3 years ago, /sci/ helped me write a paper for my undergraduate class in proteins.
I've since graduated with a BS in biochemistry.
I am deeply saddened to see the state /sci/ is in currently.
It's even more troubling because I came back in hopes to pay it forward.
However, it seems this is no longer the board it once was.
Not op but the quality of /Sci/ has definitely taken a plunge in the past couple of years. It might be because the board is more active today than it was in the past (seeing threads 404 in a day was incredibly rare even as recently as two years ago, now it's a frequent occurrence) but it's certainly true that there's more shit posting now than ever before.
Am I alone in saying that /r/science is too... formal? I dunno, /sci/ has been pretty bad lately with all the shit-posting, but something about the "community" of /sci/ is very endearing to me.
Being on /r/science is like going to a meet and greet with fellow scientists you don't really know, where you kind of smile and pretend to be interested in what other people are saying.
Being on /sci/ is like cracking a beer with your most racist, opinionated friends and shit-talking about science and maths while you get hammered. I much prefer that.
reddits science is full of wankers that just want to masturbate and brag about shit and be known for it. It's the definition of cringe worthy.
>cocksucker mcgee here and i've been working on blabla for 2 years and have blablablabla.
On the other hand, there is nothing "fun" about sitting around online with a bunch of college drop outs and underage high school students high on weed who are only just now coming to terms with their religion.
>muh burd culture has gone to shit! There's no interesting threads worthy of muh superior intellect.
>should we make new threads worthy of muh superior intellect?
>nuh, let's just moan and complain about it has gone to shit
Its not that there aren't interesting threads, they come about every now and again.
Some people on this board are very, very smart.
The amount of shitposting is ridiculous though, there's more b8 than /pol/
I'm starting grad school soon, and did very well in undergrad (major math minor physics). I have a paper out, did some reading with profs, etc.
I am on reddit WAY more than 4chan, and I rarely post. Although I've been on 4chan since high school.
I avoid reddit science/math stuff and only come on here sometimes. When you get further along in math/science you get far more serious about it. Shitposting loses its appeal.
The main site I use now is stackexchange. SE sites are good, but not perfect. Honestly, online stuff about math is awful mostly. There's shitposting and people wanting their hw done.
/sci/ has a great community. My parents are uneducated and having a sense of community with a culture and values is nice. /sci/ memes made it easier to focus in community college.
I'm also like you (except I'm not a filthy redditor).
The thing about academia/STEM careers in general is you tend to move around a lot. Not having a consistent circle of friends around you isn't really a problem because most people in the field are pretty sociable, but it's nice to always have /sci/ avaiable as "mobile 3rd place".
Honestly reddit is pretty good if you go to the right subreddits.
Usually sports subs are amazing, if you're into that. Askreddit is kind of funny if you only read the highly upvoted answers. Most is absolute cancer though. Some okayish porn subs, but I find /gif/ is better.
/r/all is fucking cancer through. Go to the right subreddits.
Basically a subreddit is good if it has a specific interest that one might have in the real world.
Cooking subreddits, sports subreddits, some music subreddits, etc.
Things like askreddit, eli5, etc are all cancer.
Making an account takes like 10 seconds. It takes less time to create an account than to post the old style Captchas. You don't need an email or anything. Just name, password.
There actually is good content on reddit. Just go to the right subreddits. Any subreddit that is remotely reddity is cancer.
However if it's something a normal person is interested in, it's a great format.
Then don't read comments. Reddit is great for content. There are subreddits for recipes. There are some bomb recipes on reddit. I've found some good music.
Discussion, especially in the main subreddits, is pretty bad most the time. But there is a ton of content.
Hey OP, I'm an Electronics & Comms student currently working on a cubic lattice protein model simulation. I'd love to read threads about this shit, I'd love to see something like /sci/ without the shitty "p = np", "0.999..." and "engineering shit tier" memes.
Connect to irc.installgentoo.com and join #/sci/
It's an IRC that spawned from /g/ and although there are many shitposters, the general quality of content is much higher than the board it spawned from. I think we should congregate there for now and discuss this further, I would be willing to create a website purely for the users of /sci/ and host it myself. We could discuss exactly what is needed on this irc.
I'd rather stay semi-anonymous since I'm dumb.
But yes, I mean another chan, like scichan or something. There have been so many fucking spinoff chans for stupid shit (fucking 8-chan came from some stupid /pol/fag shit about video games) and 420chan is devoted entirely to drugs lmao.
scichan could work
/phys/ - Physics
/chem/ - Chemistry
/bio/ - Biology
/cs/ - Computer Science
/mech/ - mechanical eng
/civ/ - Civil Eng
What I would like to add though, is a system where threads can exist on more than one board at once. For instance, take my protein folding simulation project. Is that biology, chemistry or cs? People of the different boards would have different things to add so I think it would be great to be able to post a thread that would be on more than one board at once. If you go to /phys/ you would see a thread that might also exist on /chem/, so you would be able to hear input from chemistry students and grads while discussing something also in your own field.
But you wouldn't go on /phys/ and see threads about evolution because that's not /phys/, but perhaps you would go on /cs/ and see a thread about some new scientific computing package.
But I might not be the best guy to do this, but I'm sure a scientific chan could not only survive but thrive.
anyway, I'm tired and going to bed, but there are some really smart people on /sci/ (although it doesn't seam like that sometimes), I hope you guys will listen to what I've said and think about it, come up with a better solution or even organise a place to discuss development of this new board.
I think a new chan is needed because other boards like /b/, /r9k/ and /pol/ can infect good boards with stupid memes and bring everything off topic with stupid "durrr niggers have low IQ" threads or "durrr women are ruining science with political correctness and feminism".
