>tfw Planet Nine is finally discovered
>tfw it's gonna be discovered by some Cuck who will name it after something not related to Roman Gods
Seriously if the names for Minor Planets or other objects in the Solar System is an indication expect the new planet to be a combo breaker.
> Finally discover Planet X
> It's 10 times larger
> It's the tenth time someone's found a planet
> But because some cucks downgraded the last one...
> OMG GUYS WE FOUND A -NINTH- PLANET THIS HAS TOTALLY NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE
Don't worry, Uranus was supposed to be named George in honor of King George III, by its discoverer Herschel. And Neptune was supposed to be named Le Verrier. We all know how that turned out
Yes, the very nature of the inferred evidence it exists means it is the dominant object in its orbit.
It is probably the dominant object in the whole 'Sedna region' of our solar system.
>people who are still fucking salty about Pluto being a dwarf planet
Planets are defined by the following three characteristics:
1. is massive enough to be rounded by its own gravity,
2. is not massive enough to cause thermonuclear fusion, and
3. has cleared its neighbouring region of planetesimals.
Any single body as large as Neptune should easily fulfill all three points.
>people don't know we used to think Asteroids were planets
Hestia is an asteroid.
Why would we grandfather Pluto into a list of something that it isn't? Why do people even care that Pluto is a dwarf planet (I refuse to say "now" because it's always been a dwarf planet, regardless of what we called it)?
Being a dwarf planet isn't a good thing or a bad thing. It's just a thing. Why do people get so butthurt? Did people in olden times get this irrationally pissed when the Sun got demoted to a mere star?
>it's always been a dwarf planet
The category "dwarf planet" didn't even exist until a few years ago. People get pissed off because people aren't used to having a small academy tell them what words they can and can't use for things as if a vote held by a committee is a matter of unquestionable scientific fact.
How do you cope with the fact that "continent" has no clear definition?
They're "butthurt" because they were brainwashed in school. Idiots hold on to this info. Most people on this Earth are complete idiots. I'm in this majority, and majority rules, so bow down you Pluto hating fuck.
>How do you cope with the fact that "continent" has no clear definition?
If we suddenly realized there were potentially hundreds of continents by the existing accepted definition, we would redefine the word to be more specific.
>The category "dwarf planet" didn't even exist until a few years ago.
Yes, and...? Calling a cat a dog for years because you didn't know the word for "cat" doesn't actually make the cat a dog.
>People get pissed off because people aren't used to having a small academy tell them what words they can and can't use for things as if a vote held by a committee is a matter of unquestionable scientific fact.
So basically they throw an academic version of a hissy fit. Okay.
Man, they knew about that shit since 1984, they called it 'Nemesis' and they thought it was a brown dwarf on a long, eccentric orbit.
So every few centuries, Nemesis, an aborted bullshit-half star, slightly larger than Jupiter swings close to the solar system, still way out, but it's gravity flashes through the Oort cloud and slings a fuck-ton of rocky, icy, shitty, bullshit sub-planets toward the sun.
That's why everything dies on Earth every few thousand years. Cause of the orbit of that gravity body in the oort cloud.
They discredited that theory, ignored it, now they want to talk about it again since some fucking shit is effecting the orbits of objects out there and now after they demoted Pluto, they want to call this Oort cloud eccentric a fucking planet.
why is our solar system so fucking big?
does every star have an oort cloud and shit?
A brown dwarf and something like planet 9 are the same size. Maybe a brown dwarf would be slightly more luminous? As if our optics could even detect a red dwarf at those distances. Saying they detected something like this because of gravity a forever a fucking ago.
It should be named after a non-Western civilization to help fight the Eurocentrism in science.
I think the name "Unkulunkulu" fits nicely, which is the Sky God in the mythology of the Zulu people.
>A brown dwarf and something like planet 9 are the same size
Brown dwarfs are ≥ Jupiter's size and glow in infrared.
At 10 Earth masses planet 9 is smaller than Neptune/Uranus.
Yeah, because all that asshole needs is another ego boost...
>In Greek mythology, Plouto (Πλουτώ) or Pluto was a nymph and the mother of Tantalus by Zeus. Her parents were Oceanus and Tethys (thus making Plouto one of the 3000 Oceanids) or Himas, a Lydian that was otherwise unknown. Plouto was said to be married to Tmolus, the stepfather of Tantalus.
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I read an article (Scientific American, I think?) written back in the 70s that predicted another planet beyond Pluto, and said it would/should be called Vulcan.
