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Why are kickers so fucking useless? They have one job and it's

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Why are kickers so fucking useless?

They have one job and it's almost half the time they fail at it. I think a lot of teams could save money just having the QB kick.

Pic related, he should kill himself.
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>only player to score for his team the entire game
>misses one of four field goals
>Adrian Peterson fumbles a half dozen times
>he dindu nuffin he a good boy
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>>64831595
It was a fucking chip shot. Stop making excuses faggot.
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>>64831580
maybe get a quarterback who can throw the ball further then 10 yards next time
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>>64831619
>fumbles
>he was getting his life back on track!
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Maybe kicking an egg shaped bit of leather 30 to 50 yards through a metal fork while 11 roid raging feral negroes try to tear your limbs off is trickier than it sounds?
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>>64831619
THE LACES WERE IN.
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>>64831652
I did it all the time in HS. I only missed one shot. That was in the wind and 40 yards out, even then it barely missed.
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>>64831652
Stop making sense faggot
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Damn it sucks to be a kicker

Gets a "Good job" if he makes it
Public enemy no.1 if he misses
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>>64831666
>i am much better at sport than pro athletes

Vive le internet
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>Teddy Bridgewater: 0 points
>Adrian Peterson: 0 points
>Blair Walsh: 9 points

Maybe the blame should be spread around some.
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>>64831652
you might be on to something....
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>>64831580

hauschka has bailed the seahawks a lot so I respect good kickers. He has been a bit off this year for some reason however
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ours is just fine
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>>64831666
You should play in the NFL bruh
>inb4 studying to be an engineer
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>>64831688
Or you can be like Vinatieri and Gostkowski and make virtually all of your fucking kicks, be respected and not be useless choking faggots.
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>>64831666
You do know high school goalposts are almost twice as wide, and you were most likely facing 10 skinny white kids and 1 big nignog as opposed two 11 roided gorillas. And highly unlikely it was also -20 degrees.
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>kickers are paid to literally make field goals that's their only job

>but it's ok that the quarterback can't throw further than 15 yards down the field, or lead a drive down field resulting in a touchdown for 60 minutes
>also, I don't mind that the running back fumbles the ball away every time her touches it and can't run it for more than 2.5 yards a carry
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>>64831742
>as opposed two
>two

go ahead fucc my shit up fampai
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If Blair Walsh would have missed his third kick instead of his last kick making the final drive 6-10, Do you think Bridgewater would have be able to score a TD to win?
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Gotta be a paid throw.
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When will kickers be removed from the game entirely? Can't they have the head coaches go out to midfield and play some rock-paper-scissors instead of having a comparatively inathletic manlet ruing games for the rest of the team?
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>>64831817
Sup Skip
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>>64831768
Not OP, and yeah there's blame to go around, but missing a 27 yard FG to win the game is inexcusable, regardless of how many FG he previously made.
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>>64831792
Fuck no
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>>64831817
I think they should just get 7 points automatically but keep kickers for field goals.
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>>64831652
I laughed so hard I shit the Queen
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>>64831619
In the cold. That ball is hard as a fucking rock
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>>64831580
This will make you feel better man:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pIqwhtINqw

I have it qued in advance for when peyton chokes again.
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>>64831833
All I'm saying is that Walsh deserves the least amount of blame, compared with Bridgewater and Peterson
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>>64831833
It was a defensive game. Even with his kick the game would have to be won by the defense in the last 20 some seconds.

It's all on Walsh.
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One of my favorite players from another team was a kicker.

I just love that guy.
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>>64831871
>defensive game

lol
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we cant all be remembered as the GOAT
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>>64831887
Both D's played amazing. What am I missing?
Yes I'm mad, I'm a vikings fan.
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>thinking kicking is so easy
>have nig as a QB and an all pro RB who choked all game long
>blame the kicker when 3 points shouldn't have been necessary
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>>64831666
Sure you did buddy, and I'm sure you were just drowning in puss
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>>64831908
fixed that for you
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>>64831918
>nig as a QB
Fuck you.
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>>64831580
If you can kick a field goal farther than 30 yards I'd be amazed. And no, you don't get a 5 step run up either.
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>>64831865
Disagreed.

