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/nfl/ General: Playoff hype Edition

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FUCK DA CLOTS sub-edition

CAR:Panthers lead way with six All-Pro selections
SD:Chargers ink Mike McCoy to one-year extension
PIT:Steelers rule out DeAngelo Williams (foot)
CIN:Andy Dalton (thumb) officially ruled out
ATL:Falcons will retain GM Thomas Dimitroff
FA:Report: Chip has interviewed with the 49ers
FA:Report: Jon Gruden interested in Eagles job
FA:Favre, T.O. lead Hall-of-Fame semifinalists
IND:Colts retain 'Chud' as offensive coordinator
BAL:Report: Two franchises 'covet' John Harbaugh
CHI:Dolphins in the lead for Bears OC Adam Gase?
BAL:Terrell Suggs (Achilles') returning for 2016
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First for based SP staying
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Sneak if you post something negative about the packers itt so help me god...
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new thread
>>64748882
>>64748882
>>64748882
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>>64755659
>FA:Report: Jon Gruden interested in Eagles job
get your shit together rotoworld
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Guys I'm scared.
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Patriots Playoff hype video: http://youtu.be/CqDKvc2YHW0
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summoning ritual for snow wen
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>>64755759
But the Bengals are the bomb
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>>64755759
At least with McCarron you have a shot. With Andy you know what you get.
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>>64755796
>I call Sam Bradford The Deputy
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Will the Eagles draft a QB and re-sign Bradford as a stopgap for him to play behind for 1-3 years?
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>day 5 since playoff elimination: Jim Irsay still hasn't fatally overdosed
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>the Texans actually took clowney over Mack
THE ABSOLUTE MADMEN
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>>64755879
I hate the draft
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>>64755657
WR is a top 3 need for the Falcons right now.
Roddy is done, he's dropping everything now. Hankerson was released because he has the dropsies. Hardy shows promise but he's a slot receiver.

The Falcons need either a dominant TE, or a true WR2. When the Falcons were at their best, they had two dominant WRs.

>Other needs: OLB, C, DE, DT
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>>64755856
more likely that they draft a QB and let Sanchez play, since he's already under contract
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>>64755895
>When the Falcons were at their best, they had two dominant WRs.
Ignoring Tony G? Shame on you, time to FUTA.
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>>64755897
forgot that contract was multi-year

idk how future prospects look but I wouldn't mind if they went WR/OL this year and waited a couple for a QB, while re-signing Bradford
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If not Gruden or Payton I'm okay with Gase desu senpai
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>>64755879
>the rams took greg robinson over literally every other player in the historically great 2014 draft
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>>64755879
>The Browns traded back instead of drafting the next GOAT

>The Bills took Sammy Watkins instead of the next GOAT

>The texans drafted a hawiian guard instead of Carr in the 2nd

>The Vikings drafted the trendy meme QB instead of Carr

>The Browns took Manziel instead of Based Carr
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>>64755936
he looks like a good offensive mind and he's not socially retarded, so yeah he seems as good a candidate as there is. Ofc like the draft it's mostly a dice roll
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how does the draft work? does an entire team disband and they pick all the players with a draft? can players in teams choose to stay or transfer?
who gets forced in to the draft system or is it only "graduating" college players that go in the draft and the rest is done with trades and contracts?
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>>64755856
bradford will want (and probably get) a competitive starting qb contract

I just hope it's not from the eagles
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>>64756002
non senior college players can declare, idk the exact rules though. No one is forced into the draft, you have the delcare for it AFAIK
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>>64755962
sammy watkins is pretty good though
he's not ODB, but he's a top 5 WR from that draft, and that's saying something considering it's the most stacked WR draft of all time
>>64756002
>or is it only "graduating" college players that go in the draft and the rest is done with trades and contracts?
it's this, why would it be the other thing? that sounds retarded
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>>64756002
> is it only "graduating" college players that go in the draft and the rest is done with trades and contracts?
bingo
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>>64755939
>Historically great

At WR. 2011 is the GOAT
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>>64756002
Every Year players who've never been in the nfl have the opportunity to declare that they are entering the draft. 95% of them is young college players at least 3 years removed from high school.

There are seven rounds, and the draft order for each round is determined by inverse standings of last year's season(except for playoff teams.)

Teams can trade draft picks

Once a player is drafted, the team "owns" that players rights for a few years.
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>>64756087
>most stacked WR draft of all time
>Jordan "le drop man" Matthews
still a semi-encouraging season from him later on tho tbf
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>Norman thinks he deserves DPotY

tip top kek, JJ Watt "missed" 4 weeks and still lead the NFL in sacks, not to mention all the other things, he's easily won the award already
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>>64756137
2007 is pretty damn good once you look past jamarcus

>Megatron
>Joe Thomas
>AP
>Revis
>Lawernce Timmons
>Joe Staley
>Greg Olsen
>Weddle
>ryan kalil
>marshal yanda
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Told you fuckers Cam was a top 5 QB and elite and y'all said no. First team all pro and gonna be a near unanimous MVP. Literally the best QB in the NFL this season and that's without his #1 WR
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>>64756232
no one cares
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>>64756163
>"le crossing pattern drops man"
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>>64756223
>people still can't handle Norman shitposting irl
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>>64756137
just because one draft is the best doesn't mean another can't be historically great u kno
that phrase just implies that compares to the vast majority of drafts an unusual amount of talent was drafted, which is true of 2014
>>64756163
yeah i mean he was 3 yards away from 1k yards, got a fuckton of YAC and got 8 TDs again, all while dealing with another QB transition and a couple games of sanchez
also according to the stats i'm finding online he only had 4 drops on the year somehow? which seems low but idk
assuming he's gonna be playing outside of the slot more he's a fine #1 to have imo
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>>64756282
>>64756223
even ESPN thinks he deserves it more

http://espn.go.com/blog/carolina-panthers/post/_/id/18380/why-2-members-of-the-panthers-deserve-defensive-player-of-the-year-more-than-j-j-watt
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>>64756086
>>64756087
>>64756095
>>64756143
thanks senpai now lets hope for a snow game on saturday
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>>64756327
jordan matthews is decent but he can't be the vocal point of the offense. They need a #1.
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>>64756002
they don't throw existing players back into the draft, that's not the point. it's a system for new "amateur" players to be picked, usually from college but not necessarily (see: players that came from the USFL or NFL Europe back in the day).

the way it works is that the new incoming pool of players that have not been in the league yet all "declare" for the draft. they have to do this, they can't just ignore it and sign with whoever they want to anyways at a later time.

then during draft day, there are 7 rounds (more than 32 picks per round in the later rounds) where every team takes turns selecting who they want to call "dibs" on. being selected doesn't mean they are obligated to play for them, it means that the drafting team gets priority. after getting drafted, the team and the agent of the player go into contract discussions for how much the player will be paid and for how long.

so, if the player refuses to play for the team that drafted them (rare), they have 3 options basically: demand a trade, wait out the period that the team owns their rights (several years, can't play in the league during that time), or suck it up and sign a contract with them anyways.

for all the players that went through the draft process but didn't get drafted even after the 7 rounds are done, they become undrafted free agents (UDFA) and can sign with anyone they want, because no team owns the right to sign them first.

after the player's rookie contract expires or is close to expiring, they can initiate contract negotiations again. some players will end up cut or traded from the team before that point, but the ones that survive their whole contract term can become unrestricted free agents after their contract ends, allowing them to sign with any team. assuming they aren't franchise tagged, of course.

it's also worth noting that draft picks are a league-recognized commodity, so they can be used as bargaining chips in all kinds of trades between teams.
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>>64756362
ESPN pushing their black agenda again
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>>64756422
lel
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>>64756362
Because some people are aware that Watt gets most of his stats in his shit division games and disappears otherwise
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>>64756422
according to Hopkins, Watkins doesn't need acrobatics to catch the ball because he is a sure route runner, but he can make the insane 1 handed catches when he needs to

Watkins and Hopkins have a rivalry going in that regard
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>>64756444
this guy mad as fuck
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>There are fags ITT that think the Panthers won't win the superbowl
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>>64756373
>the vocal point of the offense
what would that be, like TO? kek
and how do you know he can't be the focal point of the offense? this is his first year being the most talented receiver on the team and even then he still wasn't used the way #1s are generally used
i'd wait till next year is over to pass complete judgment like that
>>64756422
i think watkins does run better routes yeah, but i'm not sure if that alone makes him better than ODB
i do agree that his numbers suffer from being in the bills not-so-pass-heavy offense
i was impressed at what he did to revis that last game, i think it was a sign of what he can become
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To Houston fans, the reason the media likes you is JJ Watt. The reason they are not picking you is Bryan Hoyer.

