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Who's the greatest intellect alive right now?

Terrace Tao? Mochizuki?
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>>7839747
Neil DeGrasse Tyson
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>>7839747
VSauce
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>>7839747
Trump.
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>>7839747
me
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>>7839747
>Who's the greatest intellect alive right now?

Intellect doesn't really work like DBZ power levels.There isn't a smartest person alive.

And if there were, it's highly unlikely they would be famous.
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>>7839747
Sheldon Cooper
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>>7839796
>makes a video questioning if anything is "real" and doubting what we call knowledge
>proceeds to make scientific videos asserting scientific facts

Yeah, no. Anyone but that contradictory hypocrite, please.
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>>7839799
this. it's me.
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Professor Sir Martyn Poliakoff

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIoxY9kECRE
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>>7839811
Lol you are seriously retarded if you think that makes him a hypocrit.

His videos aren't some narrative about his beliefs you idiot. He can ask that question while still very much believing things and knowledge are real.
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Mochizuki. He made good on the approach described in Récoltes et Semailles
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>>7839803
why do people always say this?
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>>7839989
Because they're right. "Smartness" is a relative term that only applies back in primary education for the kid who got the highest grades.
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Burnett.
Yeah, Burnett. Not Barnett. I mean, flavored vodka is like the internet of the 21st century.
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Witten
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Algebraic geometry is considered the most difficult field of mathematics, no? Mochizuki > Tao
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>>7839943
Look, faggot; if someone makes a video like that, they ought to make clear their own thoughts on the topic. VSauce is a channel about information; to make a video whose subject basically means doubting all that information, and not making a clear, concrete conclusion about such a delicate thing, then keep doing the usual videos as if that one in particular never existed, is ambiguity at its worst. VSauce basically just said "hey guys how do you know anything? think about it xD!" and nothing else. Not a single time did he say what *he* thought about the topic, other than letting us know that he has these thoughts. Then he enthusiastically speaks about something completely unrelated in the next video.

How people like you can like this guy is beyond me.
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in b4 ahmed
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Walter Lewin
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>>7839749
Underrated
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>Measuring intelligence by math abilities
Pls.
Lee Kuan Yew.I know that he died 1 year ago, but he is probably greatest mind of the 20th century.
He raised his country from dirty Asian hole to the richest (in every sense) country in the world.
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>>7840237
Pol plz
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>>7839747
Goliath beetle
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>>7840022
In that case Grootdick would be the prime candidate
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>>7840284
grottendick is dead genius
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>>7840288
Not in my heart he isn't
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>>7839747
me, undoubtedly. I'm not famous but that's irrelevant.

Ask me anything and I'll answer it. I'm never wrong.
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>>7840291
why do kids love the taste of cinnamon toast crunch
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>>7840292
i don't know.
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>>7840292
Semen-flavor. Next
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>>7840291


Why are you such an idiot?
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>>7839749
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>>7839747
I've youve ever watched the Flash yous know the answer by now

"The smartest people on the planet are Niel Degrasse Tyson and Richard Dawkins" - Barry Allen, The Flash, 2015
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>>7840435

Does he actually say that on the show?
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>>7839747
Sheldon Cooper
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>>7840455
Yep. I can't find the episode though. But I remeber it well since that was the moment I stopped watching the show
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>>7840291
How many licks does it take to get to the tootsie roll center of a tootsie pop?
Bearing in mind the work of several independent investigators over many years has failed to establish an empirical lower bound greater than three.
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>>7840483

>unironically watching TV
>ever
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>>7839941
yea, he is cool
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>>7839747
Filthy Frank
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and another one
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>>7840545
another one
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>>7840568
and another one
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>>7839799
thirded
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>>7839979
>mfw Mochizuki is the Grothendieck, GauB and Cantor of the 21st century
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>>7839799
Retarded weeaboo

>>7839803
>And if there were, it's highly unlikely they would be famous.
Why? I'd assume the smartest person alive will be known for innovating in his field.
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>>7840575
>GauB
if you're gonna be pompous enough to spell it Gauß at least take the effort to type out an eszett jesus man
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>>7840596
>>And if there were, it's highly unlikely they would be famous.
>Why? I'd assume the smartest person alive will be known for innovating in his field.

Not heard of the smart, but lazy meme?
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>>7840237
>A gem of the British Empire and a global trade centre
>"Dirty Asian hole"

Pick precisely one.
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>>7840600
That's what it is, a meme.