Bridgewater and Peterson got him to a spot that was a near gimmie to win the game.

If you're paid six or seven figures to kick a football, you should make all FGs inside 30 yards at least.

Blame goes like this:
1. Walsh
2. Peterson
3. Bridgewater
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>>64831908
He made them when they counted the most. No other kicker hits those FGs against the Raiders. Not to mention him carrying Peyton in 2006.
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>>64831944
This logic is so fucking dumb, you think he decided to just miss that one? What he gets paid to kick has no fuck bearing on it, you're acting like he's a teacher who just doesn't show up to class or some shit
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>>64831666
>hs kickers

nigga our kicker was our black as the night starting rb who wanted to try it for fun, and he made all of them
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>>64831944
Actually... the refs got us in that spot...
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>One of the coldest games in NFL history
>Seattle choosing to go for it on fourth because of how hard it is to kick the ball in those conditions
>Walsh bails his shitty qb and Rushing Leader RB out by kicking three field goals
>misses one
>he was useless

Useless is an offense that can't score one touchdown in eight quarters against a team. Don't blame Walsh for the Vikings playing like shit. Adrian "NFL's Leading Rusher" Peterson had 45 yards on 23 carries.
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I don't think the whole "laces in" thing was the problem, just look at how crocked the ball is placed.
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>>64831935
>>64831709
I was one of the best kickers in the state. However, because I was only 5'9 no college would take me. They took the athletic QB's and turned them into QB's in college which is stupid as fuck. I was still a lot better than most college kickers.
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Honestly special memes should just be removed from the game. They're cheap gimmicky bullshit that takes away from the actual athletes
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>>64831992
does a holder normally wear gloves?
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>>64831969
>you think he decided to just miss that one?
No shit that he didn't.

But you're a professional athlete, you need to make easy, game winning shit like this.

You think an engineer can build a bridge that collapse and be like "well I tried my best!"
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>>64831944
Peterson had two hands on that ball, it was a good strip.
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>>64831937
>cuckboys
>super bowl
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>>64831992
this holy shit.
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>>64831792
>Bridgewater
>game-winning drive

pick one
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>>64831996
>athletic QB's and turned them into QB's in college

turned them into kickers*
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>>64831996
I think turning athletic QBs into Qbs is probably a pretty good idea tbqh
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didn't the vikings bring in walsh as a replacement because their kicker was that vocal pro-gay wow-playing dude who kept embarrassing them?
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>>64832014
it just wasnt in God's plans my friend.

"The LORD gave and the LORD has taken away. Blessed be the name of the LORD."
Job 1:21
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>>64831992
That's what ive been saying, he kicked it once with laces in and that was lucky, but laces in and a crooked ball? Had a better chance going in just laying on the ground
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>>64832014
It's not even remotely similar
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>>64831851
Inside the 35 you can end the drive voluntarily for 2 points. Inside the 15 for 3 points
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>>64832056
that guy was a punter
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>>64831580
Laces IN!
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>>64832080
>football
>take the kicker out of the game

lel
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>>64831996
>Average NFL kicker is 5'10
>Colleges pass over you because you're 1 (one) inch shorter than NFL average

Sure bud, whatever you say
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>>64832125
We can rename it hand egg as to not trigger your autism
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>>64831996
No, you're just a terrible athlete, but I guess you need to delude yourself to think otherwise to sleep at night, huh?
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a high schooler can kick a 25 yarder

jesus fuck you're getting paid millions a year and you cant hit 25 yard fgs? how the fuck are you on an nfl roster?
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>>64832139
I was also 149 pounds. Scouts said I was just too small for any Div football. They said it didn't matter how hard I could kick.
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>>64831996
>in the state.

what state
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>>64832176
Just stop, family, nobody is buying into your bullshit
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>>64832187
Florida. I met with a lot of Southern schools scouts.
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>>64832080
To add on:

Punts are now 50 yards from the current line of scrimmage, but can't go past the 10.