Sounds like a good idea. So when you post a thread you can decide if it goes to 1 board or more and discussion across all boards is synchronized. I just hope you don't get /g/ and the irc autists into this. Let's make it our own /sci/ project.
Some people on /g/ and irc can be smarter than you might expect. We should try to set up some way to discuss this further. I've got some basic sysadmin skills but no frontend skills. I could probably set up an ngnix server, I'll be doing some work with django soon so I can do a good chunk of the work myself but it would be good if other people could help.
Mainly what we would need to succeed with this is a semi-permanent place to discuss.
damn my autism.
IMO I think this would solve a lot of the problems that we currently face in /sci/. I would go so far as to add some boards/labels like /academia/ and /careers/ that would be blocked from the rest of the boards so people can continue to discuss those topics among the community without interrupting the main topic of the forum.
Anyway, as I say, we need a place to discuss this because I really think this idea will catch on, should I set up a google group or an IRC channel or what?
>fucking 8-chan came from some stupid /pol/fag shit about video games
That's just what made it popular, it was around before that.
Seems to be having a bad case of mismanagement lately, though.
Sounds almost like an instagram or facebook feed though. Im too unskilled to make it work, i can put dedication to learn how to do it but.. feels like there is a CS major around here that might do it easily.
Not CS, Electronics & Comms, but I'm learning django and have worked as a sysadmin. Soon to be taking a job developing a new social network (for finding parties and events near and for your college), so should be able to learn enough to do it myself, would be useful to get feedback and maybe some people do help with the front-end shit.
No point in me going off and creating some shit without getting any real input from the target users.
It would help to restart the Putnam threads. Trouble was that the site we used to use had a relatively small list which looped after about a year or so. We'd need to grab the list of old problems and decide on an algorithm for which gets picked each day. And maybe if someone makes another board, we could actually have stickies there.
Yeah, I'm sure we can grab a few people to work together, problem right now is how do we keep track of who can do what and who is willing to work on this. I hesitate to say a facebook group, but we need something like that. Anyone with ideas please shout out. IRC isn't really a great solution and neither are mailing lists. You sound like somebody who could help a lot (even if you only spent an hour or so every couple of weeks working, it's not like we have a deadline).
I'm tired and I want to go to bed, we're all from different parts of the world and I'm too lazy to set up ZNC right now. Real time discussion is impractical.
That said, if you set up an IRC chan I'll join it. IRC might work despite what I say.
Probably the best approach would be to add this sort of feature to an existing imageboard engine, in which case there is likely already a issue tracker on Github or wherever the project is hosted to discuss stuff. And that's assuming it hasn't been done already.
>when the putnam threads died I think the board as a whole died with them desu
that's why I tried posting some ens exercices a while back to get people with a better background in.
If putnam is good for freshmen, I think we should also have some challenge for people with more knowledge to have them interested.
vichan, Lynxchan, and Infinity Next already have an "overboard" feature where you can go to the "overboard" and browse posts on all boards. Lynxchan is probably the most actively developed at this point, although I'm not sure if it's reached feature parity with the older vichan yet. Next was a development dramafest and is probably best avoided.
The bigger problem with making a new board is going to be >tfw no traffic. Still, I'm worried about the direction Hiroyuki is taking 4chan:
>I usually end up learning about something interesting too.
This is the same for me too, sometimes I'll find something interesting I'll share with my friend and we'll have a cool conversation about it.
OK, so i might as well admit up front that I am way older than most here (perhaps older than the parents of some, I suspect). Why not revive Usenet? It was an awesome place before Eternal September and now it is "like a festival, slowly calmed down".
Part of the problem is that we have daily flat earther and IQ threads fucking everywhere. Anyone with half a brain knows that IQ doesn't mean shit and how the fuck flat earth threads of all things.
Usenet News is still there and has a hierarchy of topics and a working infrastructure. Only most groups are dead with a few exceptions such as news:comp.dsp etc.
Clients like trn and slrn were not known to be user friendly and therefore were barriers to much of the dreck. Of course when AOL got posting tools it was a flood of toxic sewage into a nice pool. They too are gone now.
So today the main point wild be to ensure the 18+ limit. I think /sci/ would be good if that last part worked. As an experiment on an anonymous society (compared to reddit) it is interesting though the downsides are just what OP is talking about.
>Still not understanding IQ
BRAINLETS GET OUT
I agree, due to the nature of the upboat system reddit is great for content but terrible for discussion as only cancer reddit tier puns/inside jokes/references get upvoted most of the time. Some comments are good but since people only upvote epic memes they can laugh about, the actual not shit comments get buried.
This is not true for all subreddits, some (if not most) of the smaller ones are better but theres a strong trend of people posting the kind of shitty jokes that make the reader feel smart for understanding them to gain their cool karma points.
I also prefer the honesty that comes with the anonymity of 4chan, on reddit everyone puts on a forced politeness that is really weird sometimes. Despite all the rudeness and shitposting, like another poster said 4chan feels much more welcoming and casual than reddit. Like hanging out with friends where you can talk openly instead of having a kind of awkwardly formal chat with friends of someone you know
Hey OP I wrote a paper on Beta-lactamase enzymes like three years back so I can kind of relate to what you're saying but truth be told I don't know enough to contribute to genuine scientific discussion. I had to take a break after a psychotic break. Now I'm studying pre-calc while my friends are juniors and studying advanced stuff. It's really depressing but I'm not giving up just yet.
Just be the change you want to see is all I can say really.