Is engineering physics a meme? I heard people go in there and

>>7841238
>finance slave

You make it sound like a bad thing.

>>7841238
>Is <subject I don't approve> of a meme?
Is OP a massive fucking faggot? Evidence points towards yes

>>7841244
It's not that I do not approve of, but i heard from fellow friends and relatives that it is that way, generally either be a full physicist or a full engineer, no one wants a jack of all trades.

>>7841238
Bump

>>7841238
Bump

>>7841250

its not so much a jack of all trades as an elite discipline as far as im aware

the eng phys people at the school i went to had to maintain a 3.8 gpa to graduate. that means they had to beat the electrical engineers and the physics people they took courses with.

>>7841238
>Chicago
I thought they didn't have engineering.

>>7841320
That isn't my school though, just a picture i have on my computer from a previous thread.

>>7841238
Do the thing you like to do. If you really care for money do some fucking business not just become some glorified peon.

>>7841238
>Is engineering physics a meme
Yes. It's a watered down joke major which tricks guilible kids into thinking their doing real engineering or real physics.

>>7841312
also my school was a good one. with law and medicine faculties.

>>7841238
You'll defintely have a far better chance of getting a job in the aerospace industry with a mechanical engineering degree if that's what you're asking, but yes for aero you generally need a masters at a good school, though B.Eng. Mech/Aero can land you a job too if you have good internships/references.

>>7841312
>that means they had to beat the electrical engineers and the physics
They beat them because they only took intro courses from either while EE/physics had a ton more course work and more difficult senior level classes.

>>7841354
So switch to engineering physics?
Y/N
Switch to Mechanical Engineering?
Y/N
Stay in Physics?
Y/N

>>7841335
>He thinks business and commerical degrees
>For money

This is why "do what you love" fuckwits should never hand out advice. Go suck on your hipster boyfriend's latte you retard.

>>7841360
Would you into women studies?

>>7841356
N
Y/
Y

>>7841361
It pays about as well as business degree graduates get. Less, but in the same tax bracket.

>>7841362
what do engineers even research in grad school Ph.D. Programme anyways? I get the impression they're just airplane architects.

>>7841354
i dont really consider 3rd/4th year intro level courses
also the senior level courses were definitely not more difficult. more in depth, but not more difficult. the 2nd/3rd year courses are where most of the weeding out happens.

>>7841369
Aero engineers most do research thermofluids/CFD, material science etc. , but it largely depends on the department.

There's a shitton of research to do on the applied side, most theoretical pure models do not resonably translate to reality mostly due to complexity; you're not just trying to solve the Navier-Stokes coupled with a non-ideal EOS coupled the actual chassis/part you're trying to design (which is to say you're also trying to optimise this design). So you don't try to solve it, you simulate, which is another field of research on its own .

>>7841372
Your senior courses felt easier to you because you were more developed. Imagine if instead of new in-depth material you did similar work to your sophomore/junior courses expanded laterally only. It be hard not to get an easy 4.0.

>i dont really consider 3rd/4th year intro level courses
All undergrad courses are pretty much intro level except for design courses (courses not the projects) and things like QM II/ Stat. Mech. II etc.

>>7841360
Shut up dickwad. What I said is true and I don't care about your bullshit opinions.

>>7841238
If you just get a bachelor's in engineering you're no better than a finance slave, except you'll be making less trying to improve efficiency by a fraction of a percent of a single component in CAD. My point is, if you want to do anything hands on, experimental, and interesting you're going to have to get a graduate degree

>>7841387
Mad? ;^)

>>7841320
We just got a molecular engineering program.
It's the beginning of the end for pure science / liberal arts universities desu.
Soon every university will be a trade school in some capacity.

>>7841354

>muh discipline is more hardcore than yours hur dur

>>7841312
>3.8 gpa to graduate
What the fuck does that mean?
That sounds like a grade inflation hell hole.

>>7841394
OP. This.
I am a mech eng. 394 is correct.

>>7841434
it means the electrical engineers and physics people needed a 2.7 gpa to stay in the program, and the eng phys people needed a 3.8 (maybe it was a 3.7, cant remember). i think the math phys, comp phys, and honours phys needed a 3.3. i had to work my ass off for my lowly 3.0 specializing in physics.

i remember the eng phys people were pretty damn good and they made up about 10% of every class.

what is grade inflation?

>>7841672
>what is grade inflation?
You just described.

The minimum should be 2.0 which should also be near the average grade. Your university's courses are a joke.