After scores, the ball is placed at the 20. If you elect to try to keep the ball (ie onside kick) you have the ball at your 20 and it's now 4th&15.
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>>64831992

Nope. Holder was doing his job.

>Locke has the ball down with the laces facing back. Many people have suggested that this was a poor hold because of the fact it was angled toward Locke. However, most kickers prefer a ball tilted slightly away from them as they kick, as it creates a rounder and smoother surface for them to strike, as well as correcting for the tendency of a ball placed straight down to hook. The angle used here is appropriate and typical for an NFL kicker, and in no way caused any of the problems on this kick.

http://insidethepylon.com/film-study/film-study-nfl/special-teams-film-study-nfl/2016/01/10/explaining-blair-walsh-missed-field-goal/
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I was 6' 200 pounds and they said that I was too dark to be a kicker
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>>64832176
>Kicker
>Scouts don't care about your kicking ability
>They care about how small you were, even though all kickers are small

Do people even think about their lies before posting on 4chan?
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>having a 75% fg percentage
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>>64832216
Punts are a good part of the game
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>>64832251
>I like memes
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>>64832216
I can't even tell if this is a spoof
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>>64831996
>manlet telling anyone they should kill themselves
Oh the ironing
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>>64831580
It's funny you mention that because most players can kick, even Brady can.
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Speak for yourself, ohpee. Dan can score with his eyes closed.

...Too bad he was the only one scoring this season. ;-;
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>>64832176
I know its a little different but I met UT's punter at the gym. Although he was like 6'3, he was doing squats on the smith machine. I expected him to know better with an elite training staff...
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>>64831666
What d1 college did you go to?
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>>64832176
>too small for any Div football

bruh have you seen how small D3 and a lot of D2 players are? Every year there are a couple kids who are like 170 going to P5 programs anyways, and that's not even at kicker.
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>>64832176
fat ass
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>>64832301
this desu. Odell is an elite kicker
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>>64831703
THE BOZ
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>>64832304

Dome babby trash
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>>64832197
Lmao all the scouts in Florida and you're trying to tell us you didn't get recruited because you are 5'9. Fuck outta here
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>>64832176
Cairo Santos is 160.
You would reach that if you worked out like a pro.
He is Brazilian and managed to make to the league.
M8,you just suck
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>>64832467
Or that he at least couldn't walk on to shit like USF or FAU. That's some bullshit
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>>64831652
For the common man, sure. When your entire livelihood is based on your ability to do that and only that, when it's literally your only professional responsibility and your only duty on the field: nope.

But what the fuck would you know, britbong?
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>>64831580
>half the time they fail at it
this isn't even banter, it's just shitposting
Maybe you only remember the one's they miss, but kickers make far more than half of the kicks in the NFL.
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>>64831817
>inathletic

Let's not take this retard's advice
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>>64831944
Refball got you to that spot when they called a PI on Kam Chancellor for Rudolph running into him on purpose
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>>64832224
The comment was about laces in and you post about the angle. Come on, and least TRY
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>>64831580
honestly surprised college teams havent started just looking for kids who can play a position and kick
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https://www.instagram.com/p/BAYlUORIC_k/

Hopefully this cocksucker is found dead tomorrow. Useless pathetic excuse for a human
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>>64831580

He scored all of their points today. maybe if the vikings offense didn't completely suck at everything they might have won
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>>64831652
kek
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>>64831703
>yfw no more scooby shanking the ball
every time we had to kick with him i got closer to an aneurysm
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>>64831619
In the conditions he played in with a hold that shitty it would have taken a fucking miracle for that ball to go through the uprights.
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>>64833022

>That low trajectory that would easily be rejected by 6'6" defensive linemen
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>>64831580
Why_cant_I_hold_all_these_big_mom_jeans.png

LGTTS
>Burger fashion
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>>64833022
>That Favre jersey
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If anyone is to blame, blame Bridgewater and AP, mainly Bridgewater.