The reasons they don't like KC
>No national ad player
>average players across the board
>Don't have a name they like at QB
>small market fly-over
>not located on the West (Fox) or East (ESPN&CBS) coast
>Not scoring 40pts a game
>Muh drought
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http://fanspeak.com/ontheclock/

Rev up those mock drafts
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>>64756379
>all this autism
At this point you should just make a series of youtube videos explaining how everything about football works, not just the basic rules during a game.
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>>64756373
>the vocal point
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There are only two receivers from the 2014 Draft that make up the A tier and that's OBJ and Robinson

Everyone else is B tier
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>>64756544
>falling for the Oakmeme
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>>64756507
Panthers fan here. NFL playoffs are one and done, so best team doesn't always win. The mounting injuries at CB might kill us
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>Cam Newton gets All-Pro mention but not Palmer or Brady

Nice SJW media
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>>64756586
Yeah it's deliberate black bias

If not Brady then certainly fucking Palmer deserved it, instead they reward hero ball
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>>64756567
Very nervous about our thin secondary, Norman better step up in the playoffs.
Same for Ginn
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>>64756536
>implying Brian Hoyer isn't the same caliber as Smiff

these teams are similar, but where KC only has Justin Houston, who is only probable, Texans have at least 2 good pass rushers (mercilus and clowney) and the DPotY

and it's not "drought", it's that Andy Reid has been a playoff choker for years
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>>64756544
>Se
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>>64756586
It's alright, Panthers will get exposed as a meme in the playoffs. Seattle or Arizona will beat them.
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>>64755921
why do you think i mentioned that they needed another TE? Basically, the problem with the Falcons really is redzone efficiency. They lead the league in redzone turnovers committed and redzone inefficiency. They need to add more weapons, they haven't added any passing weapons since Julio in 2011.

The defense has great potential if they add more pass rushers and linebackers who can cover. The defense was #14 in PPG and #16 in YPG this season (vast improvement from #32 last season).
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>>64756645
Clowney is not likely to play.
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>>64756660
Tight ends can be great in the redzone though
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>>64756656
Seattle is the best team in the NFL by far this year. The only teams that can beat them is themselves or the Rams.
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>>64756373
>vocal point
Well it's a doggy dog world out there not everyone can be the vocal point
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>>64756586
I give him credit for putting up numbers similar to those two with literal shit at wr. The fact that he helps push an agenda certainly doesn't hurt though.
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>>64756677
Nice dubs.
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>>64756660
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>>64756662
just as likely as Houston at this point
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>>64756654
I would put Hurns over Brown because Hurns has more yards and touchdowns. The Jags clearly knew what they were doing in the 2014 draft by picking up all of those receivers
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>>64756645
Tamba hali > clowner
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>>64756696
Yeah but Brady had literal shit at oline for most of the year and shit at WR for half of it

If Brady kept up his pace from the first half of the year (when everyone was at least somewhat healthy) he would have BTFO Cam's numbers by a long shot
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>>64756736
Khalil Mack is better than either of those players.
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I'm going to pop in madden 15 for the first time, what's the best playbook on UT?
Saints? Panthers? Broncos? Seahawks?
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>>64756645
I'm tell you why ESPN is picking KC not why people on /sp/ should pick KC. When it comes down to it ESPN says Defenses are even (Hali &Houston VS Watt) and offenses are even (Maclin and Kelce vs Hopkins) so they go to playoff record which 1-2 beats 0-0.

I, even as a chiefs fan, know the game comes down to two things
>Will JJ Watt go off?
>Can Marcus Peters cover Hopkins?
You can't assume that Houston wins both of theses just like I can't assume KC wins both. Because there are games where Watt does nothing and Hopkins is contained.
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>>64756562
>>64756654
I honestly love Oakmeme. He is basically Clowney. Clowney in the 2nd round is appropriate. The Falcons need more physically imposing DEs to eat up double teams for Beasley, who was doubled all year long from weeks 6-15. The Panthers left him singled up on the right side and paid for it.

I also like Shilique Calhoun. I would take either Calhoun or Oakman in the 2nd round without hesitation.
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>>64756544
>>64756654
>tfw Landry wasting away in Miami with Tannelel
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>>64756749
>Yeah but Brady had literal shit at oline

Why was Bill signing feces? Pretty sure that violated health codes.
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>>64756754
Not the argument m8
But RN Houston >Mack
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>>64756546
I had a long post typed out to respond to this but maybe that would be a fun way to spend the offseason as long as I don't have to stick to a strict schedule. I mean I have a microphone, basic image editing software, and basic video editing software, so it's possible to do that. I dunno how many people would really care though if I actually bothered to put in the work.
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>>64756761
Clowney is shit and a bust.
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>>64756756
Run N Gun lets you put your RB or WR at QB in shotgun formation so if you have someone like Terrelle Pryor, Darren McFadden or Denard Robinson you can plug him in and fucking style on everyone. I know Denard Robinson has pretty decent passing ratings, something like 80 arm strength and 70 accuracy across the board
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>>64756756
It is a madden game, so whoever has the better passing playbook. So Saints or Broncos flip a coin they are about the same
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>>64756720
fuck i completely spaced on hurns because he was undrafted
i'd put him at 9th because of evans' drop issues, but not too much higher because he's helped out a lot by AR15 drawing so much attention
>>64756761
oakman completely underwhelmed last year with an easy af schedule and has multiple off the field concerns
physically it's all there but mentally i wouldn't touch the guy
>>64756784
raiders fans can't handle it when their team isn't discussed for more than 5 minutes
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>>64756758
>1-2
they're 2-2, senpai
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>>64756623
Norman will shut down who he faces. It's the #2 that's going to need some help.

McClain or Finnegan or whoever we put there
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>>64756890
QB records
Smith 1-2 Hoyer never played.
favor Smith.
Now if it was teams
8-15, 1-1 in SB vs 2-2
Favor houston.
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Can the Cowboys send Rolando McClain back?
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>>64755928
Desaun Watson is the flashiest option next year as a true junior. Baker Mayfield may leave early or stay 1 more year, although I think he won't amount to much in the NFL. Brad Kaaya is also pretty well known at Miami. Josh Rosen won't be eligible until 2018 draft. And there'll be any number of QBs who won't get attention until they declare or put up ridiculous stats.
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>>64756799
I would still take Clowney right now. The Falcons need a massive block eater.

>>64756867
He's still going to be a SPRAQ god. He could put on some more weight with that frame and be a DT/DE.
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>>64756940
>counting things from pre expansion (2002)

and the Browns won a championship, in a foregone time
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>>64755728
Packers are shit.
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>>64756977
You're delusional but as a panthers fan of love you to get those players
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Go Pats
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http://www.npr.org/2016/01/07/462289741/nfl-confidential-anonymous-player-on-why-he-loathes-the-league

>"Johnny Anonymous"
>shits on players, coaches, the league itself
>players are either "psychos" who actually like their jobs, losers who only do it for money, or morons who are too stupid to do anything else
>or the superior "0.01%, me, who hate everything about it"
>"catch me if you can"

It's David Molk, a shitty, career back up, undersized center.
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>>64756982
...I..I gave Houston the edge in team record. But for your shitposting pleasure
0-4KC to 2-2Hou
Qbs are still the same. And the Browns have 8 titles, correct.
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>>64756982
>anything more than a year ago matters
Patriots won the only title that counts.
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Ladm8s, is there a site where I can download NFL game replays on the day after they happen? How soon are they uploaded to torrent trackers?
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>>64756802
>>64756861
Thanks
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WE'RE GOING TO THE SHIP!!!
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>>64757096
Download or watch I meant
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>>64757031
He's mad cause he's shit.
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>>64756977
clowney is actually a pass rusher though, not just an athlete
oakman is fucking massive and strong but his technique is retarded and he makes a ton of mental mistakes
everyone shits on clowney because according to them "he only made one play in college and that's why he was first overall" but oakman doesn't even have that
he's rated on unwarranted hype and size alone
>>64757031
>david molk
we need to cut that fucker, i'd rather have bennie logan playing center than him
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>>64756660
>Lake
Opinion discarded.
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>>64757104
This World Champion might just have something to say about that...
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>>64755659
So let me get this straight:
The Offensive Coordinator of a 15-1 team didn't work for the Dolphins, but they think the Offensive Coordinator of a 6-10 will?
>Lelphins
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>>64757031
>npr

how'd they find out it was him? context or did he just spill the beans
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>>64757031
proof its molk?

also >superior 1%
extreme fedora tipping irl
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Russel "My Girlfriend's child" Wilson:
>Cucked by Malcolm Butler
>Cucked by Future
>Cucked by Lynch
>About to be megacucked by the Vikings and """"""chilly"""""" weather
>You or I could be cucking him right now for all we know
>Support base consists of Xehawks bandwagoners/apologists
Why people think the Seahawks are going to win tomorrow is beyond me
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>>64757228
who do we think the best bowler on the pats is? gronk? brady? someone else who's white?
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>>64757228
Is bill the hardass dad who secretly loves his kids?
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Reading the /nfl/ general is like walking into a gay bar that has a huge orgy of regulars in the middle of the bar every time the bar is open, and the bar never closes.
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>>64757228
>The Browns could have kept this man as their head coach
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>>64757229
He's a true role model.
A man who sticks to his moral code regardless of others mocking.
A man who proved naysayers wrong his whole life.
You're to small to be a QB.
You're too short to be a starter in the NFL.
You're not good enough to wind a World Title.

