>ran back to his old team when he realized his current team was old and shit and his old team had young, better talent (Kyrie, Wiggins, Thompson, and Love)
He has my respect because he did get to 5 straight Finals...BUT he wasn't THE GUY for any of those 2 rings, and when he was playing like THE GUY, he fucking lost (i.e. getting smacked by the Spurs when he was in Cleveland, getting smacked by the Warriors).
He's still a ring-chasing, cherry picking, dick sucking faggot.
>he didn't know he had Love when he made the switch
The only reason he even made the switch back to Cleveland was because that entire season they had confirmed Love was leaving + playing with Kyrie. Love literally said he would agree to an extension if LeBron came.
>>64832270 >calls himself a king >has a tattoo that says "chosen one" >"the decision" >left his hometown team to team up with a bunch of all-stars, ends up getting blown out in one of the most beta performances in Final's history >became the poster-boy for flopping, had the nerve to deny he ever did it >complains to refs after every call or missed call, often stays arguing with the ref while the rest of his team is getting back on defense >had to be bailed out by ray "benedict arnold" allen to win his 2nd ring >said he should be on the NBA mount rushmore >complained when he didn't get any DPOY votes, despite playing average defense that year >"the decision 2.0" >still teaming up with all-stars >still goes on to get blown out again but probably the most annoying thing about lebron is how often he acts like he's the greatest thing to ever walk the earth, despite having a history of underperforming/being anti-clutch. he's arguably the most unlikeable modern sports star
LeBron haters literally hate him because they cannot be him. The only thing he's ever done close to being bad was the decision, which was ages ago and a lot of people already let go. Anyone bringing that shit up need to grow the fuck up already.
There are legitimate reasons to dislike him. I don't disagree that a lot of it is simply jealousy or "hating," which is common for superstars, but I've always approached him from a pretty unbiased perspective and I've tried to like him. I simply can't bring myself to.
Dudes definitely a beast but he gets by simply on size and athleticism. His game really hasn't evolved beyond pushing his way into the lane and either drawing a pussy foul or simply overpowering a defender. His footwork is pathetic and oftentimes he looks completely out of control when driving to the basket. He's never really improved his shooting.
Also he's pretty much the opposite of clutch. He's proven time and time again that he doesn't want the ball in the last possession. These are necessary traits to be considered GOAT.
Kobe is a lot of things but he would never pass the ball in the clutch and that alone makes him better than LeBron. And for the record I don't even like Kobe.
>>64832270 >It probably has a lot to do with how he gives up when he realizes he's team isn't going to win. He is a far better human being than Jordan or Kobe, but they are far more driven than he is to win.
>>64833907 I realize that sounded dumb and simplistic.
Kobe never passed the ball and that's always been one of his biggest negatives. Jordan and LeBron make everyone around them better. Jordan sometimes did it himself in isolation ("The Last Shot" 98 Finals vs. Utah) sometimes he made a great pass (Pass to Kerr for game winner in 97 Finals).
But LeBron almost always looks nervous in those situations. He truly looks like he doesn't want the ball in his hands.
Kobe always wants the ball in his hands in the clutch and he has that killer instinct that Jordan had. Kobe won't always make that shot, and oftentimes he'll selfishly miss somebody that's wide open. But he won't settle for putting it in somebody else's hands. And it's that killer instinct that Kobe and Jordan had that LeBron is lacking.
9 seconds left on the clock, down by 2, who would you rather have with the ball in his hands, Kobe or LeBron?
>>64835593 He could have been the GOAT if he didn't give up so much. There are so many times when he just gives up. If he was as driven as someone like Kobe or Jordan then he would have been the GOAT no questions asked.
>>64832270 Well when you watch him take your team to four finals in a row and then just bounce in such a faggot manner and act like he's gods gift then get BTFO by a light skin. He's a Fucking prick. Wade and Bosh are king.
>>64833369 >they cannot be him Wouldn't a hater rather be Jordan, Kobe, Duncan, Kareem, Magic, Bird, Russell, shit Parker, Manu, Steph (less rings, better looking wife), anybody but the most hated and scrutinized player in the league today? If it's jealousy wouldn't they dislike the players that have more rings or more money than Lebron as well?
>>64837298 Six time assist leader, more rebounds per game than Lebron while playing as a guard, more assist per game as well. So who did everything better besides put up more points than Lebron (25 per game vs 27 per game) but he's not the GOAT because he only won a single championship.
>>64837361 You're comparing two different players who played in two different eras. Oscar Robertson was agruably the best guard of the 1960s. The problem is that the NBA of the 1960s was vastly different from the NBA of today. In 1960 there were only 8 teams in the whole league. By 1970, there were only 14 teams in the NBA. If you compare that to 2003 when LeBron entered the NBA there were 29 teams. The Big O was a great player but he only won the MVP once and he won a championship because he was lucky to have played on the same Bucks team as Kareem. LeBron James on the other hand won the MVP 4 times and won the Finals MVP twice. He basically willed the Cavs to the finals twice.
Hell, making the playoffs in the 1960s was also a lot easier. For the majority of the 1960s, every team but two would make the playoffs each year. It's hard to fault him for losing to those stacked Celtics teams but we usually judge greatness a lot on how well teams performed in the playoffs. If Jordan hadn't been a part of those 6 Bulls Championships, he wouldn't be in consideration for GOAT. That's the same for LeBron, he's known for the majority of his career that he's the best player on the court, and he has often guided his teams to success in the playoffs. The Big O was a great talent but he couldn't get it done when it counted in the playoffs. That being said, it's incredible difficult to compare players from different eras because who knows how LeBron would have fared if he played in the 60's and early 70's.He also have no idea how the Big O would fare in the modern game.
>>64838129 Less talent dilution in the 1960s and 1970s, only the top players in the country could secure a spot on a roster at that point in time. Oscar Robertson contended against teams stacked with Hall of Famers in the playoffs, Lebron James plays in the modern day Eastern conference.
It's no contest, Oscar Robertson is a better all around player than Lebron.
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