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GOAT thread!

>Soccer
Pele

>Basketball
Michael Jordan

>MMA
Anderson Silva or Jon Jones

>Boxing
Mike Tyson or Muhammad Ali

>Golf
Tiger Woods

>Running
Usain Bolt
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>they are all black
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>>48953100
>mike tyson
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>>48953206
That's usually where the talent is.
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>>48953100

>Football
Maradona

>The rest

Who the fuck cares?
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>>48953206
black people are more athletic than white people, but less intelligent as well. opposite for asians
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>>48953285
>Maradona
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>>48953366

Dude, you're American. Admit you don't know shit, you hotdog eating fuck.
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Sweet!! The cuckold thread!
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>>48953285
Almost every list ever made puts Pele as the greatest player of all time. Quit being an idiot.

>#1: Pele
http://worldsoccer.about.com/od/players/tp/Greatest-Soccer-Players-Of-All-Time.htm

>#1: Pele
http://www.ranker.com/crowdranked-list/the-best-soccer-players-of-all-time

>#1: Pele
http://www.theguardian.com/football/ng-interactive/2014/may/27/the-world-cups-top-100-footballers-of-all-time-interactive
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>listing sports that dont matter
>not listing GOAT sport NFL

lql
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>>48953206

>changchong
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>>48953385

>netherlands

Don't you have a nigger dick to take up the ass?
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>>48953355
Depends on the test. On tests designed by white people maybe, but probably on fairer tests black people score the same or higher. I can guarantee you black people have a much higher EQ. Look how many black geniuses there are in the music industry, they have totally dominated it for the last 50 years, and music is one of the most cerebral things you can do.
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>>48953404
>Thinking Pele could compete with Maradona
I'm glad Messi proved that the midget would still GOAT it up today
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwJh5fXIzkQ
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>>48953385
what's wrong with hotdogs?
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>>48953100
>Pele
>Muhammad Ali

bait.
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Tennis: Pete Sampras

Cycling: Eddy Merckx

Track Racing: Mario Andretti

Football: Joe Montana

Hockey: Gordie Howe

Track and Field: Jim Thorpe
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>>48953430
>Thinking a sport that only one country gives a dick about matters
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>>48953385
>the most unlikable "legend" of all time for obvious reasons is the greatest

for someone that thinks they know it all your opinion is shit
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>>48953100
>Fucking your mom

Me
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>>48953430

>NFL
>One player for every move.
>Players can only do one thing each.
>half the team are overweight
>Game stops every 8 seconds or less
Shit tier athletes.
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>>48953507
lel nice proxy yuropoor. either that you are a filthy spic. in that case go back to your shit country.
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>>48953100
>Anderson Silva or Jon Jones
Neither
Bas Rutten was more of a striker than jon jones and anderson was like mike tyson fighting cans until weidmen came and suddenly the middleweight division started getting more stars like luke rockhold , gegard etc...
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>>48953475
If Pele had been exposed to modern training techniques too, he'd blow them all out of the water.
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MMA, nah
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>>48953487
Common knowledge is now bait?
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>>48953475
>>48953285

Di Stefano was better shut your whore mouths now.
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>>48953100
>Soccer
Puskas
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>>48953527
see
>>48953475
GOATs don't have to be likeable, this isn't your pussy sport
>Maradona wins internet player of the century vote
>FIFA gets assblasted and decides to give it to Pele anyway
>Totti
>Roberto Carlos
>Zidane
>Maldini
>Raul
>All say Maradona was GOAT
Pele is the GOAT at making commercials trying to sell shit
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>>48953551
>Bas Rutten
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Great white OATS

>Tennis
Federer

>Baseball
Babe Ruth

>Ice Hockey
lel, I don't know and who gives a fuck, but I am certain he is white

>F1
Sebastian Vettel

>American Football
Joe Montana, Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Dan Marino, John Elway, Steve Young, Brett Farvre are all white. However Barry Sanders, Emmett Smith and OJ Simpson are all black.