And regardless of the setbacks...
Being forced to file for divorce from his unappreciative wife.
Being cast off from NC State for a giraffe.
Losing the Rose Bowl in his senior year.
Losing the Super Bowl in his 2nd appearance in one.

He never quit.

And that's why he's a winner. And that's why he'll win tomorrow too.
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>>64757308
Gronk looks like he bowls the best. Brady probably bowls a bit better than most of the team but not in the top 5 and everyone probably makes jokes that bowling isn't his sport.
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>>64757228
>"Alright team, today's focus is how we're going to "bowl" over the competition"
Based Hoodie strikes again
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>>64757165
People would have cried nepotism since Shulas old man was a legend there
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>Calvin Johnson wants to finish his bachelor's degree in building construction at Georgia Tech

I'm a Junior in Civil at Tech, what are the chances I get to see this based man in my department before I graduate in Spring 2017?
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>>64757308
Truly the brains of the operation
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>>64757316
He'd be the Ravens HC tho
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>>64757134
>>64757121
On toughness:
“For some guys, linemen especially,” he writes, urinating in your pants while on the field “is actually a thing, a sign that you’re so into the game, so much of a fighter” that you won’t pause to use the toilet. “You’d rather let it spill out all over your legs.”

On trying to gain weight and being the first homosexual football player:
"So each week, on the evening before his weigh-in, he eats until he is gorged. “When I wake up, my colon feels like it’s going to explode, like there’s a midget punching me in the gut with every step,” he writes. “But I hold that little man in. He’s not going anywhere.”

On being a nice guy:
“In the off-season he lives with his dad. "God,” he says, “I love the Beach Boys.” His idea of a good time is going to the nearest mall. His idea of an even better time is saving money on sheets at Macy’s. He’s cheap. After dinner at a Cheesecake Factory, he writes: “I leave a nice 10 percent tip. That’s a lot, for me.”

On being an adult:
Forget the bling and the women, he says. Players watch TV and play too many video games. “We gotta be at our hotels by 10 p.m.,” he writes, “and we drink more protein shakes than alcohol.”

>>64757214
>>64757218
They didn't spill the beans. Other people figured it out from context clues in the book. What team has had a diva wide receiver "Dante" (to remain anonymous, leave early in 2014. This team is also associated with protein shakes and has an aged but Pro Bowl caliber LT. What player on that team is a 3rd string OL, claims he's 6'3 (Molk is actually 6'1 lol), and 270-290 lbs? Did this player's mother die before her time?

It's Molk.
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i'm white
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>>64757441
Nigger.
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>>64757441
pigskin
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>>64757441
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>>64757441
football in anus nigger
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>>64757228
>Team in complete shambles
>Josh letting brady throw 5 times a half

>"Come on fuckers we're going bowling"
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>>64757409
>urinating in your pants while on the field “is actually a thing, a sign that you’re so into the game, so much of a fighter” that you won’t pause to use the toilet. “You’d rather let it spill out all over your legs.”
agreed i'm the same way at work
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>>64757314
How many times have you walked into a gay bar anon?
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>>64757521
Absolutely 0 times but having been in the /nfl/ general I've experienced what it'd be like many times.
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>>64757031
>>or the superior "0.01%, me, who hate everything about it"
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>>64757314
>what is every general ever
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>>64757539
You wanna have some fun, buddy?
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>>64757441
You poor little dick, uncool, motherfucker.
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>>64757539
Gay bars are a good time, as a straight dude. Don't hate.
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>>64757552
Have you ever been in any other generals in /sp/?
The statement you said is far from the truth.
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>>64757579
>straight dude
>dude
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>>64757340
Lol, he's fake as they come, man. Fake good boy persona, endorsement whore, pretends to be religious, kind of a false idol if you ask me tbqh. Why you want someone like him as a role model is beyond me. He is good though, tiny but built, fast, has an arm.

>>64757363
>strikes
Niice

>>64757312
Yes. Anytime there's been a war movie in theaters, Belichick takes the team to watch it. Probably to show comradery, build a bond and no one loves the US troops like The Hoodie
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>>64757441
roody poo
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>>64757096
>>64757118
Anyone? 4PM ET games I can handle, Super Bowl at six and a half - fine, it's the fucking SB and the last game of the year, but my sleep graphic isn't ready for primetime games every week yet
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>>64757228
inb4 this is posted after the Pats lose in the divisional round
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>>64757518
>not planning your bowel movements

its tough but possible
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>>64757618
>Lol, he's fake as they come, man. Fake good boy persona, endorsement whore, pretends to be religious, kind of a false idol if you ask me tbqh

what are you basing this on, or are you just talking out of your ass again?
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>>64757441
POO
O
O

IN
N

LOO
O
O
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>>64756444
Carolina plays in a shit division too and had like the second easiest schedule in the league
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>Cam got all-pro mentions over Brady and Palmer

And I thought all-pro was more legit than the sham that is the pro-bowl

What a joke
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>>64757687
>Seahawks play in a shit division too and had like the second easiest schedule in the league
FTFY
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>>64757312
Fathers who love their kids don't cut them before a super bowl
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>>64757602
i doubt it
also frequent any other general that isnt /dead/ tier and youll see how wrong you are
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>>64757707
>journalists
>well informed
>legit

baka desu senpai
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>>64757755
Literally has lower stats
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>>64757720
Nigga. I frequented /mlb/ during the regular/post season as well as other generals and during those generals I've not seen as many trips suck each others dicks in every single general, post pictures of their transexual ass and every single regular anon saying how rockhard it gets them.

If you think other generals are anyway as homosexual as the people who frequent /nfl/ in any light you are delusional about your sport.
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>>64757667
Look up any of his interviews, he whores for his endorsements and ONLY when they win he says ">muh God is a Xekucks fan". If you need to ask why he's fake, you're probably blind.
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>>64756677
>Seattle
>best team
Top kek. They have a good stretch and suddenly they're the best team. They'll lose to the Vikings and we can all go home
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>>64757755
>Cam Newton
that's not how you spell Russell Wilson
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>People on local sports radio comparing the 2010 10-6 Packers to this year's 10-6 Packers
I wish I had a shred of optimism, but it was all pissed away last week when the offense was in the red zone.
God damn, what if...what if...Sneak, the biggest faggot in the galaxy, was.................right?
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>>64757805
That's because he tries to be like the Based Carr and fails miserably.
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>>64757867
Speaking of which, I should update my franchise QB analysis to include this season.
>>
Anyone wanna play Madden on ps4??

No black boy HB Toss allowed
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Chefs and Toxins game shouldn't even be played. They are both irrelevant. This is the irrelevant bowl. Because whoever wins loses next week
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>>64757779
>Us DVOAs
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>>64757707
Brady's only gotten it 3 times in his whole career, it's a sham
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>>64757962
Chefs can beat anyone in the afc

They just have to make it past the wild card round
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>>64757687
And he went 15-1 with his easy schedule and Wilshit went like 10-6 with a refball win his easy schedule
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>>64757843
It's possible
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>>64758000
Chiefs hardest matchup would be the patriots. Chiefs have shown they they can beat Manning and if they face the Broncos who after game 16 will be started in the playoffs, who not only ontop of his age, and his playoff choking history got absolutely shamed by the Chiefs.

Expect that to happen again but worse and at the broncos own home.