I'll be surprised who anyone who claims to be "smart but lazy" on the imgur comments turns out to be the smartest person alive.
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>>7840599
Jesus man, how new are you?
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>>7840596
Think about how many people are actually recognised for their accomplishments, then think about how many "geniuses" we're actually supposed to have in our society compared to Nobel prize winners and field medalists.

If you take the SB distribution, the people who are technically capable of being academics and even Nobel prize winners should be at least 120 (considering studies and people like Feynman etc.)

>120+
>>> (8.2 + 3.1 + 1.1 + 0.2 + 0.03) / 100.0 * 7e7
8 841 000

That's almost 9 million people. Do we have that many academics? Fuck no, even including CC, the third world and independent researchers I strongly doubt we have many in STEM total.

Now for genius level IQs:

>>> (2e-3 + 3e-4) * 7e7
161 000.0

>160+
>>> 3e-4 * 7e7
21000

Do we have 161000 recognised "geniuses"? It turns out most people utterly waste their potential and become bouncers who blog for a living. Most of them aren't working on anything important and are not even considered "intellectuals". So I.Q is not a reliable measurement for intellectuals. So why should we use it to compare top dogs in research?


Comparing REAL achievements in research is comparing apples and oranges, and there might be many researchers who are solving more difficult, but more obscure problems out of the limelight. It's really hard to know who is truly the greatest intellectual because we have no real way of measuring that. How do you say IUTT is more brilliant than some other publication in an obscure math journal? IF is mostly based on what other people understand and what is popular, not the true measure of your work. We only have the subjective opinions of the academic community.
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>>7840570
*whispers*
another one
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>>7840649
>It turns out most people utterly waste their potential and become bouncers who blog for a living.
>Most of them aren't working on anything important

Hey, Chris wrote the CTMU. I woudln't call that nothing.
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>>7840614
>>A gem of the British Empire and a global trade centre
>"Dirty Asian hole"
>Pick precisely one.
>Pick precisely one.
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>>7840040
Anon I truly believe you have autism. I mean legit autism, not a joke.

The man is certainly not a genius but to be so triggered by this is unnatural.
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>>7840614
Hong Kong was a fucking fishing village when the brits got there, and transformed it into one of the most beautiful gems of modern civilization.
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>>7840975
It's not him, but his influence that angers me. People who have almost never thought about these things watch these videos, and they generally can't reach the same conclusions than those who are well experienced on the topic. So they make bullshit statements about existence without even having the slightest idea of what they're talking about. In other words, post-modernism. "lol everything is subjective!" "lol consciousness is an illusion!" "lol quantum physics means truth doesent exists XD!"

He presents a very important topic with ambiguously defined concepts and logical contradictions, then people interpret these words however the hell they want, even if this understanding varies greatly from others's or if it's nothing but semantics without good fundaments.

If you're going to talk about something similar, with normalfags, you need to start from zero. Define the concepts you're going to use. Avoid not making a concrete conclusion. Basically, the contrary of what your idolized husbando did.
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Slavoj "The insane hobo who brags about ideology" Zizek
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>>7839796

lel nice jk kid
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>>7841165
What was so dangerous about his conclusion? He didn't say "lol nothin's real guys!" If anything he ended on the side of realism.

You're making a big deal about nothing.
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>>7841333
Read the comments on the video, and tell me what good did his video do, if any. He made assumptions and contradictory arguments during his video (i.e he said you're alone in your own brain and thus you cannot know if everything else is "real", ignoring that the brain itself is a construct of our own perception), when the whole point was to doubt them all. So not only his logic is flawed; he's discussing a topic that is far too advanced for the masses to just take lightly.

He may be charismatic, he may have good intentions, but that doesn't mean he didn't make a mistake here. 11 minutes isn't enough time to explain all of that clearly, even if he's experienced at teaching. Either he should have avoided doing that video at all, or make a longer one where he can explain everything in more detail and with a better logical argumentation.
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>>7839989
Because intelligence refers to the raw processing power of your brain and its ability to recognize patterns and solve problems.

How do you know the person with the most raw ability isn't some unrealized hick slaving away in a minimum wage job for whatever reason? (see: Langan)
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>>7841437
He doesn't ignore that at all. And while I'm sure there are many stupid people who will view that video as the conclusion of the matter for many others that video will be their introduction and they will do more research.

