>And with the 2nd pick in the 2006 NFL Draft Pick, the New Orleans Saints select, Reggie Bush, running back from USC
>lost his starting job to a 30 something year old Deuce McAlister
>getting cucked by Kim K
>With the second pick in the 2015 nfl draft, the Tennessee Titans select Marcus Mariota
>and with the 22nd overall pick, the Cleveland Browns select, quarterback, Brady Quinn from Notre Dame
>and with the 22nd overall pick, the Cleveland Browns select, quarterback, Johnny Manziel from Las Vegas University
I still say the reason why he didn't declare for the draft in 2005 was because he didn't want to get drafted by the 49ers
And given the state of the franchise at that time (similar to what it is now), I can't blame him
>and we've just received a statement that Patrick Willis has decided to forfeit the rest of his contract and retire early
The guy started as an rb in the NFL for nine years. That couldn't be further from a bust. Did he live up to the hype? No, of course not. He went in with the hype of literally the greatest player to ever walk the field, there's no way he was going to meet that. He was a key pat of the Saints super bowl run and has put together some incredible performances. It's a shame he was so injury prone.
He was also one slip away from being the first to return three kicks for tds in a game.
Hey, in my defense this was before that stigma and Palmer was and is again pretty good.
I knew Sanchez would suck, thought Barkley would be a career backup at best, and I'd be shocked if Cody Kessley ever ends up on an NFL team.
If you're asking about people who follow the game, I knew he wouldn't justify the high draft pick.
I didn't know that he'd have as many injuries as he's had but I knew he wouldn't be durable. I saw him as a third down back: an undersized RB with OK receiving skills. However, his receiving skills were not good enough to make him a WR.
Thus, you have an undersized RB who cannot be an every down back because he's not big or strong enough. Why would any team draft this guy in the first round, a guy who might at best be on-field for 50% of the snaps?
2006 was just a lousy year. Vince Young was taken #3 (I didn't think he was any better than a second round pick and had suspicions that he was not an NFL-caliber QB), and Matt Leinart was taken #10 (I didn't think he was first round material, either.)
>yfw Cutler was the best QB in the draft that year
>hurr I knew he'd be bad
If you thought that then you were an idiot. Watch Bush at SC and tell me with a straight face that he wasn't one of the best college playmakers of all time.
>and we've just received word that your post has nothing to do with the previous post you fucking muppet
Every player drafted early in the NFL was a football god in college and very likely in high school. The trick is to know if these guys will be able still be good at the pro level.
I was not 100% certain that Bush would be crap in the NFL but if I were a gambling man, I most certainly would have bet that he would be a major disappointment.
By your statement, you thought both Vince Young and Matt Leinart would have kicked ass in the NFL. How about Brian Bosworth?
I'm not saying I have special, pro-caliber talent for scouting but for certain types of players, it's rather obvious.
Did you really think an small RB like Bush running roughshod against milk sops would be able to do the same in the pros?
As every rookie says, the thing that shocks them the most is how fast everybody is at the pro level. DEs can have speeds that approach that of the faster RBs in college. Even average DBs have much, much better closing speed than at the college level.
To be continue...
No, I cut JDB from my mind long ago. I plan on doing the same with Kessler.
I remember him pretty well actually. The only thing I remember about him in the pros was that he was #4 for the Vikings when he showed up for camp and when they signed Favre they made him change it.
VY had serious problems. I will admit, he was a better pro QB than I thought he would be. But his major problems were:
1. An almost impossibly low score on the Wonderlic. I think he scored a 6 or an 8. I believe that a person who just selects "B" for every single answer will score about 10 or 12. The NFL rule-of-thumb for QB Wonderlic scores is around 22. There are exceptions that do well despite crappy Wonderlic scores (Dan Marino scored 17, I think). However, a really dumb QB is highly likely to fail in the NFL.
2. VY was a baby. He played like crap in a home game, the fans booed, and then later that week there are rumors of him threatening to commit suicide because he got booed. VY had a weak mind. At the pro level, if your mind is that weak, the opposing teams will get inside your head and destroy your confidence. Jeff Fisher saw that VY was a baby and tried to get rid of him. Bud Adams, idiot that he is, loved VY and the rest is history: They all went down in flames. Fisher was fired, VY was cut, and Adams died. :)
I think the 2nd point is more important than the 1st imo, he retook the wonderlic I believe and while still scored low got a passable score,
the issue was that he didn't take it seriously the 1st time around.
Yes. They should have drafted Carr but I can understand their reluctance after what happened with David Carr. However, David Carr was destroyed by the Texans. He might not ever have been worth a #1 overall pick but he certainly was could have had a better career than he did had he not been thrown to the wolves.
I didn't know about Mack but I thought the Texans might have done well to trade down for more draft picks. They need a RB who can actually not get hurt, a WR to replace Andre Johnson, and a few gambles on QBs (maybe starting in the 2rd or 3rd round) in the hopes that one can actually be an answer.
lol how did he get tebow'd? he had every chance to prove to the titans and the league that he was a starting qb caliber kinda nigga, plus he hung around for a few years afterwords as a backup
But not taking it seriously resulted him in getting an expected score lower than random guessing? As I said, I could go in there, circle B for every question, be done in about one minute, and probably do better than VY.
I don't think they ever mentioned with VY's Wonderlic score was the second time he took it but I'd be surprised if he got above 20.
>Bridgewater and Carr x2 available
>this actually happened
>with your first face when da bears win da superb owl, you pick this one
he was a monster when he was at USC. Pete Carroll was the coach and ran a pretty advanced offense, not usual the usual simple or meme offenses in college ball. Bush showed huge potential
he wasnt even terrible, he has been a decent player, just not worthy of a #2 pick. its not like drafting RGknee so he can sit injured
The problem was how overhyped he was.
>NEXT BARRY SANDERS
Naturally when he only turned out to be decent, everyone called him a bust.
>everyone on that USC offense was a meme
Larry Brown, Dallas Cowboys. Super Bowl XXX MVP.
Timmy Smith, Washington Redskin.
The Saints could have done a better job in the draft than picking Bush. Granted, he wasn't a JaMarcus mega-bust but for such a high pick, his production has been quite disappointing.
>win team's first ever owl, with player playing a major role in it
You realize that's literally the opposite of a busted pick? Even if that one year was the only year he ever gained a yard, that would be worth it.