Only thing that has to happen is the Chiefs beating the pats.
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>>64758015
Cam plays with the most stacked defense in the NFL whereas Russell's was getting exposed week after week for the first half of the season
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>>64757962
>Steelers beat Bengals
>either of these teams can BTFO Broncos
>Bengals beat Steelers
>either of these teams have an okay chance of beating Patriots (see the last 2 weeks of the Pats season)

why are you made? both of these teams have a pretty good chance to make the AFC CG, more so than the Steelers or the Bengals sans Dalton

every writer is calling these the hottest 2 teams entering the playoffs
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>>64757858
When Rodgers made a similar comment about God, Russ got all rustled lol
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>mfw cam cucks thought nig Newton was better than luck

>Luck playoff wins
3

>Newton playoff wins
1
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>>64758051
The Panthers are highest scoring offense in the league

>>64758058
funny how's it kinda went all down hill for Rodgers since he's done that
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>>64758071
But where is Luck this season?
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>>64758081
Because Cam has an Oline
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>>64757843
I tried to warn you guys. Really I did.
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>>64758052
The Jets Jaguars and Raiders are infinitely better than those two clowns. Fuck Cleveland is better than them.
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>>64755759
Be not afraid. This has been willed where, what is willed, must be.
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>>64757800
i guess i havent been here long enough but i havent seen fuccboi ass posted here, in other words its been on topic for quite a while. on the other hand you seem to be assmad at the general for some reason

also i say this because i frequent 2 other generals constantly, one on /vg/ (/padg/) and the other on /k/ (/arg/). i used to frequent one on /m/ but it died, and another on /vg/ but it got really off topic all the time and had way too much of the problem youre literally describing (/tf2g/). so as far as i can tell this general has been alright so far with minimum circlejerking, but if its too much for you or /sp/ i cant fucking tell because thats how bad other boards can be
>>
Cam might be a little overrated, but he's literally the greatest redzone threat that's ever existed
>>
>>64756567
>this preemptive damage control
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>>64758127
This is the most autistic image I've ever seen on this board
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>>64756586
>WAAAAAH WHY ARE THEY RECOGNIZING A NOTABLE PLAYER DURING THE ONE SEASON HE IS NOTABLE
>WAAAAAAAH WHY DON'T THEY AWARD THE EXACT SAME PLAYER YEAR AFTER YEAR REGARDLESS OF PERFORMANCE
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>>64758015
Wilson wasn't in the discussion and regardless he had to play Cards twice. Carolina played 3 playoff teams. Many others like GB, Bengals, Cheifs, and Steelers had to play playoff teams 7 times
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>>64758132
Any general on /vg/ is what I originally described. Just how the nature of videogames and the social circle around them. Wouldn't know about /k/ but I meant more or less on /sp/ /nfl/ is by far the worst one.
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>>64758048
Chiefs are perfectly capable of beating the Pats as well. Andy Reid is one of the few coaches in the NFL that can go toe-to-toe with Bill gameplan-wise. Remember the Monday Night Massacre?
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>>64756654
>Cooks above Robinson

Dont get me wrong, i love Cooks, but he was sorta quiet for a part of the season, Brown is always putting mad numbers.
Provided that Cooks is in a very spread out system, everyone gets the ball and there is no #1.
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>>64756252
You are. And it is killing you. Here. eat some delicious Oikos yogurt.
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>>64758051
Because Cam isn't leading the highest scoring offense and bailed his team out multiple times where the defense let up 30+ points. Wilson has ONE win over a team that scored 24 or more
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>>64758102
>Cam wins MVP and all these awards so now people are pretending that Michael Oher is good again
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>>64758116
>texans literally just beat the jags
>chiefs literally just beat the raiders
>jets literally just beat the pats
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>>64756379
>they don't throw existing players back into the draft, that's not the point


Exception -- rarely, when the league expands and new teams are created. Then the new team(s) get to draft a few unprotected crap players from existing teams.But that's not the draft we're tlaking about here.
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>>64758215
By no means is it good but it's better than fucking Seattle's by a lot
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>>64758269
>>64758269
>>64758269

new thread desu senpai
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>>64756567
I was feeling pretty good until I saw Carl Rove picked the Panthers to win it all. Rove is a genius at politics (maybe an evil genius, but a genius nonetheless) but he can't pick football for shit.
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>>64758229
yes, that was the point. the expansion draft is a special case, as are supplemental drafts which have some different rules. there's also some things I said that are not exactly true, but give a starting base of working information to someone who doesn't get it.
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>>64758224
>Chefs and Toxins have any worth
>anything but BradyVManning 17 is happening.
>Patriots aren't going to win again
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>>64758299
a wild bandwagoner has appeared
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>>64758186
This is literally the one time in Andy Reid's career he beat Belichick

Though he did come close a few times like in 07
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>>64756677
>The only teams that can beat them is themselves or the Rams.

Panthers beat them once already, at Seattle, so it's possible they'll beat them in Charlotte.

That said, the weather at the Vikings game may literally kill them all, and then it wont matter. Shit's going to be brutal.
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>implying this isnt happening
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>>64758188
>>64758217
I meant brown. Fuck.
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>>64758333
Trips confirm
>>64758338
With AJ Feely
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>>64758190
The marketing manager for Oikos must be raking in the shekels right now btw
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>>64758352
>I posted it again
>>
>>64756749
>If

IF that had happened, then you'd have a point,

Protip: It didn't happen. You have no point.
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>>64756536
>they dont like the chiefs
>everyone pretending Marcus "big play" Peters is elite
>even though that means ignoring truly elite Ronald Darby
Im sad desu
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>>64758364
I know, I'm an Eagles fan and still remember that whole game

Jim Johnson literally created the blueprint for beating that Pats team that everyone else then began to employ like the Ravens and Gnats
>>
>Brady didnt even make second team all-pro

Holy LEL

I hope that motivate him for the playoffs

No one plays better than pissed off Brady
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>>64756793
I would not care, I prefer knowing shit about stuff.
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>>64758375
been posting it all week fella
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>>64758399
This. RIP JJ. The real genius.
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Superb Owl 50 will be Steelers/Seahawks. No refball. Final destination.
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>>64758395
It's hypocritical to say Cam's numbers are impressive with dogshit at WR and then discredit Brady's numbers being equally as good with far less help
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>>64758399
rest in peace JJ ;_;7
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>>64758333
I'm not a bandwagoner I have been a pats fan since 2001. I've been there for the hard times of not going 19-0 and Matt Cassel at QB and didn't waver.
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>>64758431
Brady is not 15-1
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>>64758352
>This happens
>0:25 seconds left
>NE 24, SEA 28
>NE has the ball
>2nd & Goal and pass the ball
>Brady throws it directly at a Seattle player who manages to not catch the ball in a similar fashion to superbowl 49
>Next play is a NE TD.

NE becomes a dynasty.
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>>64758445
Brady didn't play two teams above .500 for the whole year

That's not excuses, that's just literally looking at quality of opponents
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>>64758398
>Bills
There's your problem.
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>>64757228
I assume they were all super bowlers?
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>>64758410
POST THE FIRST AND SECOND ALL PRO TEAMS PLEASE
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>>64757031
Lol, when you're making at minimum 435,000 dollars to play a game you don't want to play, you don't have to.
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>>64758445
When Brady went 16-0 he beat like 7 playoff teams

Who the FUCK have the Memeolina Panthers beaten other than Aaron Rodgers outside of his babby stadium and a Seattle team 2 weeks away from losing to Detroit?
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>>64758459
No

No they wouldnt

The panthers RELEASED LAFELL and he was our main option for sometime with everyone injured
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>>64756223
not so fast espn reader
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>>64758544
Exactly, garbage franchises like the Saints and Bucs and nobody actually good except for the two cases I mentioned
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>>64758487
>First team
QB: Cam Newton
HB: Adrian Peterson, Doug Martin
FB: Mike Tolbert
WR: Antonio Brown, Julio Jones
TE: Rob Gronkowski
G: David DeCastro, Marshal Yanda
C: Ryan Kalil
T: Andrew Whitworth, Joe Thomas

DE: Khalil Mack, JJ Watt
DT: Geno Atkins, Aaron Donald
OLB: Khalil Mack, Thomas Davis, Von Miller
ILB: Luke Kuechly, NaVorro Bowman
CB: Josh Norman, Patrick Peterson
S: Tyrann Mathieu, Eric Berry

K: Stephen Gostkowski
P: Johnny Hekker
KR: Tyler Lockett

>Second team
QB Carson Palmer
RB: Todd Gurley, Devonta Freeman
FB: Pat DiMarco
TE: Greg Olsen
WR: Brandon Marshall, DeAndre Hopkin, Odell Beckham Jr.
OT: Tyron Smith, Trent Williams
OG: Josh Sitton, Mike Iupati; Zach Martin
C: Travis Frederick

DE: Muhammad Wilkerson; Ziggy Ansah
OT: Kawann Short, Fletcher Cox
OLB: Jamie Collins
ILB: Bobby Wagner, Derrick Johnson
CB: Richard Sherman, Chris Harris Jr., Marcus Peters
S: Reggie Nelson, Charles Woodson

PK: Dan Bailey
P: Sam Koch
KR: Cordarrelle Patterson
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Could someone be inducted into the Hall of Fame, and then play the next year?
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>http://www.vikings.com/media-vault/videos/96-Questions-with-B-Rob-Biggest-Diva-On-The-Team/797c7b60-721b-4ea3-a25d-4e5625f7783d
>Robison: Who is the most annoying person?
>Wallace: Can I give my usual answer? Stefon Diggs

>mfw when how salty Mike Wallace is
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>>64758431
Which I didn't do. All I did was say that it is bullshit of the purist type to base your argument on what might have happened if what actually happened had not, in fact, happened.

If Brady kept his pace, and if Cam turned into literal Superman and used heat vision to melt opposing players while scoring 15,000 touchdowns by passing to himself... yeah, we can talk about who would be MVP and All Pro and whatever if made up shit happened., if you want to.
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>>64756441
man, the panthers raped the bears on that trade
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>>64758544
ummmm Atlanta?
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>>64758579
to be fair mike wallace has had to waste his prime years with ryan tannehill and teddy bridgewater
>>
>The W-L record does not tell us how good the Panthers are.
>The W-L records of the teams they played does tell us how good those teams are.