Disseminating knowledge to the masses is a good thing. I know you wanna feel like you're in a secret philosopher club and others can't understand but that's retarded.
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Most likely Kanye West, his IQ is over 130
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>>7841537
Either he did, or it simply didn't go through his mind. Watch the video again: he *does* make assumptions in numerous ocassions, despite being discussing the very nature of knowledge.

Your second point can apply to pretty much any type of video. Anyone can hear a concept and do their own research. The point is, VSauce is a channel of information, and in this video, he failed to give enough information. And the little he gave, was not completely accurate or just plain contradictory. His channel revolves around sharing knowledge, and thus he should've given more emphasis on this video specifically, as it pretty much goes against all of his other teachings.

If you're going to disseminate knowledge to the masses, do it right. Don't fall into ambiguity. Be true to your point. Examine your arguments carefully. Else, people might understand exactly the contrary of what you actually wanted to state.

I don't feel superior to them, but I just can't deny that I have a "better philosophical understanding" than them, at least in this area. All I'm saying is that the way we express our ideas is extremely important and should be taken more seriously. In this case, it applies to this guy.
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>>7841645
I don't think his presentation was that bad and I also think its silly to get mad at the idea that people might reach the "wrong" conclusions.

If people wanna embrace solipsism they can it's not going to change anything.

Wanting everything presented such that people can only arrive at the "right" philosopher club approved conclusions is ridiculous.
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>>7841682
The problem is when people reach conclusions that involve the denial of an "external reality" (or a conclusion that involves not treating it as if it "existed") or simply make no conclusion at all, doubting literally everything. It's a dangerous behavior, as it challenges the facts our society is based upon. And we may stumble upon these people one day, and their behavior may also be perjudicial to our own lives. This is obviously an hyperbole when applied to a small group, but we're talking about millions of people, who also transfer their own ideas to others.

Or are you telling me you don't care if you find a pothead that replies to every single statement you make with "but how do you know?" Probably not. But what if he's doing something that goes against your values, or something that involves harming you directly or indirectly, and he uses doubtness as an excuse to uphold his own desires?

"Live and let live" is simpler said than done. Even if people can find their "own path" or beliefs in some regards, we need to find a common ground on which we can all agree on. And to do that, we all need to find at least one "truth", regardless of what other beliefs we have. Or else, you will have to deal with having no way to argue with people who call your arguments "opinions" as an excuse to do what they want without being called out on it.
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>>7839747
Honestly?

Myself. I've solved all of the millennium prize problems, but I think it'd be unfair to others to claim anything.
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>>7841739
Wanting to control what everyone believes is also a dangerous path.

Also keep in mind that what a person posts on YouTube isn't necessarily indicative of what they actually believe or how they live.

Its true that a large group of people embracing views that go against society can be dangerous but I don't think vsauce is doing that and at the end of the day you can't control what people believe anyways.
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>>7840237
Colonel Gadaffi raised his country from your run-of-the-mill African shithole to a country richer than half of Europe. But he was evil because he did it along socialist lines as opposed to Hong Kong who are capitalist cocksuckers
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>>7839747
you . if only you were using it and not wasting it on an asian cartoon website .
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>>7842092
There is danger on both paths, I agree. But I don't think realism would be harmful if everyone followed it. Quite the contrary actually, as it supports knowledge. But yeah, you can't really force people to believe the same things.

Nonetheless, we have to try to avoid the growth of groups with ideals against society as much as possible. Not by force, but by argumentation. That's where the correct use of semantics and logic is obligatory for the sake of sharing ideas, and sadly, this is what most people fail to do right, in the form of incomplete information, ambiguity of concepts, or flawed logic. I'm not going to exaggerate that VSauce was the worst case of this, but he certainly could've been... more efficient in this particular video.
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>>7842148
Maybe he could have done better sure but I don't think it was some crime against humanity and the general idea of his channel is good.
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>>7840596
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxHn0FsG7UM
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>>7839747
>Who's the greatest intellect alive right now?
The cat in your picture, OP.
I mean, look at that smug-ass look, you can just tell the lil furry nigga's a genius.
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>>7842155
No, of course it wasn't. But I'm glad we can agree on a few things.
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>>7839747
>Who's the greatest intellect alive right now?
Probably some alien off in far ass space

>ayy lmoa
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>>7840258
Beetle a cute! Cute!
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>>7839747
Elon Musk no joke
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>>7842255
This. He will change the world unlike the maths spergs locked up in rooms somewhere.
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>>7841123
>Leach all the money out of the best civilization in History
>Accumalate it in one city
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>>7842180
Yep pretty much
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Not OP.
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