Due to Star Trek, probably won't happen
The bad news is that these names exist.
The good news is that they are (hopefully) temporary.
>old Mythology and made-up stories which inspire us in our daily lives are noble, classical, refined
>new Mythology and made-up stories which inspire us in our daily lives are plebeian, garbage, undeserving.
I know that someone somewhere is ready to unironically argue the above, but even they would be obliged to acknowledge the absurdity, in a serious conversation. What's actually going on is that since the ancient world is at such a remove from us, and yet we have records of the great things that were done, we just have much bigger nostalgia-goggles. A youtube commenter might as well lament that they were born in the wrong millennium, rather than decade.
I think it's fair to say that the shitty "pop culture" from ages past wasn't remembered, all that's left is the best.
Kinda like radio stations that play hits from the 60/70s/80s etc, they only play the better stuff while the vast majority is forgotten about.
Doesn't anyone else think it's suspicious that this planet is just now popping up? What are the chances of us never seeing this ever? This isn't a planet at all. It's obviously an Alien spacecraft looking to make an interstellar highway through our planet
I was going to write a serious response until you went full ayy lmao.
Except in addition to a nickname, they literally want to see it called "George".
>The researchers who spotted the planet would like to see it called “George” after King George III, in a nod to a British astronomer who discovered Uranus and had hoped to name it Georgium Sidus (the Georgian Planet).
Here is a source with an actual quote from them.
>Brown and Batygin call it Planet Nine, and Jehoshaphat, and George. “We actually call it Fatty when we’re just talking to each other,” Brown said.
I don't know how many of these are already taken, but here are some good names for the new planet if it gets discovered
Erebus, Tartarus, Thanatos, Macaria, Lamia, Rhadamanthus
Soranus, Manes, Lemures, [spoiler]]Pluto[/spoiler]
One is pasta, one is something anons actually say.
Being called new by newfags is always humorous.
>tfw we find out its a giant terrestrial world that formed close to the sun and got flung out.
>planet formed in early solar system and life developed
>when the planet got knocked out of the habitable zone they used technology to survive
>still barely hanging on in ruined cities to this day
Okay, so you expect me to believe that you were the very best that your generation of Navy SEALs had to offer? I highly doubt that. If you were as good as you say you were, i don't think for a second that you would be browsing 4chan. This is mostly a place for jobless neckbeards that still live with their parents, and nerdy high school kids that don't have any friends. It really isn't the place for highly-trained assassins to be hanging out in their spare time. Even if it was, something far worse than a troll being mean to you probably would have set you off a long time ago. What about the slew of gore and child pornography that gets posted here on a regular basis? Isn't that something that deserves a person being hunted down and made to regret their actions? Yeah, you're just not the 4chan type. Sure, there's a wide variety of people that browse here, but you're far from the core demographic if you are who you say you are (which isn't the case). Even if it were true that you're an incredibly talented soldier, I think all the military discipline would prevent you from getting mad enough to murder some random idiot on the internet. I also doubt that even the best SEALs have a "secret network of spies across the USA". Why would all of the most expanisive Big Brother network in the world be willing to help a troubled PTSD-sufferer hunt down some random kid on the internet? That doesn't even make sense. If you're gonna try to scare somebody, make it more believable than "IM A SUPER SOLDIER HURR DURR". You might frighten a thirteen year old who doesn't know any better, but to must of us you just look like a kid with an anger problem and a very active imagination. Hopefully things will be easier for you when your puberty's over. Best of luck with that... kiddo
Shu speaks: "O, you eight Heh (or Chaos-gods) who are in charge of the chambers of the sky, whom Shu made from the efflux of His limbs ... The bnbn (or phoenix) of Ra was that from which Atum came to be as Heh (chaos), Nun (the watery abyss), Kek (the darkness), Tenem (or Amen, meaning gloom). I am Shu, father of the gods. Atum used to send his Sole Eye seeking Me and My sister, Tefnut. I am the one who begot the Heh gods again, as Heh, Nun, Tenem, Kek. I am Shu who begot the gods.
>In ancient Roman religion and myth, Janus is the god of beginnings and transitions, and thereby of gates, doors, doorways, passages and endings.
This planet is very likely to be the last one of our system and could therefore be seen as the gateway to the rest of the galaxy. Unfortunately, this name is already taken by one of Saturn's moons.
Not true, the planet was detected based on the orbits of numerous TNO. The definition asks more so that the planet is big enough to clear it's orbit of any object that could cross it. If an asteroid wanders through Earth's orbit, the Earth isn't temporarily demoted to being a minor planet because of that.