Wait, what?
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>>64758582
Except one is a projection using math and the other is you strawmanning like fuck to defend Cam having the easiest schedule in the entire league with 5 other all pros
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>>64758582
Brady should at least be one of the all-pros considering hes at the top of most QB stats

But lel, all that matters is the ring, so hopefully this motivates him
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>>64757031
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/29/david-molk-im-the-best-center-in-the-draft-and-its-stupid-to-say-im-not/

It's definitely David Molk.
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>>64756567
>Panthers fan here
why would someone lie on an anonymous image board?
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>>64758615
>Team goes 16-0 beating everyone under .500 so they have to be good

Wew lad
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>>64758553
I don't know who this memefaggot is, but he's not the DPotY
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>>64758615
people focus too much on the schedules and not how the teams actually play, it's fucking retarded
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>tfw I had a dream that the packers somehow got Calvin and were going 18-1 on the league before the one
>tfw I wake up
favre should have been the one throwing to moss...
>waking up at 4pm
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>>64758623
Holy shit, I want to punch him.
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>>64756586
im loving the tears since cam became a literal superman. /sp/ is a goldmine of crying racist cucks.
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>>64758352
Your NFC is perfect but your AFC is shit
>Steelers winning
>Texans winning
>Broncos winning
I have the same Super Bowl and outcome but hate your AFC predictions
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>>64758613
>my face when when
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>>64758623
>“He never played against me,” Molk said of Mayock. “I don’t think a finesse player has ever had defensive linemen quit during a game; quit and give up because you’re hurting them. I don’t think a finesse player has ever done what I do, which is just ground kids out of the hole. I think the fact he called me a finesse player is because he hasn’t watched me on film.”

What a douche.
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>>64758574
Lemieux did it in the NHL at least
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>>64758667
Yeah, I know.
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>>64756677
>Seattle is the best team in the NFL by far this year.
You mean the team that the panthers have already beat like a rented mule?
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>>64758617
Its people like you that cause the world to hate the patriots, not that you're winners, by the way
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>>64758687
There is a pretty substantial difference between playing the Jets, Bills and Dolphins for 6 of your games and playing the dumpster that is the NFC south for your 6
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>>64758417
well, I guess the first step would be to figure out what topics to make them on? I think it might be easier to digest if I broke things up into self-contained subjects. separating them by things about the game of football and things about the league makes sense, but I'm not sure what things people specifically need clarification on. there's a lot of "basic rules" videos out there already, so where do I go from there?
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>>64758717
Do you honestly think Brady doesn't crack 50 TDs/5000 yards with a healthy pffense?
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BASED
SEXY
ROSEN
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>>64756749
>we should base awards on what could've happened

please drink a gallon of bleach.
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>>64758573
>le fletcher cox is a DT meme
oh well
>charles woodson
muh INTs
>>>>>richard sherman
also they have a category for kick returners and not punt returners? lame
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>>64758718
None of those teams have a good QB. Cam faced three good ones in six games
>>
>>64758688
He called him a finesse player because he's at least 15 and at most 40 pounds underweight for his position in the pros.
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>>64758657
You know, if he never his mother died, though all the other info he gave way would have eventually made it obvious, he wouldn't have been found so easily.

The fact that he said his mother died, coupled with the thing about the divas WR, the fact that he's an linemen, the fact that he pretty much told us that he plays with Jason Peters, it's so easy to find him

I will take pleasure when he's cut and homeless.
>>
>>64758736
>We should give awards for statpadding against garbage instead of quality of play

You are why Papa Johns has 5 fucking MVPs despite being the greatest choker this game has ever seen
>>
>>64758733
You honestly think Cam isn't hindered by not having Kelvin Benjamin for 16 games?
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>>64757156
>This World Champion
that's not a pic of Brady
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>>64758744
Yeah because Drew Brees and Matt Ryan excuse the fact that everyone around them is garbage
>>
>>64758751
And he was 6'0 tall.
>>
>>64758764
He is but not anywhere fucking near as much considering Kelvin is at best an arguable top 12 receiver
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>>64758763
you don't pick who you face on your schedule
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>>64758782
Forgot to add Cam to that list?
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>>64758718
>Jest
>Bills
>Dolphins

gosh golly how tough
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>>64758808
No but you can look at who the fucking MVP candidates played and pick one based off of something other than raw unadjusted stats

>>64758815
>5 other all pros
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>>64758623
W E W

E

W

L A D S

A

D

S
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r8 and h8
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>>64758744
>QBs face off head to head
>a good QB can make his team's defense better
>the Saints and Bucs defenses are comparable to the Jets and Bills defenses
lol
>>64758815
you can't seriously think the panthers are garbage outside of cam senpai
>>
>>64758826
Dude cried that the black players joked that a table of white guys were at a KKK meeting, as if the black guys were even remotely serious.
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>>64758823
Jets were almost a playoff team

That alone puts them above the fucking NFC south by a mile lol
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>>64757867
>cam has >= rushing yards than 12 NFL teams
>>
Why 'fuck da clots'? Why does anyone have any reason to be mad with them, especially this season?
>>
>>64758832
Not happening.
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>>64758840
>""""""almost"""""" a """"""playoff"""""" team
>>
If your contract includes a bonus for being named All Pro, do you deserve two bonuses for being named All Pro at two different positions?
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>>64758051
>cam becomes greatest nfl player
>racist cucks can't find any reason to say he's inferior
>blames his defense
>>
>>64758832

I can't hate that, it's too fucking hilarious
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>>64758832
perfect
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>>64758864
>Thinking the Bucs, Saints and Falcons are better than the Bill, Dolphins, Jets

>tf
>tt
>>
>>64758127
MEOW
>>
>>64758864
>he legitimately thinks the NFC South outside Carolina is better than the AFC East outside the Pats
holy fucking shit lad
>>64758865
i think at this point the Raiders are just taking money out of al davis's estate and throwing it at mack
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posting this again for unrealistic amusement
>>
Pats unironically lost to:

>Brock Memesweiler
>Sam Memeford
>Ryan Memezpatrick
>a shitty no-coach Dolphins team
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>>64758647
Panthers fans think they deserve all the awards, I'm sure that if they had half decent rookies they'd want those too.
>>
Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter 3m3 minutes ago
Detroit Lions are expected to hire Patriots director of pro scouting Bob Quinn as their general manager, league sources told ESPN.
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>>64758909
At this point the Raiders are throwing everything at all their good players, praying they won't leave.
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Does this make you upset
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>>64758977
>hiring Bellichick Babbies
IT"S 2016!
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>>64758939
every playoff team has lost to teams that aren't playoff caliber senpai
>>64758944
>if two of the pairs are equivalent and and the third is in favor of the AFCE, it somehow delegitimizes the argument
??? ???
>>64758985
mack should be the #1 priority was my point, but yeah lock up carr and cooper when the time comes too
>>
>>64758990
No. Not again. I won't let this happen.
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>>64758472
Not mine though
It's not like the chefs are mainstream or something
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>>64758944
Both of those teams are slightly better than their NFC South counterparts and the Jets are way fucking better than the Saints
>>
>>64759008
also it should really go:
bucs=fins
saints<bills
falcons<jest
soooooo
>>
>>64759031
They are not, they fall under the problem of the coach being the most known person on the franchise. I forgot LeSean was there or if Watkins was playing but I wasn't allowed to forget Rex Ryan. Peters having all the picks is what gets him in the talk for the award.
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>mfw the Colts will literally not win another division title for the next 10 years
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>>64759067
Saints>Dolphins
Falcons>Bills
Busc<Jest

BTFO
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>>64759108
I meant both. Most people would only known Reid if they don't go to /sp/ and get Smeth memes.
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>>64759110
>mfw the Chargers will finish last in the division for the next seven years
>mfw I have no face
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>>64756756
Giants
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>>64759067
I projected Bradford's numbers since the last Cowboys game. If he plays a full season like he did for the final 6.5 games, he'd be at 4824/25/10.

Holy fuck.
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>>64759144
>tfw Spanos will never die
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>>64758994
No, this might actually work. It would've been a bad hire if they hired someone meme-y, like McDumbass

Quinn has been rather anonymous and worked his way up to an executive under Bill's tree.
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>>64759158
t.b.h. I kind of feel sorry for you guys. People like Woodhead, Gates, and Rivers will never win a ring.
>>
post /sp/'s fw Cam win the NFL MVP.
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Minnesota should have built an open-air stadium.

