>>7798916 Every different type of cancer is a separate type of disease. "cancer" is not a disease like "the flu" is a disease. Cancer is a set of diseases with similar properties, notably the existence of mutated cells which uncontrollably multiply and compete with "healthy" cells to stay alive, harming the afflicted person. The mechanism by which this happens at the chemical level is unique to every type of cancer. There are some types of cancer which are already effectively "curable" if detected early enough. There will never be a "cure to cancer" because there is no way in hell you are going to develop a single medicine or treatment which reverses the effects of every single type of cancer-triggering mutation. There will be and already are several effective treatments which are specific to certain types of cancer.
New Theoretical Neurological studies are surprisingly showing that overabundance of the steroid hormone cortisol (released through stress) is linked heavily to most all cancers. My girlfriend is a neurosci grad student at Berkely and she won't shut up about this shit.
>>7798982 >What about chemotherapy and radiation doing more harm than the cancer itself Kind of a misnomer. Chemo targets fast dividing cells, so white blood cells/hair cells/cancer.
If cancer kills you in 12 months, but chemo makes you sick for a while but stops the cancer and/or extends your life for 5-20 years, I count that as "chemo isn't as harmful as cancer"
>cannabis oils? Probably useful to add to the arsenal of cancer-fighting therapies. Not a cure-all or replacement for current treatments. What amounts to buzzfeed article titles of "CANABIS CUR CANCERZ, TIMOR SHRINK" does not an expert make.
im a graduate student at one of the best universities for cancer research in the US. i see the cutting edge research my peers are performing and the faculty at my university are performing. i have seen no sign of suppression. i HAVE seen signs that the basic biology of cancer makes any kind of treatment hideously complicated.
in order for a conspiracy to exist with the described effect, the conspirators would have to suppress the concerted efforts and accomplishments of tens of thousands of individuals
Only 14 US presidents have either died or taken office since WWII (which I'm assuming that this hypothetical cancer cure was at least not invented before); of those, only 9 have actually died yet.
At least two British monarchs have had life-threatening cancer since 1900: George VI had lung cancer, but died of coronary thrombosis first in 1952, and Edward VIII died in 1972 of throat cancer. There really haven't been enough royals since then to draw any kind of data.
With these kinds of sample sizes, a lack of cancer incidence is not even close to significant.
>>7801400 I'm a fan of Bowie but I didn't know his death would have so much impact on the general public. It's like a bunch of my friends on a certain social media site were closet Bowie fans till his death. I had people still mourning his death like they lost their mother five days later.
>>7802214 He had a huge overbearing presence that was beyond his music. Everyone knew him, and he was just part of everyday life. Hell, I know a number of people who say they don't like his music at all but still think he's the greatest.
A lot of people's reactions, I think, were about the fact that something that was a solid part of life growing up was suddenly ripped away. Bowie is no longer in the world, it's kind of strange. It would be as if Disney World was rapidly shut down permanently. Even people who never went or people who never thought about it for years would be mourning it, as it was always a present part of this world that existed.
>>7798916 We don't even understand cancer that well what the fuck are you talking about. Cancer isn't just one disease it's multiple different ones. I mean you can get cancer from a variety of agents and the reason its so fucking hard to treat is that it out competes your regular cells. In addition if its super very aggressive its even harder to treat because it can become resistant to the type of treatment you're getting. In addition if the cancer takes over your lymph nodes you are BEYOND fucked as now the tumor can release immuno- suppressants.
While it is hard to ignore that you do make a lot more money treating something cancer isn't like a bacterial infection. Its something that is very difficult to treat or to force into complete remission.
>>7802376 Cancer is very well understood. It is one disease with many faces caused by too much acidity in the blood that permits the cancer to out-compete regular cells. You can read about the success with alkalinization of the body in advanced stage 4-5 cancers in multiple clinical trials. Cannabinoids also work by naturally influencing the body to a more alkaline state.
Well: 1. the person who invented it would be the richest motherfucker alive if he chose so. 2. no one person would have invented it, rather a team. have you ever tried to keep a secret between more than 2 people? especially as one as monumental as curing cancer? 3. there's literally nothing to gain by hiding it 4. the implications of finding a way to cure cancer would have far reaching applications in other fields of medicine and would inevitably lead to cures of other major diseases.
>>7798916 Well the cancer industry currently generates about 125 billion dollars a year. If we created a cheap and easy cure, that flow of cash could dry up. So to answer your question, there is an enormous amount of economic incentive to not solve cancer - at least not in a cheap and easy way.
If you have or know someone who has cancer, one of their best bets is to spend some time investigated cannabis oil or CBD oil (made from hemp, so you can get it in any state). I would not say it's the magic pill for all cancers, but it helps with a lot of them.
>>7798916 One of my biggest criticisms of the cancer industry is the techniques they use. Basically, we have the following: cut, burn, poison. If they can cut the cancer out, they do (however for many types they can't). Another alternative is to burn you with radiation. And another is to poison you with chemo. Both chemo and radiation destroy fast divided cells which unfortunately means your immune system is going to be pretty fucked up. Problem with that is the only real cure for cancer is to beat it with your own immune system or it will come back. When you destroy your immune system (like with modern day treatments), your chances of being cancer free permanently becomes very low.
An interesting study that was carried out in the US (although highly immoral) was when a cancer researcher took cancer cells from one patient and put it in another. The other cancer patient got that cancer. But when he put cancer cells in a healthy control patient, they got tumors but then the tumor shrank and dissapeared. This is because a healthy immune system can (and does all the time) fight off cancer. You NEED a strong immune system!!
>>7802597 Do you think this is in any way news to the medical community?
You're constantly getting cancer but most clinically apparent cancers in addition to out-of-control replication develop very well established methods for evading the host immune system (for example, they express receptors that disable immune cells which are targeting them).
In addition, you're ignoring the selection of cancers that arise from the immune system itself (and are therefore immune privileged). Like leukemias and lymphomas, or multiple myeloma, for which in some cases you basically do have to wipe out the immune system and do a stem cell transplant to start over.
>>7802640 Invasion of critical structures like the brain, heart, kidneys, liver that prevents them from performing their function. Reroutes metabolism from critical systems stealing energy and critical supplies to build more tumor. Massive bleeding from the tumor. Formation of blood clots in dysregulated tumor tissue that travel to the brain, lungs, etc.
>>7802633 No, I didn't say it was news. I just listed my criticisms.
I also find it odd that when you get a cancer diagnosis, your doctor doesn't go: Okay, well we need to get your immune system functioning at high capacity. Let me review your current medications to see if any of those impact your immune system and see if there are replacements that are more forgiving. You'll want to cut your sugar intake as a high sugar environment helps some types of cancer thrive. Let's see if your lifestyle is alkaline or acidic, because it should probably be slightly alkaline. Also, have you ever given fasting any thought? When you fast and then go off the fast, your body replaces its existing white blood cells with new white blood cells greatly boosting your immune system. Also, these herbs are known to boost your immune system.
Instead its like: here take these drugs that we knew hurts your immune system and maybe destroys your liver. Don't worry, we have more drugs that correct those problems, although they damage your kidneys. But there's more drugs for that. Good luck!
there is no such thing as 'the' cure for cancer, because there is no such thing as 'the' cancer, just like there are different drugs for different infections and not 'the' drug that cures 'the' infection.
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