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>>74625067
So he's getting cut

>>74626720
Yep

>>74625067
>Browns are playing 4D chess
>"The Browns will still make a run at Patriots backup quarterback Jimmy Garoppolo, league sources say"
browns are incapable of anything more than tic tac toe

>>74624843
Patriots 19-0

>>74624856
Wow fpbp

>Patriots signed DE Lawrence Guy, formerly of the Ravens, to a four-year, $20 million contract.

>Patriots signed DE Lawrence Guy, formerly of the Ravens, to a four-year, $20 million contract.

>Patriots signed DE Lawrence Guy, formerly of the Ravens, to a four-year, $20 million contract.

>>74621169
Clearly Brady

>>74621169
peyton sucks ass dude, guy choked 90% of the time

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>>74621169
We've bee over this.

>>74621106
>I'm ed woodward I want to buy paul pogba
>it'll be 40m
>ok, ok, I give you 120m
>deal

''trust me''

>and I'll need some of Bobby Robson's dirty laundry
>none of your business that's why

he did. that's how he fell in love with BBC.

I'm a pretty open minded liberal. Why does this guy make me sick?

>>74619499
She's beautiful. Who is she?

i been reading some rumors about floyd going broke

>>74618918
Are you sure you read them? Are you sure it wasn't...nothing?

Khabib and Ferguson on suicide watch

>>74618934
family guy lol

can i get a rapid synopsis on these guys?

>>74618596
They look weird so they became a meme

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Left has done more for his team

Right has done more for himself

>>74618234
>Westbrook
>having a team

It's basically Westbrook and a bunch of overgrown manchildren in OKC. He's had to carry them

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>>74618142
>Westbrook or Harden

I'll get it out of the way right up top: I want Wenger to stay. Even if you want nothing more than for him to leave, please try and read this with an open mind.

My feeling is that a lot of people are looking at things in a kind of skewed way that doesn't really make any sense, and it's effecting their judgement when it comes to Arsene. There are a lot of people who are saying that Wenger's time is up, and that he's taken us as far as he can. I would argue that this is the first season where that fact looks possible, or even arguable, but I think it's pretty naive to just assume that it's the case.

I would say that apart from this season and last season, Wenger has pretty much consistently overachieved as our manager, and I think most people in the clear light of day would agree with that. It's kind of hard to argue with the facts: given our budgets he did an unbelievable job to stay in the top 4 all those years and to keep us competitive enough for our fans to (somewhat understandably) feel entitled to league titles. The "victim of his own success" cliché is very much true in my opinion, if we hadn't come so close so many times during the barren years, people probably wouldn't have grown so frustrated, and people probably wouldn't look at the last couple of years (which have admittedly been similar) as being all a part of the same thing.

There are so many ifs and buts, and people always say this is in a sort of anti-Wenger way, like "there's all these ifs and buts and excuses, but top managers and elite players just win stuff!" The fact is, no matter what illogical lens you want to look at it through, the ifs and buts are totally valid.

We've had:

One of the worst injury records of any premiership club.

Financial constraints.

Pretty terrible home support.

Very bad atmosphere amongst fans and poor attitude towards the manager (which has been for about ten years, not just the last two.)

>>74617406
The first of those points: the injuries. One could argue that they are Wenger's fault, I'm not sure about that. None of really know why we get so many injuries, everybody seems to have an opinion but quite honestly to me it seems like something that is probably just out of his hands. Arguably the club (including, but not limited to Wenger) should have done something sooner, but it seems like we are now making some progress in that regard (although still with some pretty terrible luck in terms of which players get the most injuries.) Imagine how the last couple of seasons could have gone if Cazorla wasn't injured all the time. We look unbelievable with him in the side. YES we should have other options, YES we should be more flexible, but the fact is that we have had a ridiculous amount of these injuries to cope with and sometimes you just aren't going to be able to find an instant solution, especially when you haven't had the luxury of years of the requisite financial clout to just throw money at every problem you have as a club.

Number two: the financial constraints. I've already covered those a bit, but the part I would like to add is the fact that people keep pointing out that we spent 200m over the last 3 seasons, but neglect to acknowledge the fact that we are spending that because of the ridiculous amount of holes that have accumulated during our period of spending fuck all and having to sell all our best players (unfortunately we haven't had our two best players go to Madrid like Spurs have, we got absolutely fuck all for most of our big names). Our net spend over the last 5 years has been half that of Manchester City (who were already spending huge before that) and far lower than Uniteds. .Prior to the last 5 years or so we were right down the bottom in terms of net spend. Another issue is that we haven't been competing with the big clubs for long and so it's harder to attract top talent.

>>74617417
Third and final: the terrible home support and incredibly negative attitude of some fans over the last 10 years. Whilst this isn't all fans, it has undeniably had a massive effect. The negativity has been going on since long before it's even been arguable whether or not Wenger was overachieving. People have been complaining like mad, booing players, whinging every time something doesn't go our way. The fact that for about 10 years there has been talk of whether or not Arsene would keep his job is a testament to a.) people being incredibly ignorant of the work he's done, and b.) the board essentially using him as a scapegoat and waiting until after the financial constraints were (sort of) lifted before properly informing the fans of what went on during the stadium rebuild

This negativity has undeniably carried over, and a squad that only recently should begin having expectations of winning major honours has instead been burdened with 10 years worth of build up frustration and animosity from fans. Wenger and the players were never given the clean slate that they deserved. People say they want him gone based on the last 2 years, but it's pretty obvious that the last 2 years are lumped in with the 10 or so before that and effect people's judgement. The same people who have been moaning for the last 10 years expect to be taken seriously when they update it with "but we've spent money recently!" The phrase "broken clock" comes to mind and it kind of makes it impossible to take their emotions fully seriously. The people yelling on AFTV might for the first time have a point that approaches some semblance of sanity or rationality, but even then it's something that's up for debate and that we should all be thinking a bit harder about. It's also impossible not to think "where the fuck have you guys been for the last 10 years?" Most of these people have been whinging like toddlers for that whole time and now are demanding to be taken seriously.

yup

>*,*,*,Seahawks should have won, falcons should have won

This is how clear thinking adults see the cheats "dynasty".

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>>74621935

All this mad

>yfw they threepeat
>yfw Brady has seven rings
>yfw he would have NINE rings if it weren't for Eli Manning

>>74616197
this is it buddy. brady turns 40 this year. get ready for noodle arm.

>>74616306

He is younger at 40 than most QBs are at 33. Guy is in unfathomably good shape.

Plus he'll have two of the leaders in YAC.

based chelis on sportcenter

>Not using scab refs
Why isn't our southern neighbor like our southern states

Is Mexico the league where a ref sent off like 3 players yesterday?

>cheatriots

ultimately his career will be tainted by spygate, deflategate and trump support and being a glorified pawn to the real genius Beli.

long term he won't go down as the greatest.

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>>74614848
a fucking leaf.

>championship game decided on a coin toss.

nice sport you got there amerifats.

>coin toss championship decided on a game

nice amerifats you got there sport

[unclever post]

Knights

Souths

Raiders

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who /yvonne/ here

Matt Scott tore his ACL lads.