Just Saiyan
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>>64756623
>Perfect Pass
>Still Bobbles it

>The City of Ted Ginn's hands
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>>64759181
Yeah, well, kill me.
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>>64759116
>comparing the worst team in one division to the best team in another division
lmao congrats sweden
>>64759142
because if you're not comparing the equivalent teams in each division, what's the point of comparing divisions anyway?
here:
panthers>seahawks
falcons>rams
saints>49ers
bucs<cardinals
there, now the NFC south is better than the NFC west
>>64759156
jesus
that yardage would easily be a franchise record right?
hopefully we can resign him for not too much
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>>64759186
not happening
libcuck media will push for it hard though
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>>64759203
>not being a bome dabbie.
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He deserves it.
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>>64759213
No offense, but it's karma for shitting on us Raidniggers while we were down. Now you are the Raidniggers.
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>>64759229
Meant for
>>64759186
>>
6 is too god damn cold for a good game to be played and you're an idiot if you disagree. It's a fact that players play better in better weather when they're more comfortable. I want to see these guys at their absolute best not settle because their balls are frozen.
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>>64759242
Why couldn't it be happening to the Broncos, though?
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>>64759220
>not happening
you do realize he'll only just miss being unanimous, right?
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>>64759257
It did, with the 5 Owl losses. And the Chiefs are feeling it now.
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>>64759220
>not happening
haha this delusion
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>>64759220
>the same media who named Cam first team all pro won't make him MVP

It's going to be near unanimous bud
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>>64759254
I enjoy when they have to battle the elements as well. It what makes football FOOTBALL.
Fuck domes t b h
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>>64759263
>>64759289
i think he'll get a decent majority, but people will still vote for palmer and brady
probably a few random votes for people like wilson and peterson too
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>>64758081
No worse BTFO than being BTFO by a higher power
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>>64759224
the seahawks playoff game is going to be one of the best games in quite awhile and will lead to minnesota bitching for "muh nostalgia" and "muh dome mistake"
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>>64759296
>I enjoy when they have to battle the elements as well
this. if my team is not playing i want blizzard or monsoon weather
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>>64759303
He will get a sizable majority. Brady was trash down the stretch and Palmer put up a goose egg in week 17
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>>64759303

I don't understand why Wilson isn't in the conversation more. Dude's been tearing it up.
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>>64759303
>wilson and peterson
nope
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>>64759325
>week 17
what?
i thought the MVP was only for the regular season
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>There are people ITT who think the NFC won't be represented by the NFC West
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>>64759326
>Dude's been tearing it up
for half a season
>>
Would you rather be a fan of a team that is crap for 4 out of 5 years, but one year wins the Owl or a team that is good 4 out 5 years but loses the Owl every year?
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>>64759347
Panthers are winning the NFC. It's not even close. They will bootyblast the playoffs and lose a close one in the owl.
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>>64759325
yeah week 17 really sealed it for him, i think i said something about how brady needed to destroy the dolphins to have a chance and he did the opposite of that
brady will get more votes on rep tho, and palmer is a better story
>>64759326
because he hasn't been as consistent as cam
>>64759327
i said they'll get votes, not that they'll win
>>64759332
ok, so? you're just confirming my point that the AFCE is better
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>>64759220
He'll make it m8

I wasn't even expecting him to make second team all-pro, and he got first fucking team

He's a lock for it now.
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>>64759372
1 owl win, that can never be taken away and team 2 will be seen as chokers
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>>64759372
Take the Owl. Becoming the new Razorcakes would be terrible.
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>>64759372
>Would you rather be a fan of a team that is crap for 4 out of 5 years, but one year wins the Owl

this one.
i can bandwagon the other years
>>
>Predictions using mathematical models based on statistical measures are becoming more commonplace. These models can be based on a variety of factors, such as player performance, wins and losses and strength of schedule. I developed a mathematical model based on regular-season team statistics to predict which teams would represent their respective conferences in Super Bowl 50. Using data from 2004 to 2011, the model correctly predicted the last two Super Bowl matchups (the Denver Broncos and Seattle Seahawks in Super Bowl XLVIII and the Seahawks and New England Patriots in Super Bowl XLIX), suggesting that it has some value.

>By applying the same model to the 2015 regular season, I developed the following predictions:

>Bengals 25
>Cardinals 23
>Steelers 23
>Panthers 21
>Patriots 19
>Broncos 16
>Seahawks 13
>Packers 13
>Chiefs 13
>Redskins 12
>Vikings 11
>Texans 7

>That's right -- based on this model, you can expect the Bengals and Cardinals to square off in Super Bowl 50.

fuckkkkk
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>>64759214
Most in franchise history and would be 2nd in the league this year. That number is inflated due to Chip's system, but it's deflated by the quality of the receivers.

He led the league with (conservative estimate) 5.6% of his passes dropped despite breaking franchise records for highest completion percentage. If the team brings it down to a league average 4%, then he projects out to 4935 yards. Shit man, they have to keep him. He's the real winner of the trade.
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>>64759381
>i said they'll get votes
and i said they won't
brady and palmer are the only other ones that will get any votes
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>>64759411
* and palmer may not even get any
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>>64759326
If he hadn't gotten sacked 31 times in the first seven and was able to put up good numbers, he probably would be.
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>>64759374
we shall see senpai
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>>64758127
Lol I remember "da prophecy" from a year or two ago about the Chargers. Now they're moving to LA. Good one idiot.
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>>64759403
>demarco murray, kenjon barner, and demarco murray combined for 13 drops on 95 targets for a drop percentage of 13.7%
reeeeee
i want him to stay on the team even if we draft a QB, and have them fight it out for the starting job
assuming bradford wins, the other guys gets to learn without pressure for a year
>>64759411
mmk
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Would totally cream my pants if this ever happened.
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Imagine how much better the Panthers would have been with Kelvin Benjamin. Next season. Prepare your assholes fuckers.
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r8
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>>64759495
schedule babbies
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>>64759470
Myles Jack is overrated. He got lit the fuck up in the Foster Farms Bowl.
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>>64759470
>shilique
>pharoh
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>>64759470
>myles jack falling to 17
na
>>64759495
already given up on this season senpai?
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>>64759495
I've read somewhere Cam said that losing Benjamin is what made him better. It forced him to learn defenses and spread the ball more. Who knows if that happens with Benjamin there.
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>>64759400
This model predicted a FalconsVSPatriots Super Bowl in its first year (2012). Yeah I don't think we have to worry about it being right.
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>>64759468
Demarco was so bad he contributed twice?
>>
so Bungholes/rapelisberger fans, how do you feel about DeAngelo Williams being out for the playoffs?
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>>64759529
The regular season is over. They're gonna fuck shit up in the playoffs too but i'm predicting an undefeated season next year. Next year they'll get it done and do it right. Benjamin was the missing piece.
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r8 my bracket /sp/
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>>64759532
it will. He wont just forget everything he learned.
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>>64759558
Red/10
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>>64759532
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>>64759558
Terrible. Chiefs are shit.
>>
NFL Network @nflnetwork 37s37 seconds ago
Teams w/ 3+ game win streaks heading into the playoffs -

1) @Chiefs 10 GM
2) @Redskins 4 GM
3) @HoustonTexans 3 GM
4) @Vikings 3 GM
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>>64759532
it is harder if you don't have a 6'5" jumping monster to chuck jump balls to
just ask jameis winston last year
>>64759550
if you say so i guess
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>>64759565
I'm not saying he'll forget, I'm saying Benjamin never gets hurt and Cam played 2015 with him and without adapting.

It could still happen, he was due to really breakout.
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>>64759580
Chiefs are currently less shit than the Pats, tho.
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>>64759532
Yeah, and last season when he was still recovering from ankle surgery and couldn't run, he was forced to become more of a pocket passer
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>>64759529
>myles jack falling to 17
Unlikely, but possible. He's injured right? Probably won't participate in all the combine drills. And as another anon said, he recently had a mediocre game. In a SB Nation mock he fell to the Falcons.

>>64759518
>black names

>>64759511
Nah, he's a true athletic OLB who has good range and athleticism to cover. He's exactly what the Falcons need.