The Vikings should have blown out the Seahawks by 20 points, but he couldn't make the plays needed.
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Because football rules are fucking retarded. A sport about fighting inch by inch tooth and nail often comes to down to some euro faggot finesse player. Not kickers fault, football just has retarded rules
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>>64831619

There's no such thing as a "sure thing" in football. Kicks get blocked, holders fuck up where the laces are, it happens.

I'm a Vikings fan and still salty, but it's just the truth.
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https://twitter.com/barstoolsports/status/686323173353197568

https://twitter.com/ktred1996/status/686296922940813312

https://twitter.com/DariusStorm/status/686310173409984512

https://twitter.com/Brendan_Baker9/status/686295924935647232
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>>64834184
>that fourth fag still has his fucking christmas tree up

lmfao, upper middle class fags are so fucking lazy.
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>>64834062

This.

That video proves nothing.

>ooh I can kick a ball with no crowd or defense to block it with no pressure

Big fucking deal.
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>>64831580
>OP literally couldn't have a conversation with another female if handed a script written by Whitman

You know nothing about pressure, anon. Just don't even bother trying to comprehend doing something of any sort of significance.
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>>64834166
Kicking is a part of the game. Deal with it canacuck.
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>>64834166
The whole concept behind the field goal is to reward the team for gaining field position into the opposition's territory. It really isn't about the kicker. It's about what the regular offense was able to accomplish on their lsrt series.
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>>64834234
>rational argument
>counters with "its part of the game"

American education everyone
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>>64834366
>want to change rules because of muh feelings

Trudeau voter right here everyone
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>>64834394
lol
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>>64834404
TWENTY
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>>64831580
>Pic related

He got the call from NFL Headquarters...
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>>64834394
Dicktucking the argument and calling me the cuck. Brah I love America, stick to the topic. Unless youre sheerly retarded, then I will just move on.
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>>64834510
Move on then Pierre, I'm not making you stay.
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>>64834366
>rational argument

ffs canada, will you guys ever learn? I keep pulling for you guys but sometimes I wonder if it's all for naught. get your shit together
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>>64831580
LACES OUT
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>>64834853
lel are you secretly a woman?
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>>64831652
Just laughed my ass on this jfk--->sjc redeye. Face me enough confidence to claim both armrests. Thanks fampai.
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>>64831666
>he was a kicker
>he didnt actually play football

THESE are the type of faggots that try to talk about football on here? hahaha
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>>64831580
He went to my high school and we played soccer together. Kind of an arrogant douche. I lol'd when he choked.
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>>64834275
exactly. closer to goal line = better percentage of making kick. that's your reward for getting close to your opponent's goal line but not across it
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>>64831941
I can go kick 20 27-yarders in a row right now.
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>>64832197
Kek.

this guy.
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>>64837960
It has to go over the linemen. You get a two step run up. You have to have someone take a snap and set the ball as you run up. It has to be below 0 degrees.
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>>64831996
>average kicker in the NFL is 5'10
>average kicker in college football floats around 5'8
>I was one of the best kickers in the state but no college team would take me because I was the average height for my position
Why lie on the internet?
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How comes a soccer player can do this, while running around the pitch and doing all sorts of things for 90 minutes (and with a GK trying to deflect the shot), but a NFL """""Kicker""""" can't fucking kick the ball straight up from about the same distance (if not less), through goalposts the size of a fucking stadium?

And that's the only fucking thing he trains for all day too.
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>>64838109
Nice stats
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>>64838208
Kickers are reject soccer players. Sergio Ramos, a Spanish soccer player, made a 40 yarder on his first try
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>>64838208
Do forwards score 100% of the shots they take?
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>>64838240

No but Free Kick specialists may score up to 80% of the FK's they take and that's with ball placement varying around the field a lot (not just distance) and a GK actively trying to get in the way and a goal way smaller.