>Swimming / olympics general
Michael Phelps
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>>48953622
>cheating scummy motherfucker on and off the pitch is the GOAT
no fuck off
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>>48953622
Pele is a legend. You are a fucking idiot. Name one other player who could score from halfway across the field like Pele did. That takes an insane amount of talent. A Messi or a Maradona can't hold a candle to that, they are just the flavor of the month.
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>>48953581

Just because something has been said over and over again for 50 years don't make it a fact.
Both those guys in their prime would get rekt by the most average of today.
Pele is considered a god because he was on a strong team and he got the most celebrity by showing his face everywhere and making a name for himself.
Ali is just known for shit-talking.
They were both good, but far from the GOAT
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>>48953506
>being this edgy
I bet you think George Forman is GOAT boxer and the simpsons is the GOAT tv show.
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>>48953545
MUUUUHHHH RUGBY

We play a glorified pick up game in the park.

NO PADS HURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR WERE SO TOUGH


kill urself
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>>48953506
>Hockey = Gordie Howe
Saying anything other than Gretzky is literally wrong
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>>48953700
>Sebastian Vettel

Lewis Hamilton is the F1 GOAT
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>>48953708
>Name one other player who could score from halfway across the field
David Beckham

BECKS IS NOW OFFICIAL GOAT, GREATER THAN MESSI, MARADONA AND PELE
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>>48953637
>fought in tougher competitions and no rules ufc era
>bigger and more experienced opponents
>undefeated throughout career
>practically created the liver shot and popularized body shots in the mma which fighters in the ufc to this day still dont take advantage of
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>>48953708
>score from halfway across the field like Pele did

link?
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>Soccer
Pele
>Basketball
Jordan
>MMA
GSP
>Boxing
Muhammad Ali
>Golf
Tiger Woods
>NFL
Jerry Rice
>Hockey
Great One
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>>48953733
>no greentext
>muh burger and fries
>muh Doritos
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>>48953472
>cerebral
>blacks
>music

When will it end!!!!!??????
Please /pol/ kill them all!!!!
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Sugar Ray Robinson is the GOAT

we've been over this
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>>48953712
Most people agree they are the GOAT. Doesn't make it less true just because you don't. Get your head out of your ass.
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In 607 matches played Puskas scored 592 goals. No one even close to him for GOAT
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>>48953707
>scummy unlikebale
who cares?
I'll the opinion of footballing legends to that of some assblasted kids on 4chan

>>48953712
Messi proved a little guy like Maradona wreck today
Meanwhile Pele would get schooled in the championship
Thank you Messi
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>>48953551
this is probably the most casual opinion I have evr seen on /sp/

way to how that you know absolutely nothing and are probably just parrotting something you heard on Joe Rogan's podcast
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>>48953795
Dont be mad because rugby is a silly game

>NFL players wear pads!!
Cuz they fucking need them. Game is 10x more violent that faggot rugby.

>MUHHHHHHHHHHHH TACKLES
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>>48953100
>Basketball
>MMA
>Boxing
>Golf
>Running
>relevant
top kek
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>>48953845

You're the only one talking about pads you insecure faggot.
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>>48953765
>fought in tougher competitions and no rules
Pfft, when Bas fought they weren't even allowed to hit each other with a closed fist, had to slap each other like pussies.

>Invented punching people in the body
Ok, you're an idiot.
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>>48953887
Its the typical response from kangaroo rapers such as yourself

No go eat some vegamite
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>>48953100

>Soccer
Timmy "Volley of God" Cahill

>Basketball
LeBron James

>Football
Richard Sherman

>Boxing
Manny Pacquio

>NRL
Jonathon Thurston

Easy choices really
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>>48953733
u sound insecure and butthurt
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>>48953877
>australians
>knowing anything about sports
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>>48953845
>Game is 10x more violent

It's 10 times more violent BECAUSE their wear pads and helmets to become a human cannonball.
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>>48953934
I would take you seriously if you werent French

Now run along before a german comes and takes your stuff
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>>48953922
>Basketball not Patty Mills
>Football not Sav Rocca
>Boxing not Kostya Tszyu

1/10 try again
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NFL:
Peyton Mang (eventually AGOD then Luck)
J Rice
Barry Sanders
Devin Hester
Deion Sanders
fuck everything else
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>>48953708
Every junior player can do that, go kick a ball
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>>48953969

Why do you wear pads?
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>>48953942
Wasnt always the case you non white subhuman
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>>48953942
And bc they are bigger stronger and faster. Rugby players can only be punters in the NFL
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>>48953809
Are you implying that Pele is a tall person? lel he's 1.73 meters, Messi is 1.69. There's just 4cm of difference.