>>7841385
everything was on the curve where i went to school so you had to be the best to get a 4.0. it didnt matter what the material was.

could be that the eng phys didnt have to take qm II/stat mech II. i didnt need to to specialize in physics. definitely the more rigorous physics degrees had to take those courses tho, but like i said, there was less weeding out by 4th year, so id think it would be less challenging overall.

the eng phys people were still smart as fuck.

>>7841687
no need to start insulting. the class average was listed next to your grade on my transcript.

seems lame that whereever you went to school, half the students got C- or less. but i guess systems vary from place to place.

1) UoC doesn't have an eng school
2) yes its a meme
3) study math if you're at u o c senpai

>>7841734
Read: >>7841330

>>7841312
>3.8 GPA to graduate
That doesn't really tell you anything about their employment opportunities. I, like OP, am interested in what jobs actually hire people with engineering physics degrees. Intuitively it seems like they would be less desirable than a specialist engineer or a specialist physicist.

>>7842513
Let me put it to you this way OP.

Imagine you were running an engineering consulting firm or an R&D department and you need a specialist to supplement theoretical knowledge in your engineering team.

Are you going to hire an EP or a real physicist?

Same thing with if you have a theoretical team and need an engineer to design a reactor, you're going to hire the real enigneer not the EP.

The multi-disciplinary "disciplines" don't fill a unique niche and knows less than people who are actually from the field. This is also things like Mechatronic degrees are pointless.

>>7842898
Let's put it this way, no firms are gonna hire physicists, I may as well be an engineer cause either
1) Academia
2) Post Grad
3) Finance
If 1 doesn't work out, 2 and 3 sucks, although 3 may earn me fuck tonnes of money, but i'm gonna hate myself

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Got accepted to UoC. I plan on keeping the girlfriend LDR and study math there. How does that look like?

>>7842981
Probably you'll find a hotter and smarter one and dump her, happens man.

>>7842952
You will almost never need one, but there are two reasons to hire a physicist.

First for example when you need an extra hand on typical grunt/assistance work; code/lab monkey duties, technical report writing/assistant etc. and it would be too expensive to hire an engineer for that job. Your options are freshly minted engineering graduates who will leave you in 2 years if you don't bump their salary, or more experienced science bachelor graduates in chemistry, physics etc. Generally you hire chemists for lab monkeys and physics for code monkeys since they are the only other major that comes close to understanding the basics of modelling and (numerical) optimisation.

Secondly when you need someone with specialist knowledge for a long term project beyond a typical consultation period. That's generally PhDs specialised in the field (with their undergrad being irrelevant).

The point is not place for EPs and they are worse off that physics graduates going into physics grad-school.

>>7841717
What school?>>7841734

>>7841238
>posts uchicago on engineering thread
top kek

>>7841409
what hume did you take, lad?

>>7843060
>engineering thread when OP's major is Physics

>>7843069
>implying that regardless of the intended topic of a thread, the thread's topic becomes inextricably related to the OP's major.

>>7843074
Are u saying its not?
No engineer hijack pls

You will die broke and alone, OP.

Always major in engineering for undergrad because you'll legally be allowed to take the license exams to become an engineer. Plus you can always go to grad school for physics and math. You can't do this if you were in pure science going to engineering.

>>7841238

At the bachelor's level, the advantage of engineering physics is breadth; you can apply to more internship opportunities for both physics and engineering, and have an easier time getting into both physics and engineering graduate fields if you're interested in that. Remember that specialization, even at your bachelor's stage, will really come from the nature of the work you do at internships rather than what it says on your degree. I know this from experience.

For graduate school, it's useful since it opens up the amount of faculty positions you can apply to and the nature of the research you can perform. Businesses will again really only focus on the nature of your research, and you can work on problems that most engineers can't do alone (i've had this happen very often at jobs, they'll need a mech.e who knows about electromagnetic fields or interaction cross-sections). It's more efficient for them to hire one person that can do both things instead of two to do it in a team.

>>7841238
look nigga, engineering isn't about your degree, its about what you can do.

do you belong to a professional organization? (if you like mechanical stuff join ASME, etc)

did you get some internships?

MOTHERFUCKING SOFTWARE SKILLS

Solidworks/CATIA/NX for CAD
Abaqus, ANSYS for CFD and FEA.

just knowing how to do some CFD and FEA will land you a job ffs.

the title of your degree is irrelevant as long as its ABET accredited and you can get your stamp sometime down the line.