated or they have a bad fanbase, or even better, the NFL rigged the game so your precious team didn't make it. Delusional.
Russell Wilson wouldn't have shit if it weren't for his great defense. He is an average quarterback with a great, dirt cheap team built around him. As soon as it's time to pay everyone, they'll be shit again.
>>64836533 >Literally eliminate every other team in your division to get to the owl. >They're on the same level as you. I'm glad I'll never be this ass backward. Even the Olympics has 2nd and 3rd place trophies.
>>64836544 First off, champ. You don't have to eliminate every team in your division to get to the superbowl. Shit, you could get swept by your division and still make it to the owl.
Second, nobody with a functional brain trains their entire lives to get silver or bronze. The object is to get gold and anything less is a failure, which should never be celebrated. Faggots like you is why participation ribbons exist.
>>64836581 >Implying getting swept matters when the team is 3-13 You're eliminated by default when you MISS THE POST SEASON. Are you clinically brain dead? How do rationalize every team being as bad as yours when you miss the playoffs? Just straight pride or retardation? Also >>64836573
>>64836629 In your division you're specifically competing with the other 3 teams until the post season. If you can't win as many games as the other teams in your division WHO ARE PLAYING THE EXACT SAME TEAMS and beat them twice, what difference doesn't make. Ravens don't deserve a playoff shot for beating the Steelers twice simply because they pissed their season away. Until the post season only 3 other teams matter, you are only directly competing with them until you get into the post season.
>>64836701 No but at that point you have to rely on other teams outside of the division to lose, which obviously isn't desirable. >>64836704 What was the record of the entire division that year anon? Because if you go 8-8 only winning division games and every other team is 12-4 you don't deserve a playoff shot over them.
>>64836532 >He is an average quarterback Passer Rating king of the league this year. Or are you a volume stats fag who likes Matthew "megatron babby" Stafford?
>with a great, dirt cheap team built around him. Only thing cheap are his little manlet receivers who lead the league in efficiency. Defense is paid, and runninbacks are all injured. Oops.
>As soon as it's time to pay everyone, they'll be shit again. Running out of people to have to pay. They just pulled a top-2 rookie RB out of last years draft (UDFA, get fukt Gurley/rest of league) and a top returner/receiver that's already AP/Probowl level (get fukt Cordarell Patterson/Tayvon Austin)
>>64836765 Still doesn't change the fact that winning your division is paramount to your season. Risking your post season on a team outside of your division playing a certain way isn't good you your health. Simply win more games than everyone in your division. No need to compete with the 13-0 patriots when your division is mostly 6-7
>>64836798 >Implying the only way to compete is be beating them specifically. If they can beat all the teams outside of the division and you lose to every team outside of the division, you're not better than they are. You can beat them yeah, but what's the point of putting you IN THE POST SEASON, WHERE YOU WILL NOT BE PLAYING IN YOUR DIVISION, WHEN YOU CAN'T HANDLE IT.
>>64836821 What is it with this mentality. All or nothing isn't the way to live your life, in many sports teams lose, you can't win every single fucking game, it's statistically impossible. >Inb4 b-but that one season with the dolphins. That's not every single game dude.
Unnecessary calls on us every call that was called on us was PURE BULLSHIT It was a Fucking Shit Fest Yes I am mad it was fucking stupid we were close we were close it was not fair and now we're losing it fucking team we could have had it all I keep telling myself the refs were just playing stupid but no it was a sad scene for SDfans
>>64836852 I don't know how you are but every time I lost a football game/wrestling match, it felt like a part of me died. It's probably the only reason I did as well as I ever did.
Second place was always a bitter sting, to get so close and fail hurt 1,000 times more than being bounced out of the playoffs/tournament early. I remember getting 2nd in states and stewing in anger when the class clapped for me over the school news in homeroom.
>>64836845 It's a pretty simple discussion desu senpai, if you don't like it just stick to ">us 12s" memes.
Wasn't picking on Stafford, Andy Luck got a lot of hype for the same shit. Lots of yards, lots of points, lots of picks, just enough wins to get out of his shit division and disappoint in the playoffs.
>>64836903 You had to have some sense of satisfaction getting that far from the start, I also hope you at least won some. As the team progresses and gets better and shifts into the number 1 team it's great. You don't become a dynasty overnight dude. >>64836917 >If I simplify everything I can be right Players get bonuses for making it to the post season because doing so looks better on the brand, winning is obviously the objective, but you can't win every time, you can't, you're not a special warrior of long times passed, you're in as much of a struggle as everyone else. Appearances alone are nice and getting that close allows you to push harder next time if you aren't a stupid sack of trash.
>>64837071 >Being this retarded. Sometimes good players are on bad teams. That's why you don't judge players based solely on how well their teams did. Barry Sanders is arguably one of the best RBs of all time but the Lions didn't do shit for the majority of his career. Does that also make him shit?
>>64837117 I'm guessing that's more of a "I lost the gold medal" than a "I won a silver medal" It's all about mentality man, there's always going to be someone better out there, that's why you practice and try again.
>>64837133 I can respect him for being a loyal player. But life is about doing what you can to win, he didn't. The winning move for Sanders was to get on a better team, he did not. His loyalty trumped his skill.
>>64837180 This sounds like the mentality of a team that doesn't make the playoffs. Because the only way you can even stomach talking about other teams is if they're all shit and bad unless they win the super bowl. The playoffs are specifically for the best teams in the NFL, getting there is a step above any team that didn't, as well as the subsequent rounds. Ignoring this makes me think whoever you root for is at the very fucking bottom so if they are everyone else is.
>>64837210 So your team is just as garbage as the browns if you don't win? That's pretty fucking harsh. I'm happy that my team is a playoff contender, because you have just as much of a chance as anyone else at the bowl if you're in the playoffs, because you only gotta beat each team once. I realize now that this mentality spread because obviously more teams don't make the playoffs than teams that do, so they have to rationalize losing somehow.
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