Hell dude you went full retard here.
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>imagine Rugby players running a no huddle offense
>the butthurt that would result
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>>48953940
Australia is the sporting capital of the world m8
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>>48953990

>bigger
definitely (pic related)
>stronger
lel
>faster
definitely no
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>>48953740
Yzerman
Lidström
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>>48953995

Rugby players huddle?
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>>48953763
>>48953980
With a goalie in the box, dumbass.

>>48953766
Look it up jackass, it's one of the most famous moments in his career.
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Why do murrikans need to wear pads?
Is it cause they're pussies? I don't understand
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>>48953845
IF YOU TOOK OFF THOSE PADS WOULD YOU DIE?
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Are there people who actually believe that Pelé is not the GOAT of football?

You Ameritards impress me everyday with you lack of knowledge about football.
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>>48954031
Typical rugby playerzt
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>Boxing
yah, probably pele

>Basketball
Kareem or MJ

>MMA
GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYY

>Boxing
Ali, Tyson, or Robinson. Mayweather a shit

>Golf
Tiger or Palmer

>track and Field
Usain Bolt

>Football(US)
Montana, Rice, Walter Peyton, Sanders, Lott, and Bo jackson

>Baseball
Babe Ruth, Ty cobb, Mickey mantle, and Ted Williams
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>>48954117
that is fucking hot
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>>48954067
even GKs can do that

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMPPp_SjxPA
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>>48954081
Back in the 1900s players were literally dying on the field, the sport was at risk of being outlawed if they didn't wear protection, it has evolved ever since then
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>>48954117

Look like fit young gentleman-athletes to me
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>>48953100
>Hockey
Sydney Crosby
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>>48954144
>this is what Ameripigs actually believe

the players in the 1900s were dying because they were obese americans who worked in coal mines all day and shot each other at night
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>>48954031
Typical NFL player
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>>48953834
Doubtful, Joe Rogan literally jacks off to Anderson Silva. Even when Silva isn't fighting Rogan still won't shut up about how amazing he is. Fight between Diaz and Cerrone "Nobody can box like Nick Diaz, except maybe Anderson Silva, but Silva is a ninja". It never ends.
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>>48954144

They probably should have just had a tablespoon of cement, hardened the fuck up and got back out there. God what a bunch of pussies
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>>48954067

I seriously can't find it, but there are loads by other players.

Anyway, a goal from half-way is more indicative of a shitty GK sleeping on the job rather than the talent of the kicker.
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>>48954067
>Goal from midfield
>defining point of a goat

here have 5, courtesy of two seconds of google:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqTlfcA_HBA
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>>48954184

>far more accurate representation of typical nfl player
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>Pele
Dirty nigger. Even in the 80's he'd have sucked. When he was in his prime the game was slow as fuck and no one even tried to get to him. Also let's just say he'd fit on /tv/ perfectly
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>>48954115
Are there people who actually believe that Pelé is not the GOAT of football?

Just racists who can't accept the fact a black man was the greatest of all time at a sport they take refuge in being "predominantly white".
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>>48954264

Do you seriously not know how to greentext?
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>>48954234

Cry more, hermano.

Pelé >>>>>>>>>>>> Maracoca.
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>>48953506

>not saying gretzky
>not saying the guy that'd still be the points leader if he never got a goal in his entire career
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>>48954140
Pfft, he didn't beat the goalie with his shot like Pele did, the goalie is just a moron who tripped and fell down before he got into position.
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>>48954220
They represent 5 people that are on the field, and they can bench well over 500 lbs
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>>48953986
>>48953990

Let's all perform a thought experiment. Let's consider Wendell Sailor with NFL pads and helmet tackling Richard Sherman, or the other way around, Sherman in rugby kit tackling Sailor.
Who gets BTFO?

