>Like, when will I ever need to know [insert basic mathematical/scientific concept here]?
This makes my blood fucking boil. What else do dullards say that offends you beyond any reasonable measure?
>>Like, when will I ever need to know [insert basic mathematical/scientific concept here]?
>This makes my blood fucking boil. What else do dullards say that offends you beyond any reasonable measure?
I generally don't get angry when people say stupid shit.
also, if you can't provide an example on how the subject they're complaining about has practical applications you don't have a right to put yourself on a high horse
and no there really aren't people like that in uni. you are underage
Not him but we don't even have a separate honors calc course at my school. The only programs that they really advertise at my school are engineering and nursing, so the other departments get a little neglected.
In highschool I had to take a lot of easy math clases just to graduate
I spent like 4 semester sitting around in clases I could probably have taught.
People would ask the wrong questions that show they don't get the big picture, and the teachers would attempt to answer them every time.
I feel like math clases in highschool could benefit from forcing the math teachers to improvise more, and spend some time teaching non common core lessons
Why does it make you mad?
I agree that most of my friends from high school will never need to know how or why to use integration/differentiation, or how to take the cross product of a vector field, etc.
Its a legitimate concern if they don't actually need to ever know it
im a physics major but here's my blog about my "experience" with honors freshmen calc (actually when I entered uni I was engineering, whether this reinforces the point or not is up to you)
>2 semesters of condensed calc 3, linalg, and odes (relatively proof-based, freshman level anyway)
>have to have up to calc 2 AP/IB credit, 800 math SAT and subject 2 test or something like that
>be me, have said stats, have interest in doing mature, rigorous maths
>hear horror stories about people I knew (2 years older than me) who were the "genius, math team" type who went into that class the first semester and barely scraped a C
>pussy out, end up taking the regular track
>later find out that they those guys were literally "smart but lazy" meme personified; they didn't really care about rigorous math, were actually total potheads (even during hs)
>years later I realize taking that track would have made my 4-year plan so much smoother
>realize I really enjoy the rigors of higher math
>im still too much of a pussy to even think about doing mathematical (rigorous, potentially meme) physics for grad school and further
Not OP but the thing that makes me mad about people saying it is that it's really not necessary. Like yeah, of course you won't need to know it because you'll never have to know it, but there were plenty of people that do had to know it to make sure you could do things like update your Facebook on a consistent basis. I could make the same quips about not needing to know something about pretty much whatever they're studying, but not needing to know something usually isn't a good excuse for not learning it so I try to engage with disciplines outside of my own to a degree.
Indeed, it is quite frustrating that the lesser minds only pertain their interests to celebrity gossip! Such dumb sheep while I use my brilliant mind to explore questions of the universe and work on my high level maths homework. If only the rest of the plebs in the world understood it as do I.
"Take a bag. For every positive integer, place a ball with that integer written on it in the bag. For every tenth ball you place in the bag, remove the ball in the very bottom. How many balls will be left in the bag at the end?"
he's somewhat right. most of them get filtered by sophomore year and drop out.
college attrition rates are horrendous. most people figure out by year 3 that secondary education is more than just a sum of its classes. it really does build your mind, even the shit classes you hate (especially the shit classes you hate).
educated people separate themselves from the uneducated. its an entirely different social strata.
You won't know when it will be useful until you learn it. What you learn is like a set of tools. You won't know when to use a hammer if you don't know how hammers work. Then when you could use a hammer to build something you will just stand there and have no clue. Just focus on learning as many tools as possible and then you will slowly learn how to see which tool fits each new work.
I have to take it as well as analysis courses.
I put the pure in brackets since it's a bachelors in mathematics, but I take more pure courses whenever I can, so the course does require a couple applied courses instead of just algebra/topology/analysis/etc.