>>64759501
solid
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>>64759580
lmao this delusional patsfag
>>
>>64759400
>2016
>using the ENTIRE 2016 season as a basis

I contend that using the last 8 weeks is the most accurate if you want to get an idea of how these teams will do in the playoffs.

things change over the course of the season and the teams have to adapt to those changes. by week 9, everyone has pretty much learned the systems, the rookies have gotten lots of experience, and the QBs have found their favorite targets

teams that falter in the final couple weeks of the season typically don't do well in the playoffs
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>>64759518
they're unique, like Cam himself is
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>>64759606
definitely not. The Patriots are a much better team. The Patriots outscored the Chiefs this season by 60 points but only allowed 10 more points. Their net score is a lot better. Net score is the most reliable stat to rate teams because it takes the entire game into consideration, both offense and defense.
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>>64759585

I pick all of them to win.
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>>64759558
This is what will actually happen
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>>64759613
his stock would have to really tank, some mocks are putting him within the top 5, probably because jaylon smith's leg inverted itself
you could always get scooby wright
>>64759648
cameron is a pretty normal name comparatively
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>>64759614
No delusion. I speak the Truth.
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>tfw 2 years until BSR wrecks the NFL
>>
John Elway is the GOAT
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>>64759668
I would take Jaylon
I like Scooby as an ILB but not an OLB. I wouldn't be against taking him in the 1st but the 2nd round is where he belongs.
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>>64759585
>10 game win streak
>8 of the teams were sub .500 garbage (3 wins charger, 2 wins browns, 5 win ravens)
>2 wins were Peyton getting hurt and Steelers w/ Landry Jones

if any team has had an easier schedule, I don't know who it is (perhaps seahawks or panthers)
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>>64759692
I could kick Elway's ass without breaking a sweat
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>>64759705
Doesn't matter, they still beat them. Teams are always due for upsets against bad teams (see the Pats), but they still pulled off wins. Winning is what matters in the end, who cares about all the bullshit you just said.
>>
Besides QB, what's the comfiest position to have an elite player at?
I'd say receiver.
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>>64759705
Browns won 3 Games. Just because Mr. Football wasn't playing didn't mean it didn't happen.
And Chargers won 4.
The wins already mean shit stop trying to devalue them even more
>>
>>64759695
leonard floyd is an underrated pass rusher, i'd take a look at him if i were you
>>64759742
personally i really really want scooby to fall to the 3rd, i'd love to have him, his 2014 is fantastic
if only he could stay healthy
>>64759750
pass rusher, RB, or WR prob
positions who can have a huge impact on the game in one play
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>>64759750
Left tackle
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>>64759779
nah we don't need any more tweeners with Beasley out there.

Honestly, Beasley would probably make an awesome convert to OLB, he's great in coverage. He played RB in high school. Basically like Anthony Barr. Still though he's the only player on the team who can consistently create pressure.
>>
>NFL Network pushing the "cam is MVP" agenda so hard that they even put his name all over the place even when some guy from another team is talking
How can anyone stand to watch this shit?
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is Randall Cobb still considered elite after being 2nd in yards after James Jones and 3rd in touchdowns?
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>@JasonLaCanfora
>I'd be very surprised if Mike Smith does not emerge as a strong head coach option with Tampa

what are you doing tampon gay???
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>>64759896
NO.
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>>64759861
>thinking he's not the MVP
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>>64759833
>noah spence
that the guy that got caught for fucking ectasy? i vaguely remember that story
>>64759837
yeah i'd keep him on the line, he's been decently effective there and linebacker is a need for you anyway
i've seen nkemdiche predicted to fall to you guys a couple times, what do you think of him? off field issues aside he's a monstrous talent
>>64759896
elite in the slot with another elite WR to take the pressure off maybe
>>
Should the Raiders draft Keenan Reynolds in the 7th round for memes?
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>>64759366
>>64759366
>>64759366


new thread
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>>64759973
>70+ posts early
fuck off m8
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>>64759996
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>>64759973
>guize, join my edgy racist bantz!
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>>64759861
did you wife have sexual intercourse with a black man?
is that why you're so mad?
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>>64759532
>learn defenses

Learn what? He didn't face a top defense all season.
>>
>>64760025
eh, it's more about making fun of deadspin for being massive cucks (they are part of gawker, after all)
>>
Top 16 QB of 2015
Air Yards + (.25)YACs + QB rushing
(#of games if less than 16)
1. Cam Newton - 3373
2. Carson Palmer - 3365
3. Russell Wilson - 3213
4. Matt Ryan - 3210
5. Drew Brees (15) - 3080
6. Tom Brady - 3060
7. Eli Manning - 2923
8. Ryan Tannehill - 2895
9. Ben Roethlisberger (12) - 2865
10. Philip Rivers - 2811
11. Aaron Rodgers - 2646
12. Matthew Stafford - 2620
13. Alex Smith - 2506
14. Jay Cutler - 2504
15. Andy Dalton (12) - 2292
16. Sam Bradford (13.5) - 2228

This is overall QB contributions. Numbers would be different without rushing yards or with the player contributing a full 16 games. Will post an adjusted ranking mocking a full 16 games based on per game averages.

Any questions?
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>>64760033
You're the cuckold who's constantly nut riding the negro qb so you tell me.
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>>64760065
Except they're right, dicklet
>>
lol taylor decker just went first overall in this fanspeak draft
i can't wait until we get actually realistic simulators of the draft in like april
>>
>>64758977
Thats what I was hoping for. He's gonna have to have a killer debut with all the free agents we have. Wonder what he's gonna want to do with Caldwell.
>>
Does anyone have a link to the big board drafty thing?
>>
so we all know this will be the first super bowl of both 6 seeds, right?
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>>64760127
right here

>>64742723
>>64742723
>>64742723
new thread btw
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>>64758977
>Lions
I am pretty excited about the hire. I think they will do a great job in management now. He is not a babby. He has been there 16 years with the team. It worked for other teams. I think it will be fun being a Lions fan.
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>>64760158
Was getting caught part of your plan?
>>
So who are your picks for the awards?

>ROTY
>DPOTY
>OPOTY
>comeback player
>MVP
>any other awards i'm forgetting
>>
Full 16 game projections.

1. Ben Roethlisberger - 3820
2. Andrew Luck - 3511
3. Cam Newton - 3373
4. Carson Palmer - 3365
5. Drew Brees - 3285
6. Russell Wilson - 3213
7. Matt Ryan - 3210
8. Tom Brady - 3060
9. Andy Dalton - 3056
10. Eli Manning - 2923
11. Ryan Tannehill - 2895
12. Philip Rivers - 2811
13. Joe Flacco - 2717
14. Peyton Manning - 2699
15. Aaron Rodgers - 2646
16. Sam Bradford - 2641

Honorable mentions:
Romo , Stafford, Smith, Cutler, Hasselbeck
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>>64760236
gurley
watt
peterson or palmer
palmer or berry
cam
droty is peters, oroty is gurley
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>Bucs are a mess and players are unhappy but at least it's entertaining
>Kenni finally coming out after a full season to hone his craft
>Evans finally fixed his hands
>David and McCoy playing livid as neither made all-pro this season, with Alexander playing livid because he had DROY stolen from him
>Brate supplanting ASJ
>draft will bring actual DE's and DB's to this team
>just got accepted to Uni to
There's no pleasure like being a Bucs fan.
>>
>>64760068

So this is numbers for how far the ball traveled through the air, plus a quarter of the yards after catch?


Remove QB rushing yards, im interested in how it looks then. I assume Palmer, Brees and Brady should be top 3.
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>>64759904
no wait


no
>>
The Cowboys will be the next Dynasty
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>>64760268
Don't forget it can and will be taken from you. Look at me. Perpetually drunk and out of school.
>>
>>64760268
>just got accepted to Uni to

damn I'm getting old, I forget most of the people I'm arguing can't even drink yet
>>
>>64760293
Tiki will drink a beer for every time he says that.
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>>64760326
Fucking kids I swear
>>
>>64760308
Why don't you just kill yourself man.

>>64760326
I'm 21. I was too depressed to apply during HS, and I'd threatened to shoot up my school too so it was doubtful that I'd be admitted anywhere anyway.
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>>64760326
don't forget you're here forever

who /25+/ here?
>>
>>64760284
Exactly, since the YAC:Yards thrown is actually increasing since the rule changes protect QBs and WRs more, forcing most defenses to play softer.

This allows the QB just credit for completing the pass and some of the credit for hitting a receiver open enough to gain yards. It's also almost consistent through the eras, which is better than passing yards.

>>64760352
You're alive!
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>>64760352
wow you sound like a real winner
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>>64760390
27 in march buddy
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>>64760438
Took me a minute to figure out your trip. Sadly.

>>64760447
I don't understand the purpose of this post/
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>>64760390
32 right here bruh. Been around since '12
>>
>>64760500
i don't understand why you haven't ended your life
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>>64760176
I know we say it every season but I sincerely feel good about next season but I think it'll actually mean something this time. William Clay Ford is dead. Lombardi is gone. We have a great DC and OC. A gm whom is likely to be confident, and a President who's an actual businessman.
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>>64760390
26 soon been on 4chan since 08
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>>64760534
I believe it's because I'm too passive, like a woman. My masculinity has become an increasing concern.
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>>64760390
Here fampai, and no end in sight.
>>
QB rankings, past has some weight but not all of it. Because Luck, Rodgers, and Peyton had such bad seasons, it's tough this season to rank everyone.

1. Tom Brady
2. Drew Brees
3. Ben Roethlisburger
4. Cam Newton
5. Aaron Rodgers
6. Carson Palmer
7. Russell Wilson
8. Peyton Manning
9. Eli Manning
10. Philip Rivers
11. Matt Ryan
12. Tony Romo
13. Andy Dalton
14. Andrew Luck
15. Alex Smith
16. Derek Carr
17. Kirk Cousins
18. Ryan Fitzpatrick
19. Blake Bortles
20. Jay Cutler
21. Tyrod Taylor
22. Joe Flacco
23. Marcus Mariota
24. Jamies Winston
25. Teddy Bridgewater
26. Ryan Tannehill
27. Sam Bradford
28. Bryan Hoyer
>29-32. shouldn't be starting QBs at all
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>>64760598
does anybody else remember when everyone was predicting Andrew Luck to be the best QB in the league, win the MVP and Super Bowl?