...Interesting
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>>48954067
Any young player can score from there with a goalkeeper in the box, you're retarded if you think otherwise. It takes zero skill and it is almost a cliche in crappy games (like most games Pele was playing in). Search "goalkeeper scoring goal" on YouTube and you'll even see goals scored from the other side of the field... I saw dozens of these in my life, as a spectator and as a player.
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>>48954284
>Maracoca
>so funneh!
Maradona is widely recognized as GOAT by actual players. Pele's a piece of shit dumb ape who only cared about money. Even your idols like Ronaldo, Roberto Carlos, Romario, etc. have never even acknowledged Pele and agree that Maradona is the GOAT
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>>48954328

But you have to take into account that NFL players are trained to do one thing only, whether it be running, tackling, blocking, throwing, kicking, etc. Rugby for the most part have to do a bit of it all, so you have to skip on the mass to be able to run fast enough.

Comparing is dumb.
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>>48953753
>>48953700

>Not Ayrton Senna

K americunts
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>>48954377
Scared
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>>48954366
I'd say there's a stronger argument for Ronaldo being GOAT than Pele.
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>>48954366
Maradona is shit. Puskas is goat, 592 goals in 605 matches
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>>48954430
Pls stop embarrasing yourself.
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>>48954123
Pele confirmed for best boxer of all time.
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>>48954471
Afraid of facts
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>>48954377
I mentioned those 2 players because they have similar size and speed. I'd never compare a scrum-half or fly-half against a DT or OT. You get the point, my kangaroo friend
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Daily reminder that Tiger will never win another major and thus has no shot at dethroning the true GOAT
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Regarding Pele, how can you be GOAT without having played for any European club? And it was a long time ago. Game was slow and soft, it had 5 forwards for 2 players in defense, and the images aren't impressive at all... Pele is overrated, early Ronaldo would have been ten times better than that in the 60's.
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>>48954471
Maradonut no where near those numbers
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>>48954123
>Pele is a boxer
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>>48954486
>literally every football expert says maradona is the greatest
>theres even a church of maradona
>some fat fuck on 4chan says otherwise

kill yourself
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>>48954123
dont know if I'd put Pele above Sugar Ray Robinson, Henry Armstrong or Harry Greb
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>>48954366

By Santos and Cosmos:
>1222 games
>1155 goals
>2 Libertadores
>2 World Tournaments

National Team
>95 games
>115 goals
>3 WCs


Look at the facts, bro.
Keep bragging about how people say that Maradona is the best, it will never be statistics.
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>>48954515
>literally every football expert says maradona is the greatest
...no
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>>48954515
>football expert
Numbers don't lie, almost averaging a goal a match is GOAT
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>>48954502
Also, Pele played with Garricha, Rivelino, Tostao, etc. True GOATS.
Maradona played with Ruggeri, Olarticoechea, Batista...
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>>48954547
>says the fat fuck on 4chan

kill yourself
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HELLO I'M HERE FOR THE /HEEM/
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>>48954574
you know that there's a debate atleast in which many 'experts' pick Pele, why are you even bothering to deny that, you kno it's true regardless of what you or i think
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>>48954574
So much anger, must be an abbo
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>>48954587

One more week until the next mma thread.

Life is suffering.
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>>48953940
not sure if trolling or just stupid.jpg
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>>48954686
TOMORROW HUE BRO TOMORROW

>WSOF
>GLORY with 2 TITLE Fights

a Britbro said he's starting the thread

it's gonna be a 2 in 1 thread
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>>48954005
australia doesn't exist in america though
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>>48953100
>Pele
o i am laffin
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>>48954566

the fifa generation everyone
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>>48954566
>>48954796

>Numbers don't lie

nah it's the E!SPN Generation Britbro
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>>48954796
>b-but he averaged .467 in throw-ins, .653 in corner kicks, and .579 in assists, he's gotta be the GOAT!
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>B-But muh penile dysfunction awareness
>B-but muh coke addiction

Almost every top football manager agrees that Messi is GOAT.
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Anderson "the spider" Silva
more like Anderson "spider leg" Silva

Though I'd say gsp for mma
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>>48954838
>system babby
>GOAT
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>>48954832
>forgetting his .458 tackling efficiency
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>pele
>maradona
>puskas
>messi
lol
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Gah, all the people who watched Pele play think he was the GOAT. Now those people are retiring/dying off, so the guys who watched Maradona play think he was better than Pele.In twenty years, it'll be the same with Messi.