The Vikings dude just cracked under pressure and that's it.
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>>64838255

Just to clarify, I fucking despise soccer but kickers in the NFL are just meme tier, they should hire actual soccer players from europe/south america instead.
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>>64831580
>48 years old
>still borrowing your dads pants for work
>the city of NFL cameraman
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>>64838273
nfl kickers should be rugbo players, you get a decent kicker but also a guy who can tackle and take a hit
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>>64832463

he was 13/15 outdoors this year, that would put him at top 12 in the league alone.
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>>64832224
>most kickers prefer a ball tilted slightly away from them
They do this is rugby too from penalty goals and it makes little sense to me. If you actually tilt it towards you, you hit the big sweetspot of the ball and have more control rather than having to slice it.
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>>64838255
Freekick 'specialists' do not score 80% of the shots they take. Not even people like Riquelme or Roberto Carlos were that proficient. Do not lie, m8.
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Sportscentre is saying that Sherman played a factor in Walsh's miss. Sherman came within inches of blocking the first field goal. Walsh was probably aware of that as he attempted the final one so he kicked to to his left to ensure that Sherman - which he came close blocking - wouldn't be able to block it.
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>>64838324
>Riquelme
>Free kick specialist
Fucking lol
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>>64831996
Die manlet
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>>64838324

>Who are Pirlo and Juninho.

Go be a non-white elsewhere, Rodrigo.
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>>64838331
>>>/r/shitsportscentresays
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>>64831580
what's your point he has one job? every player on the field has one job if we get down to it.
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>>64838255
free kick takers dont have to kick the ball within a few seconds or get their leg broken by 11 mulignan
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>>64838355
>Pirlo
>Juninho
>80% conversion rate on freekicks
>>64838333
>freezelme
Not a free kick specialist
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>>64838420

>meme leagues

>meme players

sorry if neither of us watches flyover states meme leagues, bro.
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>>64833825
Honestly this.
They couldn't score a touchdown. How many playoff games you expect to win w/o scoring a touchdown?
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>>64831792
this desu.

Walsh's kicks were 22, 43 47 and 27 yarders, which means the Vikings offense only managed drives which got to the seattle 5, 27, 30 and 10 yard lines.

But it's all Walsh's fault.
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>>64831996
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>>64831580
>the QB kick.
George Blanda was the goat QB kicker.
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>>64831996
kek kickers are all manlets
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>>64832010
>task requires great dexterity
>don't take the gloves of for 2 minutes

asking for it
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>>64831661
He normally kicks when them in. He even hit the 47 yarder with them in.

>>64831595
>>64831622
>>64831768
Now I am not saying Teddy Two-Gloves is Tommy Terrific, but how is it that when Tom Brady gets his team into field goal position for the game winning kick, he is praised and everyone cums in their own mouths over how GOAT he is, but when Teddy does the same thing, he gets shit on all over the block? He's a 2nd year QB who made playoffs who's coaches playcalling is very clearly pigeon-holding him. Look at the play calls during the last drive. No deep routes, all stop routes on the corners (which seattle was susceptible to) but as soon as Walsh shanks the kick, its hurr durr Teddy sucks.

He's certainly not elite or even good but he definitely isn't bad/the reason they lost. You can thank AD, Walsh, and the conservative playcalling for that.
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>>64831666
blair walsh did the same thing in high school and college
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>>64832176
Youre just not good enough
>implying you had scouts talk to you
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>>64831721
>make virtually all
No. Virtually all isn't enough. One missed crucial kick and you're the heel of the town.
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>>64832176
Rudy wouldn't have let that shit fly.
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>>64831992
The hold isn't all that terrible by the time Walsh gets to it. The real problem was the severe angle on Walsh's left leg - when he plants that left foot on the ground he lands on the side of his shoe and practically rolls his ankle. Pic related but watch the video and pay attention to his left foot. He just completely fucked it up.
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>>64831652

well done britbong
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webm pls
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>tfw chiefs have Santos

Feels good phamilie
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>>64831580
How many points did your kicker score? 9

How many did the rest of the team score? 0

Your kicker might be your best player and I'm not exaggerating.
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Kansas City shall win Superb Owl and mainly because of Cairo Santos
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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