i have free will. my brain is a product of god and thus can do supernatural things like violate causality. my decisions are like a light switch that can turn itself on with nothing turnibg it on...... ... ... NOT!!!
There is nothing which can be called as "free will". If exist, one can perfectly control one's mind, behavior, motivation, and life with it. But this does not hold. We are just animals who have no such a thing like "free will" and merely driven by instincts, circumstances, fears and own weaknesses.
>>7856119 This is what I've been told my whole life. Couldn't we just be heavily influenced by the past, but still be able to pull off random actions every now and then? not trying to troll, it's just i'm not very enlightened on this.
>>7856119 you're making a false dichotomy between no free will and complete control.
I would argue that if there is even one decision you get to make of your own accord that it is enough to be counted as free will.
>We are just animals who have no such a thing like "free will" and merely driven by instincts, circumstances, fears and own weaknesses. this is just ignorant. if there is no free will then why do I feel like I have it? why am I experiencing things? I make decisions all the time and now you're telling me this is all an illusion (who is seeing this illusion?) and I am acutally a bunch of chemicals. this is denial of the first order.
That is a misconception. Please more carefully observe your mind or your "inner space". You must she there are many dynamics or "small wills" like "I'm hungry" or "I have to go to bed". My point is that, there is no consistent uniform will, and our will or decisions are just the results of the "tug of war" among these forces. Very simple and understandable. Our mind is just a phenomenon, nothing is different from the streams of rivers or clocks composed of gears. There are causes, mechanism, and results, nothing more in our mind. What other things you can find?
Sometimes, we "come up with" some thoughts or wills which seems to be out of order from the stream of cause and results. But, if you investigate carefully the thoughts or wills, you will see they are also the results of some causes like what you see yesterday or the dreams you had last night.
Clearly, our mind is evolving based on the law of the cause and result. The mechanism is relatively complex but I don't feel that our mind is completely different from other phenomena or machines we see in the world, like, the streams of rivers or the clocks made of gears. Of course, there are many randomness in the process, but involving randomness is nothing special, even computers can do that employing random variable generators.
by the way if anybody here used to follow physics forums im the princeton drug addict who trolled them all with the reality that we arent fundamentally different from a burning flame/we are free flowing chemical reactiuons doing what we do... each chemical rxn in our body does not decide what to do... everything in our body is reacting with the first thing it can
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