I can't say I miss those days
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>>64760598
Literal shit rankings
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>>64760598
>8. Peyton Manning
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>>64760637
>>64760637
>>64760637
new thread coming through
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>>64760598
>eli above rivers
>ryan above dalton
>ryan above cousins
>peyton not in the 20s
>bradford below bridgewater
at first i thought it was alright but it was actually terrible, nice
>>
>>64760598
>Dalton not even in top 10
>Romo in the top half
>past doesn't have a lot of weight
Doesn't add up.
>Flacco that low
;^)
>>
>>64760598
Oh lawd. Fuck that's bad.
>>
How the fuck is David Johnson not in the top 5 for ROTY?

DUDE HAS 13 TOUCHDOWNS!!
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F
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>>64760730
probably because he a has a very boring and common name
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>>64760730
Touchdowns for RB's are a meme stat.
>>
So what's with this fake thread linking? Is it the new hot maymay?
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>>64760755
I wasn't sure which F you meant so I hit one and the page refreshed.
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reminder that based James Jones has been elite outside of his mid season slump

TYBJJ
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>>64760730
probably because he had less than 150 yards rushing until the 12th game of the season
he's been fantastic this month, even won OROTM, but you have to play the whole season
>>
>>64760662
>Eli above Rivers
They're about equal, but Eli was having one of the best seasons of his career. I gave the edge to Eli for SB rings and that's all.
>Ryan above Dalton
>Ryan above Cousins
This is the only good season Cousins has ever had, but he's still behind in Yards compared to Ryan. Dalton is basically a lesser version of Matt Ryan right now, although this season has been good when he's been healthy.
>Peyton not in the 20s
Peyton has had a shit year, but so has Rodgers. Still the all fucking time leader in yards, and last week was clutch.

>>64760686
Dalton is a little overrated atm, my opinion. AJ McCarron kinda proves my point.
Romo is still one of the better QBs of the past 10 years, and last season he was top 10.
Flacco has been shit for like 3 years now, come on.

>>64760695
you do one
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>>64760284
This year's Top 5 without running.

Palmer - 3341
Ryan - 3147
Bortles - 3095
Brees - 3066
Brady - 2971
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>>64760795
Eli having the best season of his career and he is still a worse QB than Romo yet you have him above Romo

Romo is a Top 5 QB and your ranking is terrible
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>>64760781
>I wasn't sure which F you meant

exactly how many Fs do you have on your keybaord anon?
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>>64760781

F
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>>64760786
He is the second slowest nigger I know. Only topped by EDP
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>>64760838
there's 12 of them right in a row, man. I'm not even sure what all of them do.
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>>64760842
>34 posts early
>this fag
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>>64760853
he has good hands and ninja awareness
literally the only part of the packers offense that outperformed my expectations
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>>64760598
based off this past regular season alone. No past accomplishments.

1. Tom Brady
2. Cam Newton
3. Carson Palmer
4. Russel Wilson
5. Blake Bortles
6. Drew Brees
7. Aaron Rodgers
8. Derek Carr
9. Philip Rivers
10. Ben Roethlisburger
11. Andy Dalton
12. Kirk Cousins
13. Ryan Fitzpatrick
14. Eli Manning
15. Mathew Stafford
16. Tyrod Taylor
17. Jamies Winston
18. Matt Ryan
19. Alex Smith
20. Ryan Tannehill
21. Jay Cutler
22. Brian Hoyer
23. Sam Bradford
24. Teddy Bridgewater
25. Marcus Mariota
26-32. No one even worth listing
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>>64760885
>falling for this
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>>64760795
>I gave the edge to Eli for SB rings and that's all
...
rivers has a higher completion%, fewer interceptions, and a higher rating, all with a dumpster fire chargers team
he's also been a better QB his entire career
this is so retarded
>This is the only good season Cousins has ever had, but he's still behind in Yards compared to Ryan. Dalton is basically a lesser version of Matt Ryan right now, although this season has been good when he's been healthy.
cousins has 8 more passing touchdowns, 5 fewer interceptions, a higher comp%, better rating, higher ypa, and no julio jones
dalton is still second in rating, had a 25/7 td-int ratio, and was averaging like a full yard more per attempt than ryan
>comparing peyton's 9-17 td-int ratio to rodgers' 31-8
serious question lake: are you actually retarded?
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>>64760867
try hold alt down and pushing the 4th one.
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>>64760915
>5. Blake Bortles

IS BLAKE BORTLES ELITE?
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>>64760915
>ben that low

lol whats up super butthurt guy
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>>64760950
Rivers also has the shittiest OL in the league to work with. It's amazing he can do anything.
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>>64760598
Did you forget Stafford?
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>>64760981
butthurt? I fucking love Big Ben. But like I said this is based off this past season alone and he was hurt for a lot of it. Wouldn't be fair to list him much higher. I had to put him in the top 10 out of respect.
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>>64760959
Bortles had the best WR duo in the NFL with Robinson and Hurns.
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>>64760984
you now realize that this meme is used by fans of every single team in the nfl as an excuse for why their qb should be ranked higher than any other.
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>>64760959
yes

>4400+ passing yards
>35 TDs

And that's just his passing attack. The dude can run too. He had 310 rushing yards.
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>>64760959
>that double move
How did Allen Hurns go undrafted again
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>>64758804
>Kelvin Benjamin as a rookie had over 1000 yards and 9 touchdowns.
>Carolina offense is still #1 in the NFL
>Edelman out
>Patriots lose 4 of 6.
Seriously Saying it doesn't have an impact is lying. Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers have issues when their top targets are injured but Cam is playing his best football in his career when he has Ted Ginn jr, corey brown, and devin funchess as his top receivers.
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>>64761038
But, he legitimately has the worst OL in the league.
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>>64761025
>best WR duo
>not the jets with Marshall and Decker

Both had 12 or more TDs.
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Matt Ryan has been in the top 5 in passing yards in the following seasons:
>2015
>2014
>2013
>2012

And was in the top 10 the following seasons
>2011
>2010

But people pretend like he's shit. Why?
He's not 'elite' but he's objectively one of the most consistently good QBs in the NFL, no matter the players, schedule, or coordinator. I know it's because he's boring and all that but still.
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playoff QB rankings

1. Wilson
2. Palmer
3. Newton
4. Brady
5. Roethlisberger
6. Cousins
7. Dalton
8. Rodgers
9. Hoyer
10. Smith
11. McCarron
12. Osweiler
13. Manning
14. Bridgewater
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>>64761079
I like him and think he's good.
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>>64760986
ooooooooh shit that's who I forgot, anyways I meant to put him just below Flacco.
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>>64761079
>Yards

Ayy lmao do you want to try to tell me chuckers like Stafford are good too?
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Why is Bridgewater so scared to pass? He seems like he really wants to but is too afraid to throw more than 10 yards
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>>64761059
>Ted Ginn jr, corey brown, and devin funchess as his top receivers.

having the top scoring team in the nfl with these 3 as your top wide receivers.
cam confirmed as goat
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>>64761110

GET IN HERE!!!
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>>64761079
>passing yards
yet you left matt stafford off your list entirely and didn't put ryan tannehill in the top ten
can't you just accept that matt ryan was pretty bad this year? it's the truth
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>>64761081
hi espn!
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>>64761106
because he knows he sucks
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>>64761106
Besides the fact that he sucks, I think he was coached not to fuck up rather than make plays.
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>>64761094
Stafford was only in the top 5 like two seasons when Megatron was in god mode.

Ryan gets those yards with or without Julio/Roddy/Gonzalez/an OL/a RB/a good coordinator. For like 4 seasons in a row now he's been top tier.
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>>64760853
kek
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>>64761081
bretty good desu senpai
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>>64760842
Love this meme
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>>64761106
a man's gotta know his limitations
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>>64760915
>based off this past regular season alone
>1. Tom Brady
u avin a giggle m8?
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>>64761542
Top 3 in passing yards
most passing TDs
top 5 rushing TDs
fewest interceptions out of those with 30 or more TD passes
No one who threw for 4100+ yards this season had less than 11 TDs. Brady had 7.
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>patsfags getting salty as fuck
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who here /conflicted/?
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>>64760915
Pts fan here, Tom wasn't #1 this year. #2, tops.

1. Fallmer
2. Bradley
3. Jewton
4. Breezy
5. Popeye (pic related)
6. the guy in Jacksonville
7. >on the one-yard line
8. Rios
9. Aunt/Uncles' Kids
10. Harvard Man
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>>64761993
>more passing yards
>more TD passes
>FOUR less interceptions
>more rushing TDs

how is Palmer better than Brady? Brady was better in every category.
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