Am i the only one remembering that study about the origins of comets?
A guy studied where are the entrances of comets in the solar system and concluded that a massive object must be perturbating asteroid out of the solar system. I remember seeing some diagrams showing there are two points of origin of comets entering the solar system.
This is what Pluto looks like from Hubble when it was ~30 AU from us. Its probably too far for Hubble to get a good look at it, but its hard to say because it is significantly larger than Pluto, but will be much darker from less light reaching it.
Here is an article explaining why Hubble can take good pictures of far galaxies but not of Pluto.
The James Webb Telescope, 30 Meter Telescope, Giant Magellan Telescope or European Extremely Large Telescope will do better. When they are completed.
If by some chance Planet 9 has a bunch of KBO/TNO as moons, we should name it Diana.
"Diana was the goddess of the hunt, the moon and childbirth, being associated with wild animals and woodland, and having the power to talk to and control animals."
Ideally Pluto should have been named Diana, but too late for that now I guess. Janus is another good one, also Terminus.
You realize that Terra is the latin name for the Earth? Just like Sol is the latin name for the Sun? Just like Luna is the latin name for the Moon?
Terra means dirt too, don't be retarded.
I've been aware of this for a few days, but had never heard of "Nibiru" before. Today, I was looking at a record cover from a group I'm interested in (but don't know much about), and clear as day it had a "Nibiru"-inclusive planetary diagram on the front. Funny.
>Like all four dualistic concepts in the Ogdoad, Kuk's male form was depicted as a frog, or as a frog-headed man
Isn't "discovered" a bit much?
From what I've read its just a hypothesis to explain the orbits of other stuff in our solar system? Such an hypothesis gave us Neptune, but the same hypothesis was wrong with regards to Pluto and the like.
Just because some of the math ads up, doesn't mean that its confirmed. Though it would be pretty sweet to name it Nemesis just to fuck with people if it does exist.
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>Lowell proposed the Planet X hypothesis to explain apparent discrepancies in the orbits of the giant planets, particularly Uranus and Neptune, speculating that the gravity of a large unseen ninth planet could have perturbed Uranus enough to account for the irregularities
>Clyde Tombaugh's discovery of Pluto in 1930 appeared to validate Lowell's hypothesis, and Pluto was officially named the ninth planet. In 1978, Pluto was conclusively determined to be too small for its gravity to affect the giant planets, resulting in a brief search for a tenth planet. The search was largely abandoned in the early 1990s, when a study of measurements made by the Voyager 2 spacecraft found that the irregularities observed in Uranus's orbit were due to a slight overestimation of Neptune's mass.
So i gather, if the planet exists, it will be found within our lifetime.
Can a probe reach it within our lifetime?
Highly elliptical orbit so it depends where it is. Closest approach is estimated at 200 AU, farthest at 1200 AU. Pluto by comparison is between 30 and 50 AU. So this thing is way the fuck out. You'd need some sort of meme drive to get there in a sensible time.
>Copernicus got burned alive for saying it
>a dwarf star still counts as a star
>a dwarf planet doesn't count as a planet
Of the classes of planets that we currently know of (there's undoubtedly going to be some really weird outlier planets that qualify neither as terrestial nor gasgiant), terrestials definitely have the most potential to be interesting, since gas giants are just gas.
The kind of terrestial planet that I'm interested in seeing is one that has increased in volume while the material density has stayed the same throughout development, forcing voids to form in the structure of it; so if the planet increases in volume by 10%, then 1/11th of the planet's volume will be cave systems; though it'd possibly take some erosion for them to be in a network.
Not sure what could cause such a volume increase though. If the planet had a huge amount of water permeating the rock, and that water eventually froze, that could cause such a thing to happen to a planet that wasn't too large: But then the caves would be clogged with ice.
Minerva's already an asteroid.
Call it Mithra.
It wouldn't really bother me if it weren't for the fact that we've already chosen this theme. To name it something else at this point is akin to producing a series of books with matching spines, only to throw it off with the latest addition by changing up the colors and font, and moving the author's name down an inch.
It would be absolutely autistic and beyond infuriating to NOT name it after a Roman god with this much already going for the theme.
>dwarf planets aren't planets
>dwarves aren't people
>old Mythology is supposed to be believed and explain the universe
>new Mythology is supposed to be enjoyed and make money
You can't tell me that the stories in the major religions and Star Wars are remotely comparable.