No one will ever replicate what Pele did in terms of the World Cup, or likely his goalscoring record, even if you want to pick holes in that, so he has to be in the conversation, even if he is a bit of a bellend (>implying Maradona isn't a bigger one)
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>>48953506
Ski jumping: Matti Nykkanen
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>>48953100

>boxing
>not pic related
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>>48954925
>not Sugar Ray Leonard
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>>48954567
True, Maradona was the soul of his team, the needed one, the man who writes history all alone... while Santos and Brazil were fine without Pele. Look at Intercontinental Cup 1963: no Pele, but Santos crushes AC Milan twice in Rio. Now go imagine Napoli or Argentina without Maradona. It's like a body without its heart.
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>>48954883
Who is puskas?
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Anyone with a brain knows who the true GOATs are
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>>48954883

>Lose multiple CL finals
>Fail to make it out of 2002 WC group stage
>Shit goal and assist ratio

He wasnt even on Rivaldo's level nevermind those GOATs
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>>48954934

Robinson* you fucking pleb
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>>48953385
I actually think Johan Cruyff is the best

>mfw somebody calls me a nigger
>mfw somebody tells be to shut the fuck up before they tickle my anus with their big toe
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>>48953100
>Skiing
Michael Schumacher
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>>48954567
he played with Caniggia in 1990 though of course Caniggia didn't play in the REFBALL final
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>>48954960
'no'

>>48954965
hue

>>48954954
he was injured in 2002
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>>48954809
Implying goal scoring isn't relevant.
The stulidity is thick tonight
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>>48954967
Dude, are you saying that Caniggia is a GOAT tier player?
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>>48953100
I'd go with Georges St-Pierre or Fedor for the MMA part

For boxing, it's Sugar Ray Robinson

kickboxing: ernesto hoost or ramon dekkers
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I would say Larisa Latynina was the GOAT gymnast but Nadia Com?neci was the most iconic
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>>48954891
Goalscoring record in what era? Against what "glorious" teams? With how many Garrinchas around?
Is Just Fontaine also GOAT then?
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>>48954991
>comparing goal stats of a forward who played in the 60s with a playmaker who played in the 80s
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>>48954940
You get it, mon ami. Good thing we're not facing eachother in R16 ;)
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>>48954992
no but he's the best player Maradona played with during his prime in Argentina
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>all this people thinking Maradona isn't the GOAT in football

this thread gave me the giggles
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>>48953100
>Pele
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>>48955004
>ernesto hoost
GOT BTFO by Bobb Sapp TWICE

>GOAT
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>>48955024
Just Fontaine gets plenty of accolades fro his goals in '58, but he didn't score the winner in the QF, a hat-trick in the SF and two in the final. At the age of 17. Like I say, no one will ever match that; Pele just exists in a different stratosphere to everyone else in the WC.

And like I said, you can pick holes in his goalscoirng record if you want, but it's still unmatched, both in modern times and n his own era, so he must have been doing something right.
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>being so ignorant in that Euro teams were more or less equal to SA teams in the 60s

The athleticism is ridicuously exaggerated as well

Pele was incredible on his own, basing him off his teammates is total disrespect to Pele and the sport
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>>48955070
fuck, you're right. i dont know who the kickboxing GOAT is
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>>48954123
I don't think any of those baseball players would have done what they have done if blacks were allowed in the league.
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>>48954953
This. Everyone else can fuck off and die
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>>48954954
>Pele only played in semi-shitty confederations: easier to avoid losing CL finals
>Zidane was injured in 2002
>Zidane was not a forward, thus your stats are irrelevant
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Is there anybody else on this thread that thinks a defender could be the best footballer?
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>>48953506
How the fuck is Sampras ahead of Fed?
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>>48953404
I don't think he was more skilled than current age players, but you can't argue against his numbers. They are fucking insane.
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>>48955171
No lol

