>>64825702 Idk about where you live but rinks where I live are fairly common and to rent a pair of skates is cheap. Though I do live in one of the "richer" states.
To buy all of the equipment is definitely expensive though. And most hockey leagues pass the pricetag onto the parents as opposed to providing the gear like say...american football leagues do.
There is also the cultural issues. Black people culturally are encouraged to play Basketball or Football. Their communities are already swarmed with scouts/encouragement/fans from those leagues so they have no real reason to try to break into a new sport where they have basically no support or incentive.
Though I still maintain based on the evidence we do have, there is nothing that says black people would make good hockey players anyway. Usually they exit the league as "average" and are forgotten about fairly quickly.
Of course the media has to overrate them while they are still playing, its racist to say a black guy isn't that good. Because CURRENT YEAR!
>>64825248 It's inaccessible to poorfags, and people who don't live in cold areas. Ir requires very specific equipment and costs a fuckton of money.
That being said, I find it completely inaccessible. I think there is a cultural component that exists in hockey that you have to be a part of or else you're not going to get it I think this exists in NASCAR fandom too.
>>64825248 Just widen the goal about ten meters at each side. Players get two points if they hit the keeper head before the puck or the ball goes in. If there is a draw forget penalties and have both team captains hold the ball in their sticks avoiding it to fall to decide who takes the game. The rest of the team will do silly faces to the opposing captain to make him lose focus. Also add multiball
>>64826061 We have a fucking minor league team that averages 9k a game. San Diego is a hockey town who had their team stolen 8 years ago. With no more chorgers season ticket fags people will be able to go to even more games
As much as everyone hates him, the league has grown under Bettman.
The niche and price aspect is why it isn't as popular amongst casual sports fans, or in less financially stable areas of the country.
It has better live attendance than the NBA as it is.
The NHL is going to stay niche for the foreseeable future but is steadily growing in revenue. It will remain that way for a long while but it isn't becoming marginalized like MLB. They will likely expand in the coming years as well.
>>64826623 tfw no more Cozy long beach ice dogs, Fresno Falcons games. I think the team collapsed the last time because teams had to pay for player housing in the ECHL and rent in San Diego was more expensive than Bakersfield and shit >>64826715 the stadiums are not always packed because there are 80 games a year so people have more choice in picking which specific game they want to go see
The first thing it needs to do is not cost a fuckton of money to play if you don't live somewhere where it snows for 4 months out of the year. Thankfully, that will never happen, so Upper-Class White Northerner Puck will never become a respected sport in America.
>>64832308 I actually found it to be an issue my first game or two because it moves quickly. But now it's only hard to follow when it's in the air. Still lose it for a split second or two and need a quick scan but that is mostly when guys are piling upon each other.
>>64826002 This, they had their chance in the mid to late 90's. NHL was almost as popular as basketball and had a growing casual fan base. The NHL spent all the added loot on expansion, in turn watering down their own product instead of using the new money to market the game to more people. They could have secured more TV games, advertising, made an effort to unify the minor league teams in the smaller markets and building rinks and buying youth equipment to make the next generation interested. They took the easy road.
>>64832415 The problem started the moment the Devils won the cup by trapping. The current "parity" is just a function of how much luck is required to score a goal right now. If the league fixed the rules so that more talented players could exploit the weaknesses of less talented players it would be more successful.
>>64832576 Yay, 1 goal real goal per game, maybe 3 flukey goals that bounce off a skate, a stick and a player's ass before going in. There's point in watching games right now unless you cheer for Washington or Dallas.
>>64832474 I actually think that the minor league is the best place to start they need to take the more popular AHL teams and merge it with the popular ECHL teams and make one league, with one team affiliate per NHL team. They should market it as NHL minor league. Only about half of the teams in both leagues have good followings. Baseball had the same issues for a long time until they stepped in. The teams in those two leagues that are popular are actually very profitable compared to the bottom half.
>>64825248 It can't and won't, stop trying. Base, basket, and foot ball all have the advantage of virtually no equipment costs. All you need is the ball, and in baseballs case a bat, and some sort of field or hell for 90% of Americans your front or back yard and your good to go. This allows virtually all kids to be able to grow up playing it and all schools to offer it for gym and recess. This make these sports relateable for the average how that hockey will never be able to achieve. For. Hockey you need the puck, stick, ice skates and most importantly for 90% of America a specially designed and designated place to play.
>>64832698 >>64832732 Cable is dying. They need to get ahead of the curve. Kill their proprietary streaming and get on a mainstream service next to stuff that brings people in. Let people choose their camera angles and audio options instead of a one size fits all options. There's nothing I hate more than those stupid camera angle changes that exist to justify some TV guy's salary.
>>64832865 They are still locked into their NBC deal until 2021 so they can't just jump ship. They also still need someone to do the production. The tricky part would be convincing the existing cable partners to go along with it. The NHL is so fucking greedy that they would refuse to take a loss to gain a strategic advantage. It doesn't help that the richest franchise is owned by telecoms and the Canada national TV deal isn't evenly split between all 30 teams.
>>64832800 Yeah cable is dying, nobody watches ESPN anymore. Cable took a hit when the housing market crashed, presumably because people had no money, no place to live or moved back in with parents. Cable is bigger than ever now, especially with prices down a bit. I hear nobody gets cable for the NFL ticket......topkek
>>64833381 Theres been maybe 5-6 games that have gone scoreless into overtime out of the 100s played so far this year. People bitching about not enough scoring are the ones that aren't a fan of the sport anyway and higher goal totals would do very little in terms of helping popularity. It probably help if people can watch a game on primetime NBC or something instead of needing cable package deluxe 4900 to have nbcsn.
>>64833736 NHL has always had a fucked up business sense. Like in the 60s they didn't want to put the games on TV because that would generate more money and therefore they'd have to pay the players more.
How about stop trying to appeal to the average American and appreciate Herkey as the regional delight that it is? Fuck "growing the game." I don't see how more money and popularity involved somehow improves the sport.
At the very least, a more modest professional system(s) would give you cheaper admission prices. A more popular game means higher prices. Hopefully you'd also see teams in smaller, but more devout markets. Potentially, the US and Canada end up developing separate leagues*. They would both have fewer resources than the NHL, and would be unable to dominate the global game, so you'd see lots more legitimate international competition like there is in Soccer or Rugby.
*some people might interject that an independent Canadian league could never exist, and maybe that's true, but this is underestimating just how insignificant of a profile hockey would have in most of the US if the NHL collapsed. A good comparison would be how the Swiss league is stronger than the German league despite Switzerland being a market 1/10th the size of Germany.
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