If you're the best footballer on your team, you don't play in defence.
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>>48955110
That's very racist and shortsighted considering an overwhelming majority of the best players in baseball were playing in the MLB already
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>>48955158
>>48954954
>>48954883
>mfw there's actually people who think shitty stats define the GOAT

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrOLGifnMJk
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>>48955203
Beckenbauer
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>>48953765
He wasnt undefeated...
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>>48955219
Muller
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>>48955203
Sergio Ramos m8
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>>48954430
Wilimowski is the unknown GOAT
>scored four goals against Brazil on 1938 World Cup
>21 goals in 22 matches for Poland
>13 in 8 for Germany
>112 in 86 for Ruch Chorzów
>1175 goals total
>played hockey competively
>scored 10 (ten) goals in one match in Ekstraklasa
Greatest Of All Time
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>>48955158

Pele has THREE World Cup titles. And for an attacking mid Zizou rarely ever set his teammates up for goals
>>
ITT
>summer
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>>48955236
>3 WC titles

One he was injured for, and another one he was outshined by Garrincha.
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>>48955211
You're completely right, I apologize. But,
I wonder if those players would be as good as they were if other races were allowed to play in the same league. Just like people saying pele isn't the best because he didn't play in Europe. He proved them wrong since he won 3 world cups playing against some of the best euro teams.
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>jordan
>mma a sport
>boxers with losses
>running a sport
lelan
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>>48955280
How is MMA not a sport?
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>>48953700
>Because 4-timing a championship because of your team and not caring about your teammate makes you good at f1.

You're fucking retarded.

I'd rather chose Jean Alesi over Vettel any day.
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>>48955225
>>48953765

He wasn't undefeated and he arguably lost against Kevin Randleman during UFC 20
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>>48955229

Muller was not better than Beckenbauer
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>>48955218
WTF did i just watch?
>Zinedine Zidaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannnnnneeeeee
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>>48955232
Jewsus Christ. Not Ramos, maybe Maldini, Ramos is not the best on Madrid.
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>>48955272
Garrincha outshone him when he was injured
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>>48955316
You're right. Beckenbauer is an exception, but then he got as much acclaim for his attacking work as his defensive work.

If he was just a straight up defender and not a revolutionary, he'd just be Moore/Baresi/Maldini/etc-tier.
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>>48953435
Ayy that ebin m8
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>>48955353
He basically won la decima. How is he not the best man on Madrid right now?
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>>48955358
Screw you
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>>48954809
>muh intangibles
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>>48955272
True he was injured in 62 and Garrincha became a legend in that one. Thats one tho. He shone in 58 and in 70 the whole squad was just on another level. And he played before pks and red cards. He got no protection like todays playere and couldve score tons more goals

As great as Zizou was he was not on O Rei's level
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>>48953285
>Maradona
best handball player more likely
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>>48955451
>an Estonian's opinion on football
I hope that's a proxy
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>>48955483
>hating on based estonia
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>>48953700
>emmit smith
>not walter motherucking payton
Educate yourself
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>>48953506

I'm an American, and even I know that Gretsky is the greatest hockey player, by far. there is zero comparison. In fact Gretsky may be the most dominant athlete ever, considering all great athletes and their respective sports.
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>>48954366
>"I told myself before the game, 'he's made of skin and bones just like everyone else'. But I was wrong.”

Tarcisio Burgnich, the Italy defender who marked Pele in the Mexico 1970 Final

>“The greatest player in history was Di Stefano. I refuse to classify Pele as a player. He was above that.”

Ferenc Puskas

>“When I saw Pele play, it made me feel I should hang up my boots.”

Just Fontaine

>“You may be right. But you know nothing about football and I’ve seen Pele play.”

Vicente Feola to the psychologist who said Pele was too immature to play at Sweden 1958

>“Pele was the only footballer who surpassed the boundaries of logic.”

Cruyff

>“I sometimes feel as though football was invented for this magical player.”

Sir Bobby Charlton
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>>48955382
Benzema is the best in my opinion, but that's maybe just because he's French. If you think Ramos is the best go ahead, he is a great player.
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>>48954166

NFL has forward passing duh.

I would gladly watch and accept Rugby if they allowed forward passing.

but instead it looks like a bunch of retards trying to hump a doorknob.
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>Football
Cristiano Ronaldo

>The rest

Who the fuck cares?
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>>48954496

pretty much.

sad story about tiger. personal issues wrecked his career.
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>>48955621
What's sad about it? Cunt ruins his own career by continually being a cunt. Heaven forfend.
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>>48953551
>>fighting cans
>Vitor
>Dan Henderson
>All American Sonnen
you having a giggle m8?
>>
Do we only look at stats, or do we also have to consider how good/athletic/talented a person was?

For example, Tom Brady is up there (I don't think he's actual QB GOAT), but Dan Marino is without a doubt a more complete/better qb, he just doesn't have the wins/actual resume to back up being the GOAT other than his stats.

Same thing in hockey, I understand why Gretzky's the obvious GOAT but even he would tell you that Lemieux is easily the most skilled/talented without looking at stats/championships etc.

Is there a certain benchmark for actual numbers/records to be reached where actually skill/talent can supplant someone with more championships etc?
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>Football
Cruyjff or Zizou
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>>48955755
>mfw I read this :-))
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>Pele over Maradona

As much as I may despise Argentina, anyone thinking Pele is better than Diego is an innocent guy brainwashed by FIFA's jewery.

First of all, Pelé's stats were never confirmed and most people suggest that they count goals since he started playing footy in a park.

Second, Pelé always had a team to rely on. Tostao, Rivelino, Zagallo, Jairzinho, Didí, Garrincha, Carlos Alberto... yet when it was his time to lead the team (England '66) he pussied out of it. Nigga wasn't even a man to wear the captain's armband.

Third, Pelé whole function in the game relied on getting assists from playmakers. He couldn't generate any game on his own.

Fourth, the nigger never tested himself in Europe, and when he became a greedy nigger he went to fucking USA.

Maradona symbolizes the entire opposite. He's the living incarnation of the one-man, heroic man, team. He excelled in pretty much any club he played, and his whole figure was extremely moralizing. He was the true playmaker, and until this day, and probably forever, he'll be recognized as the only player who won a World Cup on his own. Diego was a star in Barça and chose to move to the poor team of Napoli, just because, in his words: "They feel football the same way I feel it". He didn't only brought the team to glory, it was also a extremely social change about the rich northern Italy (Inter, Juventus, Milan) playing against the working, humble people of the south, who found in Maradona a hero that represented the values of true passion for the game and your colours, making money a dull thing.

EVERYTHING about Maradona's life is poetic. I don't like the fact that he became a cocaine addict, nor I'd start rooting for Argentina because of him, but the legacy he left us and his whole career, carrying ANY team in his back while giving his best, puts him beyond any other player that will ever live.
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>>48956184
only person in this thread who watches football
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>>48954315
>bench as a strength threshold
>not squat or DL
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>>48953956
>US
>hting on France
Should have stayed a british colony then.
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>>48954965
Not Sonny Bono
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>>48953100
>Boxing
Lennox Lewis, Roy Jones Jr, Joe Calzaghe, Sugar Ray Leonard

>Soccer
Don't forget the Brazilian Rinaldo in the 90's

>MMA
You have to include Lesnar, Cotoure and Lidell

>Running
Don't forget Michael Johnson
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>>48953472
>americans
>not cuckies the lot

pick one
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>Football
Maradona

>The rest

Who the fuck cares?
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>>48956184
I like you

also, not only he won a WC on his own, even 2 scudettos against GOAT Milan and GOAT Juve, ON HIS OWN
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>>48953285
>retired
>relevant
pick one
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>>48953472
black people are better with rhythm
white people are more melodic
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Begkamp was a much better footballer than Pelle and could do things with the ball that huehue couldn't even dream off. Fuck the whole overrated ETERNAL GOAT NO ONE CAN COMPARE seventies generation (yes including muh Cruijff).


Also it's frightening to see how cuckold America really is.
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>>48967986
idiot
>>>/pol/
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>>48955218
What the fuck did I just watch?
>THAT HEADBUTT
I almost chocked on laughters.
Absolutely brilliant video.
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